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Rudolf Speer
Speer Mining LLC
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Posted - 2010.07.30 06:05:00 -
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lets say you are attacked by a pirate; he gets you into hull and convos you. he tells you pay x amount of isk and we/I let you go. is it considerd smacktalk to flatly refuse to pay any ramsome by saying stuff like "I would rather die kissing space dust!" or "lol give it your best shot!", "you can kiss my bottom section!"
assume this is done right away with no attmet to stall and/or call in corp mates - basicly a colorfull version of the old 'i wont support terrorist' stance
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.30 06:08:00 -
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I believe the correct line is "I'll crush you with my main".
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Razzor Death
Antares Shipyards Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.30 06:10:00 -
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Originally by: Rudolf Speer lets say you are attacked by a pirate; he gets you into hull and convos you. he tells you pay x amount of isk and we/I let you go. is it considerd smacktalk to flatly refuse to pay any ramsome by saying stuff like "I would rather die kissing space dust!" or "lol give it your best shot!", "you can kiss my bottom section!"
assume this is done right away with no attmet to stall and/or call in corp mates - basicly a colorfull version of the old 'i wont support terrorist' stance
Terrible troll
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Persephone Astrid
The Bastards
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Posted - 2010.07.30 06:24:00 -
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I can appreciate "I would rather die kissing space dust" because it shows imagination and is true to the setting. The other two. . . are just boring. I hate boring people who say boring things. I like my victims to have a sense of style and panache.
All in all, though, I'd rather have the ISK.
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Paul Clavet
Honorless Internet Jerks
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Posted - 2010.07.30 06:26:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Torrin I believe the correct line is "I'll crush you with my main".
I always liked "We'll paste you in lowsec!" ---- Blog: My Loot, Your Tears |
Ran Khanon
Amarr Swords Horses and Heavy Metal
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Posted - 2010.07.30 06:26:00 -
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Originally by: Rudolf Speer lets say you are attacked by a pirate; he gets you into hull and convos you. he tells you pay x amount of isk and we/I let you go. is it considerd smacktalk to flatly refuse to pay any ramsome by saying stuff like "I would rather die kissing space dust!" or "lol give it your best shot!", "you can kiss my bottom section!"
assume this is done right away with no attmet to stall and/or call in corp mates - basicly a colorfull version of the old 'i wont support terrorist' stance
No. When refusing to pay a ransom this is a good practice. Also be sure to add a similar line when you do decide to pay the pirate.
For example: "Ok, I'll pay up. But be sure to give half to your mother(/sister/girlfriend) because I still owe her big time."
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w1ldt4ngent
Heavy Metal Machine. Mostly Clueless
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Posted - 2010.07.30 06:36:00 -
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I'll let someone go if they're creative and make me laugh. Also, don't blame me, I was high when I wrote this.
Lex Alandar > you guys are nuts |
Aesheera
Amarr Hello Kitty Goes Commando
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Posted - 2010.07.30 07:10:00 -
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Wait, people actually interact with their targets and ask them for money? Shocking.
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Hanna Victory
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Posted - 2010.07.30 07:48:00 -
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Just refuse it, the number of people who do not honor ransoms far exceeds the number who do these days. |
Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.07.30 07:52:00 -
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Originally by: Paul Clavet
Originally by: Lana Torrin I believe the correct line is "I'll crush you with my main".
I always liked "We'll paste you in lowsec!"
Lana's is the best. I had one come at me in his main and that guy wiped the floor with me Signature locked for editing a moderator's warning. Zymurgist |
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Marko Riva
Adamant Inc.
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Posted - 2010.07.30 10:37:00 -
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"Why don't you come to <insert 0.0 system, full of carebear/renter blobs>!".
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Fumitsugu
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Posted - 2010.07.30 10:54:00 -
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Just offer them a haiku instead of a ransom:
You may pop my pod, But think of this, you bastard, I'm doing your wife.
Or a tanka, if you're confident:
You may pop my pod, But think of this, you bastard, I'm doing your wife, Who recently confided That pen1s size does matter, She says you have a mouse d1ck.
If you could crack one of them out during a ransom convo, I'm sure most pirates would let you go.
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Gladys Pank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.07.30 12:07:00 -
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You all fail because its... Eat my Guns.
Signature locked for inappropriate image. Zymurgist |
Goyda
Ignis et Ultio
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Posted - 2010.07.30 14:45:00 -
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Edited by: Goyda on 30/07/2010 14:46:30 I don't know why people refuse to pay. To think it will make piracy stop because you're 'not supporting terrorists' is lunacy. Not paying just gets you podded.
nice troll tho.
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Relettov
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Posted - 2010.07.30 14:47:00 -
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how about: "hey guys, can we reset this and start again? i had CAPS LOCK on and F1-F8 didn't work. i'll act surprised, promise."
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SFX Bladerunner
Minmatar Bite me inc. SRS.
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Posted - 2010.07.30 14:51:00 -
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Actions speak louder than words.
No need to communicate with someone trying to kill you, let your guns do the talking. __________________________________________________
History is much like an endless waltz, the three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever.. |
Owen Drakkar
Terra Nostra
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Posted - 2010.07.30 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: Gladys Pank You all fail because its... Eat my Guns.
Yay! Damn you for beating me. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Come shoot at me, I live in Heimatar. Please? |
Awesome Possum
Gallente Isk Relocation Services
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Posted - 2010.07.30 15:58:00 -
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To OP: that's not smacktalk, that's Role Playing. ♥
Wreck Disposal Services |
FOEHAMMER006
Macabre Votum
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Posted - 2010.07.30 16:02:00 -
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I gave your mom all of my money, sorry brah. --------------------------------
my posts reflect me. g0t w34d?
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Time2Whine
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Posted - 2010.07.30 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Goyda Edited by: Goyda on 30/07/2010 14:46:30 I don't know why people refuse to pay. To think it will make piracy stop because you're 'not supporting terrorists' is lunacy. Not paying just gets you podded.
nice troll tho.
Paying just gets you podded half of the time as well. If it's not a stupidly lowball offer or some recognizably reputable / roleplay pirate corp I'd rather just have a free trip back to my staging hangar than risk the inevitable convo from 14yos to gloat about both podding and scamming me. True story: I've never paid a ransom.
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Dr Sarcas
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Posted - 2010.07.30 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: Time2Whine
Paying just gets you podded half of the time as well. True story: I've never paid a ransom.
So you got podded half the time you did not pay the ransom?
No wait...
half the time you did pay the ransom... no wait...
Lots of first hand experience there...
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Epiphany Genesis
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Posted - 2010.07.30 17:57:00 -
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Eat my Guns!
I wouldn't eat your guns if they were made from Prime Rib and I was starving to death.
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Time2Whine
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Posted - 2010.07.30 19:04:00 -
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Edited by: Time2Whine on 30/07/2010 19:09:55
Originally by: Dr Sarcas
Originally by: Time2Whine
Paying just gets you podded half of the time as well. True story: I've never paid a ransom.
So you got podded half the time you did not pay the ransom?
No wait...
half the time you did pay the ransom... no wait...
Lots of first hand experience there...
Did you lick the burner for confirmation when your parents told you that the stove was hot?
There are plenty enough anecdotes around here for me to not desire personal experience.
You can copy my post into notepad and replace "half" with "an indeterminate portion" for convenience if your learning disability prevents you from interpreting figurative language.
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Dian'h Might
Minmatar Cash and Cargo Liberators Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.07.30 20:55:00 -
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Originally by: Time2Whine There are plenty enough anecdotes around here for me to not desire personal experience.
When trying to make logical decisions, anecdotal evidence, especially evidence from people who have emotional involvement in it, is no evidence at all. For every ransom dishonored story on C&P I could name you three people who would honor a ransom, but none of it is of any statistical or analytical use. - - - Dian'h Might - C&Ps resident "internet kleptomaniac" |
Tuggrok
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.07.31 00:08:00 -
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kiss my shiny metal ass. thanks Bender.
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Jamradar
Minmatar Hoplite Brigade
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Posted - 2010.07.31 12:03:00 -
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Edited by: Jamradar on 31/07/2010 12:03:10 "Dammit, I lost. Sorry I put up such a crapturd fight, and go ahead and kill me, I'm not gonna pay. Don't want to waste your time, but good luck hunting guys, fly dangerous! <3"
Is that smack enough?
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Makoto Kimagawa
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Posted - 2010.07.31 18:38:00 -
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Edited by: Makoto Kimagawa on 31/07/2010 18:39:34 The one i heard of, An orca in Lowsec taking stuff back to his WH, docked up in station and was then camped and convoed, and rather than lose his corps borrowed orca, gave the camping group his pos password and bookmark to the WH, and sat watching the pirates clear out about 20 sigil's worth of Arcanor... That was like stupid, If it was me i would have left the orca in the station and just gone back to the WH in a shuttle or something He lost millions just to save an orca he didnt need to take out of the station anyway.
BTW he was gonna take the hulk in and out, the orca was being used as a freighter and could have been left in the nearby highsec area.
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Ori Blake
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Posted - 2010.07.31 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Goyda Edited by: Goyda on 30/07/2010 14:46:30 I don't know why people refuse to pay. To think it will make piracy stop because you're 'not supporting terrorists' is lunacy. Not paying just gets you podded.
nice troll tho.
You can't trust them to honor ransoms anyways. If you lose a fight normally, your ship is wrecked and its a loss. I'm not compounding that loss through ISK transfers. Let them make their money off module drops or salvage.
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Ava Starfire
Minmatar Nordanverdr Modr
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Posted - 2010.07.31 22:22:00 -
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I never ransom ships; I blow them up. I ransom pods, if I can catch them, and I keep the price reasonable, as even if you have just set of +3s in, 20m is reasonable, and its 20m more than a killmail for your damn pod is worth.
Normally, I get replies of the form A) You better never come to XYZABC 0.0 system, B) Some insult regarding my ethics, or C) death threats.
Always good for giggles.
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Krecian
Gallente Essence of Decay Black Cartel.
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Posted - 2010.07.31 22:57:00 -
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Feh, too many people don't honor ransoms. Since I never fly something I can't afford to lose, I let them eat static on the comms and don't give them a penny out of my wallet. Scoop it up out of my wreck if your hard up for cash, I'm not giving you a penny. :D --------- "The first rock thrown again, welcome to hell little saint. Mother Gia in slaughter, welcome to paradise soldier." -Nightwish, Planet Hell |
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Ori Blake
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Posted - 2010.07.31 23:30:00 -
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Originally by: Ava Starfire I never ransom ships; I blow them up. I ransom pods, if I can catch them, and I keep the price reasonable, as even if you have just set of +3s in, 20m is reasonable, and its 20m more than a killmail for your damn pod is worth.
Normally, I get replies of the form A) You better never come to XYZABC 0.0 system, B) Some insult regarding my ethics, or C) death threats.
Always good for giggles.
If I ever get in a situation where a pirate tries to ransom my pod, I'd blow myself up for being stupid and eat the loss.
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Exogene
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Posted - 2010.08.02 09:05:00 -
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I miss the classic 'My corp/alliance will wardec you!!!'
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Tofus
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Posted - 2010.08.02 10:11:00 -
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Confirming this entire thread is considered smacktalk and will be dealt with accordingly!
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Fat Uncle
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Posted - 2010.08.02 10:15:00 -
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No quarter asked, no quarter given!
I'd probably reply along the line of: 'I gave all my ISK to the doctor to get rid of the VD I got from your mom.'.
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Boundless Faith
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Posted - 2010.08.02 10:58:00 -
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-d say: "give it to me baby, I've been waiting for you all night long!"
And then continue to not giev a crap.
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Sai Nunnie
LEGI0N SOUL CARTEL
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Posted - 2010.08.02 11:04:00 -
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Edited by: Sai Nunnie on 02/08/2010 11:04:44 Just carry around a Exotic Dancer in your cargo and if ransom is offered to you, eject the Dancer and say here ya go,,, Ya Skadoosh
Edit: Spelling
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Nemphtis
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Posted - 2010.08.02 11:55:00 -
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Just for the sake of participating in the discussion: I'd pretend I speak another language.
"I would appreciate ____ ISK, else I'll have no choice but to destroy your ship." "Ke?" "Do you sprekken zee English?" "Ke?"
I don't recommend saying "Ke?" actually, in case someone think it's short for 'okay' or something...
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lord xavier
Queens of the Stone Age
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Posted - 2010.08.02 12:03:00 -
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Just shoot 'til you die. Cause you will die anyways. No one has enough of this 'honor' thing, or even know what it means to honor a ransom. Biomass is free (of) Eve4life! |
Lederstrumpf
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Posted - 2010.08.02 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: Goyda I don't know why people refuse to pay.
Pride & honor.
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Nemphtis
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Posted - 2010.08.02 12:18:00 -
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Originally by: lord xavier Just shoot 'til you die. Cause you will die anyways. No one has enough of this 'honor' thing, or even know what it means to honor a ransom.
My plan, when I eventually got to pirating, was to just ask my victims a reasonable amount they can spare. This is mainly because I have no idea how to come up with a good price by looking at someone's character age, ship, cargo etc. So some money is better than no money, though I will ask for a minimum of 500,000ISK since that's how much it'd cost me to replace my ship and parts if I were to be destroyed.
Good plan? Probably not, but I'll give it a shot for the lulz at the very least.
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Shima Shin
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Posted - 2010.08.02 18:22:00 -
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I usually let them catch my pod so they can blow it up. I am too lazy to fly back to base and SP is under 900k anyway. They usually ask money for pod ransom. I just say "nah" and initiate self destruct. Sometimes they say something like "I like your style and let my pod go but that's not due to style or anything, they just do not want 20% sec status loss if their current status is not too bad. If it is under -5 they just shoot.
As for ransoms - never pay it. In 90% of cases they will not honor it. Just initiate self destruct to cut your losses
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Chib Ya
Minmatar Legio Prima Victrix
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Posted - 2010.08.02 18:38:00 -
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Edited by: Chib Ya on 02/08/2010 18:41:24 Isnt the self destruct like 2 mins long? So they will just pod u instead.
Amounts...well the older the char the more isk they prob have.
For a pod, ask em how much they think thier life is worth, if they are flying a faction fitted, faction crusier an they say they have 10mil isk....yea....right!
Ships, well start at around %50 ship value and see wat they say.
I honour ransoms neway.
And i have let ppl go before just cos of the smack, i had one guy who was so depressed sounding i actually gave him his ship value back, he was in a dessie i think and i was in a rifter, he was ratting in lowsec. I told him to go buy his ship an stay out of Low till he knows what he doing. -------------------------------------------
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Kaze Shin
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Posted - 2010.08.02 20:53:00 -
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Edited by: Kaze Shin on 02/08/2010 20:54:33 Initiating self destruct sends clear message "either shoot me or let me go...either way I do not care so stop wasting my time". Saves you from unnecessary typing. What can I say...I am lazy
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Jalabaster
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Posted - 2010.08.02 22:00:00 -
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I've not been held ransom yet, but I have my line ready...
"Mom, is that you?"
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Varesk
Gallente The Ancient 0rder
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Posted - 2010.08.02 22:01:00 -
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my favorite is...
"we are going to war dec you!"
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jimmyjam
Gallente Sinner Among Saints Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2010.08.02 22:54:00 -
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Offers of vent sex is allways nice or a lil song.I would let someone go for that. Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Adida |
captain foivos
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Posted - 2010.08.03 00:00:00 -
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I'll crush you with my main!
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Bane Loppknow
Pel Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.03 00:00:00 -
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I prefer to work movie quotes into my refusal... such as: "Suck one, time masheen costs 20 billion."
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Praphe
Minmatar Somnium Vita Hitchhikers Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.03 02:28:00 -
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Originally by: Sai Nunnie Edited by: Sai Nunnie on 02/08/2010 11:04:44 Just carry around a Exotic Dancer in your cargo and if ransom is offered to you, eject the Dancer and say here ya go,,, Ya Skadoosh
Edit: Spelling
Best one yet!
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.03 02:56:00 -
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I have started to carry around units of fertilizer so I can eject it at the enemy if this ever happens to me.. Tell them what I REALLY think of them..
(Also its great on a loss mail because you get to tell people it was just a ****fit anyway)
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Sai Nunnie
LEGI0N SOUL CARTEL
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Posted - 2010.08.03 03:39:00 -
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Originally by: Praphe
Originally by: Sai Nunnie Edited by: Sai Nunnie on 02/08/2010 11:04:44 Just carry around a Exotic Dancer in your cargo and if ransom is offered to you, eject the Dancer and say here ya go,,, Ya Skadoosh
Edit: Spelling
Best one yet!
There is anoth way to, you carry a Janitor and as above eject Janitor and if they say wtf is this. You say he will help you clean up my wreck Ya Skadoosh
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Shaky Spillcus
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.08.16 02:21:00 -
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Originally by: Sai Nunnie
Originally by: Praphe
Originally by: Sai Nunnie Edited by: Sai Nunnie on 02/08/2010 11:04:44 Just carry around a Exotic Dancer in your cargo and if ransom is offered to you, eject the Dancer and say here ya go,,, Ya Skadoosh
Edit: Spelling
Best one yet!
There is anoth way to, you carry a Janitor and as above eject Janitor and if they say wtf is this. You say he will help you clean up my wreck Ya Skadoosh
I was told when I started playing to carry a Dancer in my bay, I asked why and was told when the time comes you will know. Hehehe I guess i know now.
I heard one a few months back that I thought would be pretty good. There was a Russian child who told his US foster parents: I burn you, on fire!!
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Mel Lifera
Gallente Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.08.16 02:32:00 -
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Originally by: Varesk my favorite is...
"we are going to war dec you!"
Partial to "I will knock on the gates of Valhalla with the skulls of your children (in game)!!!", myself.
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guska Cryotank
Gallente Void Angels Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.08.16 03:08:00 -
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If my pod has been caught in lowsec, is because I genuinly screwed up, and deserve to lose it. I'll generally cough up a few mil, as a 'congrats on catching a pod in lowsec' and then let them send me home.
Actually I've paid ransoms on the condition that they pod me.
"10mil and we'll let you go" "I'll only pay if you promise to pod me"
No, this is NOT common, and no I won't be offering that any time soon
Originally by: One of many spanks I don't speak Chinese but if my picnic cutlery snapped I wouldn't expect the manufacturers to offer English support when my birthday party is RUINED.
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Picadilly
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Posted - 2010.08.16 03:52:00 -
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Originally by: Awesome Possum To OP: that's not smacktalk, that's Role Playing.
I'm surprised how little imagination ppl have when smacking. There are so many words you can chain for great effect.
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.16 03:55:00 -
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Originally by: Picadilly
Originally by: Awesome Possum To OP: that's not smacktalk, that's Role Playing.
I'm surprised how little imagination ppl have when smacking. There are so many words you can chain for great effect.
I find swearing in caps and adding the occasional none swear word in the middle for effect works great. Obviously I cant post an example here as the word filter would explode.
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Daergaar
Caldari Yama Seki
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Posted - 2010.08.16 05:36:00 -
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I was once a year ago ganked at a gate camp flying my PvE Drake with T1 modules in 0.4 space by a fleet of 6 battleships and an interceptor which had been damaged by someone else shortly before. It hadn't been repped yet. During the convo while I was in the convo for the ransom, I said "Enjoy your 9000 Scourge Heavy Missiles!" and fired two volleys at the inty. It popped just after I did because the missiles were still in flight.
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Lillith Starfire
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Posted - 2010.08.16 08:44:00 -
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Why give them the satisfaction? It's a lost cause? All guns fire! Podded or no, remain silent. You've just deprived them of the most important part.
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Kars Vandor
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Posted - 2010.08.18 18:16:00 -
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I have said in the past, "Before you shoot, I just got one question...'What is your favorite Childhood memory?'"
I have also (when a new guy) said "WTF, I was carrying T.V. Dinners?!?!?" [To a Trio of sniggerdly at Amamake]
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DeBingJos
Minmatar Mansion of maniacal experiments Outer Heaven
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Posted - 2010.08.23 09:03:00 -
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ok, I'll pay. AFK a couple of mins for a new beer. brb.
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