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Brka
H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.15 01:43:00 -
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Edited by: Brka on 15/07/2010 01:43:15 Being this is my first eve forums post in nearly 2.5 years I will say this. Your incentives don't make me want to take time out of my busy schedule. I rarely play any more and the lag monster in fleet fights is one of the reasons. Skill points, special ships, a battleship each. Make it worth it to get on there.
1 free ship or 25k sp or 50k sp or something tangible and you'll get 1000 people on there.
Just an idea.
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ptach
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Posted - 2010.07.15 01:53:00 -
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Originally by: Yakumo Smith hmmm sounds like you'd positively "hate" to be "forced" to dress up as a lady going by the options.
LOL, I double that (((-: AND go for the Erotic Dancer. We will see pics on Facebook and here.
Hope u win
Ptach
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Celebris Nexterra
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Posted - 2010.07.15 02:04:00 -
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Ooh, I did have a question, though: how are we supposed to submit our logserver reports/DXdiag files after the mass test?
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terra773
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Posted - 2010.07.15 02:09:00 -
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It's a little appalling to see read the comments. Tanis is trying to help the game by increasing Mass testing turnout, and as a bonus, we get to watch him make a fool of himself. Instead of saying, "Hell yeah, I'll be there! Best have that kilt ready Tanis", we vindicate him, claim the tests have no real purpose, and accuse CCP of complete and total incompetence. This is the kind of bull**** the whiny ******ed children over at WoW do. Finding and killing the lag monster should be priority, in/out of game reward or not. I don't agree with constantly rolling out new content versus fixing the content with issues, but don't want to rehash anything already said. To those who claim that these tests don't help, how does a few hundred player fleet accessing the server en-mass not test the load on the server?
To sum it up, quit yer *****in, man up, and get your ass on Sisi!
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Hellz Hitman
Caldari No-Mercy
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Posted - 2010.07.15 02:43:00 -
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You all say you want the lag fixed? Then You get your reward merely by taking part in the test. Should be fairly obvious. And everyone else gets their reward the same way. No-Mercy |
Clb
The Intersect
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Posted - 2010.07.15 02:46:00 -
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I was slightly interested, and then I seen that all the tests are scheduled for weekdays.
Claim that you get a similar turnout regardless but that's 3 accounts that won't be showing up.
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2010.07.15 03:47:00 -
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Edited by: Tres Farmer on 15/07/2010 03:51:18 Edited by: Tres Farmer on 15/07/2010 03:47:36
Originally by: CCP Tanis We'll also accept suggestions for what else I could do if I lose this wager, from you fine folks.
I admit, the cross-dressing and kilt-wearing aren't quite enough options for my liking either. But that's what you get when you ask a bunch of overworked GMs for ideas :p. So, what can you think of that's better, and can you "bring it"?.
As the last note from CCP practically said, that we'll have to wait for polishing/refining of content for another 18 months I plead you to NOT TO WASTE THIS ONE DAY YOU GOT FOR THIS for utter crap like cross dressing or answering petitions.
If you can do one thing and it fits into this time frame, then please have a look at rockets, change their values in your SQL database by whatever it needs (or whatever you think doesn't screws up balance too much) to make them a bit more decent and get this through for deployment with the next little patch. This would get some of us off your back and probably show all the others that you really take this somewhat seriously. We had enough bad jokes already and I'm not really into looking at guys dressed as girls. Please!
TL;DR: I'm voting with 2 accounts for rocket mini-fix
PS: I'm 100% against any sweets for those who show up, especially when it affects TQ.. Sisi isn't known for stability in this kind of issues and bad luck sucks.. give all players something worth, ie some kind of little fix to restore faith. They can even contain some pics of you sitting on your desk with excel open and screwing around with numbers or fighting the management getting this deployed in the name of the players..
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SammyullJackson
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Posted - 2010.07.15 03:52:00 -
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Originally by: Clb I was slightly interested, and then I seen that all the tests are scheduled for weekdays.
Claim that you get a similar turnout regardless but that's 3 accounts that won't be showing up.
Despite the thread in the Test Forum Feedback section where they say "we've noticed turnout isn't much better on weekends, so we will test on weekdays", you say something like this.
Sure, yeah, okay.
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Riaqu
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Posted - 2010.07.15 03:55:00 -
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Wow, there is definitely something wrong with these forums. Some people are just compulsive in their criticism and whining.
There are some things that worry me as well about CCP policy, but please, this thread (or the OP at least) is just a funny and light-hearted way to activate players in helping out to improve the game, so please stop all the whining already!
I personally would like to see much more interaction with CCP employees on these forums (this thread and the one on whether they actually play the game are great, in my opinion), and the ridiculously negative reactions from some posters here are not exactly helpful.
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DJ Obsidian
New Eden Technical Institutes
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Posted - 2010.07.15 04:04:00 -
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Guys seriously most of you sound like little whiny w.o.w. players.
Seriously just get ur ass on the test server, stop ur *****ing and follow instructions, you know kinda like a fleet up. Tanis is your FC and the target is the lag monster so sit down shut the **** up and bring a fleet ship. Seriously if you act like this in your fleet ops, you deserver to lose your ship to lag.
OF course if any of you bothered to read my post from earlier, Tanis is leading a team of devs trying to find and fix the lag, now this team is anywhwere from 5-10 people. This is 5-10 people who could be fixing a back log of changes but are trying to fix the lag first.
Lag fix > your whiney list of rockets and assult frigs and what ever else you are whining about.
When the lag is fixed then his team will probably move on to something new like, i dont know anything else you all whine about. SO as i said sit down shut your mouth and just get on the test server.
THE FASTER YOU ALL QUIT UR *****ING AND HELP OUT THE FASTER WE CAN GET THINGS FIXED! TO DO THIS WE NEED 500+ PEOPLE HELPING OUT!
watching the market and doing .01 isk transactions, plexing, and flexing ur epeen with hot drops can all wait for 2 hours. 2 hours isnt going to cause you to lose all of your space.
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Kinetic Force
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Posted - 2010.07.15 04:07:00 -
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Originally by: Riaqu Wow, there is definitely something wrong with these forums. Some people are just compulsive in their criticism and whining.
There are some things that worry me as well about CCP policy, but please, this thread (or the OP at least) is just a funny and light-hearted way to activate players in helping out to improve the game, so please stop all the whining already!
I personally would like to see much more interaction with CCP employees on these forums (this thread and the one on whether they actually play the game are great, in my opinion), and the ridiculously negative reactions from some posters here are not exactly helpful.
Im gonna have to agree here, Person after person keeps saying they want CCP to take a stronger presence on the forums and such, and they start doing so and get flamed, you guys are getting out of control. Stop complaining and help CCP see where they are going wrong. Read the damn thread. Read the fact that CCP needs more people, and are trying to be light hearted with it, tryin to be a bit more fun with it to get people to give them the help they need!
We should be willing to do this for free, shouldnt have to be bribed, though I do admit the Kilt + War paint would be hot lawls.
Please. Do not take this game down the route of WoW. The players here are not acting like the players in game. You are acting like a bunch of spoiled kids. Just cool it. Help fix the problem instead of complaining about it
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tehleetchick
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Posted - 2010.07.15 04:15:00 -
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I remember couple of years back when on the test server u gave everyone all skills to level 5. the test server was that packed u were waiting hour plus to log into to it. and the lag was bs cause of everyone in titans and motherships. why dont u do this again every man, woman,child and there alts would be on it flying caps ships and that would give u the lag ur are after!!! i am sure u be able to test all day with a event like this as it was such a huge event last time.
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2010.07.15 04:39:00 -
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Edited by: Tres Farmer on 15/07/2010 04:40:32
Originally by: tehleetchick I remember couple of years back when on the test server u gave everyone all skills to level 5. the test server was that packed u were waiting hour plus to log into to it. and the lag was bs cause of everyone in titans and motherships. why dont u do this again every man, woman,child and there alts would be on it flying caps ships and that would give u the lag ur are after!!! i am sure u be able to test all day with a event like this as it was such a huge event last time.
CCP doesn't need a bunch of wild, headless, trigger happy idiots on Sisi shooting and podding the hell out of everything that undocks in FD - cause that happened the last time CCP did give all lvl5 skills. CCP wants cool pilots who can follow orders and behave in a way they need for getting a clue what happens under the hood by triggering responses from the server.
That's why they especially address alliances to show up, cause those guys are the ones who are affected the most, contrary to your 0-8-15 carebear.
@CCP Tanis, did you ever get a response from those affected the most, ie null sec alliances? Should be easy for them to bring 500+.. what are their reasons not to show up for 2 hours? Letting down their pants on TQ? Can't you organize some kind of combined efforts from them? Like every space holding alliance brings x% of pilots to the test and there is a cease fire time frame for their space if they bring xyz% or something similar.. There must be some workaround for this, as those are the pilots you're looking for. This kind of organization/commitment works for Alliance Tournaments after all..
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BeanBagKing
Ch3mic4l Warfare STR8NGE BREW
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Posted - 2010.07.15 04:48:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Veritas In order to do that, we need to run experiments. We can either get players' help and do them on Sisi, or we can break out the mad scientist gear and poke at TQ while you're fighting there.
I would personally prefer to keep experiments on the test server. I hope you'd agree.
Personally I say break out the mad scientist gear. Things may be a -little- worse in the short term (during the tests/fights), but from the player perspective they're already pretty damn bad! However, I think this kind of testing would yield MUCH better results and would be great for the games long term.
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a55mu11e7
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Posted - 2010.07.15 04:57:00 -
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What about another all lvl 5? |
EdFromHumanResources
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.15 05:09:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Veritas In order to do that, we need to run experiments. We can either get players' help and do them on Sisi, or we can break out the mad scientist gear and poke at TQ while you're fighting there.
I would personally prefer to keep experiments on the test server. I hope you'd agree.
Considering a fleet fight on sisi is nothing like a fleet fight on TQ I say break out the gear you probably dont have. The reason a lot of 0.0 pilots don't show up to the "mass testing" is because you don't even bother to simulate a real fight, you just have people jump into a system then sit on a gate shooting eachother until you call time out. It's a waste of our time to pretend that's how fights go. Some of the worst lag I ever experience comes from jump bridging into a fight, not jumping through a gate. Why does there seem to be a massive difference in load time for jump bridging or going through a gate? Do you even realize there's a difference? Do the people who set these up actively play Eve and do they join the fleets they are trying to mirror these after?
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Celia Therone
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Posted - 2010.07.15 05:17:00 -
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How about offering people x learning points if they show up for mass testing?
It takes time and hassle to install the test client and time to turn up to, and participate in, mass testing. Throw a carrot in front of people and they'll be much more likely to invest that time.
Seeing you in a dress might be amusing but, really, I don't think seeing guys in dresses motivates a very large proportion of the populace.
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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2010.07.15 05:17:00 -
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Originally by: SammyullJackson
Originally by: Iazma Moroi Edited by: Iazma Moroi on 14/07/2010 19:44:23 umad Tanis?
Originally by: CCP Tanis ...we're still not quite happy with the player turnout to these events...
Maybe because there has been no significant (if any) result of these tests.
And that might be because they don't get enough participants to test whatever changes they made in an effective manner to release on TQ.
And so the circle is completed...
I say that everyone here just participate in this one. Just one, to begin with. If CCP gets their act together and posts a devblog or posts some sort of feedback saying "thanks to the turnout, we were able to successfully test such and such change in the coding", that should show everyone that these tests have a purpose.
If you don't show up, well, the pot thought it was pretty clever to call the kettle black.
Time and again during the tests we were told "we're getting great data", "that's what we wanted to see".
The tests were always lagging to hell and back. If they cannot see it with 300 people how will they see it with 500? Because 3 minutes of loading grid is not long enough? It has to be 7 so they can detect and analyze it?
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DJ Obsidian
New Eden Technical Institutes
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Posted - 2010.07.15 05:32:00 -
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Originally by: EdFromHumanResources [
Some of the worst lag I ever experience comes from jump bridging into a fight, not jumping through a gate. Why does there seem to be a massive difference in load time for jump bridging or going through a gate? Do you even realize there's a difference?
That was one of the most intelligent things posted then it got dumb after that. Good Idea though. During the mass test a thing to check during a mass test, instead of jumping into the system by way of gates, have 3 fleets - 1 defend, 1 attack, and 1 bridge/hotdrop in.
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Vonlutt
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.07.15 05:39:00 -
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Edited by: Vonlutt on 15/07/2010 05:43:28 Edited by: Vonlutt on 15/07/2010 05:41:22 I'd seriously do it if it were easier to participate in, but downloading a new client and making a new user and what not... Bleah.
And in all seriousness... Why not just ask a few alliances to meet in a system and duke it out with the promise of replacing all losses? That would be by far the easiest, really. ! |
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Ascendic
Brotherhood of Suicidal Priests R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.07.15 05:51:00 -
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Originally by: Snoodley Will you whiny little candy asses stfu for once..! If the game sucks so much then leave it to the rest of us... We will all be fine! I love this game and appreciate the effort that is put in to make it better... If you think your so smart get off your lazy asses and code something better... Otherwise blow it out your **** !
If we left then the six of you tools would not be able to support the servers and eve would close so in effect you lose. So how about YOU go blow it out YOUR ass instead?
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2010.07.15 06:47:00 -
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Ok so is the mailing list "Mass Testing Info" (stated in the other thread) or "mass-testing info" stated in this thread?
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Jim Luc
Caldari Rule of Five Lucky Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.07.15 07:20:00 -
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If I get a freebie then I would definitely be there, but time is money... As they say
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Sturmwolke
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Posted - 2010.07.15 07:21:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba Ok so is the mailing list "Mass Testing Info" (stated in the other thread) or "mass-testing info" stated in this thread? /c
It's a stealth Mass Testing event, so the mailing list was bypassed. You have the option to stealthly attend the event.
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T'Amber
www.shipsofeve.com
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Posted - 2010.07.15 07:47:00 -
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THE BET My suggestion is that if 500+ people turn up that you have to dress up as an exotic dancer wearing heels and fishnets with pink hair and then make a channel called "Ask CCP Tanis" which you must attend to for 24hours. This channel must be published someone where for maximum exposure.
You will then go onto chat roulette and everytime you see a ***** you must answer one question in your channel from one random angry vet - to the best of your ability.
Every time you see bewbs you may have a 10minute break.
-T'amber
[SoE:at8] Win the 1st Publicly available Adrestia and Utu - rare ships
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Slavebabe
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Posted - 2010.07.15 08:09:00 -
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May a group of better vets hotdrop the test with 50+ capitals? May we bridge 100+ ships to the middle of the fight? Can we drop 20+ bombs to the bubbled RR armor HAC gang? Are we going to be banned from test server doing so in you test? We only want to provide relevant test information as close to live TQ as possible.
Tanis, you see after all these months we don't know a tiny bit how these data was used to fix the server side lag.
How many participants were in your tests so far (sum across all your tests)? 5000+? How many man-hours were given freely because of the love of this game so you can have sterile data? tens of thousand? How many more test do you need to run? dozens? What is the ETA for the next fix? 1 month? 6 months? 18-24 months?
Please don't get me wrong here... but the last dev blog about the client side lag fixes, were not really motivational to participate in these tests. Players spending their free time wold like to see some love. Your offer is funny and stuff, but either give some TQ incentives or write us a summary on how this is helping. Simply stating it helps much doesn't really qualify as a summary, you know.
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Gavjack Bunk
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Posted - 2010.07.15 08:15:00 -
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Is it 1 activity per 500 people? So if you get 1000 people you have to do two of them? -- On planets... nobody can see you macro mining... |
Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.07.15 08:24:00 -
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Originally by: T'Amber THE BET My suggestion is that if 500+ people turn up that you have to dress up as an exotic dancer wearing heels and fishnets with pink hair and then make a channel called "Ask CCP Tanis" which you must attend to for 24hours. This channel must be published someone where for maximum exposure.
You will then go onto chat roulette and everytime you see a ***** you must answer one question in your channel from one random angry vet - to the best of your ability.
Every time you see bewbs you may have a 10minute break.
-T'amber
So you want him to cross-dress, go on Chat Roulette, and answer questions from bitter vets? I think that's the Sixth Circle of Hell.
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gumble85
Amarr AUS Corporation United Front Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.15 08:34:00 -
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I am more swinging to dress up as an Exotic Dancer at the next staff meeting, but i am willing to substitute that for..... If you hire more gm's and programmers for the eve player base. Not like there is a shortage of programmers and possible gm's. We need more things fixed and hiring is and testing from the player base is the only way to fix it. Your gm's are tired well hire more. Last i heard 25k paid accounts covers the cost of everything. Prolly 30-40k now, but use our money correctly on upgrades and hiring more staff and you'll have a happier player base imo.
I will join in if available. Hope to see some of you there.
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Charlemeign
BESTIAL CARNAGE Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.07.15 08:36:00 -
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Edited by: Charlemeign on 15/07/2010 08:36:30 Wow, another Dev doing something totally irrelevant to to make the enormous amount of problems with this game seem less irrelevant. I would have nev..
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