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Omnathious Deninard
M'Tar Logistics Division Night Sky Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.27 00:01:00 -
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it would still be worth while to get a survey range bonus on the mack/retriever if for no other reason than it role as a solo miner, no orca to do that thing for you. form another prospective it means one less tank module |
Blahstress
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.07.27 13:18:00 -
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Infinite Force wrote:Dave stark wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:On a different topic I would like to the the Retriever and Mackinaw have a bonus to survey scanners scan range (25-50% per level), being they are for independent mining this kind of bonus would be a benefit to the ship. not really, when you've only got 15km range any thing past 15k is irrelevant. Only if solo. With a maxed booster, you're getting 25+ (I think 29 is absolute max with the right implants).
The limited range on the T2 scanner is a huge pass in the ***
Its get annoying to have a scanner that only shows you 22km when your laser range in 25km.
Personally I think the Orca/Rorq scanner range bonus should be removed and added as a fleet bonus.
As for storing crystals in the Hulk... thats what the corp hanger in the Orca is for. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Comic Mischief
858
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Posted - 2012.07.27 13:25:00 -
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All exhumers have had their cargo reduced to 350. But T2 crystals are now 25 cu m http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Jake Rivers
Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
81
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Posted - 2012.07.27 13:30:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:All exhumers have had their cargo reduced to 350. But T2 crystals are now 25 cu m
Meh
Thats only a dozen crystals!
But better than before.
Be nice to see better scanners though, or range bonus.
My lasers hit out over 29k with my rorq running, but no way of knowing what is in those rocks out there.
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Sheynan
Lighting the blight
30
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Posted - 2012.07.27 14:46:00 -
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...this will never end cause I want more, more give me more, give me more...
*whistles* |
Janet Patton
Brony Express
27
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Posted - 2012.07.27 15:19:00 -
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Do Exhumers have 100% EM resistance now?
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Infinite Force
Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
102
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Posted - 2012.07.27 15:23:00 -
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Blahstress wrote:Infinite Force wrote:Dave stark wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:On a different topic I would like to the the Retriever and Mackinaw have a bonus to survey scanners scan range (25-50% per level), being they are for independent mining this kind of bonus would be a benefit to the ship. not really, when you've only got 15km range any thing past 15k is irrelevant. Only if solo. With a maxed booster, you're getting 25+ (I think 29 is absolute max with the right implants). The limited range on the T2 scanner is a huge pass in the *** Its get annoying to have a scanner that only shows you 22km when your laser range in 25km. Personally I think the Orca/Rorq scanner range bonus should be removed and added as a fleet bonus. As for storing crystals in the Hulk... thats what the corp hanger in the Orca is for. Yes, scanners should have the the same, if not more of a range, than what you can actually mine from. The bonus should not become a "fleet" bonus, sorry.
The Orca pilot is for hauling away my Ore, not my personal butler. Why don't you try mining in Null / Low / Wh space some time. You don't park an Orca pilot near your ships - it's only there long enough to pickup what you're jetting - and then it's a "get in, grab the ore, get out" - bothering with extra crystal logistics adds to your potential for getting caught.
Sorry, the "use orca for your crystals" has no substance to the argument. One could just as easily argue that you need a dedicated Crystal hauler in an industrial. HROLT CEO Live Free; Die Proud
Hammer Mineral Compression -á- The only way to go! |
Infinite Force
Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
102
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Posted - 2012.07.27 15:26:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:All exhumers have had their cargo reduced to 350. But T2 crystals are now 25 cu m Well, this is certainly a step in the right direction.
You still need the cargohold to scale based on the number of strips you have.
A Skiff @ 350m3 is "effectively" 3 times as big as a Hulk @ 350m3 - as it has 1 strip and a hulk has 3. HROLT CEO Live Free; Die Proud
Hammer Mineral Compression -á- The only way to go! |
Dave stark
Bombardier Inc
280
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Posted - 2012.07.27 15:29:00 -
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Infinite Force wrote:Sorry, the "use orca for your crystals" has no substance to the argument. One could just as easily argue that you need a dedicated Crystal hauler in an industrial.
it wouldn't be so bad but not every one can just pull things out of an orca's hangar. if you're juggling several accounts this can be a pain in the back side.
unrelated to the above; i just read about the mining crystal changes. does any one have the t2 strip miner stats handy? because if i'm not mistaken they have a 50m3 cargo capacity, for current t2 crystals, if t2 crystals are now 25m3, can we load 2 crystals per strip? Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
Sarmatiko
754
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Posted - 2012.07.27 15:30:00 -
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IIRC shieldEmDamageResonance: 1.0 = 0% of EM resistance. With the skill lvl V you will have resistances closer to current Exhumer basic resistances.
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Denidil
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
336
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Posted - 2012.07.27 15:31:00 -
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Sarmatiko wrote:IIRC shieldEmDamageResonance: 1.0 = 0% of EM resistance. With the skill lvl V you will have resistances closer to current Exhumer basic resistances.
i'll update my pyfa and see what it says.
[edit] pyfa says it is a multiplier.. so you're right.. 1.0 = 0% resist If you don't see a problem in 0.0 eroding into two big super-coalitions and a few hangers on in areas nobody cares about.. then you don't have brains. |
Infinite Force
Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
102
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Posted - 2012.07.27 15:31:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:Infinite Force wrote:Sorry, the "use orca for your crystals" has no substance to the argument. One could just as easily argue that you need a dedicated Crystal hauler in an industrial. it wouldn't be so bad but not every one can just pull things out of an orca's hangar. if you're juggling several accounts this can be a pain in the back side. unrelated to the above; i just read about the mining crystal changes. does any one have the t2 strip miner stats handy? because if i'm not mistaken they have a 50m3 cargo capacity, for current t2 crystals, if t2 crystals are now 25m3, can we load 2 crystals per strip? That would be interesting? Like POS guns - a crystal breaks, a new one is "auto-loaded"? Or, mine twice as much? ... hehehe HROLT CEO Live Free; Die Proud
Hammer Mineral Compression -á- The only way to go! |
Adrenalinemax
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.27 15:32:00 -
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Just playing on SiSi, seems they change shield resists for exhumers from 5% to 7.5% per level of mining barge
naked hulk em resist 0% jump in with mining barge 5 pilot - 25% em resist
either the ship is wrong or the description is wrong...
anyone else see this? |
Dave stark
Bombardier Inc
281
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Posted - 2012.07.27 15:36:00 -
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Infinite Force wrote:Dave stark wrote:Infinite Force wrote:Sorry, the "use orca for your crystals" has no substance to the argument. One could just as easily argue that you need a dedicated Crystal hauler in an industrial. it wouldn't be so bad but not every one can just pull things out of an orca's hangar. if you're juggling several accounts this can be a pain in the back side. unrelated to the above; i just read about the mining crystal changes. does any one have the t2 strip miner stats handy? because if i'm not mistaken they have a 50m3 cargo capacity, for current t2 crystals, if t2 crystals are now 25m3, can we load 2 crystals per strip? That would be interesting? Like POS guns - a crystal breaks, a new one is "auto-loaded"? Or, mine twice as much? ... hehehe
well mining crystals auto reload anyway (they just don't automatically re-start the module) Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
Annette Aumer
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.27 15:40:00 -
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Adrenalinemax wrote:Just playing on SiSi, seems they change shield resists for exhumers from 5% to 7.5% per level of mining barge
naked hulk em resist 0% jump in with mining barge 5 pilot - 25% em resist
either the ship is wrong or the description is wrong...
anyone else see this?
that was there a few days ago too. Because of the lack of mid slots i beleive thats by design.
In regards to the Crystal changes.
Strip miner capacity has also been halved. |
Denidil
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
336
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Posted - 2012.07.27 15:42:00 -
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these resist changes are bad, and CCP should feel bad. If you don't see a problem in 0.0 eroding into two big super-coalitions and a few hangers on in areas nobody cares about.. then you don't have brains. |
Dave stark
Bombardier Inc
281
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Posted - 2012.07.27 15:43:00 -
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Annette Aumer wrote:Adrenalinemax wrote:Just playing on SiSi, seems they change shield resists for exhumers from 5% to 7.5% per level of mining barge
naked hulk em resist 0% jump in with mining barge 5 pilot - 25% em resist
either the ship is wrong or the description is wrong...
anyone else see this? that was there a few days ago too. Because of the lack of mid slots i beleive thats by design. In regards to the Crystal changes. Strip miner capacity has also been halved.
that answers my double loading crystals then, i was hoping to steal some more space by double loading. Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
Annette Aumer
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2012.07.27 15:47:00 -
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Denidil wrote:these resist changes are bad, and CCP should feel bad.
Why?
Its how they're adding the more tank to the Exhumers.
You'll have Barge V to be able to fly an exhumer which gives you 25% EM resist in your shield. it gives you a more balanced shield without having to sacrifice too many mid slots?
or am I needing to L2P? |
Jake Rivers
Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
81
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Posted - 2012.07.27 15:48:00 -
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Sheynan wrote:...this will never end cause I want more, more give me more, give me more...
*whistles*
No one is asking for more, just to be able to have the same selection we currently lug around in the hulk.
15-20 crystals is not an unreasonable amount to have on hand, I carry this many on each of my 3 hulks when I am mining, and I try to vary the types between each hulk. |
Annette Aumer
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2012.07.27 15:50:00 -
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Jake Rivers wrote:Sheynan wrote:...this will never end cause I want more, more give me more, give me more...
*whistles* No one is asking for more, just to be able to have the same selection we currently lug around in the hulk. 15-20 crystals is not an unreasonable amount to have on hand, I carry this many on each of my 3 hulks when I am mining, and I try to vary the types between each hulk.
so a reduction to 20m3 for the T2 crystals will see you happy at 17 crystals in a hulks cargohold if i'm reading that right. |
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Buzzy Warstl
The Strontium Asylum
172
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Posted - 2012.07.27 15:55:00 -
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Adrenalinemax wrote:Just playing on SiSi, seems they change shield resists for exhumers from 5% to 7.5% per level of mining barge
naked hulk em resist 0% jump in with mining barge 5 pilot - 25% em resist
either the ship is wrong or the description is wrong...
anyone else see this? It looks like the ship is finally right for the old description, but not synchronised to the new description yet. |
Dave stark
Bombardier Inc
281
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Posted - 2012.07.27 15:56:00 -
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Annette Aumer wrote:Jake Rivers wrote:Sheynan wrote:...this will never end cause I want more, more give me more, give me more...
*whistles* No one is asking for more, just to be able to have the same selection we currently lug around in the hulk. 15-20 crystals is not an unreasonable amount to have on hand, I carry this many on each of my 3 hulks when I am mining, and I try to vary the types between each hulk. so a reduction to 20m3 for the T2 crystals will see you happy at 17 crystals in a hulks cargohold if i'm reading that right.
14 crystals @ 25m3, not 20m3. Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
Annette Aumer
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2012.07.27 15:59:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:Annette Aumer wrote:Jake Rivers wrote:Sheynan wrote:...this will never end cause I want more, more give me more, give me more...
*whistles* No one is asking for more, just to be able to have the same selection we currently lug around in the hulk. 15-20 crystals is not an unreasonable amount to have on hand, I carry this many on each of my 3 hulks when I am mining, and I try to vary the types between each hulk. so a reduction to 20m3 for the T2 crystals will see you happy at 17 crystals in a hulks cargohold if i'm reading that right. 14 crystals @ 25m3, not 20m3.
Dave. I love you but learn to read. I wasn't quoting at 25m3. i was answering the guy who wanted between 15-20 crystals like he already can. so i fiddled the numbers and found that 350m3 divided by 20 would give you 17 (17.5 but you can't buy halfcrystals)
and basically asked him if the crystals WERE 20m3 would he be happy. |
Denidil
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
336
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Posted - 2012.07.27 16:00:00 -
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Annette Aumer wrote:Denidil wrote:these resist changes are bad, and CCP should feel bad. Why? Its how they're adding the more tank to the Exhumers. You'll have Barge V to be able to fly an exhumer which gives you 25% EM resist in your shield. it gives you a more balanced shield without having to sacrifice too many mid slots? or am I needing to L2P?
my reaction was based off pyfa tank numbers.. tank went down
problem is pyfa isn't applying their resist bonuses. If you don't see a problem in 0.0 eroding into two big super-coalitions and a few hangers on in areas nobody cares about.. then you don't have brains. |
Dave stark
Bombardier Inc
281
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Posted - 2012.07.27 16:05:00 -
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Annette Aumer wrote:Dave stark wrote:Annette Aumer wrote:Jake Rivers wrote:Sheynan wrote:...this will never end cause I want more, more give me more, give me more...
*whistles* No one is asking for more, just to be able to have the same selection we currently lug around in the hulk. 15-20 crystals is not an unreasonable amount to have on hand, I carry this many on each of my 3 hulks when I am mining, and I try to vary the types between each hulk. so a reduction to 20m3 for the T2 crystals will see you happy at 17 crystals in a hulks cargohold if i'm reading that right. 14 crystals @ 25m3, not 20m3. Dave. I love you but learn to read. I wasn't quoting at 25m3. i was answering the guy who wanted between 15-20 crystals like he already can. so i fiddled the numbers and found that 350m3 divided by 20 would give you 17 (17.5 but you can't buy halfcrystals) and basically asked him if the crystals WERE 20m3 would he be happy.
i haven't had my afternoon nap, it's too warm to sleep.
:( Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
Annette Aumer
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2012.07.27 16:08:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:
i haven't had my afternoon nap, it's too warm to sleep.
:(
haha no worries, I know the feeling. It will soon be hometime for me. Or more accurately "go to a beergarden to enjoy whats left of the sunshine as you've been working in an office all day" but its not quite as catchy. |
Noslen Nosilla
Federal Logistics Initiative Conglomerate
7
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Posted - 2012.07.27 16:34:00 -
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So the cargohold on all mining barges is 350m3 except the Covetor which still has the 500m3 cargohold. all the exhumers have a 350m3 cargohold now. T1 Crystals 15m3 now T2 Crystals 25m3 now
You still can't fit more than 13 T2 crystals in the cargohold because you have to have the empty space of one crystal to change a crystal out.
Hmmm. |
Dave stark
Bombardier Inc
284
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Posted - 2012.07.27 16:36:00 -
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Noslen Nosilla wrote:So the cargohold on all mining barges is 350m3 except the Covetor which still has the 500m3 cargohold. all the exhumers have a 350m3 cargohold now. T1 Crystals 15m3 now T2 Crystals 25m3 now Hmmm.
it would seem so.
which means the 350 on the hulk is an oversight, or the covetor having 500m3 is an oversight. Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
Jake Rivers
Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
81
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Posted - 2012.07.27 17:17:00 -
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Ideally having a full set of crystals with room for a few spares would be nice, then you wouldn't have to bother swapping out crystals before you dock each time to tailor your mining for the belt you are going after, I know myself this takes about 10-15 minutes each time I set up for a mining op with my fleet. When I get home and decide I want to mine, I want to jump right in, not micromanage the crystal inventory.
And you do need spares, as the current format, it is impossible to check each crystal for wear when you are docked, and there is no way of knowing if the crystals you are taking out are going to last for the night or blow out after a few cycles.
Reducing the crystal size by half was a step in the right direction, but it is not enough to accommodate a busy mining schedule. I could live with having enough crystals to go after 5 rock types, but doing away with the crystal micromanagement would rule. |
Denidil
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
336
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Posted - 2012.07.27 17:53:00 -
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Jake Rivers wrote: And you do need spares, as the current format, it is impossible to check each crystal for wear when you are docked
wrong.. show info If you don't see a problem in 0.0 eroding into two big super-coalitions and a few hangers on in areas nobody cares about.. then you don't have brains. |
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