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Anslo
Disciples of Night DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2010.06.29 14:57:00 -
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I wasn't too surprised that ORE would be unveiling a new industrial vessel for CONCORD's latest act in allowing us presence on planets. I was however surprised to hear we would all be receiving one free of charge. What are your thoughts on the new vessel we will all soon be obtaining? What are your hopes for it?
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Otocinclus
Minmatar Project Nemesis The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:05:00 -
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k.
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Alica Wildfire
Minmatar Federal Investigations Agency
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:06:00 -
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For still nobody knows about the stats of this vessel, there have been pictures of it on certain media. It's simply looking great. I think it will be a kind of sub-industrial vessel with a cargo huge enough to transport all kind of command centers. this means around 3000 m¦, but that's nothing but an educated guess.
It will not be a competition for the small industrial vessels in size of cargohold, not in way of setup modules. It is an easy to fly vessel for those capsuleers that still have not the training for industrials, but the planets really need capsuleer investments for exploitation of natural ressources.
The markets are thin on products at the moment and everybody is needed to provide his share. The titanic task that is waiting for us capsuleers will not be achieved by the few high level industrialists, it can only be achieved if everybody is doing his share.
ORE provides this vessel to encourage this. And we capsuleers will serve the people. We will fulfill the demands. And I guess it's just a few minutes before the first pirate can stick the trophy of one of this vessels on his killboard.
"First" -- FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS
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Nikita Alterana
Gallente Risen Angels
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:10:00 -
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ORE are too shrewd a business to just give away ships.
So whats the catch?
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Casiella Truza
Ecliptic Rift
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:47:00 -
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At a minimum, goodwill. I'm not naive enough to expect that's the whole thing, but that's certainly part of it.
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Verone
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:58:00 -
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It's pretty useless, in my opinion as a qualified starship Engineer.
I guess I'll be stripping mine down to its core components and breaking it for spares. Surely there's got to be something useful among its hardware.
>>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<< |
Alica Wildfire
Minmatar Federal Investigations Agency
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Posted - 2010.06.29 17:01:00 -
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Core components? That's fun.
Reprocess: you'll receive 0 units of Tritanium. This I got from my reprocessing engineer as a result.
The ship is built by a very special design and I hardly can identify much of its parts by inspection. Yes, the design is great, I can fit three Gyrostabilizers in the lowslots, additionally one damage control, which makes it quite nasty. I can't find the place to put the guns on though, but I'm new on this ship I have not inspected everything.
There was a big blast shutter door: "MAIN CARGO"
I'm a small person and so I was lucky to fit into it. I think I will put some Eau du Nichup into it. The coffeemachine in the galley was working quite fine. It was telling me how wonderful it was for it to serve me a hot steaming coffee.
And the stuff it served was almost but on totally not a coffee. I hope I can fix this. Maybe if I install a Wetware Mainframe into the cargohold I can pimp the coffee machine up a bit.
So. I went down the main alley to search for more things. There is an external anchor point for planetary command centers and then I found a special cargo room for planetary commodities. But it's just 1000 m¦ big, so I have the choice to be uncool and fly with an industrial one time to get my stuff, or to have this awsome coffeemachine with me and fly ten times.
Yay! But the design, yeah the design!
If I can get one on my killboard?
-- FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS
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Versuvius Marii
The Heartless Foundation
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Posted - 2010.06.29 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Alica Wildfire Yes, the design is great, I can fit three Gyrostabilizers in the lowslots, additionally one damage control, which makes it quite nasty.
Pray tell, why are you fitting gyro's to a ship with no high slots? Surely your engineer should tell you that the Primae is only equipped with four slots of the low variety. I suggest removing him from your presence, and employing someone who wears some form of spectacles.
For my own part, I fail to see what I can achieve with this vessel that I could not already do with a Crane, for example. While ORE made a generous move, surely this ship is nothing more than a publicity stunt for the already under-fire industrial sector - pun intended.
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Alica Wildfire
Minmatar Federal Investigations Agency
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Posted - 2010.06.29 18:22:00 -
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But they called it Primary!
No, don't put the blame on my fitting engineer. I put a gun to his head and told him to start fitting Gyrostabilizers because I have no ships without at least one gun fittet - except my shuttles of cause. You can get more of what you want with a nice word and a gun than just with a nice word, that's for sure.
And I gave him an ultimatum to find a way to put 180mm Duals on that thing. That was a nice move to not force him to put 1400mm Artilleries. The man's a genious, you will see, I trust fully to his competence to deliver me what I need.
A damn small vessel with just 150 sig, three gyrostabs in low, a row of 180mm Dual Autocannons in the highslots that's looking like a harmless industrial. See me going dive that thing into a steep circle around the target and waste him by surprise.
Perfect!
It's absolutely perfect! -- FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2010.06.29 18:50:00 -
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It looks like a typically shoddy piece of foreign workmanship to me.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Versuvius Marii
The Heartless Foundation
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Posted - 2010.06.29 19:40:00 -
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Surely a more logical choice for a high-powered device to be fitted to such a craft would be a tractor beam, to better suit its role... but then I must remind myself that the Primae is not capable of fitting such high levels of tech :P
Alicia, might I urge you to lay off the Amarr Victor a little bit? It's clearly clouding your judgement more than a little. You ask the impossible of your engineer, who must clearly be deceiving you in some fashion if he's somehow convinced you he's fitted any form of projectile weapon to your new craft :P
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Vlad McCain
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Posted - 2010.06.29 21:06:00 -
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really? im trying to make my engineer cut some holes for a nice caldari navy shield generator and some tachyon laser cannons...
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Vaarun
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2010.06.29 21:14:00 -
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Edited by: Vaarun on 29/06/2010 21:17:38 There is an old saying: One does not pull back the scent-membranes of a gifted slavehound.
The same rationale applies here.
For those who would criticise the Primae, I would remind you that it is a non-combat ship, it is designed for a specific purpose, it is free, and receiving it in any form still requires effort on your part to accept it.
If you do not like it, wait two weeks and it will never have to even touch one of your hangars. Ignore the gift-box on your screen.
You expected a world-shaking gift for free?
I, for one, was suprised it even has low-slots which gives it added utility. If you cannot appreciate the gift or recognize it's usefulness, I must wonder what you would have expected from ORE...for free?
I realize that to some the notion of a "gift" means something of great value or beauty, but even in situations such as this (where the Primae is neither), the correct response is still "Thank you."
So, thank you to the ORE Corporation. I will use it often. "To bring order to chaos, one must bring chaos to its knees."
-Vaarun |
Alica Wildfire
Minmatar Federal Investigations Agency
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Posted - 2010.06.29 22:15:00 -
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YAY!
I have Autocannons on my Primae! Thank you, ORE. Thank you very much for this fine vessel.
What is this? These are cardboards with the picture of a gun on it? Where is my engineer?! Get me my engineer? What? Planetside? WHICH ONE? ORBITAL BOM..
<CONNECTION LOSS> -- FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS
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Stitcher
Caldari ForgeTech Industries
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Posted - 2010.06.29 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: Vaarun Edited by: Vaarun on 29/06/2010 21:17:38 There is an old saying: One does not pull back the scent-membranes of a gifted slavehound.
Why in the name of everything obscene would anybody want to? - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain. |
Graelyn
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2010.06.29 23:49:00 -
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To examine it's teeth, of course.
In the Primae's case, it has none, sadly. It may have to be put down.
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James Vayne
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Posted - 2010.06.30 03:18:00 -
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Some may not have noticed that the Primae has three cargo holds.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.06.30 03:30:00 -
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Hull tank anyone?
I don't know what to do with this ship.
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Alica Wildfire
Minmatar Federal Investigations Agency
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Posted - 2010.06.30 10:23:00 -
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Edited by: Alica Wildfire on 30/06/2010 10:25:39
Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer I don't know what to do with this ship.
First: it's nice Second: it's free Third: you're just too damn old for it, man
If you are a young capsuleer and still have not clearance for industrial vessels, and I know a lot of them. A lot who think "industrials" were for them way out of reach and that all this exploitation of planetary ressources would be something for the major players but not for them.
ORE shows those new pilots with this present, that it's not like this. And not only that you can transport a nice amount of planetary commodities in that cargo - be honest man - if you don't fly industrials you would have difficulties to find something with 1000 m¦ cargo room. Especially this "cheap".
Okay. I pimped my Probe up to this. But I'm a bit mad about frigates to be frank. And it needs a lot of skills to do it. A "lot" of skills for a new pilot.
While you can argue about a lot of things about this vessel and make some jokes about it, which I admit, is not completely out of my possibilities, it has a fair coffee machine on board. A bit stupid that thing but you can make something of it.
And imagine all those industrial corporations out there. We have met many of them and most pilots in those corporations can only fly a frigate because it is needed for the Hulk. But those corporations are proud too. They do fly for protocol and in formations at important events. For example if they put up their first own POS in the orbit of an unimportant moon somewhere.
And then when the ships are standing cordon, the Primae is looking very nice on the photo. And it will be just alongside the mighty Hulks, with an Orca behind those maybe. It's nice. It's about pride and "this is what we do!"
It is really a nice gift from ORE to be honest. I like it. It is not of much use for an older capsuleer, but did I ever used the solar glider ship that was for free a few months ago to explore a wormhole?
I think not.
But you see that thing everytime when people want to show something special. Something that is fitting their style. And style - that's the Primae.
The only thing that I regret is that it can't fit Autocannons. -- FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS
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James Vayne
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Posted - 2010.06.30 11:47:00 -
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Edited by: James Vayne on 30/06/2010 11:46:51
Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer Hull tank anyone?
I don't know what to do with this ship.
Sell it to some fool, probably Amarr, for seventy five million as I did.
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Persephone Astrid
The Bastards
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Posted - 2010.07.01 02:02:00 -
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It's useless. I think I'll give mine to my parents as a thank you gift for sending me to the Academy.
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foksieloy
Minmatar Universal Army Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.07.01 07:06:00 -
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Originally by: Alica Wildfire YAY!
I have Autocannons on my Primae! Thank you, ORE. Thank you very much for this fine vessel.
What is this? These are cardboards with the picture of a gun on it? Where is my engineer?! Get me my engineer? What? Planetside? WHICH ONE? ORBITAL BOM..
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Miss Alica, some days you live up to your surname more than others. Next time I have a spirits drinking party, you are invited. Just do not bring your engineer. _______________________ Drink Eau du Nichup«, the taste of heaven. Now available as Nichup Citrus« as well! |
Myrhial Arkenath
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2010.07.01 10:17:00 -
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It beats operating a pilgrim with cargo expanders, so I am quite happy with mine right now. It's an alright starter vessel and a bit more wieldy than an industrial ship, but it overall feels a bit like a gimmick and a cheap advertising stunt of ORE. Or maybe we're just all testing a prototype here. I'll not say no to things given freely, but for the more serious work a blockade runner is vastly superior.
Blog: Diary of a Pod Pilot |
Imiarr Timshae
Caldari Funny Men In Funny Hats
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Posted - 2010.07.01 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: Nikita Alterana ORE are too shrewd a business to just give away ships.
So whats the catch?
It's useless.
Clearly ORE accidentally made an error on the production line, and they'd not noticed until hundreds of thousands were made, since they reprocess to zero tritanium they decided it would be best to get a PR boost by giving them to capsuleers, "free".
Yes, that's right. You are being used as waste disposal. -----
Originally by: GM Horse
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Originally by: CCP Shadow Tragic smelting accidents.
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Alica Wildfire
Minmatar Federal Investigations Agency
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Posted - 2010.07.01 13:48:00 -
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Originally by: Imiarr Timshae Clearly ORE accidentally made an error on the production line, and they'd not noticed until hundreds of thousands were made, since they reprocess to zero tritanium they decided it would be best to get a PR boost by giving them to capsuleers, "free".
I have a different theory. ORE just got a huge load full of coffee machines from a discounter and had not found a way to sell them with profit. So some smartassed sales managers were deciding in a meeting that it would be a perfect idea to build a well designed ship around that coffee machine to boost it's attractiveness.
Because the sales promotion guy had that nice and shiny sheet where they could see that the Hulk was a top seller this week and if they would couple their product with this top-seller they could simply jump the train.
So they called the product designer to their meeting as an emergency. And he was able to present one of his latest concept industrial vessels that was looking even cooler than the mighty Hulk. The advertising psychologist confirmed that the Hulk was the most flown ship all around New Eden and so they decided that this idea was just brilliant, especially after the young female advertising psychologist and the sales promotion guy had a short but sweaty private meeting on the ladies closet.
Everyone in that meeting was patting on the shoulder of the next and congratulate each other to this great achievment and how unbelievable everybody was.
But nobody had invited the spaceship technician who was during that time ordered to repair a copy machine on the corridor of the post office.
The guy who ordered to build a sample of that product accidently had exchanged the price and the number to build for the production line manager, most likely because his vision was slightly drug distorted due to the meeting aftermath and so it came that ORE suddenly had a very very beautiful vessel build around a smart coffee machine which was all in all useless because nobody had found it important to consult the spaceship technician.
True story. -- FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS
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