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Kathleen Nolan
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.24 17:29:00 -
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hi ok, so I've been doing some research Ii want a carrier in .5 or above,I need to make it myself. POS in hisec is possible? what'ss ccp stance on hisec caps, or does it rely on usage? |
Lilliana Stelles
Mindstar Technology Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.07.24 17:35:00 -
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It can't be done anymore. The ones that exist now have been there for years. |
Xercodo
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
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Posted - 2012.07.24 17:36:00 -
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The only caps allowed in high sec are ones that were built there LONG ago. There are no facilities available in high sec that can construct capitals and the ones used at POSes can't be anchored in high sec.
Capitals can only travel via WH or jump drive with a cyno at the destination and all high sec system are "cyno jammed" so getting an existing cap into high sec is also not possible. The Drake is a Lie |
Kathleen Nolan
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.24 17:36:00 -
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Lilliana Stelles wrote:It can't be done anymore. The ones that exist now have been there for years. is the cap construction module not allowed? or something else?
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Lilliana Stelles
Mindstar Technology Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.07.24 17:41:00 -
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Kathleen Nolan wrote:Lilliana Stelles wrote:It can't be done anymore. The ones that exist now have been there for years. is the cap construction module not allowed? or something else?
Cap construction modules aren't needed for making caps in the first place. An xlarge or npc station can do that. You literally just can't assemble them in high sec. |
Xercodo
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
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Posted - 2012.07.24 17:58:00 -
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Lilliana Stelles wrote:Kathleen Nolan wrote:Lilliana Stelles wrote:It can't be done anymore. The ones that exist now have been there for years. is the cap construction module not allowed? or something else? Cap construction modules aren't needed for making caps in the first place. An xlarge or npc station can do that. You literally just can't assemble them in high sec.
Yeah I think that's what she meant...
The capital assembly array is the super massive one used to build super capitals such as an Erebus or a Nyx. The X-Large assembly array can be used to build rorquals, carriers, dreadnaughts, and freighters.
Neither of these two POS modules can be anchored in highsec. NPC stations in high sec are also incapable of build capitals but low sec NPC stations can. The Drake is a Lie |
Kathleen Nolan
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.24 18:37:00 -
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so at this point all I can do is look for a Thanatos for sale in Motsu? |
mxzf
Blackened Skies
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Posted - 2012.07.24 19:03:00 -
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Kathleen Nolan wrote:so at this point all I can do is look for a Thanatos for sale in Motsu?
If there is one, it'll run you a few billion ISK because it'll be a collectors item. And if you do acquire one, you can pretty much only use it for mining. Using a highsec capital for PvP or PvE (including missions) will result in a GM teleporting you to a random low/null system.
If you want to use a carrier in missions, you have to go to low/null, there's no way around it. I know it sounds like an uber mission boat to you, but you just can't use it in highsec (most lvl 4s are gated anyways, which means you could only get it into a tiny fraction of them to begin with). If you're looking to upgrade your highsec mission boat, switch to a pirate BS or a marauder instead. |
Fidelium Mortis
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.07.24 19:04:00 -
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Kathleen Nolan wrote:so at this point all I can do is look for a Thanatos for sale in Motsu?
I wouldn't hold your breath, there's only a few caps in all of high-sec and there isn't much of a chance that the owners will be selling them anytime soon. What are you planning on doing with it anyway? You really can't run missions with one, and they would be very limited in high-sec PvP. ICRS - Intergalactic Certified Rocket Surgeon |
Xercodo
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
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Posted - 2012.07.24 19:04:00 -
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Kathleen Nolan wrote:so at this point all I can do is look for a Thanatos for sale in Motsu?
And in all likely hood there isn't one. If you DO happen to find one it's probably going for the price of a titan. High sec caps are VERY rare.... you're better off trying to buy a Guardian-Vexor or something.
I have also heard that the owners of the "grandfather caps" aren't allowed to sell them, but I haven't been able to confirm it.
Even after all of that, you find a person selling the carrier you want and you have the 100 billion to buy it, CCP has rules in places to prevent you from actually using a cap in high sec. The grandfather caps are meant to be little moving bits of history. If you are caught using it for any actual combat then it will be removed form high sec, never to return. Besides his veldspar obsession, this is why Chribba's Revelation in Amarr only can mine. The Drake is a Lie |
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Lilliana Stelles
Mindstar Technology Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.07.24 19:09:00 -
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Kathleen Nolan wrote:so at this point all I can do is look for a Thanatos for sale in Motsu? I thin you're going about this the wrong way, The best solution would be to move to low or null if you want a Thanatos. There, you can even run missions in it if you so desired. |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2012.07.24 20:50:00 -
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From https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=6372
CCP Spitfire wrote:Sales of capital ships in high sec are hereby prohibited, be it on the regular market or through the contract system. |
Xercodo
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
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Posted - 2012.07.24 21:22:00 -
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What about dropping it in space un-piloted in exchange for a "donation"? xD The Drake is a Lie |
J'Poll
Pioneer's of the Galantic Wars Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2012.07.24 21:33:00 -
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Kathleen Nolan wrote:hi ok, so I've been doing some research Ii want a carrier in .5 or above,I need to make it myself. POS in hisec is possible? what'ss ccp stance on hisec caps, or does it rely on usage?
If you didn't know that capitals (with the exception of the orca and (jump)freighters) are bound to low-sec/null/WH. You don't belong to have one. Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.24 21:33:00 -
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Secret trade! With CCP none the wiser!
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Lyric Lahnder
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2012.07.25 13:19:00 -
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YOU CANNOT USE CAPITAL SHIPS IN HIGHSEC
THAT IS ALL. Noir. and Noir Academy are recruiting apply at www.noirmercs.comI Noir Academy: 60 days old must be able to fly at least one tech II frigate. I Noir. Recruits: 4:1 k/d ratio and can fly tech II cruisers. |
Moonlit Raid
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.25 16:44:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:Kathleen Nolan wrote:hi ok, so I've been doing some research Ii want a carrier in .5 or above,I need to make it myself. POS in hisec is possible? what'ss ccp stance on hisec caps, or does it rely on usage? If you didn't know that capitals (with the exception of the orca and (jump)freighters) are bound to low-sec/null/WH. You don't belong to have one. Nice grammar, and why not, if they have the isk to buy one why shouldn't they own one? |
J'Poll
Pioneer's of the Galantic Wars Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2012.07.25 18:00:00 -
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Moonlit Raid wrote:J'Poll wrote:Kathleen Nolan wrote:hi ok, so I've been doing some research Ii want a carrier in .5 or above,I need to make it myself. POS in hisec is possible? what'ss ccp stance on hisec caps, or does it rely on usage? If you didn't know that capitals (with the exception of the orca and (jump)freighters) are bound to low-sec/null/WH. You don't belong to have one. Nice grammar, and why not, if they have the isk to buy one why shouldn't they own one?
Because any pilot who wants a capital usually did some research and already knows that they can't be used in high-sec.
With this question I can only imagine the second the OP finds out a carrier can't use normal gates and gets ganked on it. Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction |
Moonlit Raid
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.25 19:14:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:Moonlit Raid wrote:J'Poll wrote:Kathleen Nolan wrote:hi ok, so I've been doing some research Ii want a carrier in .5 or above,I need to make it myself. POS in hisec is possible? what'ss ccp stance on hisec caps, or does it rely on usage? If you didn't know that capitals (with the exception of the orca and (jump)freighters) are bound to low-sec/null/WH. You don't belong to have one. Nice grammar, and why not, if they have the isk to buy one why shouldn't they own one? Because any pilot who wants a capital usually did some research and already knows that they can't be used in high-sec. With this question I can only imagine the second the OP finds out a carrier can't use normal gates and gets ganked on it. So? their lighter wallet and vacant hangar will be all the explanation they need.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.26 09:09:00 -
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Lyric Lahnder wrote:YOU CANNOT USE CAPITAL SHIPS IN HIGHSEC
THAT IS ALL. Depends on your definition of use, as I have no problem at all using my caps in high-sec.
/c
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Zicon Shak'ra
Vacuo Anomalia
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Posted - 2012.07.26 15:52:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Lyric Lahnder wrote:YOU CANNOT USE CAPITAL SHIPS IN HIGHSEC
THAT IS ALL. Depends on your definition of use, as I have no problem at all using my caps in high-sec. /c
The Veldnaught strikes again. |
J'Poll
Pioneer's of the Galantic Wars Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2012.07.26 15:58:00 -
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Moonlit Raid wrote:J'Poll wrote:Moonlit Raid wrote:J'Poll wrote:Kathleen Nolan wrote:hi ok, so I've been doing some research Ii want a carrier in .5 or above,I need to make it myself. POS in hisec is possible? what'ss ccp stance on hisec caps, or does it rely on usage? If you didn't know that capitals (with the exception of the orca and (jump)freighters) are bound to low-sec/null/WH. You don't belong to have one. Nice grammar, and why not, if they have the isk to buy one why shouldn't they own one? Because any pilot who wants a capital usually did some research and already knows that they can't be used in high-sec. With this question I can only imagine the second the OP finds out a carrier can't use normal gates and gets ganked on it. So? their lighter wallet and vacant hangar will be all the explanation they need.
Nope, just common sense and actually effort to search things.
I know before I flew any of my ships I looked up as much info as I could. And any info you look up on capitals (Carriers, Rorquals, Dreadnoughts, and the big stuff) it clearly states it's < 0.5 only. Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction |
Moonlit Raid
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.26 17:24:00 -
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J'Poll wrote: Nope, just common sense and actually effort to search things.
I know before I flew any of my ships I looked up as much info as I could. And any info you look up on capitals (Carriers, Rorquals, Dreadnoughts, and the big stuff) it clearly states it's < 0.5 only.
And if someone flies one of these ships il-equipped with knowledge, that's their problem, and completely up to them. How does it affect you if a nyx turns up at a jump gate trying to jump into high sec? |
J'Poll
Pioneer's of the Galantic Wars Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2012.07.26 19:37:00 -
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Moonlit Raid wrote:J'Poll wrote: Nope, just common sense and actually effort to search things.
I know before I flew any of my ships I looked up as much info as I could. And any info you look up on capitals (Carriers, Rorquals, Dreadnoughts, and the big stuff) it clearly states it's < 0.5 only.
And if someone flies one of these ships il-equipped with knowledge, that's their problem, and completely up to them. How does it affect you if a nyx turns up at a jump gate trying to jump into high sec?
A lot.
I have to quickly grab a HIC with scripted point. Then point the Nyx and in the mean while make some batphones.
All of that is hard work. Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction |
Mordiggian ZulBhaSair
Last Exit For The Lost Dark Therapy
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Posted - 2012.07.26 20:07:00 -
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I mistakenly jumped my freighter into low sec. Those 13km back to gate with the big whale formed thing were the longest in game so far. And (jump)freighters are the only caps you can buy that are allowed in both high and low sec. |
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