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Marlona Sky
D00M. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.07.02 00:56:00 -
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Should the original +10% per level of carrier be brought back for the supercarriers? I mean provided the Hel actually had a good bonus and all.
Thoughts?
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.07.02 01:24:00 -
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of what?
Originally by: CCP Shadow Have you ever wished you could have prevented a train wreck before it actually happened? I need to stop this one before the craziness begins.
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Marlona Sky
D00M. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.07.02 05:46:00 -
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Originally by: Lance Fighter of what?
i.e. 10% resistance to armor resist per level of amarr carrier
Like when they first came out.
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Roemy Schneider
Vanishing Point.
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Posted - 2010.07.02 05:54:00 -
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*shrug* it'll be amarr-online either way - putting the gist back into logistics |
Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.07.02 06:03:00 -
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Because super carriers like EHP now?
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Lord Haur
Amarr Reaction Theory
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Posted - 2010.07.02 10:45:00 -
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12k DPS nyx? Yes please
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Varrakk
Arcana Imperii Ltd. Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.02 13:55:00 -
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Super Carriers already insanely over powered in their current state. If anything, they need to be nerfed.
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Ap0ll0n
Gallente Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.02 13:58:00 -
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Originally by: Varrakk Super Carriers already insanely over powered in their current state. If anything, they need to be nerfed.
Like how, and why?
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Varrakk
Arcana Imperii Ltd. Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.02 14:17:00 -
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Too much DPS and EHP
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Waxau
Total Mayhem. Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2010.07.02 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: Varrakk Too much DPS and EHP
Guessing you dont have the isk for one, right? :D
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Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2010.07.02 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: Varrakk Too much DPS and EHP
not enough dps tbh.
dread gets 5k+, fully skilled SC do 8-10k big whoop 20x the cost no insurance no basic insurance. all for barly double the dps.
they need the EHP to survive and fight counter blobs before the inevitable server/node crashes, or its just a 20 bil glass cannon.
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Lorna Loot
Caldari NibbleTek RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.07.02 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: Waxau
Originally by: Varrakk Too much DPS and EHP
Guessing you dont have the isk for one, right? :D
He's already lost two.
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Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2010.07.02 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: Lorna Loot
Originally by: Waxau
Originally by: Varrakk Too much DPS and EHP
Guessing you dont have the isk for one, right? :D
He's already lost two.
lol so waxu was spot on then..
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Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.07.02 18:18:00 -
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How about: - 10% whatevers for supercarriers because they need to be able to survive 24 hours of being shot by 1000 sieged close range dreads because they cost a lot - Supercaps lose ewar immunity in low sec - Supercarriers lose fighter bombers in low sec - Titans lose bridges in low sec
Take your 0.0 toys back to 0.0... not that you'll do anything with them there anyway because its an enormous nap fest anyway.
-Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire |
Kenneth McCoy
Habitual Euthanasia Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2010.07.02 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren How about: - 10% whatevers for supercarriers because they need to be able to survive 24 hours of being shot by 1000 sieged close range dreads because they cost a lot - Supercaps lose ewar immunity in low sec - Supercarriers lose fighter bombers in low sec - Titans lose bridges in low sec
Take your 0.0 toys back to 0.0... not that you'll do anything with them there anyway because its an enormous nap fest anyway.
-Liang
hahahah, still crying I see...
just fyi: there's no such thing as "0.0 toys". Welcome to the sandbox.
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NoNah
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Posted - 2010.07.02 18:59:00 -
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I'd say Doomsdays, bubbles and outposts are all pretty much 0.0 toys, no?
Parrots, commence!
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Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.07.02 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: Kenneth McCoy
Originally by: Liang Nuren How about: - 10% whatevers for supercarriers because they need to be able to survive 24 hours of being shot by 1000 sieged close range dreads because they cost a lot - Supercaps lose ewar immunity in low sec - Supercarriers lose fighter bombers in low sec - Titans lose bridges in low sec
Take your 0.0 toys back to 0.0... not that you'll do anything with them there anyway because its an enormous nap fest anyway.
-Liang
hahahah, still crying I see...
just fyi: there's no such thing as "0.0 toys". Welcome to the sandbox.
A quick yank to set the hook...
-Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire |
Ap0ll0n
Gallente Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.02 22:00:00 -
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The only SC that needs a buff, is the Hel, other than that, SC's are fine as they are. They do 2 things, dps and tank, and neither is overpowered.
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Varrakk
Arcana Imperii Ltd. Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.03 16:20:00 -
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I don't know how you can objectively think the SC's balanced.
A Nyx got 20x EHP over a Moros and 30x EHP over a Thanatos. DPS wise, the Nyx is easily 3x of Moros and 4-5x of Thanatos against capitals. And you get all this for only 20x cost of a dread and about 30x of the carrier.
Compare this price vs performance to a Titan. EHP is roughly the same but 4x DPS of a Titan. Excluding the DD which doesn't work in low sec or on structures.
And thank you all for worrying so much about my economy. I got both SC and Titan with some hundred billions in cash to replace them.
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Elle L'Zute
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Posted - 2010.07.03 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren How about: - 10% whatevers for supercarriers because they need to be able to survive 24 hours of being shot by 1000 sieged close range dreads because they cost a lot - Supercaps lose ewar immunity in low sec - Supercarriers lose fighter bombers in low sec - Titans lose bridges in low sec
Take your 0.0 toys back to 0.0... not that you'll do anything with them there anyway because its an enormous nap fest anyway.
-Liang
qft
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Lindsay Logan
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Posted - 2010.07.03 20:03:00 -
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Originally by: Waxau
Originally by: Varrakk Too much DPS and EHP
Guessing you dont have the isk for one, right? :D
Because they are bad for long term game balance.
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Ap0ll0n
Gallente Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.03 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Varrakk I don't know how you can objectively think the SC's balanced.
A Nyx got 20x EHP over a Moros and 30x EHP over a Thanatos. DPS wise, the Nyx is easily 3x of Moros and 4-5x of Thanatos against capitals. And you get all this for only 20x cost of a dread and about 30x of the carrier.
Compare this price vs performance to a Titan. EHP is roughly the same but 4x DPS of a Titan. Excluding the DD which doesn't work in low sec or on structures.
And thank you all for worrying so much about my economy. I got both SC and Titan with some hundred billions in cash to replace them.
Thats only because you pimp them with deadspace mods, T2 trimarks and slave implants. Try fit a Nyx with only T2 and no implants. Compared to a similar fit Thanatos, you get like 7-8 times more ehp, but still the ships costs like what, 15-20 times more.
Supers are not overpowered.
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Smk56
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Posted - 2010.07.03 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: Ap0ll0n
Originally by: Varrakk I don't know how you can objectively think the SC's balanced.
A Nyx got 20x EHP over a Moros and 30x EHP over a Thanatos. DPS wise, the Nyx is easily 3x of Moros and 4-5x of Thanatos against capitals. And you get all this for only 20x cost of a dread and about 30x of the carrier.
Compare this price vs performance to a Titan. EHP is roughly the same but 4x DPS of a Titan. Excluding the DD which doesn't work in low sec or on structures.
And thank you all for worrying so much about my economy. I got both SC and Titan with some hundred billions in cash to replace them.
Thats only because you pimp them with deadspace mods, T2 trimarks and slave implants. Try fit a Nyx with only T2 and no implants. Compared to a similar fit Thanatos, you get like 7-8 times more ehp, but still the ships costs like what, 15-20 times more.
Supers are not overpowered.
Every, EVERY decent fit SC is pimped like that. Using a fail fit as comparison is well, fail. Overpowered or not.
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Asuka Smith
Gallente StarHunt
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Posted - 2010.07.04 00:55:00 -
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Edited by: Asuka Smith on 04/07/2010 00:54:53
Originally by: Kenneth McCoy
Originally by: Liang Nuren How about: - 10% whatevers for supercarriers because they need to be able to survive 24 hours of being shot by 1000 sieged close range dreads because they cost a lot - Supercaps lose ewar immunity in low sec - Supercarriers lose fighter bombers in low sec - Titans lose bridges in low sec
Take your 0.0 toys back to 0.0... not that you'll do anything with them there anyway because its an enormous nap fest anyway.
-Liang
hahahah, still crying I see...
just fyi: there's no such thing as "0.0 toys". Welcome to the sandbox.
dictor bubbles only function in 0.0, smartbombs as well.
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andeira
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Posted - 2010.07.04 13:38:00 -
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confirming smartbombs only work in 0.0
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Ap0ll0n
Gallente Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.04 14:42:00 -
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Originally by: Smk56
Originally by: Ap0ll0n
Originally by: Varrakk I don't know how you can objectively think the SC's balanced.
A Nyx got 20x EHP over a Moros and 30x EHP over a Thanatos. DPS wise, the Nyx is easily 3x of Moros and 4-5x of Thanatos against capitals. And you get all this for only 20x cost of a dread and about 30x of the carrier.
Compare this price vs performance to a Titan. EHP is roughly the same but 4x DPS of a Titan. Excluding the DD which doesn't work in low sec or on structures.
And thank you all for worrying so much about my economy. I got both SC and Titan with some hundred billions in cash to replace them.
Thats only because you pimp them with deadspace mods, T2 trimarks and slave implants. Try fit a Nyx with only T2 and no implants. Compared to a similar fit Thanatos, you get like 7-8 times more ehp, but still the ships costs like what, 15-20 times more.
Supers are not overpowered.
Every, EVERY decent fit SC is pimped like that. Using a fail fit as comparison is well, fail. Overpowered or not.
You failed to understand..
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Shereza
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Posted - 2010.07.04 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Haur 12k DPS nyx? Yes please
Doesn't it already pull 12.5k in EFT with bombers?
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Ap0ll0n
Gallente Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.05 09:15:00 -
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Originally by: Shereza
Originally by: Lord Haur 12k DPS nyx? Yes please
Doesn't it already pull 12.5k in EFT with bombers?
With a lolfit of 5 DCU's, yeah, but with a sane fit, its 10k..
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2010.07.05 10:26:00 -
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Originally by: Ap0ll0n The only SC that needs a buff, is the Hel, other than that, SC's are fine as they are. They do 2 things, dps and tank, and neither is overpowered.
Agreed on that! á
I think CSM is a pretty cool guy. eh creates e-drama and doesnt afraid of anything. |
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