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Tribunia
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Posted - 2010.07.05 05:00:00 -
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Edited by: Tribunia on 05/07/2010 05:01:15 Ungated systems, a huge swath of them meaning a ten- or hundredfold increase of the total number of solar systems in the eve universe, meant to be reached by specilized exploration craft desgined for traversing interstellar space the 'traditional way' taking weeks, or even months of real time to reach.
Once at a new system, players should be able to link it up to jumpbridge networks or use titan bridge for access.
We ve been needing true exploration content for years, CCP! Damn! It s about time!
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Tribunia
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Posted - 2010.07.08 07:24:00 -
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This is what it all should be about: conquest of new space through discovery and adventure.
But, I guess most people playing are inclined towards the notion that conquest is something done with only guns.
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James Vayne
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Posted - 2010.07.08 07:38:00 -
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Ungated Wormhole space is that way ------------->
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Ninetails o'Cat
League of Super Evil
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Posted - 2010.07.08 07:38:00 -
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We could have it accessible by wormholes or something, how cool would that be?
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Negotiator Primus
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Posted - 2010.07.08 07:48:00 -
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Some kind of a capital who is a stargate builder? Which can be used to extend space , this would be a nice isk sink and start a new run on systems. Maybe the only way to get EVE 0.0 a bit into movement.
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Shin Dari
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Posted - 2010.07.08 09:28:00 -
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To make this feasible you would need a mobile base.
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Bilko Bobski
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Posted - 2010.07.08 10:26:00 -
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I think that sounds like a great idea, I assume the difference between this and WH space would be the lack of connections between them, and the persistence of route to get to them?
If something like this was implemented; I think some form of dynamic map could be really useful - where your map automatically adds the system when you've visited it, and allows you to send that data to other people; truly adding to idea of exploring the uncharted space.
The only thing I see wrong with needing a mobile base and capital ship; is that they both require large corps or alliances; locking out single players from the exploration quite significantly. One thing I think that could bridge that problem is requiring heavy CPU use to calculate the jump co-ordinates when a new star system has been spotted (spectrometer or similar?) so the more spare CPU you have available - the more chance of warping to a safe spot there is, and not finding yourself falling into a star (meaning capitals would be almost dead-on each time, and smaller ships would still have a chance).
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Tribunia
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Posted - 2010.07.11 12:24:00 -
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Edited by: Tribunia on 11/07/2010 12:25:15
Originally by: James Vayne Ungated Wormhole space is that way ------------->
Originally by: Ninetails o'Cat We could have it accessible by wormholes or something, how cool would that be?
I dont understand why you fail to see the difference, but apprantly you both do.
How did the beings who initially colonized New Eden get to all the stars in it before there were Star Gates hooked up everywwhere? :P
When CCP introduced WH space it was a real disappointment to me as I had hoped for an implementation of adding new space to New Eden in such a way as I m envisioning in this topic.
Remember when CCP had the starry backdrop overlaid in space? I had been hoping for something like that, where the stars you saw on your local skybox was an actual system that you could reach if it was already hooked up the Stargate Network or if you would have access to a ship designed to travel to it directly through space which obviosuly would take a very long time.
The time frame for such expeditions to distant, non colonized star systems, I imagine to be much like the skill training system, where you set out at a certain date and then arrive weeks or even months later, depending on how far off the system is and what size/model/make your expedition ship has.
When you arrive, you deploy a jumpbridge node which you then can use to start bringing in outpost construction materials, POS parts or whatever takes your fancy.
If an enemy wants to attack your system, they have either got to infiltrate your corporation to gain access to the JB node pasword (dont know if jumpbridges uses standings to let pilots through) OR to mount an expeditionary assault force to get to you in much the same way as you yourself got to the system in the 1st place and then capture your jump bridge node or whatever the mechanics could be.
To continnue out towards the great unknown, rins and repeat until you have your very own little pocket of ungated space.
There should be NO way of incorporating these systems into the already existing concord stargate networks.
Oh, and dont forget to refuel your JB nodes - if they run dry and theres none on the other side to refuel them ... it s back to square one to get access to that system again. :D
Going trhough a wormhole have always seemed a silly notion to me and should ONLY be and exotic event possible to stumble upon every once in a while in a mission or somesuch. NOT part of the effort of adding new star systems.
Well, there it is.
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James Vayne
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Posted - 2010.07.11 13:51:00 -
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Originally by: Tribunia Edited by: Tribunia on 11/07/2010 12:25:15
Originally by: James Vayne Ungated Wormhole space is that way ------------->
Originally by: Ninetails o'Cat
How did the beings who initially colonized New Eden get to all the stars in it before there were Star Gates hooked up everywwhere? :P
Using superawesome Terran technology that we lost during the Dark Ages. Using a wormhole Gerator (see EVE gate). Or by generating Cynosural fields at regular intervals to jump without a gate across the rout of their exodus.
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wiersma
Caldari Exo corporation
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Posted - 2010.07.11 16:54:00 -
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Very cool idea. but it needs to be worked out. recently ccp removed all BM and prevented the making of them outside 10AU of any system.. this would be problematic.
Like deep deep deep space scanner probes on their way for weeks and finaly finding a system where you can warp too. that would mean even more weeks of warp. until you reach it.
Some sort of special warpgate must be invented and hauled there so not only titans and other insanely expensive things can go there.
+1 ================================================ Mining is the extraction of valuable minerals or other geological materials from SPACE... :-P |
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Psihius
Caldari Anarchist Dawn U N K N O W N
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Posted - 2010.07.11 22:12:00 -
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Edited by: Psihius on 11/07/2010 22:13:06 Edited by: Psihius on 11/07/2010 22:12:36 You forgetting this: http://www.eveonline.com/background/jump/jump_05.asp The last paragraph. Read carefully.
Busted, move on!
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Tribunia
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Posted - 2010.07.12 03:56:00 -
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Originally by: Psihius Edited by: Psihius on 11/07/2010 22:13:06 Edited by: Psihius on 11/07/2010 22:12:36 You forgetting this: http://www.eveonline.com/background/jump/jump_05.asp The last paragraph. Read carefully.
Busted, move on!
Oh, I had no idea about that obviously but still it leaves the situation at much the same state.
The concept of an explorer ship could just as well be exchanged for the type of jump drive described in the backstory, having the player initiate destination scan lasting for everything to a week to a day or two depending on skill before he can initiate a jump to the destination system. Once there, a traditional JB can be errected to allow for easy access.
However, the backstory doest say if it can be done with any precision tho. You sure you can pick and chose your destination? Reading through it it gives the impression of that the procedure more or less returns a random result? Hm.
Quote: They send out a constant barrage of high frequency neutron rays, based on the flat-space principle of trans-relativistic physics, through infinitesimal cosmic strings to scout out the destination system. This survey can last for several days before enough data is gathered to allow the ship to create a wormhole (through a resonance node of course) to the destination system.
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wiersma
Caldari Exo corporation
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Posted - 2010.07.12 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: Psihius Edited by: Psihius on 11/07/2010 22:13:06 Edited by: Psihius on 11/07/2010 22:12:36 You forgetting this: http://www.eveonline.com/background/jump/jump_05.asp The last paragraph. Read carefully.
Busted, move on!
Even better, then we just need CCP to put a ship on the market that just does that. ================================================ Mining is the extraction of valuable minerals or other geological materials from SPACE... :-P |
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