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The Rastafarian
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Posted - 2010.07.04 18:11:00 -
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What is the point of people that whine and cry about carebears when you cannot leave highsec anyway without running into a gatecamp and being podded?
Has anyone watched these gate camps and notice how it behaves eerily like macro miners?
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.07.04 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: The Rastafarian What is the point of people that whine and cry about carebears when you cannot leave highsec anyway without running into a gatecamp and being podded?
What is the point in speculating about this when you have clearly not looked into getting into lowsec in a route that isn't camped?
Pirates don't camp every system that has a hisec connection. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
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WhiteSavage
Gallente Ever Flow Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.04 18:20:00 -
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hmmm... macro pvp....
lol
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Gladys Pank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.07.04 18:20:00 -
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Exactly 0/10
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Fyretracker Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2010.07.04 18:22:00 -
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Low sec used to be scary for making a shopping run for something cheap. then i got a Crane. Cloakships are so much fun to snoop around low sec with.
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The Rastafarian
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Posted - 2010.07.04 18:27:00 -
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I guess my point is instead of crying about people that are in hisec do something about all the campers keeping them there instead. People aren't staying in hiec for fear of losing a ship, they do it because if it leads to the same end result there is no reason to go into lowsec.
Things like Hulkageddon, it's easy for everyone to blame the miner, but the miner is not the cause of this problem.
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.07.04 20:26:00 -
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Originally by: The Rastafarian What is the point of people that whine and cry about carebears when you cannot leave highsec anyway without running into a gatecamp and being podded?
Has anyone watched these gate camps and notice how it behaves eerily like macro miners?
In lowsec its not "pirates", it's "blues" and "Reds". Most "goodguy" corps consider non blues to mean red. Either way its a mute point, get a scout or scout yourself in a jumpclone in a shuttle. Lowsec is hard for new players but not new characters. my alt went to lowsec his first day. This is clearly a signature. |
Darth Kilth
Minmatar DRAMA Inc
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Posted - 2010.07.04 20:31:00 -
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There are plenty of ways to get into low-sec without running in a Gate camp, in fact I got a low-sec entrance just a few jumps from where I live that has so far NEVER been camped.... to my knowledge.
Just use a disposable ship and a jump clone to probe for a good place to enter low-sec. I could give more general tips like check the map and such but I'm pretty sure you heard those before.
Most campers are just carebears with an eye patch anyway.
Originally by: CCP Capslock OH GOD THE TESTING
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Jennifer Fenring
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.07.04 20:48:00 -
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Edited by: Jennifer Fenring on 04/07/2010 20:51:37 Tbh I'm very scared & afraid but I did like 10 small cargo courier in lowsec and I never lost a ship. It's dangerous for slow ships but it's hard to camp a gate against fast frigates. Saw quite some industrial wrecks and met a few gatecamps. They can't use interdictors in lowsec so it's not as dangerous as nulsec gatecamps.
Not sure though what I should do in lowsec anyway?!
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Mandariner
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Posted - 2010.07.04 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: The Rastafarian
Things like Hulkageddon, it's easy for everyone to blame the miner, but the miner is not the cause of this problem.
Well i still wonder why there is a hulkageddon, but no such thing as a campageddon. Probably has something to do with the dps of the average mining barge.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.07.04 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: Mandariner
Well i still wonder why there is a hulkageddon, but no such thing as a campageddon. Probably has something to do with the dps of the average mining barge.
Because that is what we do the other odd 50 or so weeks of the year?
duh.
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Mist3r Evil
Caldari the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.07.04 22:07:00 -
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there are gate camps in Eve..?? in my EvE ..?? why i never
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BrundleMeth
Caldari Temporal Mechanics
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Posted - 2010.07.05 01:01:00 -
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I've been playing 18 months and never lost a ship yet......
Now I've had many destroyed but I always knew where they were, they were never lost...
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RentableMuffin
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Posted - 2010.07.05 01:34:00 -
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get some buddies and bust the gatecamp, HTFU
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knowonecanknow
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.05 01:34:00 -
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If you get podded in low sec you fail as a pilot.
On a side note, I go from high sec > low sec > null sec all the time with out getting killed at a gate camp.
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Simply Human
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Posted - 2010.07.05 02:03:00 -
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Originally by: The Rastafarian Has anyone watched these gate camps and notice how it behaves eerily like macro miners?
That's because you kill more frigates mining than in a gatecamp. |
The Rastafarian
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Posted - 2010.07.05 02:58:00 -
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actually I thought about it and i just resubbed and this hulk crap is as good of any to cancel my 2 accounts i use to mine, i am a casual player and i dont like to mission, so it leaves me to mine and now i gotta deal with hulkageddon on top of just your normal ore theives everyday.
so ccp loses 2 more accounts, just can't justify paying for a game i gotta find ways to play around the greifing.
flame all you want, doesnt matter.
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Stick Cult
Unspoken Autonomy.
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Posted - 2010.07.05 03:51:00 -
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Originally by: The Rastafarian hulkageddon ... greifing.
Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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ObviousTroll Alt
Gallente Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2010.07.05 04:30:00 -
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Lowsex is not difficult to fly in. It is also not particularly difficult to survive in either. Don't fly anything you are not willing to lose, and don't stay stationary. Never warp to 0 on a planet, moon or belt. Learn Cloaking skills. Be willing to go balls out if you get tackled, even if you don't stand a chance. Expect the ship your flying will eventually (likely sooner, than later) get blown up. Have fun. \o/ Win.
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Cole Y0unger
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2010.07.05 04:34:00 -
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Originally by: The Rastafarian actually I thought about it and i just resubbed and this hulk crap is as good of any to cancel my 2 accounts i use to mine, i am a casual player and i dont like to mission, so it leaves me to mine and now i gotta deal with hulkageddon on top of just your normal ore theives everyday.
so ccp loses 2 more accounts, just can't justify paying for a game i gotta find ways to play around the greifing.
flame all you want, doesnt matter.
So much fail here, look park your frikin barges for a week and mission, then after Hulkawhine is over go back to suckin on Scordite popcicles..
Or better yet can i haz ur stuffs?
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JohnSco
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Posted - 2010.07.05 21:23:00 -
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Really? Quitting over this? C'mon. Show some backbone and find another way to cope. Things like this are just a part of the EVE 'charm', and finding ways of getting around them are a part of the challenge. Nothing in RL is easy, so why should things be easy here? For example; Would you walk through downtown Oakland while wearing gold jewelry and flashing a wad of cash for all to see? At night? Not me. No way. And being warned ahead of time that it's dangerous to do that would make me carry a gun if I had to go there - but I'd still hide the jewelry and the cash. Do the same. Cope. Find another way to do other things during this time. Just don't bore us to death with your whining!
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The Rastafarian
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Posted - 2010.07.05 21:28:00 -
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your pvp whining is worse than mine, because it never stops, it goes on for years, do i as a miner cry about you ratting, no, we never do, imagine that.
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Mella Elcus
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Posted - 2010.07.05 21:38:00 -
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Edited by: Mella Elcus on 05/07/2010 21:39:04 The gate camps are not the problem. For even if a hulk don't die at the gate it'll most likely die at a belt a couple of minutes later. And all this for less isk per hour than mining plag in highsec
Originally by: JohnSco would make me carry a gun if I had to go there
America...
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Cozmik R5
Minmatar Chaosstorm Corporation Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium
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Posted - 2010.07.05 22:25:00 -
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If you quit over this it's kinda worse than whining, is it not?
Oh.... stuff... delete it, I don't need it. ____________________
Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try. |
JohnSco
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Posted - 2010.07.05 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: JohnSco would make me carry a gun if I had to go there
America...
Sounds like jealousy to me - at least we can nullnullown[i]a gun, and since I'm authorized to carry one, I do anyway.
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Aqriue
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Posted - 2010.07.05 23:27:00 -
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Couple of bottlenecks of EVE that really annoy me:
1. slow, linear, one skill at a time for rank 5 basic skills. 4 days +hull, 8 days + armor, 16 days +cap, over 6 weeks +shield, increasing your powergrid/CPU then not having enough so you got to train multiple "-PG/CPU upgrade skills". When done, let simmer in frustration and boredom that your now done but the world is now wide open for...more training to spec in an actual ship!
2. Straight line piloting. You can only warp to Celestial A from Celestial B, making Bookmark C, and U-turning back. Grats! Your now "deep space" from any celestial while still being in system. When in any other Science Ficiton Universe you could just magically appear anywhere in system through some complicated engine. So glad that 99.999999999% of all combat is limited to only a handful of positions in any system: Station, POS, Belts, Planets...
3. Gates. FFS! I hate gate camping. Just lost an Atron yesterday on my other character , no biggy. Bastards haven't even put the KM up, I am so disappointed . Maps says 8 ships destroyed passed hour...hm, can't be that bad... only other way is long complicated route through null and its only high-low-high-high for the pick up of the item. Jump in! So there I was, sounded by yellow downward pointing arrows, blinking -10 red lights...WTZ! SCRAM! 2X TARGET PAINTING! Caldri missiles to the right, fast locked 800mm auto cannons to the left, Heavy neutron II just missing me as I duck. 3 seconds from uncloaking, it was over, just about broke my mouse hammering warp to the next gate. Today, the same guys are still camping the gate. And EVE PVP is supposed to be hardcore requiring skills and tactics? Its got to be boring doing nothing all day.
So, the moral of the story is. Working as intended. CCP is still puzzled why some players are not interested in their crappy PVP ideals (slow CounterStrike fights of shooting through hitpoint buffers with broken active tank skills and blob hammerdown fleets, why train I don't know?). lulsuxor pilots still *****ing about lack of targets, while driving away those targets. Highsec pilots minding their own business, carrying along. Highsec rats (PC players *****ing about NPC corp pilots cause they love their sec status so much. And the world turns...
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Gladys Pank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.07.05 23:47:00 -
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Originally by: Aqriue 3 seconds from uncloaking, it was over, just about broke my mouse hammering warp to the next gate. Today, the same guys are still camping the gate. And EVE PVP is supposed to be hardcore requiring skills and tactics? Its got to be boring doing nothing all day.
So, the moral of the story is. Working as intended. CCP is still puzzled why some players are not interested in their crappy PVP ideals (slow CounterStrike fights of shooting through hitpoint buffers with broken active tank skills and blob hammerdown fleets, why train I don't know?). lulsuxor pilots still *****ing about lack of targets, while driving away those targets. Highsec pilots minding their own business, carrying along. Highsec rats (PC players *****ing about NPC corp pilots cause they love their sec status so much. And the world turns...
You are terrible.
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Felix Esperium
Lysergic Distortions Research and Development
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Posted - 2010.07.05 23:51:00 -
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Originally by: Aqriue
I'm not sure this is the right game for you.
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Weesa Wanderstar
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.07.06 00:29:00 -
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Originally by: The Rastafarian actually I thought about it and i just resubbed and this hulk crap is as good of any to cancel my 2 accounts i use to mine, i am a casual player and i dont like to mission, so it leaves me to mine and now i gotta deal with hulkageddon on top of just your normal ore theives everyday.
so ccp loses 2 more accounts, just can't justify paying for a game i gotta find ways to play around the greifing.
flame all you want, doesnt matter.
Not going to flame you. Just offering the alternative. Adapt?
There's lots of ways suggested in the forums to handle Hulkageddon. Some players are trying something new with their existing character, or make a new character before trying something new. Some miners are planning to fight back or have escorts. Some miners are even holding ore-mining contests or joining in on Hulkageddon.
I mine, but not gonna during Hulkageddon. I plan to do the career missions and Sisters of EVE. Free stuff and ISK! Who can say no to free stuff and ISK?
All of the above are positive ways to handle this event. Cancelling your two accounts isn't going to make Hulkaggedon go away.
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Skydell
Umbrella Amarr
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Posted - 2010.07.06 01:31:00 -
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Combat Macros are very common in EvE. Unlike high sec where its the result of mind numbingly boring PvE and other repetition, 0.0 sec resorted to macro based combat to deal with the crippling lagg.
As far as Hulkageddon goes, it has nothing to do with mining. Its an excuse to camp high sec without being seen as a 'carebear'. When in fact they are just that. To any miner impacted by this, get a blockade runner, head for faction 0.0 sec and do some PI. Let the real carebears of EvE sit on the high sec gates and moan about no targets. |
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