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cyndrogen
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Posted - 2010.07.11 00:04:00 -
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Edited by: cyndrogen on 11/07/2010 00:07:23 The latest expansion of EVE is about as foreign to a space combat game as anything deployed before. Not only is it not exciting it actually ruins the game experience and is just not good enough for the promise of exciting game play. It's actually the exact opposite, does CCP even realize they are introducing new features which have nothing to do with space combat?
Where is the focus of eve? Where are the epic battles that were creafted for the trailers?
I'm looking at this video and honestly I have to say I'm more interested in this then Pi or anything else that has been recently deployed to the eve universe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fasgqDtnbow
It sucks that eve which has been around for years now, feels like a dated engine. I really hope this video wakes up the development team out of their DUST 514 lul.
Eve is about space combat and giant space battles only possible in an mmo,if I want to play around with planetary structures I'll play Sim City and other fully developed games.
Guy listen up focus on the space combat and get your eye back on the ball or lose members. I'm not excited about eve because I don't see anything exciting being released anytime soon.
I don't give a **** about walking in stations if I want to walk in a station I'll play Dead Space or Mass Effect 2.
CCP you are fumbling the space combat action MMO big time. I'm posting this because I want to see more development with the space combat engine and have that working better then what we currently have in game. Focus on what eve is best at PVP and space combat and put Pi on the back burner.
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Yuki Kulotsuki
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Posted - 2010.07.11 00:13:00 -
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Confirming that the devs never wanted a sci-fi game that involved walking around avatars, plantside interactions or atmospheric flight. They only wanted everything to be flying in space forever and always. Torfi told me so.
Originally by: CCP Lemur THIS IS GOD: ... IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE REQUESTS I'M AVAILABLE SUNDAY FROM 10:30 TO 12:00 TO RECEIVE YOUR PRAYERS.
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Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network Dignitas.
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Posted - 2010.07.11 00:14:00 -
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Originally by: cyndrogen The latest expansion of EVE is about as foreign to a space combat game as anything deployed before. Not only is it not exciting it actually ruins the game experience and is just not good enough for the promise of exciting game play. It's actually the exact opposite, does CCP even realize they are introducing new features which have nothing to do with space combat?
Maybe since practically all expansions until Dominion had to do with combat? If you use a bit of the gray matter, it might occur to you that Tyrannis and PI is part 1 in a bigger circle to close, THAT ULTIMATELY HAS TO DO WITH COMBAT. It's part 1 of the framework for DUST 514. And hey. Bonus this time for all industrialists among us, which really isn't so bad considering the fact that all other expansions were mostly about PVP.
Item DB | Sigs
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Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2010.07.11 00:19:00 -
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Im sorry, but EVE online is more than just your common spaceship combat simulator. Its a sandbox space universe where there are planets, science and research, mining and industry plus more!
Planetary interaction expands mining and industry to involve planets. Its resources will make it possible to create items where earlier only where available by NPCs. In time all parts of production will be playerbased. And the day Incarna hits it broadens the way we interact in the game. It is all about living in a sandbox. And no, its not just about combat pvp. Faster you understand that, faster you can grasp the ingeniuity and complexity of this game.
Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL. |
cyndrogen
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Posted - 2010.07.11 00:22:00 -
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Keep dreaming... one day I will have a giant space combat SCIFI battle and it will be awesome. I'm amazed at how many people simply accept this crap and don't look at the actual features which were released and are available now.
Imagine if I said hey CCP I'll pay you your monthly fee when I have more money in the bank OK but let me play for free for now. Think that would fly? Oh but I promise in the future to give you a big lump sum of money, wink.
Utter rubbish.
Originally by: Dan O'Connor
Originally by: cyndrogen The latest expansion of EVE is about as foreign to a space combat game as anything deployed before. Not only is it not exciting it actually ruins the game experience and is just not good enough for the promise of exciting game play. It's actually the exact opposite, does CCP even realize they are introducing new features which have nothing to do with space combat?
Maybe since practically all expansions until Dominion had to do with combat? If you use a bit of the gray matter, it might occur to you that Tyrannis and PI is part 1 in a bigger circle to close, THAT ULTIMATELY HAS TO DO WITH COMBAT. It's part 1 of the framework for DUST 514. And hey. Bonus this time for all industrialists among us, which really isn't so bad considering the fact that all other expansions were mostly about PVP.
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Cozmik R5
Minmatar Chaosstorm Corporation Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium
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Posted - 2010.07.11 00:29:00 -
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The point of a sandbox game is to have no focus at all... and look, CCP is succeeding! ____________________
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Spades Slick
Caldari Rookies Academy Elite The Compass
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Posted - 2010.07.11 00:32:00 -
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Originally by: cyndrogen blah blah blah space combat
Yeah, EVE is all about space combat! Wait, hold on--
Oh, hi, Market, I didn't see you there! What's that, Industry wants a word with me? Listen, I know I've been giving you guys the cold shoulder but -- no, I'm NOT pretending you don't exist! I'm just.... pretending you aren't there -- oh, come on Market, don't be like that...
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My nose'omg
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Posted - 2010.07.11 00:34:00 -
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You know, you don't have to leave your ship.
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cyndrogen
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Posted - 2010.07.11 00:34:00 -
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Originally by: Cozmik R5 The point of a sandbox game is to have no focus at all... and look, CCP is succeeding!
Don't get me wrong, I think it's AWESOME to have a fully immersive universe where you can walk around, build, fly, dive whatever.
I'm a fan and I love eve online, LOVE IT, and I also want to help it get back to it;s roots which is combat. Yes I want the other features too but I really want to fly in a rifter with three or more squadrons and take out a mobile POS with mind blowing space combat graphics, fly by the seat of my pants action packed combat!
Fix the combat first, give us more after.
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Aldarica
Spinal Discipline
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Posted - 2010.07.11 00:35:00 -
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Edited by: Aldarica on 11/07/2010 00:36:26 OP, don't be so narrow minded. It's all about the variety of options and your personal taste: like you, one can prefer huge fleet fights. Or, he can enjoy small scale PvP. Or, spend most of his time mining, PvE'ing, trading, manufacturing... etc. There's no such thing as "best way to play EVE". It's a sandbox and as such is, or should be, so much more than plain old pew-pewing in space.
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Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2010.07.11 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: cyndrogen I'm amazed at how many people simply accept this crap and don't look at the actual features which were released and are available now.
This crap as you say is one of the only game I know about which have a steady rise in numbers of players 7 years after its launch. I have been here close to 5 of these years and, guess what? I am happy with this "crap" as you call it. And so are many others too it seems.
I have one advice if you dont like the game: find a different one. This game is not for everyone. Thats a honest thing. But stop trying to drag it into the mud. Just because you dont like it does not mean others dont like it.
Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL. |
Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2010.07.11 00:39:00 -
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When you get bored of JGE 1-2 months after release, we will still be here to say I told you so.
That guy in the video is hilarious. He says JGE is different from all other MMOs, instead of a boring kill x missions, my missions have you fly into a swarm of NPCs and make you kill x of them to progress to the next kill x chapter. Genius! - It's not "Play through a pre-set story, become stronger, do endgame". Gameplay is open ended, and you make your own story. Unless you're too afraid of 'pvp grief' to do anything relevant |
AlleyKat
Gallente The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2010.07.11 00:46:00 -
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In my opinion, EVE has not lost its focus. This game will always have room for PvP.
AK
PS: JGE is a very, very bad game and they might as well have called it 'SpaceGrind' because it really is the very definition of an instanced grindathon that is anti-pvp, anti-pirate, anti-grief, anti-risk....
EVE-ONLINE VIDEO-MAKING TUTORIALS |
Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2010.07.11 00:51:00 -
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Originally by: cyndrogen
I really want to fly in a rifter with three or more squadrons and take out a mobile POS with mind blowing space combat graphics, fly by the seat of my pants action packed combat!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Whew, I almost peed myself.
This is an MMO for Christ sake! You play it by clicking a target and then clicking your gun. Pretty ****ing deep combat immersion, hey?
What you are looking for is two aisles over on the Combat Flight Sim shelf.
Mr Epeen
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omgevenmoarfreemoniez
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Posted - 2010.07.11 01:12:00 -
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Why bother posting negative comments about CCP on this fanboi infested board. CCP can do no wrong in their eyes.
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SammyullJackson
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Posted - 2010.07.11 01:17:00 -
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Originally by: omgevenmoarfreemoniez Why bother posting negative comments about CCP on this fanboi infested board. CCP can do no wrong in their eyes.
lol
CLEARLY you don't read any of threads here... because pretty damned near all of them are bashing one mechanic, change, fix, or another.
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Aldarica
Spinal Discipline
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Posted - 2010.07.11 01:17:00 -
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Originally by: omgevenmoarfreemoniez Why bother posting negative comments about CCP on this fanboi infested board. CCP can do no wrong in their eyes.
At least OP could make a reference to some other upcoming title which is in same category as EVE, not that heavily instanced 3D space invaders crap.
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BrundleMeth
Caldari Temporal Mechanics
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Posted - 2010.07.11 01:38:00 -
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Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker I have one advice if you dont like the game: find a different one. This game is not for everyone. Thats a honest thing. But stop trying to drag it into the mud. Just because you dont like it does not mean others dont like it.
This exactly...
Frankly the Developers have far more patience here than I do. If I was providing a paid service and people were constantly badgering me and berating me about my work I would simply say "If you don't like what we offer take your business (and whining) elsewhere.
Then I would tell them to eat **** and die...
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crom ralphfao
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Posted - 2010.07.11 01:44:00 -
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Edited by: crom ralphfao on 11/07/2010 01:46:54 i understand what the OP is saying; however it doesn't really make a whole lot of sense when you accept that the game must evolve in all areas, not just the one you are super excited about.
almost seems a little petulant.
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cyndrogen
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Posted - 2010.07.11 02:11:00 -
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Edited by: cyndrogen on 11/07/2010 02:11:43 I agree that the game should evolve and be a complete imersive experience, believe it or not this is not a CCP sucks I hate eve rant. I'm a fan, I pay for my account and I enjoy the game and various different styles of play eve has to offer. It's very in depth and has a lot of things to offer.
Do you think the combat system in eve is perfect? Do you think it doesn't need any improvement? I disagree I think there is a lot more that could be improved, from combat to seeing the inside of your ship, to better hud graphics which are more modern.
There is so much room for improvement so why is that a bad thing to suggest focusing on improving what eve does best?
I also enjoy manufacturing and other non combat activities, eve has so much more to offer then pew pew but it also is lacking in many areas and the developers have spread their team thin.
Pi feels greatly unfinished, the ship models now look old compared to the new Scorpion model and overall the game could be better. Also I don't think that JGE graphics are good but I like what they are doing for combat and after seeing the video it made me think why doesn't eve have ships you can actually fly?
Originally by: crom ralphfao Edited by: crom ralphfao on 11/07/2010 01:46:54 i understand what the OP is saying; however it doesn't really make a whole lot of sense when you accept that the game must evolve in all areas, not just the one you are super excited about.
almost seems a little petulant.
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Mr SmartGuy
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Posted - 2010.07.11 02:23:00 -
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*checks the focus* Yup... all fine here.
EVE is more than just a space combat game, it's a game with a player run economy. If you don't already see the connection between EVE's unique economy and PI, maybe you'll find out when you grow up, stop crying on the forum and think about it a little.
The only problem with PvP atm. is lag and they are doing their best to fix it.
Again, your problem was? |
BrundleMeth
Caldari Temporal Mechanics
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Posted - 2010.07.11 02:23:00 -
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Originally by: cyndrogen There is so much room for improvement so why is that a bad thing to suggest focusing on improving what eve does best?
Because no one who should be listening is listening. CCP will do whatever they need to to make more money, that is all. But people will continue to come here and complain about changes that will never happen. Never...
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cyndrogen
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Posted - 2010.07.11 02:31:00 -
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It was not a problem, it was a suggestion.
What's there to see? That POS prices will rise due to manufactured fuel which will soon be only available through player manufactured goods? That people who can't afford to run POS will take them down eventually balancing out the demand for fuel?
What game do you think I play ?
Originally by: Mr SmartGuy *checks the focus* Yup... all fine here.
EVE is more than just a space combat game, it's a game with a player run economy. If you don't already see the connection between EVE's unique economy and PI, maybe you'll find out when you grow up, stop crying on the forum and think about it a little.
The only problem with PvP atm. is lag and they are doing their best to fix it.
Again, your problem was?
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Heretica Dukat
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Posted - 2010.07.11 04:07:00 -
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Originally by: BrundleMeth CCP will do whatever they need to to make more money, that is all.
You're totally right! CCP has proven time and time again they have no problem compromising their game for the sake of money! I mean just look at how much they charge for expansions! And all those stupid mounts and pets purchasable with real money! And that stupid premium for using the auction house on your iPhone! Don't even get me started at all the tshirts/steins/minatures/etc they keep spamming at us, with all those ads on their forums! It's pretty obvious they are just milking this cash-cow for all it's worth.
Oh, wait. Wrong game, wrong company.
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.07.11 04:13:00 -
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I've asked this before a few times and never get an answer, but I'll ask again just for the sake of reality...
What game do you play that has bigger battles than eve, or that does not lag, let alone both?
I have never even heard of one TBH, and Ive been gaming since the 70's and online gaming since the 90's. This is clearly a signature. |
Tezrha Jilani
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.07.11 06:11:00 -
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There are a lot of bad posts on General lately...
Has the Real-ID of Blizzard driven them here?!
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Kyusoath Orillian
Haters Gonna Hate
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Posted - 2010.07.11 06:23:00 -
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ccp fanboys come out in force!
some hilarious **** here.
if CCP took a dump in their mouths they would thank them and ask for more. and if they didn't they would thank them too as CCP can do no wrong.
i think within the last year CCP totally lost focus and is only interested in money. time to make ****ty rap videos , time to make connect the dots but no time to fix long standing well known bugs or simple balance changes.
keep pumping out the propaganda trailers, your fanboys love those.
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SammyullJackson
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Posted - 2010.07.11 06:47:00 -
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Originally by: Kyusoath Orillian ccp fanboys come out in force!
some hilarious **** here.
if CCP took a dump in their mouths they would thank them and ask for more. and if they didn't they would thank them too as CCP can do no wrong.
i think within the last year CCP totally lost focus and is only interested in money. time to make ****ty rap videos , time to make connect the dots but no time to fix long standing well known bugs or simple balance changes.
keep pumping out the propaganda trailers, your fanboys love those.
Let me guess... hardcore 1337 mast3r s00p3r PVP-expert?
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mechtech
SRS Industries SRS.
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Posted - 2010.07.11 06:48:00 -
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"The latest expansion of EVE is about as foreign to a space combat game as anything deployed before."
Just FYI, Eve-Online was not originally envisioned as a space combat game, but rather as a sci-fi simulator. Walking in stations, planetary interaction, these were all things that CCP wanted to do before the game was even released. Of course the main focus will always revolve around space combat, but the game will continue to become more and more fleshed out and diversified as time goes on.
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cyndrogen
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Posted - 2010.07.11 08:03:00 -
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Great to hear it will soon be fleshed out, I will also pay a monthly fee when it's all fleshed out! Thanks for that, so is it OK if I send payment soon, you know I have to flesh my wallet out and stuff....
or better yet I'll take some photos of my cash and send that instead...
CCP is not delivering the product they promised and that my friend is false advertising.
The butterfly effect showed amazing visuals and exciting space combat, so where is that exactly?
What kills me is that JGE, a game which a year ago looked like ****, is actually looking a lot more promising then eve, it makes me want to cry.
Originally by: mechtech "The latest expansion of EVE is about as foreign to a space combat game as anything deployed before."
Just FYI, Eve-Online was not originally envisioned as a space combat game, but rather as a sci-fi simulator. Walking in stations, planetary interaction, these were all things that CCP wanted to do before the game was even released. Of course the main focus will always revolve around space combat, but the game will continue to become more and more fleshed out and diversified as time goes on.
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