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Cyberman Mastermind
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Posted - 2010.07.21 03:54:00 -
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Originally by: ThisIsNotMyAlt
Originally by: Hari Markkus Eve has lore?
eve has great lore. far better than any other games lore imho and also better than many psy-fi books and movies too.
Too bad they didn't integrate it into the game, though. |
Graelyn
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2010.07.21 04:10:00 -
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A lot of it is.
It could use more tho.
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Potamus Jenkins
The Nintendo Generation Snatch Victory
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Posted - 2010.07.21 05:11:00 -
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i make a funny sound when i exit my pod
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Kyra Felann
Gallente Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.07.21 08:19:00 -
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I'm not sure where you got the idea that we couldn't leave our pods, but we quite obviously can. -----SIGNATURE-----
Originally by: CCP Ginger Ships have crews, most pod controlled frigates do not, above that they have crews of varying sizes. Hope that helps.
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Sameela
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Posted - 2010.07.21 09:08:00 -
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Originally by: Cyberman Mastermind
Originally by: ThisIsNotMyAlt
Originally by: Hari Markkus Eve has lore?
eve has great lore. far better than any other games lore imho and also better than many psy-fi books and movies too.
Too bad they didn't integrate it into the game, though.
This is very true. Aside from the Eve epic arc and the occasional well written mission chain or COSMOS mission, you don't really learn a lot of the story/lore from playing the game. The chronicles are nice, but I don't understand why they don't have the folks writing them do some work on the mission descriptions.
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ThisIsNotMyAlt
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Posted - 2010.07.21 10:00:00 -
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i read the chronicles and the lore related articles from the evelopedia from within the game through the new igb. so it is kind of in the game for me :) |
Peter XZ
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Posted - 2010.07.21 10:17:00 -
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Originally by: Black Dranzer When I use jump clones, I close my eyes and shake my head about rapidly before slowly opening them to recreate the sense of disorientation one would presumably get from clone jumping.
But I mean, everybody does that.
.. Right?
Sure, and when u get podded, u get up from your seat and run head-first into a brick wall to recreate a sense of the slight discomfort of a violently explosive death. Playing by Eve lore is the only way to go.
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Ti'anla
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.07.21 12:12:00 -
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Edited by: Ti''anla on 21/07/2010 12:11:51
Originally by: ThisIsNotMyAlt i read the chronicles and the lore related articles from the evelopedia from within the game through the new igb. so it is kind of in the game for me :)
Quit leaning on the fourth wall, it's already bent out of shape as it is.
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Hisomi
Gallente Suicidal Intentions Blade.
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Posted - 2010.07.21 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: Lazron Kamon
Originally by: Hari Markkus Eve has lore?
I am the Lore ...
xD nice one.
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Lucia Warbler
Ordo Novus Mul-Zatah
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Posted - 2010.07.21 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Barkaial Starfinder You can always give names to your anonymous crew and cry that they all die with your ship.
Given the number of ships a capsuleer goes thru, I'm glad crew is anonymous.
Hmm, now that I think about; Eve players aren't cold, unfeeling, sadistic, etc. They are just really good role players that have gone over the edge, mentally, due massive loss of life that has disconnected them from reality. Everything around them is abstract, thus, a viable target for abusement, killing and stealing.
So: Majority of the capsuleers are really messed up people for a reason.
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Othran
Destry's Lounge Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2010.07.21 15:50:00 -
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Ummmm "lore"....
CVA<----Non-RP---->U'K/SF
Yes is the answer.
I remember U'K and PIE going at it 6 years ago when there were no real mechanisms to deal with their fight. Yes, people play by the "lore". Would you want to fly with them is another matter as often their aim for the night might be to suicide/podexpress back for the next night.
NB the above is just meant to indicate people who fight against each other because of role-playing/backstory reasons. Some are pretty strange IME ;)
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Lorieen
AQ Militis Seprentia
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Posted - 2010.07.21 17:59:00 -
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To best replicate the pod experience when playing eve, I only sit in a round hinoki tub filled with astroglide.
Maybe there is some better ideas out there I dont know.
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Cory Sopapilla
Minmatar Kiroshi Group
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Posted - 2010.07.21 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: Khavi Kitamatsu You'd give up eating lobster or a steak? You'd give up looking out across a valley surrounded by snow capped peaks and breath in clean fresh air? Our listening to song birds perched outside a window? Playing with your children?
Watching children play in lobster infested valleys where you become steak for a bunch of vulcher birds?
Oh wait sorry. Dyslexia kicked in again.
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Ryhss
Caldari Ominous Corp Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.21 19:20:00 -
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Edited by: Ryhss on 21/07/2010 19:24:51 I don't play the pod of goo midset, I hate that idea. I know it's what the actual game is, but I pay to play too. I can imagine whatever I like. :)
Originally by: Yodabunny You're brain is jacked into a supercomputer. You can eat steak and walk on a beach whenever you want just by running a program.
That's 'The Matrix'....
Originally by: Abrazzar I don't know what's going on but I am terribly upset about it.
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Durnin Stormbrow
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Posted - 2010.07.21 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: Khavi Kitamatsu Would a human, knowing human nature, give up everything we are and capable of to be jacked into a computer system and encased in a pod of goo and give up all the things that make us human?
You'd give up making love? You'd give up eating lobster or a steak? You'd give up looking out across a valley surrounded by snow capped peaks and breath in clean fresh air? Our listening to song birds perched outside a window? What about getting with friends and playing a game of cards and joking and eating munchies? Or how about walking into a night club, the music pounding, the lights, the chatter, the people, the smell of perfume and liquor. Life is a wonderful thing full of so much wonder...a pod...a pod is goo - just goo.
So which is it? Pod of goo...or a life?
I didn't know it at the time, but I gave up all that to get married.
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Corozan Aspinall
Party Time Inc.
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Posted - 2010.07.21 22:28:00 -
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Originally by: Menkaure Pod pilots can disconnect from their pods.
Incarna Teaser
Thats just one of many examples in the chrons, novels etc that support the fact.
This. Although there is obviously an issue with pod pilots subjecting themselves to the extremes in discomfort/dissociative identity disorder and stress of full ambulation and consciousness etc. just ... to go buy a beer in a minmatar bar. A social action involving chemical stimulants etc. Something a capsuleer would probably never need or want to do. Especially as they grow older and stay 'under' longer.
I sincerely doubt entering and exiting a pod is a trivial thing - why would a capsuleer ever need to leave his capsule anyway? Or want to? Think of the 'bends' in a digital sense. He/she is after-all fabulously wealthy, practically immortal etc. He'd be kinda like the Emperor of Mankind or a Space Marine dreadnought from the 40k cannon with all the cognitive and physical disadvantages of long term stasis surely? Even if you ascribe the theory of capsuleering along the lines of Gibson's character 'Case' in Neuromancer and his addiction to the freedom of disembodiment provided by jacking in to the matrix and his 'contempt for the meat' formed from so much time spent in a pure consciousness state. Not having to endure all the irrelevancies of social interaction and delayed (biological) processes/stimuli between say deciding to 'know' something and having to read it or seeing something and interpreting it on an (deprecated) organic not a digital level?
Its going to be a big deal for a capsuleer to come 'up' and without a doubt capsuleers will develop extreme personality dysfunction (effectively transcending beyond what we understand as established behavioural patterns and regulated human behaviour) over the (apparently) endless years of isolation?
Hehe. Who reading this has never noticed their addiction to the primacy and urgency provided by the internet? The seductivity of instant information recall and the sheer volume of factoids and impulses you can indulge in seconds that would take oh-so-long minutes or agonizing hours of 'swimming in syrup' real-world physical interactions to aquire?
The pod thing is going to need some revision I think for Incarna. Either that or there will need to be some fleshing out. I haven't read the novel though, I am sure it was address in that? Who has? Want to share?
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.07.21 22:47:00 -
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Originally by: Khavi Kitamatsu When you play EVE do you play by the lore in that your character is encased in a pod of goo? Or like me, do you play like your character merely jacks into her ships systems and can merely unplug sorta speak to allow her the ability to leave her ship and do things on stations and such whenever she wants?
Think about it for a sec. Would a human, knowing human nature, give up everything we are and capable of to be jacked into a computer system and encased in a pod of goo and give up all the things that make us human? You'd give up making love? You'd give up eating lobster or a steak? You'd give up looking out across a valley surrounded by snow capped peaks and breath in clean fresh air? Our listening to song birds perched outside a window? Playing with your children? What about getting with friends and playing a game of cards and joking and eating munchies? How about climbing on the roof of your house with your loved one spreading a blanket out and laying down drinking wine and staring up at the stars overhead, reaching over and taking the persons hand and thanking the Gods that you are alive for this moment in time. Or how about walking into a night club, the music pounding, the lights, the chatter, the people, the smell of perfume and liquor. Life is a wonderful thing full of so much wonder...a pod...a pod is goo - just goo.
So which is it? Pod of goo...or a life?
TL;DR I didn't read the lore before I asked if you play by it. This is clearly a signature. |
Corozan Aspinall
Party Time Inc.
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Posted - 2010.07.21 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher Jones
Originally by: Khavi Kitamatsu When you play EVE do you play by the lore in that your character is encased in a pod of goo? Or like me, do you play like your character merely jacks into her ships systems and can merely unplug sorta speak to allow her the ability to leave her ship and do things on stations and such whenever she wants?
Think about it for a sec. Would a human, knowing human nature, give up everything we are and capable of to be jacked into a computer system and encased in a pod of goo and give up all the things that make us human? You'd give up making love? You'd give up eating lobster or a steak? You'd give up looking out across a valley surrounded by snow capped peaks and breath in clean fresh air? Our listening to song birds perched outside a window? Playing with your children? What about getting with friends and playing a game of cards and joking and eating munchies? How about climbing on the roof of your house with your loved one spreading a blanket out and laying down drinking wine and staring up at the stars overhead, reaching over and taking the persons hand and thanking the Gods that you are alive for this moment in time. Or how about walking into a night club, the music pounding, the lights, the chatter, the people, the smell of perfume and liquor. Life is a wonderful thing full of so much wonder...a pod...a pod is goo - just goo.
So which is it? Pod of goo...or a life?
TL;DR I didn't read the lore before I asked if you play by it.
Sincerely? Yes I would. In a heartbeat. As organisms we are painfully limited to a mere five senses. Unable to even communicate accurately to others because we are limited by the neolithic medium of grunting noises and the farce of vocabulary.
Give me a tub of goo and the infinite potential of true consciousness (whatever that is!) any day. Space-ships and pew pew welcome extra!?
I guess the poor Jovians are the end result of such fantastic potential shoe horned in to a meat popsicle. They seem to have technology beyond their level of evolution and are still subject to petty nonsense like physicality, personality and associative madness/sanity. Pfft!
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.07.22 04:02:00 -
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I like to imagine that my character is being naughty and wandering their ship while cruising about. Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |
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