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Lazarus Telraven
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.26 18:22:00 -
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Having done quite a bit of solo roaming lately, I think the only real issue with the ASB currently is that it has TOO many charges, if they take away 2-3 charges from it then I think it would be fairly balanced |
Klown Walk
Knysna Grim Reapers Absolute Darkness
110
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Posted - 2012.07.26 22:46:00 -
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T3 links needs nerfs if anything. |
Rroff
The Xenodus Initiative. Overclockers Podpilot Services
26
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Posted - 2012.07.27 13:07:00 -
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T3 links are fine mostly, interdiction one is a little bit over the top now but its not game breaking. The only people I see crying about them are the people who don't want to have to go to the effort of bringing their own link ship. |
Jerick Ludhowe
Toxic Waste Industries
142
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Posted - 2012.08.17 14:27:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:This is funny, people are acting like some great sea of 1v1s are being ruined by ASBs.
Its a myth, everybody blobs, and the ASB is the small gang blob equalizer. I roam about every night for 2-3 hours a night around lowsec, and what do i see, groups of 3-4 people looking for easy kills.
What has the ASB done to that? Oh, what, those 3-4 people are now getting curb stomped by a lone ship or not getting the kills they wanted at all?
Oh, damn...
Guess it sucks to be a victim of the environment you created.
This has got to be a troll post as you've managed to destroy your own argument within a few sentences. "ASB are fine because it allows me to fight 4 people while solo and they are trying to gank solo players so it's fair." If not a troll i just don't understand how this situation could be reasonably mistaken for balanced. |
Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
971
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Posted - 2012.08.17 15:27:00 -
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Jerick Ludhowe wrote:[quote=Grath Telkin]
This has got to be a troll post as you've managed to destroy your own argument within a few sentences. "ASB are fine because it allows me to fight 4 people while solo and they are trying to gank solo players so it's fair." If not a troll i just don't understand how this situation could be reasonably mistaken for balanced.
Yea I mean honestly numbers should always be the only thing in EVE that matters what the hells wrong with me right?
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Jerick Ludhowe
Toxic Waste Industries
142
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Posted - 2012.08.17 15:43:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Jerick Ludhowe wrote:[quote=Grath Telkin]
This has got to be a troll post as you've managed to destroy your own argument within a few sentences. "ASB are fine because it allows me to fight 4 people while solo and they are trying to gank solo players so it's fair." If not a troll i just don't understand how this situation could be reasonably mistaken for balanced. Yea I mean honestly numbers should always be the only thing in EVE that matters what the hells wrong with me right?
Stop over simplifying things.... 4v1 could always be done prior to asb, however it took specific flying and required for specific counter fits to not be present. The thing about the 4v1 situation you talk about with asb is that it's a brawling situation... Never should 1 person of similar ship class be able to take 4 other similarly skilled players in a throw down brawl situation especially when looking at the low relative cost of these asb fits... I'm sorry but saying something stupid like "Yea I mean honestly numbers should always be the only thing in EVE that matters what the hells wrong with me right?" is a deplorable fail counter argument at best. No where did i ever mention that eve should be strictly based around numbers... Stop grasping at straws garth, you're not good at it. |
Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
971
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Posted - 2012.08.17 15:49:00 -
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Jerick Ludhowe wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:Jerick Ludhowe wrote:[quote=Grath Telkin]
This has got to be a troll post as you've managed to destroy your own argument within a few sentences. "ASB are fine because it allows me to fight 4 people while solo and they are trying to gank solo players so it's fair." If not a troll i just don't understand how this situation could be reasonably mistaken for balanced. Yea I mean honestly numbers should always be the only thing in EVE that matters what the hells wrong with me right? Stop over simplifying things.... 4v1 could always be done prior to asb, however it took specific flying and required for specific counter fits to not be present. The thing about the 4v1 situation you talk about with asb is that it's a brawling situation... Never should 1 person of similar ship class be able to take 4 other similarly skilled players in a throw down brawl situation especially when looking at the low relative cost of these asb fits... I'm sorry but saying something stupid like "Yea I mean honestly numbers should always be the only thing in EVE that matters what the hells wrong with me right?" is a deplorable fail counter argument at best. No where did i ever mention that eve should be strictly based around numbers... Stop grasping at straws garth, you're not good at it.
You didnt have to use all those words to come up with "numbers should beat everything".
And no, I wont stop oversimplifying it, because you contradict yourself in your own statement by saying that it could be done before the ASB then later you say it shouldn't ever be possible.
Its ok that you want numbers to rule over all, but just be man enough to admit it openly and not hide it behind a wall of double talk and words |
Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
971
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Posted - 2012.08.17 15:51:00 -
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Also how can you have specific counter fits in a 4 on 1 fight? You have one ship, how frickin specific can you get?
I think you got owned by some scrublord in an ASB ship and came to angry post about it today, so while you rant rage and complain I'll just sit here counter posting while killing little youngins with their ASBs in FW. |
Jerick Ludhowe
Toxic Waste Industries
142
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Posted - 2012.08.17 16:08:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote: And no, I wont stop oversimplifying it, because you contradict yourself in your own statement by saying that it could be done before the ASB then later you say it shouldn't ever be possible.
Re read again please, you will notice that i stated it could be done prior to asbs so long as specific counters were not present. Also you will notice that the 4v1s i'm talking about being broken post asb patch is in regards to "brawling" not kiting which would have been the most applicable way to win a 4v1 prior to asb. As far as 4v1 brawling of similar ship class/pilots prior to asb it was only really achievable through the use offgrids, boosters, and faction/dead space gear. Also this would require the lack again ofspecific counters being present, in the case of these pre asb super tanks these were nuets...
With the introduction of asb the primary counter to these super tanks is no longer available, further more the lack of required cap booster means you have extra slots available for either a back up asb or invulns/boost amps. Currently the only real viable counter to an asb super tank is to bring more dps/people... The whole "wait for his charges to run out" is again dependent on the dps fielded.
As for the whole me getting owned by some asb scrublord... Naaa man, i'm not about it for personal interest, i'm about it for the health of eve. Current asb mechanics are not healthy for eve by any stretch of argument and will most certainly be nerfed within a years time.
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Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
971
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Posted - 2012.08.17 16:36:00 -
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Jerick Ludhowe wrote:Grath Telkin wrote: And no, I wont stop oversimplifying it, because you contradict yourself in your own statement by saying that it could be done before the ASB then later you say it shouldn't ever be possible.
Re read again please, you will notice that i stated it could be done prior to asbs so long as specific counters were not present. Also you will notice that the 4v1s i'm talking about being broken post asb patch is in regards to "brawling" not kiting which would have been the most applicable way to win a 4v1 prior to asb. As far as 4v1 brawling of similar ship class/pilots prior to asb it was only really achievable through the use offgrids, boosters, and faction/dead space gear. Also this would require the lack again ofspecific counters being present, in the case of these pre asb super tanks these were nuets... With the introduction of asb the primary counter to these super tanks is no longer available, further more the lack of required cap booster means you have extra slots available for either a back up asb or invulns/boost amps. Currently the only real viable counter to an asb super tank is to bring more dps/people... The whole "wait for his charges to run out" is again dependent on the dps fielded. As for the whole me getting owned by some asb scrublord... Naaa man, i'm not about it for personal interest, i'm about it for the health of eve. Current asb mechanics are not healthy for eve by any stretch of argument and will most certainly be nerfed within a years time.
Interesting, I see ASB fitted ships die every night, I wonder what in the world you're talking about.
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