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Boma Airaken
Harlock's Vindicta Aggressive Dissonance
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Posted - 2010.07.24 04:49:00 -
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Originally by: Krythas From your first sentence you were failing at the honesty card.
Originally by: Boma Airaken Looking for a loan so I can do an experiment. Starting small at 6 billion isk with a conservative 5% payback as I am not positive this will work. Worst case scenario is you get the 6 billion isk as that is the baseprice of the goods in question.
Is not being honest, Hoesnty would have said
Originally by: Boma Airaken Looking for a loan so I can do an experiment. Starting small at 6 billion isk with a conservative 5% payback as I am not positive this will work. Worst case scenario is you lose the 6 billion isk as I could quite happily run off with it.
Except, that doesn't really do much to endear potential investors to you right ? so you either lied about the potential risk (not honest) or completely missed a quite obvious risk (would you invest in stupid ?)
Either way, this is a failure before it started. (and that's just the first paragraph of an obviously well written proposal)
You would make sense if I was asking for 60, not 6.
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.07.24 05:10:00 -
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Originally by: israus
Originally by: Boma Airaken
I don't recall getting any collateral when I bought shares in One Stop, and it worked out quite swimmingly for me.
really so one stop haven't got like 130 billion in bpo's locked down as collateral??
If he was an investor when LoW ran One Stop, then he's right. BPOs were not locked down to provide collateral then.
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.07.24 05:19:00 -
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Originally by: Boma Airaken
Originally by: ThisIsNotMyAlt lol @op, you'll not get any investors with that kind of attitude :P
you need to be nice to them and answer their questions in detail and bring all your friends along to post how cool of a fellow you are.
Of course not. Spunk and ambition with a side of **** and vinegar is feared rather than valued in this day and age. And of course I have to go into detail. People here want to make money right? Why not get it figured out from the guy with the idea and just do it yourself?
Oh please, do not flatter yourself. Simple question - do you want to borrow six billion from people who know absolutely nothing about you except that you're extremely arrogant? If the answer is yes, show some common sense and work with potential investors. If the answer is no - bye.
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Boma Airaken
Harlock's Vindicta Aggressive Dissonance
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Posted - 2010.07.24 05:26:00 -
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Originally by: Varo Jan
Originally by: Boma Airaken
Originally by: ThisIsNotMyAlt lol @op, you'll not get any investors with that kind of attitude :P
you need to be nice to them and answer their questions in detail and bring all your friends along to post how cool of a fellow you are.
Of course not. Spunk and ambition with a side of **** and vinegar is feared rather than valued in this day and age. And of course I have to go into detail. People here want to make money right? Why not get it figured out from the guy with the idea and just do it yourself?
Oh please, do not flatter yourself. Simple question - do you want to borrow six billion from people who know absolutely nothing about you except that you're extremely arrogant? If the answer is yes, show some common sense and work with potential investors. If the answer is no - bye.
I thought that is what I was doing when I invited any interested parties to have a chat about the venture, volunteered to give out some API love, and try to work this project with a trusted third party.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2010.07.24 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: Varo Jan Oh please, do not flatter yourself. Simple question - do you want to borrow six billion from people who know absolutely nothing about you except that you're extremely arrogant? If the answer is yes, show some common sense and work with potential investors. If the answer is no - bye.
Beat me to it mate, beat me to it. Originally by: Boma Airaken Spunk and ambition with a side of **** and vinegar is feared rather than valued in this day and age. And of course I have to go into detail.
Dear OP, You have only offered spunk and ambition, so far only in the form of **** and vinegar. These items are to be found in abundance on the internet. Everyone has spunk, everyone wants to get ahead, and without a doubt everyone can be a posting jackass. I know as I'm often called one of the bigger ones! However you have only, by your actions, grouped yourself in the group labeled, "Everyone on the Internet." What you need to do is endeavor to prove yourself as something else. Ideally in the group labeled, "Not a scammer." Granted, you will not be able to achieve that any time soon. You first have to do "Not calling everyone names", then proceed to "Working with others". Hopefully you'll achieve "Got investors" with a good head start towards "Happily paid off investors". Right now, you are doing the crash and burn routine. Mind you, I'm riotously full of spunk - tons of **** and vinegar so I have an appreciation of it. You are, to date, squandering the value of that methodology by fighting posts that don't need to be answered with spunk or hostility. I can only hope that you bother to read this and find yourself reassessing your current strategy. Only fight uphill when there is no other choice - all else is an inefficient waste of time and energy. PS: Again, might I suggest an eve mail my direction?
Wealth, howsoever got, in Eve makes Lords of morons and gentlemen of thieves; Aptitude and intellect are needless here; 'Tis impudence and money that grants fame. |
Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.07.24 07:07:00 -
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Originally by: Boma Airaken I thought that is what I was doing when I invited any interested parties to have a chat about the venture, volunteered to give out some API love, and try to work this project with a trusted third party.
Your message drowned in the sea of unnecessarily arrogant posts from you.
I'd advise you to take up Shar's offer and have a chat with him.
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Thoraemond
Minmatar Far Ranger
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Posted - 2010.07.24 07:13:00 -
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Originally by: Boma Airaken When was the last time you asked a reference call your potential employer rather than the other way around?
Asking a reference to post once in your thread to confirm your claims is more akin to asking a for a letter of reference, which is pretty common. I haven't seen anyone here suggest that LadyOfWrath should be contacting each of your potential investors individually and directly to advocate on your behalf.
Originally by: Boma Airaken Also, last time I checked, arrogance is a sign of self confidence.
You should probably check again. Such a definition is incomplete. By most definitions and uses "arrogance" is unwarranted pride and self confidence: it is not a good sign. á á
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2010.07.24 08:08:00 -
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Originally by: Varo Jan I'd advise you to take up Shar's offer and have a chat with him.
OP has Eve mailed me some pertinent details and I've made a few quick suggestions. IMNSHO the OP will be a bit of time absorbing them (and probably asking me more) and deciding how he might want to restructure this. However, at this time, nothing specific to say this is scam. Nothing specific to say it is not. Just an offering in limbo... ... even possibly to be relaunched. In closing, nothing to see here.
Wealth, howsoever got, in Eve makes Lords of morons and gentlemen of thieves; Aptitude and intellect are needless here; 'Tis impudence and money that grants fame. |
Boma Airaken
Perkone
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Posted - 2010.07.25 22:27:00 -
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Edited by: Boma Airaken on 25/07/2010 22:29:12 After reading Shar's critique of my project, I have decided to let it ride with my own money for a bit. Shar pointed out some flaws, I did some more research, and no longer have any doubt about the profitability of the venture, it is very very good, but the time to ROI is still causing me some worry.
We'll see how round one goes and if it works out to the point where I can get a good idea of time to ROI, I will relaunch with more fluff and bull****, and less **** and vinegar.
ETA: Thank you very much for your time and advice Shar.
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