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Ben Derindar
Dirty Deeds Corp.
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Posted - 2010.07.19 05:39:00 -
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I'm actually not that big on awarding skill points for turning up to planned events. Keep them as compensation for unplanned events such as the extended DT that happened recently. Perhaps issue some medals instead?
As far as the ease of getting on to Sisi is concerned, bring back the server drop-down menu at the login prompt, like it was in the days of Chaos. Then as part of the login process, have the client compare versions between the target server and itself and refuse anything that doesn't match. We'd still need two installs of course, but no more faffing around with command line parameters every time the test server undergoes a config change itself.
Personally I could write off my own non-participation to bitter vet syndrome, but that'd be too easy. The fact that they're typically held at like 5am my time doesn't help much either.
/Ben
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occyxxx
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Posted - 2010.07.19 07:08:00 -
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Edited by: occyxxx on 19/07/2010 07:09:17
Originally by: Ben Derindar I'm actually not that big on awarding skill points for turning up to planned events. Keep them as compensation for unplanned events such as the extended DT that happened recently. Perhaps issue some medals instead?
Award medals or something nerdy and rely on the empire carebears to rock up and do the fleet stuff... If you want 0.0 alliances on server in mass the reward needs to be worth it because atm the biggest problem is the feeling around the place is that even if 0.0 alliances did "cowboy up" and help at the mass testings ccp still wouldn't/couldn't fix the problems...there is no confidence in the dev's or the company anymore. |
Abdiel Kavash
Caldari Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.07.19 08:59:00 -
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Originally by: occyxxx Edited by: occyxxx on 19/07/2010 07:09:17
Originally by: Ben Derindar I'm actually not that big on awarding skill points for turning up to planned events. Keep them as compensation for unplanned events such as the extended DT that happened recently. Perhaps issue some medals instead?
Award medals or something nerdy and rely on the empire carebears to rock up and do the fleet stuff... If you want 0.0 alliances on server in mass the reward needs to be worth it because atm the biggest problem is the feeling around the place is that even if 0.0 alliances did "cowboy up" and help at the mass testings ccp still wouldn't/couldn't fix the problems...there is no confidence in the dev's or the company anymore.
To be honest, this pretty much sums it up completely. These tests have been going on for more than half a year now, and there are no really visible improvements. If anything, the situation is slowly getting even worse. You can only keep players interested by "we are working on it" for so long. Unless the players see visible improvements as a result of these tests, they will soon deem it not worth their time.
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Ehris Bok
United Kings R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.07.19 12:47:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba How about Tanis having to take a swim in the harbor outside the CCP office wearing a mankini?
^^ OMG yes this
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.07.19 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: Ehris Bok
Originally by: Chribba How about Tanis having to take a swim in the harbor outside the CCP office wearing a mankini?
^^ OMG yes this
After he's had a Brazillian waxing. : > Fix Rockets in '08 '09 2010 2011 2012?! |
Fenris Ulfur
Bio Material Inc
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Posted - 2010.07.19 16:04:00 -
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Sadly I wont be able to attend the first one [EYJAR!!!] but I'll join the other two --------------------------------------------------------------------- "But rather than that you question my courage, let someone put his hand in my mouth as a pledge that this is done in good faith" |
Rexthor Hammerfists
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.07.19 18:49:00 -
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Nice idea, im for the answering petitions all day if you atleast add a link to the pic in the answers ;)
4 accs to the test if i got the time. -
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Br41n
Amarr Pinky and the Brain corp
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Posted - 2010.07.20 13:41:00 -
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Edited by: Br41n on 20/07/2010 13:42:35 Tanis, if you would dance as an exotic dancer for 30 minutes in front of a streaming webcam we can talk.
Another option, walk around all day in the office wearing this: Lovely
And we want pics ofcourse ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pinky: Gee, Brain. What are we going to do tonight?
Brain: The same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to take over the world. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
Dopekitten
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Posted - 2010.07.20 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Tanis Don't like these options? Suggest your own! The top player-suggestion which we could actually do will be added to the choices when it goes to a vote
Fix rockets.
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Matalino
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Posted - 2010.07.20 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: mechtech
Originally by: Mandogg Sorry TL;DR
Give the first 500 people who log on 100k sp and everyone else 50k if they attend the mass testing. The SP wont cost CCP anything plus it will solve their needs of trying to get people on. I bet we can crash that server to. Hell I bet if the testing started at 2:30 in the morning people would set their alarm clocks just so that they wont miss it, not to mention the amount of ALTs that they would log in with as well.
mis dos centavos....
Skill points should never be acquirable through in game or out of game means like this (refunds for uber downtimes are fine). This would be a major shift of Eve as a whole, and if it were to ever happen there would need to be round table discussions at CCP and dev blogs. This would be a huge change that would need to be planned extensively (how else to acquire SP).
Agreed: Skill points on TQ should never be acquirable through in game or out of game means like this.
However, giving skills points on Sisi would be cool. Don't muck around with something tiny like 100k. Instead, at the end of each test, give everyone who participated 10mil skill points on Sisi. It would only last until the next mirror and would obviously have no impact on TQ, but it could create a positive reinforcement on fleet test participation. Each time a player attends a test, he/she will have nice chunk of new skill points for the next test.
Originally by: Krecian I suggest that not only Tanis, but several other members of the staff make cardboard cutouts of their favorite spaceships, wear said cutouts to a local shopping center, and run around the shopping center making load "pew pew" noises at each other
Otherwise, this sounds like the best suggestion so far. They also need to use laser pointers to shoot each other.
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Dimdi
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Posted - 2010.07.21 10:59:00 -
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:D
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Isaac Apylon
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2010.07.21 18:19:00 -
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Forget public humiliation, fix rockets, so that my poor merlins/breachers/khanid ships can actually use them as primary weapon systems without being complete ****mobiles. Your offer is appreciated, but a minor fix to one thing or another would be infinitely better.
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Ressiv
Cooperative Freelance Navigators Association
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Posted - 2010.07.21 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: Abdiel Kavash These tests have been going on for more than half a year now, and there are no really visible improvements. If anything, the situation is slowly getting even worse. You can only keep players interested by "we are working on it" for so long. Unless the players see visible improvements as a result of these tests, they will soon deem it not worth their time.
Funny comment ... reminds me of a song and a current trent in how people behave ..
The song is: Linkage The trent is: I'm too bussy with my own **** to be bothered with yours. l8er
Why the hell do you think this bet is up ? Cuz CCP Tanis loves making an ass out of himself ? Or in an attempt to get more of us on the test for the mass test, as up till now, they apparantly didnt get enough people online to do meaningfull testing..
========================== Nothing is true, everything is permitted. ========================== |
Bacchanalian
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2010.07.22 08:05:00 -
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Edited by: Bacchanalian on 22/07/2010 08:05:06
Originally by: Faffywaffy As a software developer, my suspicion is that the mass tests are nothing more than an attempt by the devs to show that they are doing something to fix the lag. The reality is, most likely, that the code is such a mess that they have lost any hope of understanding, much less being able to fix, it. This is consistent with the focus on developing new features unrelated to old (uncomprehensible) code, instead of trying to fix issues in it.
Statements that players stress the server in unique ways would have been plausible if large-scale fights only lagged out occasionally. When every single fight with 500 or more players is laggy as to be near-unusable, when nodes with 1000 players crash as a rule rather than the exception, reproducing the issue requires no participation from real players, and no development of "sentient AI".
Step A: Place 500 ships on a gate grid and have 500 more attempt to jump in. Step B: Profile/debug until every jumping ship loads grid within a reasonable time.
Similarly simple scenarios could be devised to profile other manifestations of lag.
Not to mention it's generally not a mystery to CCP when large fleet battles are going to occur now that you can petition to reinforce nodes. One would think they could have a couple people around to watch what happens.
____________________ GM Sunshine > oops Neurotica > Hate to see a GM in your gang say 'oops'
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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2010.07.22 08:19:00 -
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Edited by: Ban Doga on 22/07/2010 08:23:41
Originally by: Ressiv
Originally by: Abdiel Kavash These tests have been going on for more than half a year now, and there are no really visible improvements. If anything, the situation is slowly getting even worse. You can only keep players interested by "we are working on it" for so long. Unless the players see visible improvements as a result of these tests, they will soon deem it not worth their time.
Funny comment ... reminds me of a song and a current trent in how people behave ..
The song is: Linkage The trent is: I'm too bussy with my own **** to be bothered with yours. l8er
Why the hell do you think this bet is up ? Cuz CCP Tanis loves making an ass out of himself ? Or in an attempt to get more of us on the test for the mass test, as up till now, they apparantly didnt get enough people online to do meaningfull testing..
Every test I joined was lagging to hell and back.
That is a perfectly problematic situation (firing 15 rounds in 20 minutes with a RoF of 4 seconds is definitely wrong) that can be worked on. Even IF 200 additional players would show more / other problems, there is something that can be worked on and improved. But you don't see any improvements on that, instead you hear statements about DEVs thinking module lag is an urban myth.
And if you look at the number of players that participanted (here) you will see that - in the beginning - there were usually well over 300 people, sometimes even 500, there. Those are the numbers Tanis asked for.
It's only recently that the number of participant players is decreasing. Who's wondering why?
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Veliria
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Posted - 2010.07.22 10:57:00 -
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Run through the halls of CCP's building shouting an issue picked by the player. When not running, shout the issue as well, atleast every few minutes.
I can only imagine the other CCPs watching Tanis running by screaming: "ROFLKETS ROFLKETS ROFLKETS ROFLKETS ROFLKETS..."
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CCP Tanis
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Posted - 2010.07.22 13:29:00 -
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Just a little bump/reminder that the first Mass-test that counts for this bet will be August 5th @ 20:00 GMT.
It's also worth noting here that we've started working with the CSM to explore options for increasing turnout, and making these test events more "worth your time" so to speak. I'll be honest and say these things take time, so please don't expect immediate results, but we've started talking about it and we're all very keen to find sustainable ways of making this whole mass-testing program work better for everyone involved.
____________________________ I break thingsÖ CCP Tanis - EVE Quality Assurance|EVE Live Team CCP Games |
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CCP Tanis
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Posted - 2010.07.22 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Veliria Run through the halls of CCP's building shouting an issue picked by the player. When not running, shout the issue as well, atleast every few minutes.
I can only imagine the other CCPs watching Tanis running by screaming: "ROFLKETS ROFLKETS ROFLKETS ROFLKETS ROFLKETS..."
I love this idea!
____________________________ I break thingsÖ CCP Tanis - EVE Quality Assurance|EVE Live Team CCP Games |
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James Tritanius
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Posted - 2010.07.22 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Tanis Just a little bump/reminder that the first Mass-test that counts for this bet will be August 5th @ 20:00 GMT.
It's also worth noting here that we've started working with the CSM to explore options for increasing turnout, and making these test events more "worth your time" so to speak. I'll be honest and say these things take time, so please don't expect immediate results, but we've started talking about it and we're all very keen to find sustainable ways of making this whole mass-testing program work better for everyone involved.
It would be beneficial to make the sisi client more stable and allow us to actually install it without hitch.
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cBOLTSON
Reaction Theory Talos Coalition
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Posted - 2010.07.23 01:14:00 -
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You know what, I think thats incentive enough. Never tried the test server so I may just get on it for that august 5th test.... just mabye (-_o)
And what ever you decide to do if we win the bet, record it and put it on youtube!! :)
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Lieutenant Antiri
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Posted - 2010.07.23 05:26:00 -
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In this thread: CCP Tanis reveals he is a closet cross dresser busting to come out!
I'm in!
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trade beatch
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Posted - 2010.07.23 12:01:00 -
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here's and idea...you want to find out whats generating the lag?? then fine. we can show you, we can muster the 500+ people you want. but the only way you are gonna see the lag we experience is by letting us fight our way! that means we FC our own fleets, we fly how we would normally fly. by all means have ccp members in the fleets but you cant compare what you generate in controlled circumstances with what we see every time we have fleet fights on TQ.
so you want the numbers, speka to the major blocks and have there fc's form fleets to fight on sisi for you.....then you will see the lag we see! and yes that nees to include caps/supercaps as they are very common nowadays.
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Shadow Bloodtear
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Posted - 2010.07.26 11:09:00 -
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I can bring 10+, but I'm sure my client side statistics will drag down the whole result of the tests.
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Cire XIII
Caldari Ever Flow Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.27 01:21:00 -
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Originally by: Shadow Bloodtear I can bring 10+, but I'm sure my client side statistics will drag down the whole result of the tests.
I'll be at work, but I implore you to bring those accounts. The real issuesers for us play are server side and as long as you can get your characters in warp to the grid of battle you should be able to have an effect on the server similar to that experience on TQ.
-C
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Domania
Aperture Harmonics K162
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Posted - 2010.07.27 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Tanis
Originally by: Veliria Run through the halls of CCP's building shouting an issue picked by the player. When not running, shout the issue as well, atleast every few minutes.
I can only imagine the other CCPs watching Tanis running by screaming: "ROFLKETS ROFLKETS ROFLKETS ROFLKETS ROFLKETS..."
I love this idea!
Do I sense another CCP video?
"Looks up an issue from players from the desk" "Rockets..." Tanis says quietly to himself. "What was that?" An CCP Employee next to him asks with a curious look on his face. CCP Tanis looks up at the employee with a shocked look. "Rockets... Rockets... ROCKETS!!!" Tanis starts yelling as he pushes everything off his desk and starts running down the halls screaming the issue, everyone in the building poking their heads from their office wondering what was happening.
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Spectre 6567
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:25:00 -
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Since the database is broke (again) might be a good time to go and vote!
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Deerin
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:45:00 -
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Well...I don't know CCP tanis and if CCP tanis is a female CCP member, then none of the "penalties" are "embarassing" enough. In fact She can do them all at once and look good :P
What about offering skill points for those who participate in test. You'll get above 5k subscribers on sisi his way and can really test your hardware to the limit.
...or a lottery with multiple small prizes?
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McKinlay
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.28 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Tanis Just a little bump/reminder that the first Mass-test that counts for this bet will be August 5th @ 20:00 GMT.
It's also worth noting here that we've started working with the CSM to explore options for increasing turnout, and making these test events more "worth your time" so to speak. I'll be honest and say these things take time, so please don't expect immediate results, but we've started talking about it and we're all very keen to find sustainable ways of making this whole mass-testing program work better for everyone involved.
Hey yo. There has been over 1000 people fighting (or making a rough approximation of fighting due to lag) consistently for the last 3 days in C-J6MT.
ISD EVEN REPORTED ON IT.
Just letting you know.
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RifterDrifter
They Found Oil On Your Anus
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Posted - 2010.07.28 14:15:00 -
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Edited by: RifterDrifter on 28/07/2010 14:15:24
Originally by: McKinlay
Hey yo. There has been over 1000 people fighting (or making a rough approximation of fighting due to lag) consistently for the last 3 days in C-J6MT.
ISD EVEN REPORTED ON IT.
Just letting you know.
Yes sure, but the important question here is:
Was a fleet fight notification filed for this current fight? I'm not able to see if one was at the moment but if not it is always a good idea to file one at http://www.eveonline.com/fleetfightnotification.asp. It makes a difference. _______________________________________________
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Aralieus
Amarr The Inf1dels En Garde
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Posted - 2010.07.29 03:19:00 -
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All lvl 5 skills on Singularity for a 24 hour period (after a fresh mirror)
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