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EngIand
Caldari Irata III Trek Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.30 21:55:00 -
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Well, ive said my 2 cents and then added a crap load more that i hadnt planned to.
It was a good alliance, a fun place to be and a good group of people to be with. Its a real shame its ended this way, hense why ive kinda reacted the way i have.
I apologise to anyone who's been offended.
Flysafe.
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Lord Nefarious
Minmatar Zor Industries Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.06.30 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: IronGoldenEagle An alliance run by Guru failed? How suprising
Still sucking(like a dyson) at life? how suprising
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Captain Soki
Gallente Unity Continuum
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Posted - 2010.06.30 22:13:00 -
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Originally by: Ms Twitch I feel sorry for HTA in one hand being scammed out of all the money, although I do think you didn't research the situation fully.
Wooptang and Guru are s****for betraying the trust of Primary. and it's members who made the alliance what it was and, it was all done so they line there own pockets.
My 2 cents worth.
I agree and disagree with this. It seems all the parties Primary. HTA and ATLAS were aware of the goings ons. Nothing was muddled until the other pets(no offense to GC/COW) were upset they werent included and threw a fit. It should be telling why the other pets were not even informed and pretty much left completely out until the final hour. As for Guru he hasnt done anything that hasnt been done before (PL, Tri,Init) so im not sure what the fuss is about
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guska Cryotank
Gallente Void Angels Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.06.30 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: Corvus Dove I'd love to log in and find out the real story. Unfortunately, I can't even log in, so seeing my nose is necessary before seeing what is in front of it .
Oh well, I guess I'll just show up in about a week and adapt to whatever politics are going on in the systems at the time.
I would suggest, jumping on EVE Gate, and EVEMailing your CEO or Alliance Exec/Diplo and getting the info from them. Better to know what you're logging into than getting a shock when you do.
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Eve 666
Caldari EternitY corp Stella Polaris.
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Posted - 2010.07.01 00:28:00 -
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Edited by: Eve 666 on 01/07/2010 00:28:25 congratz on hta
the first alliance ever who reached 100+ corp, and managed to have only 2 of them own 100+ member.
quality over quantity is a must
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Azran Zala
Caldari Fleet of the Damned Honourable Templum of Alcedonia
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Posted - 2010.07.01 00:46:00 -
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Edited by: Azran Zala on 01/07/2010 00:50:01
Originally by: Eve 666 Edited by: Eve 666 on 01/07/2010 00:28:25 congratz on hta
the first alliance ever who reached 100+ corp, and managed to have only 2 of them own 100+ member.
quality over quantity is a must
OMFG the MACRO SPEAKS! Currently working on a scheme to theif from Stella, or u just there for the rats? Whn you're looking to loose another afk raven again come visit.
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Roland Hova
Caldari SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.01 01:46:00 -
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Edited by: Roland Hova on 01/07/2010 01:46:23
Originally by: Guru Edited by: Guru on 30/06/2010 20:56:24 Billions upon billions of isk have been spent on towers, upgrades, start up costs, and monthly fuel all of which most were not covered by alliance dues.
You forgot to take into account rent. That alone must have set you back a bit.
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Eve 666
Caldari EternitY corp Stella Polaris.
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Posted - 2010.07.01 02:50:00 -
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Originally by: Azran Zala Edited by: Azran Zala on 01/07/2010 01:27:44
Originally by: Eve 666 Edited by: Eve 666 on 01/07/2010 00:28:25 congratz on hta
the first alliance ever who reached 100+ corp, and managed to have only 2 of them own 100+ member.
quality over quantity is a must
I didnt know MACROS had opinions... You trying to rip stella off or just found a nice deadend system to afk rat in? Kes misses you btw, he jest it was quite fitting to have killed you with a 'flycatcher'.
Funniest part for me was watching your raven pilot's pod warp from belt to belt looking for rats.
wts station/space maybe you have another 32b to share?
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Hisara
Amarr Astra Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.07.01 02:54:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Mya ElleTerego Time goes by, it seems so long But it was only days ago when things were going wrong What happened to the love, to the love we knew The days we shared were so short and so few And baby I miss you Baby I miss you Remember when it didn't rain Will I ever see the sun again And baby I miss you Baby I miss you And I only wish that I could share your love again I thought about leaving for some new place Somewhere where I, I don't have to see your face 'Cause seeing your face only brings me out in tears Thinking of the love I've wasted all through the years
Great not only a mouthy selfish elephant p***s but poetic as well? See I knew all along there was something you were hiding Don't worry once we cut that elephant p***s in half we'll make you a real boy again
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Moridin Bashere
Minmatar The Hull Miners Union Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.07.01 04:43:00 -
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Originally by: Mya ElleTerego Time goes by, it seems so long But it was only days ago when things were going wrong What happened to the love, to the love we knew The days we shared were so short and so few And baby I miss you Baby I miss you Remember when it didn't rain Will I ever see the sun again And baby I miss you Baby I miss you And I only wish that I could share your love again I thought about leaving for some new place Somewhere where I, I don't have to see your face 'Cause seeing your face only brings me out in tears Thinking of the love I've wasted all through the years
LOL lub you bro made me laugh Co-Ceo The Hull Miners Union [ONION]
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Derek Shmawesome
Minmatar We Know Derek
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Posted - 2010.07.01 08:10:00 -
[131]
Originally by: SFX Bladerunner
as opposed to 'the presidents' american english?.. how do you pronounce nuclear again?
nucular
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XenosisReaper
Caldari Rising Ashes Inc. Honourable Templum of Alcedonia
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Posted - 2010.07.01 10:05:00 -
[132]
HTA Pro Elite Blackops Posting team signing in, we didn't want that space anyway
Originally by: CCP Shadow
The name XenosisReaper will live on forever
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Corvus Dove
Caldari Majestic. Honourable Templum of Alcedonia
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Posted - 2010.07.01 12:10:00 -
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So who, precisely, holds SP now, particularly 1v and 4-c? ------------------------------------ I like long walks, a good book before bed, and human entrails served cold with a side order of scrap metal. |
Corvus Dove
Caldari Majestic. Honourable Templum of Alcedonia
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Posted - 2010.07.01 12:25:00 -
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Edited by: Corvus Dove on 01/07/2010 12:37:22
Originally by: guska Cryotank
Originally by: Corvus Dove I'd love to log in and find out the real story. Unfortunately, I can't even log in, so seeing my nose is necessary before seeing what is in front of it .
Oh well, I guess I'll just show up in about a week and adapt to whatever politics are going on in the systems at the time.
I would suggest, jumping on EVE Gate, and EVEMailing your CEO or Alliance Exec/Diplo and getting the info from them. Better to know what you're logging into than getting a shock when you do.
Probably a good call, though it looks like I gotta wait till after DT. It's been so long since I had to go without the ability to log in, I completely forgot about the Gate.
I'm guessing, however, the end result will be the same; I'll have a choice between firesales and insurance fraud, then shuttlejumping like a fiend OR dropping corp and trying to get hired on with whomever has sovereignty.
At least I'm on a long skilltraining now.
Edit: So much for firesales and insurance fraud. Apparently we're losing docking rights in 4-c and 1v, or already have, which means I can't get to any of it. ------------------------------------ I like long walks, a good book before bed, and human entrails served cold with a side order of scrap metal. |
aratillion
Gallente Independent Coalition Honourable Templum of Alcedonia
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Posted - 2010.07.01 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Corvus Dove So who, precisely, holds SP now, particularly 1v and 4-c?
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Scalding_Pass
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Corvus Dove
Caldari Majestic. Honourable Templum of Alcedonia
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Posted - 2010.07.01 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: aratillion
Originally by: Corvus Dove So who, precisely, holds SP now, particularly 1v and 4-c?
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Scalding_Pass
This furthers my confusion, since it's Primary. ------------------------------------ I like long walks, a good book before bed, and human entrails served cold with a side order of scrap metal. |
Dental Floss
Caldari 1st Cavalry Division Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.01 15:38:00 -
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First my corp narrowly missed joining IRC and being held hostage by Burn Eden. and now we left Primary. after the Esoteria debacle and escaped this cluster****. We here at 1st Cav are becoming professional bullet dodgers.
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aratillion
Gallente Independent Coalition Honourable Templum of Alcedonia
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Posted - 2010.07.01 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: Corvus Dove
Originally by: aratillion
Originally by: Corvus Dove So who, precisely, holds SP now, particularly 1v and 4-c?
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Scalding_Pass
This furthers my confusion, since it's Primary.
Primary. still exists as a name.
I believe COW and GC will take over soon enough.
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Yahuang Doujiao
Gallente The Nerd Herd
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Posted - 2010.07.01 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: Corvus Dove
Originally by: aratillion
Originally by: Corvus Dove So who, precisely, holds SP now, particularly 1v and 4-c?
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Scalding_Pass
This furthers my confusion, since it's Primary.
Corvus, if you look at the sovereignty information, you can see the stations are owned by HTA Station Management, an HTA alt corp. That corp will soon leave Primary, rejoin HTA, transfer ownership to the executor corp, then Primary will unanchor their TCU and HTA will anchor their own and ta da, HTA will have station systems without having to go through 2 RF timers.
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XenosisReaper
Caldari Rising Ashes Inc. Honourable Templum of Alcedonia
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Posted - 2010.07.01 16:08:00 -
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Originally by: Yahuang Doujiao
Originally by: Corvus Dove
Originally by: aratillion
Originally by: Corvus Dove So who, precisely, holds SP now, particularly 1v and 4-c?
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Scalding_Pass
This furthers my confusion, since it's Primary.
Corvus, if you look at the sovereignty information, you can see the stations are owned by HTA Station Management, an HTA alt corp. That corp will soon leave Primary, rejoin HTA, transfer ownership to the executor corp, then Primary will unanchor their TCU and HTA will anchor their own and ta da, HTA will have station systems without having to go through 2 RF timers.
Except we won't, if you had read the other thread.
Originally by: CCP Shadow
The name XenosisReaper will live on forever
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Raser Moonstrider
Caldari Woopatang Primary.
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Posted - 2010.07.01 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: Dental Floss First my corp narrowly missed joining IRC and being held hostage by Burn Eden. and now we left Primary. after the Esoteria debacle and escaped this cluster****. We here at 1st Cav are becoming professional bullet dodgers.
Lol, that's a pretty good skill to have.
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Corvus Dove
Caldari Majestic. Honourable Templum of Alcedonia
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Posted - 2010.07.01 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: XenosisReaper
Except we won't, if you had read the other thread.
Or the vast majority of this one. ------------------------------------ I like long walks, a good book before bed, and human entrails served cold with a side order of scrap metal. |
8O2080208O2080208020
Minmatar Alliance Logo Inc Clown Punchers Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.07.01 18:49:00 -
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Originally by: Corvus Dove So who, precisely, holds SP now, particularly 1v and 4-c?
***gots
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Cupdeez
Caldari Out of Order Cult of War
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Posted - 2010.07.01 21:21:00 -
[144]
Hmm....
So yeah COW has been talking about removing Primay for the last 6 months on our forums.
Reasons: 1. The have no recruiting standards (everyone gets in 50 corp and only 1800 member) 2. They recruited Corps COW/GC kicked for not being an active PVP Corp 3. Our allies like Atlas didn't trust them 4. They rarely came on COW/GC CTA's that both alliances had heavy participation. 5. When Caps were involved we didn't tell Primary because well they recruited anyone and we didn't want to lose our Cap fleet because of them. 6. We killed a few of their marco rat hunters ratting in our space and they openly admitted they forgot to turn their marco (pretty funny)
Anyone who fights or pvps in the area knows who most gangs were comprised of.
Stats below for people who like to think Primary was a PVP entity.
Primary
Gents Club
COW
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8O2080208O2080208020
Minmatar Alliance Logo Inc Clown Punchers Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.07.01 21:42:00 -
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Edited by: 8O2080208O2080208020 on 01/07/2010 21:43:18
Originally by: Cupdeez
1. The have no recruiting standards
Anyone who fights or pvps in the area knows who most gangs were comprised of.
this does of course, exclude yourself yes?
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Xornicon Altair
Caldari Woopatang Primary.
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Posted - 2010.07.01 22:35:00 -
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Edited by: Xornicon Altair on 01/07/2010 22:35:38
Originally by: Cupdeez So yeah COW has been talking about removing Primay for the last 6 months on our forums.
And, yet, when we found out about this and asked you about it, you denied it. -1 point for lying to us.
Originally by: Cupdeez 1. The have no recruiting standards (everyone gets in 50 corp and only 1800 member)
Our recruiting standards are much higher than you might think. Or were. But, this is clearly an opinion.
Originally by: Cupdeez 2. They recruited Corps COW/GC kicked for not being an active PVP Corp
One corp. Named "Ominous". Came from COW. Clearly this qualifies as multiples. And they weren't that bad, over all.
Originally by: Cupdeez 3. Our allies like Atlas didn't trust them
Did you ever try to help that image by telling them how useful we are? Didn't think so.
Originally by: Cupdeez 4. They rarely came on COW/GC CTA's that both alliances had heavy participation.
You called a CTA early in our time in Scalding Pass. Primary showed up with 75 people, including the bulk of our capital fleet. I'll admit that at the time, 75 and the bulk of our capital fleet didn't amount to much, but, it was more than you had. Then the FC who called the CTA decided that he was too tired to run it and went to bed. After much diplomatic discussion, it was agreed that any COW or GC "CTA" would be optional to Primary. pilots.
The poor turnouts were your own doing, not to mention that when we did turn up, your FCs consistantly used Primary. pilots as expendable or your membership took the opportunity to remind us of how pathetic we were to them. I wouldn't expect anyone to show up under those conditions.
Originally by: Cupdeez 5. When Caps were involved we didn't tell Primary because well they recruited anyone and we didn't want to lose our Cap fleet because of them.
Another reason why we didn't show up to ops. You didn't tell us how the op would go down, our Capital Pilots who were ready to put their ships on the line to help you were unused, and so, there was no point.
Originally by: Cupdeez 6. We killed a few of their marco rat hunters ratting in our space and they openly admitted they forgot to turn their marco (pretty funny)
Logs, please. And why didn't you tell us there were macro ratters in our alliance? We would have removed them immediately. And for that matter, why didn't you report these to CCP? You had the logs.
Originally by: Cupdeez Anyone who fights or pvps in the area knows who most gangs were comprised of.
Clearly you never came to any Primary. operations to see how many people we were putting on the field. And maybe we should have left your systems to fall whenever Section XIII/Pulsar were attacking them while you were off in the North failing to be successful?
Originally by: Cupdeez Stats below for people who like to think Primary was a PVP entity.
Primary
Goodness! PvP ships! Who would have expected that?
Originally by: Cupdeez Gents Club
Mindless devotion to PvP leaves an alliance weak and unable to support itself. Still, good job on the numbers of kills.
I'm not sure what you were trying to prove with your post, but, it's not working. ----- CCP FAILS AGAIN! WHERE ARE THE ALLIANCE LOGOS??? |
Guru
Caldari Woopatang Primary.
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Posted - 2010.07.01 23:13:00 -
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Quote: Originally by: Cupdeez6. We killed a few of their marco rat hunters ratting in our space and they openly admitted they forgot to turn their marco (pretty funny)
This is the best one out of all of them.. I remember this. This corp he is speaking of is x-cow. :P lol "Mind Over Matter: If I don't mind, it don't matter." WWW.EVE-WOOPATANG.COM |
ShadowandLight
Amarr Doom Guard Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.07.02 00:23:00 -
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i was only Primary for a short while, but they were / are a good alliance that had alot of dedicated people.
Operations were always being called and the FC's / Guru made every attempt to get people out PVPing.
Theres only so many PVP'ers in Eve. When you figure in Alts and people who just hate to PVP to begin with you get left with a non-significant number. Thats life, show me any large alliance and i would say less then 25% ever PVP. Period.
I do remember having very limited contact with COW / GC and Primary.... Seems like they made sure of that eh?
------- "The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger All of his fury and rage. He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels" - The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1
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Achem
Minmatar Borderlands corp True Reign
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Posted - 2010.07.02 01:11:00 -
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Originally by: Hisara
Originally by: Mya ElleTerego Time goes by, it seems so long But it was only days ago when things were going wrong What happened to the love, to the love we knew The days we shared were so short and so few And baby I miss you Baby I miss you Remember when it didn't rain Will I ever see the sun again And baby I miss you Baby I miss you And I only wish that I could share your love again I thought about leaving for some new place Somewhere where I, I don't have to see your face 'Cause seeing your face only brings me out in tears Thinking of the love I've wasted all through the years
Great not only a mouthy selfish elephant p***s but poetic as well? See I knew all along there was something you were hiding Don't worry once we cut that elephant p***s in half we'll make you a real boy again
Girls, girls, ok settle down. You are BOTH very pretty, no need to fight
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Joe Kaperski
Caldari Cryo Innovations Honourable Templum of Alcedonia
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Posted - 2010.07.02 06:48:00 -
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The amount of misinformation in this thread is outstanding. :D
/me loves CAOD
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