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Shadowsword
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Posted - 2004.12.21 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: blood red why do people think you need a webber and a scrambler to be pvp?
I always use a web to prevent an inty to orbit me at really close range (500m-1km) where I couldn't ripost due to tracking issues. But with the recent propulsion changes, I'm not so sure anymore that it's necessary. I'll have to test out a little more. As for the disruptor of my setup, You can't kill an inty in a single salvo, so if you can force it to break off first before warping, you will probably be able to land of 2 or 3 salvoes, which will probably at least cripple it.
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Shadowsword
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Posted - 2004.12.21 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: blood red why do people think you need a webber and a scrambler to be pvp?
I always use a web to prevent an inty to orbit me at really close range (500m-1km) where I couldn't ripost due to tracking issues. But with the recent propulsion changes, I'm not so sure anymore that it's necessary. I'll have to test out a little more. As for the disruptor of my setup, You can't kill an inty in a single salvo, so if you can force it to break off first before warping, you will probably be able to land of 2 or 3 salvoes, which will probably at least cripple it.
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Xavier Cardde
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Posted - 2004.12.21 22:17:00 -
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still it begs the question
scrambler or disrupter is needed for SURE...
however go with the webber or go with the MWD?
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Xavier Cardde
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Posted - 2004.12.21 22:17:00 -
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still it begs the question
scrambler or disrupter is needed for SURE...
however go with the webber or go with the MWD?
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Soulhunter
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Posted - 2005.01.19 20:29:00 -
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... why not Small Neutron Blaster II? With this weapons, close range and a little bid time, you can fight against 2 BS and 4 Cruiser (NPC) to the same time ... - only you and your ENYO. I love this ship
And in PvP ... why use all only Rails?
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HostageTaker
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Posted - 2005.01.19 20:38:00 -
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/laughs at these setups
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slothe
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Posted - 2005.01.19 20:56:00 -
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Edited by: slothe on 19/01/2005 20:56:50 my support setup (assuming your with other ships)
4x150mm rails standard launcher
afterburner cap recharger
t2 repairer ex active hardner thermic plating mag stabiliser 2
you can only fit a tackler setup effectively on an ishkur, but thats another story
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Papermate
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Posted - 2005.01.19 21:04:00 -
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Med slots: 1mn abII(500m/sec+)+ 1 webber.
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siim
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Posted - 2005.01.19 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: blood red why do people think you need a webber and a scrambler to be pvp? anyways, i run
4 ion 2, 1 nos, 1mn ab2, web, small repairer, energized adaptive 2, mag stab 2, pdu 2.
and get someone else to scramble, but if an interceptor comes in web range he will be vapor in 2 seconds, cause thats what it takes to fire 2 volleys.
and this ship can tank a thorax pretty easily, and i made a scorpion run once.
simple...
that sucks
Crow will orbit you all day and kill you
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Shayla Sh'inlux
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Posted - 2005.01.19 21:40:00 -
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Quote:
simple...
that sucks
Crow will orbit you all day and kill you
Don't be so sure about that. I was NPC hunting the other day with a blaster setup and I got caught by a crow pirating. He did the scramble/web thing and demanded 10 mil IIRC.
I told him to suck it up and tanked his missiles for over 10 minutes until he finally ran out of ammo and gave up.
That said, I've been playing around some more with setups and with the new propulsion changes, using blasters actually becomes viable. I'm currently fitted with modal neutrons, but have ample grid and cpu left for tech II. With the Assault frig's range bonus, I can get to 5000m optimal plus some 3000m falloff. That's quite a lot of range for a blaster. Sure you'll be shooting iron, but hey, how often DO you end up webbed vs something that is faster than you and like more than 8km optimal.
High: 4x Neutron, Standard Launcher (or rocket launcher) Mid: tech II AB, Scrambler (or webber, I prefer a webber) Low: Micro Core, Mag Stab II, Small repper, Cap Relay (or hardner, or tracking enhancer)
Works like a charm in PvE on top of it and has quite some PvP kills under its belt, including another Enyo and a Prophecy (although I was with a mate in a Malediction).
This thing has absolutely gorgeous DPS, especially with Antimatter. I prefer Lead Ammo for PvE (gets the optimal to 3200 m I believe) and with good cap skills you can run everything for a *long* time.
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Alex Harumichi
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Posted - 2005.01.19 23:08:00 -
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My semi-standard setup:
high: 4 x 125mm II, named rocket (defenders/rockets) med: named webber, 1mn AB II low: small armor rep II, cpr, nano membrane II, magfield stab II
Tanks well, nice damage. I've soloed 750k bs + support spawns with this. Should work pretty nicely in pvp, too, though haven't tested that yet.
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Hamatitio
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Posted - 2005.01.20 00:09:00 -
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Edited by: Hamatitio on 20/01/2005 00:09:19 Mines a lot like 3rd poster.
4x 125 2 1x Standard launcher w/ Pir.
1x disruptor 1x web
1x small armor rep 2 1x Energized thermic (Or a second reactive, depending on sit) 1x Energized Reactive 1x Cap relay...or it might have been a pdu...lol I forget :( --
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Mao TseTung
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Posted - 2005.01.22 03:18:00 -
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LvL 3 Mission Setup
2X 125mm Rails 2X 150mm Rails 1X Rocket Launcher w/ Defenders
1X Webifier 1X 1mn ABII
1X Energized Reactive (T2) 1X Adaptive Nano (T2) 2x Small Armor Repairer ---------
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Jona Mae
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Posted - 2005.01.22 03:35:00 -
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4x 125mm Prototype (Antimatter) 1x Arbalest Standard (Explosive)
1x T2 Cap Battery 1x Afterburner
1x T2 small armor repairer 1x T2 Energized Reactive 1x T2 Energized Thermal 1x Capacitor Power Relay
Orbit @ 12km and any frigate, cruiser or assault will have a tough time. The enyo is vulerable to explosive damage wich can become problematic against a caracal.
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Odet
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Posted - 2005.01.28 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: HostageTaker /laughs at these setups
worst setups ever..... my suggestion is find a good one on your own, keep it to yourself.
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Sangxianc
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Posted - 2005.01.30 12:36:00 -
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Edited by: Sangxianc on 30/01/2005 12:42:13 My NPC (Serpentis) setup:
4x Light Ion Blaster II QE-5200 Rocket Launcher 1mn AB II x5 Prototype 1 Engine Enervator Small Armour Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Cap Power Relay
This is the biggest spawn I have found, I managed. It was: Guardian Commodore (1.5M) Guardian Elder (1M) 3x Guardian Defender (25k)
First I blew up the Defenders, then the Elder, then the Commodore. Killing the Commodore took a while though, because I only had defenders in my rocket launcher. You have to take some defenders though, because when you're double webbed and have the two battleships shooting you, it's good not to have to worry about cruise missiles. Interestingly, the next time i ran upon this spawn, the Commodore died more easily, so maybe it was just bad luck. With Foxfires, I think I could have killed the Commodore much quicker.
Defenders are also handy incase you get attacked by a player. Once a Hawk and a Caracal shot at me, but I just spammed defenders like there was no tomorrow and flew to the stargate, then found out I wasn't allowed through because I'd shot back, waited 20 seconds, tried again, and jumped.
As for real PvP, I don't do it that much. I fought a Harpy once, but we got bored after about 4 minutes because we couldn't hurt eachother. He told me later that he had a Gistii A-type shield booster though, and that he would have died easily with only a normal one, so I am confident I could kill one. Again, I only had defenders. If I was expecting PvP I would bring Gremlins.
I think I would take 125mm Rails if I was looking for PvP, because otherwise I'm afraid an Interceptor would orbit me at 5km+ and kill me eventually. Also, I'd swap the damage mod for an Energized Reactive Membrane, because everyone knows that Enyos are crappy against explosive damage. I will try it out in more PvP some time soon, because I have a spare one in my hangar, and a spare Ishkur.
The repairer and weapons don't run indefinately together, but they go for long enough to keep me alive. I load the blasters with Plutonium.
- Any man's death diminishes me, as I am involved in mankinde; And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee. |
Neon Genesis
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Posted - 2005.01.30 15:47:00 -
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Edited by: Neon Genesis on 28/02/2005 23:14:49 pvp:
4x 150mm 2 1x standard launcher
1x x5 web 1x cap rehcarger
1x small rep 2 1x active explosive hard 2x cap relays
With this setup i have stomped on anything i hav met, dont think ther is a better one for solo personally. __
There, i just contributed nothing to your thread
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Sangxianc
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Posted - 2005.01.30 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: Neon Genesis pvp:
4x 150mm 2 1x standard launcher
1x x5 web 1x cap rehcarger
1x med rep 2 1x active explosive hard 2x cap relays
With this setup i have stomped on anything i hav met, dont think ther is a better one for solo personally.
Do the 150mm's hit interceptors?
- Any man's death diminishes me, as I am involved in mankinde; And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee. |
kessah
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Posted - 2005.01.31 16:49:00 -
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ok ive got
4x 125mm rails 1 rocket.
1xweb 1xt2ab
1xexplosive active hardener 1xnano mem 1xsmall rep t2 1xcap-relay
its sorta a combo of all the idea's here - its a pvp'in set-up
wanted to put a mag stab t2 but i dun think i wana scarifice cap recharge -------------------------------------------------------- Im Your Huckleberry ;-)
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Harlequin01
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Posted - 2005.01.31 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Sangxianc
Originally by: Neon Genesis pvp:
4x 150mm 2 1x standard launcher
1x x5 web 1x cap rehcarger
1x med rep 2 1x active explosive hard 2x cap relays
With this setup i have stomped on anything i hav met, dont think ther is a better one for solo personally.
Do the 150mm's hit interceptors?
With the web, they should.
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HatePeace LoveWar
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Posted - 2005.02.11 04:07:00 -
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Originally by: Neon Genesis pvp:
4x 150mm 2 1x standard launcher
1x x5 web 1x cap rehcarger
1x med rep 2 1x active explosive hard 2x cap relays
With this setup i have stomped on anything i hav met, dont think ther is a better one for solo personally.
150mm and a medium rep II?
Does that even fit on the enyo?
Honest question btw, as ive not got around to buying one yet.
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Cobalt Wyvern
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Posted - 2005.02.11 04:34:00 -
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Edited by: Cobalt Wyvern on 11/02/2005 04:36:54 This is a PvE setup. For PVP I'd suggest the previous rail setups for PvE I find that blasters rock. I've killed a 2.5mil Serpentis BS Spawn and Escorts with this:
HI 4 T2 Light Neutron Blasters 1 Named Rocket Launcher
MEDIUM 1 T2 1mn AB 1 Named Tracking Mod
LOW 1 T2 Small Armour Repairer 1 T2 Mag. Stabalizer 1 Cap Power Relay 1 Micro Power Aux
Use Antimatter and switch to Uranium or Irridium if your cap is getting low. Keep defenders on hand if you are having problems with missiles.
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Kunming
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Posted - 2005.02.11 08:08:00 -
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Use blasters only if you are not flying solo, like others said even a ceptor can take you out.
In a group a frigate is rarely primary target, so u can lurk up to ur target and do alot of dmg with blasters. Its a great ship to take out support craft, fit an MWD with light ions, you'll be hopping from cruiser to cruiser, though cruisers are a rare sight these days. So best to fit rails and use it as anti-ceptor ship.
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xEntriq
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Posted - 2005.02.11 09:52:00 -
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Originally by: slothe Edited by: slothe on 19/01/2005 20:56:50 my support setup (assuming your with other ships)
4x150mm rails standard launcher
afterburner cap recharger
t2 repairer ex active hardner thermic plating mag stabiliser 2
you can only fit a tackler setup effectively on an ishkur, but thats another story
So how do you fit all of that stuff? Do you have any PG or CPU shortages?
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2005.02.11 09:59:00 -
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Originally by: xEntriq
Originally by: slothe Edited by: slothe on 19/01/2005 20:56:50 my support setup (assuming your with other ships)
4x150mm rails standard launcher
afterburner cap recharger
t2 repairer ex active hardner thermic plating mag stabiliser 2
you can only fit a tackler setup effectively on an ishkur, but thats another story
So how do you fit all of that stuff? Do you have any PG or CPU shortages?
I tried to fit four 150mm rails and I didnŠt have the grid or the cpu for it. __________ Capacitor research |
Tiwaz
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Posted - 2005.02.11 11:24:00 -
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only 1 cap thingy will will not last in a longer fight with another l33t frig IMO.
currently i use
High 4x 125mmT2 high 1x rocket launcer med Small T2 batt med 20km disruptor low small rep low 2xhardners(passive) low cap relay
Find it to be a good tank and i can run everything forever and ever. Abit slow, but if u travel by instas, it does matter much
There is no innocence, only degrees of guilt. Only we are Righteous.
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Myko
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Posted - 2005.02.28 22:46:00 -
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my lvl 3 agent mission setup (electronics and engineering at 5)
3 x t2 150mm (antimatter) t2 125mm (antimatter) rocket launcher w/ defenders 1mn ab (named) cap recharger (named) mag stab II small inefficent armour rep energised adaptive nano cap power relay I (named)
if only i had another 2 PG, id be able to fit 4 x t2 150mm...but i'm pretty sure there is no way i can get that 2 pg without sacrificing something
231.5 wrecking shot with a 150mm...orbiting at 10km
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Neon Genesis
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Posted - 2005.02.28 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: HatePeace LoveWar
Originally by: Neon Genesis pvp:
4x 150mm 2 1x standard launcher
1x x5 web 1x cap rehcarger
1x med rep 2 1x active explosive hard 2x cap relays
With this setup i have stomped on anything i hav met, dont think ther is a better one for solo personally.
150mm and a medium rep II?
Does that even fit on the enyo?
Honest question btw, as ive not got around to buying one yet.
lol nah ofc not, honest typo meant small t2 of course. __
There, i just contributed nothing to your thread
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Jeni Silver
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Posted - 2005.03.01 00:00:00 -
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How about:
4x 125mm T2 Rails (AM) 1x Rocket Lnchr (Foxfires / Defenders)
1x 1mn AB 1x Web
1x S Armor Rep 1x Energized Reactive Plate 1x Cap Realy 1x Mag Field T2
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Gary Goat
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Posted - 2005.03.01 01:48:00 -
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I notice a lot of people are using energized reative plates when they could fit a 50% active explosive hardner. You need electronics, engineering and weapons upgrades all at V though. Mabey you could do it with weapons upgrades IV but not sure.
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