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Xanos Blackpaw
Amarr Inadeptus Mechanicus
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Posted - 2010.08.09 10:35:00 -
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I'm not complaining here but is it really worth the trouble?
I mean i had one visit me while mining last night and he got away with a bestowers worth of ore, say about 10km3.
By the time he got back i had already moved the rest of my cans to the station.
It just seem like very low isk/hour. Or is it just something to do when opportunity show itself?
Do you cruise around looking for miners?
Are there people people who specialize in this?
How do this stuff work...
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Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
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Posted - 2010.08.09 10:41:00 -
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Originally by: Xanos Blackpaw I'm not complaining here
That's when I stopped reading.
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Xanos Blackpaw
Amarr Inadeptus Mechanicus
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Posted - 2010.08.09 10:42:00 -
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Originally by: Halcyon Ingenium
Originally by: Xanos Blackpaw I'm not complaining here
That's when I stopped reading.
No, really. I'm just curious... ________________________________________________ Tau - Yeah we suck in close combat. To bad you will never get there. For the greater good!!
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Skippermonkey
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.08.09 10:49:00 -
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Its such a nice feeling to know that the ore sitting in my can was lovingly mined by another person, and that they gets none.
But hey, if you want it back, by all means take it from that yellow can floating in front of you.
Originally by: CCP Capslock
OH GOD THE TESTING
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Richard Christy
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Posted - 2010.08.09 10:50:00 -
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The do it for 1 reason; in the hope that you shoot them. Same with ninja-salvaging. Just don't play their little games, it's easy enough.
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Atticus Fynch
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.08.09 10:53:00 -
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some players get off by just being *******s too.
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Avaan Eclipse
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.09 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: Xanos Blackpaw say about 10km3.
So about a million freighter loads, then? I'd say it was worth it
(for reference: 10km^3 is 10,000*10,000*10,000=1,000,000,000,000 m^3)
Yes, I know you meant 10 000 m^3, but still
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Xanos Blackpaw
Amarr Inadeptus Mechanicus
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Posted - 2010.08.09 11:03:00 -
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Originally by: Avaan Eclipse
Originally by: Xanos Blackpaw say about 10km3.
So about a million freighter loads, then? I'd say it was worth it
(for reference: 10km^3 is 10,000*10,000*10,000=1,000,000,000,000 m^3)
Yes, I know you meant 10 000 m^3, but still
If he could stuff that much into a bestower, he would be welcome to take it!
Then again....i'm not sure i could mine that much without getting a stroke ________________________________________________ Tau - Yeah we suck in close combat. To bad you will never get there. For the greater good!!
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Relettov
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Posted - 2010.08.09 11:05:00 -
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Originally by: Richard Christy The do it for 1 reason; in the hope that you shoot them. Same with ninja-salvaging. Just don't play their little games, it's easy enough.
Dunno about the ore thieves, but for ninja salvagers, this certainly isn't true in all instances. Grabbing salvage is very profitable if done right.
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Portia Augustus
Terminal Impact
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Posted - 2010.08.09 11:29:00 -
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Edited by: Portia Augustus on 09/08/2010 11:31:02
Originally by: Xanos Blackpaw I'm not complaining here but is it really worth the trouble?
It's not about ISK or anything more complicated than having a little fun with the short bus kids of EvE. In the long run, flipping their cans teaches them a few valuable lessons about how to survive in EvE... if anything, they should be paying me for the valuable education, rather than worrying about how much ISK they lost from any particular can.
Most of the time, I'll flip the can and blow it up so they can see the error of their ways. I don't honestly care what's inside.
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Xanos Blackpaw
Amarr Inadeptus Mechanicus
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Posted - 2010.08.09 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Portia Augustus Edited by: Portia Augustus on 09/08/2010 11:31:02
Originally by: Xanos Blackpaw I'm not complaining here but is it really worth the trouble?
It's not about ISK or anything more complicated than having a little fun with the short bus kids of EvE. In the long run, flipping their cans teaches them a few valuable lessons about how to survive in EvE... if anything, they should be paying me for the valuable education, rather than worrying about how much ISK they lost from any particular can.
Most of the time, I'll flip the can and blow it up so they can see the error of their ways. I don't honestly care what's inside.
I'm not talking about flipping cans, i get that. I do that from time to time to!
Its the taking all of the stuff that you can fit in your hold and then running for it that i dont get... ________________________________________________ Tau - Yeah we suck in close combat. To bad you will never get there. For the greater good!!
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Bluefix
Gnu Terror Corps
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Posted - 2010.08.09 12:44:00 -
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I used to be an ore thief. At the time the income was pretty decent (considering I was fairly poor) and it is more fun than most pve activities.
Answer to the questions: 1)I never cared for isk/hour. Where's the fun in that? 2)Yes you look in the most busy systems/where you know there's miners. 3)If there's such a thing as being specialized in it, I probably was.
I never did can flipping, but if I was attacked I would return with a stronger ship. Could get pretty ugly for myself sometimes
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Abdiel Kavash
Caldari Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.08.09 12:51:00 -
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Originally by: Avaan Eclipse
Originally by: Xanos Blackpaw say about 10km3.
So about a million freighter loads, then? I'd say it was worth it
(for reference: 10km^3 is 10,000*10,000*10,000=1,000,000,000,000 m^3)
Yes, I know you meant 10 000 m^3, but still
1 km^3 = 1,000,000,000 m^3 10 km^3 = 10,000,000,000 m^3
Unless you mean (10km)^3 which is... weird. When you say 10m^3 you don't mean (10m)^3, which is 1,000 m^3. You mean 10 m^3. ___________ EVE is dying! Now for real! |
Richard Christy
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Posted - 2010.08.09 12:52:00 -
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Originally by: Relettov
Originally by: Richard Christy The do it for 1 reason; in the hope that you shoot them. Same with ninja-salvaging. Just don't play their little games, it's easy enough.
Dunno about the ore thieves, but for ninja salvagers, this certainly isn't true in all instances. Grabbing salvage is very profitable if done right.
Assuming ninja salvagers are purely out for the salvage, there are far better ways to get salvage (and loot) than by probing people.
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Alcarne Xero
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Posted - 2010.08.09 12:59:00 -
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This is assuming that players all want to play nicely and together, like one big kindergarten.
it probably is worth it, because at the end of the day, they've been doing something else for however much time it took you to mine, and they're basically getting paid for doing nothing.
Eve is full of jerks, and just be glad you didn't get flipped.
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Darth StickyFingers
Black Opz Socius Inter Nos
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Posted - 2010.08.09 13:32:00 -
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Wow. Ive never seen so much math fail before. 10km3 = 10,000 m3. less than half of 1 jet can.
Everybody here is taking the 10,000 to the power of 3 and its not. The capacity is cubic meters, not 10k cubed.
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Celestine Santora
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Posted - 2010.08.09 13:45:00 -
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We don't care about the ore, we're hoping you'll shoot back
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Bixx Styxx
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Posted - 2010.08.09 13:46:00 -
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Mining. I'm not complaining here but is it really worth the trouble?
I mean I had one visit me while canflipping last night and he got away with a bestowers worth of ore, say about 10km3.
By the time he got back I had already moved the rest of his cans to the station.
It just seem like very low isk/hour. Or is it just something to do when opportunity show itself?
Do you cruise around looking for asteroids?
Are there people people who specialize in this?
How do this stuff work...
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Thorian Baalnorn
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Posted - 2010.08.09 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: Celestine Santora We don't care about the ore, we're hoping you'll shoot back
But if you dont shoot back we still get something out of it. So its really a win either way. And i swear i thought that can was blue.
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Roosterton
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Posted - 2010.08.09 14:15:00 -
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Originally by: Darth StickyFingers Wow. Ive never seen so much math fail before. 10km3 = 10,000 m3. less than half of 1 jet can.
Everybody here is taking the 10,000 to the power of 3 and its not. The capacity is cubic meters, not 10k cubed.
You would be correct, if we were referring to non-cubed meters.
However, since they are CUBIC meters, 1km3 = 1,000,000,000m3.
So, 10km3, as the OP said, would be 10,000,000,000
(I think )
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Keanez
Solar Revenue Service
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Posted - 2010.08.09 14:29:00 -
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Edited by: Keanez on 09/08/2010 14:32:49 Not that I partake in can flipping regularly but for me it's not the isk outcome, it's hillarious ganks that may follow afterwards.
Example 1
Or when you need a friend to help a little with the valiant defenders:
Example 2
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stoicfaux
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Posted - 2010.08.09 14:34:00 -
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Rule #1: When doing math in public, try googling it first: "convert cubic kilometers to cubic meters"
You're thinking about it too hard. km3 = (1km)^3 = (1,000m)^3 = 1,000,000,000m3 10km3 = 10 * (1km3) = 10,000,000,000m3
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Tigobitty
Caldari Australian Mining and industry Corp Intergalactic Exports Group
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Posted - 2010.08.09 15:11:00 -
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Edited by: Tigobitty on 09/08/2010 15:12:13 It's amazing how the absence of a space can screw up communications..
"10k m3" I think is what was intended.. as in Ten Thousand Cubic Metres. (not that this hasnt been figured out yet)
*ponders what sort of hilarity would ensue after a contract gone wrong for "10mm3" Trit*
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Marlenus
Ironfleet Towing And Salvage
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Posted - 2010.08.09 15:20:00 -
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Confirming that some of us who clean up abandoned jet cans in the asteroid belts really are doing it for the ore. You'd be amazed how much ore you can accumulate if you do this steadily in a busy system. It's much faster and easier than mining it yourself, and much less boring, too.
Plus, sometimes you get a fight out of it. That's added fun, and sometimes loot.
One of the EVE moments I'll never forget was the time I found a guy jet-can mining Omber in a hidden grav site (this was back when Omber was valuable stuff, especially in high sec) with a bunch of cans out. First thing he knew about me was when one of my big Bustards came out of warp next to a full jet can and emptied it. I was gone before his screeches started echoing in local, it was awesome. ------------------ Ironfleet.com |
Roosterton
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Posted - 2010.08.09 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: stoicfaux Rule #1: When doing math in public, try googling it first: "convert cubic kilometers to cubic meters"
You're thinking about it too hard. km3 = (1km)^3 = (1,000m)^3 = 1,000,000,000m3 10km3 = 10 * (1km3) = 10,000,000,000m3
This
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Borun Tal
Minmatar Spacepods Inc
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Posted - 2010.08.09 15:29:00 -
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Can flippers, gate campers... It's all the same kind of fail.
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Demolishar
Internet Spaceship Raiders
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Posted - 2010.08.09 15:33:00 -
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The isk is irrelevant for the can flipper, but possibly not for the person you flip. A 1 day old noob with 25,000m3 of Ore in a can and nothing else but his mining frigate will cry if you take that ore away, even though it's worth nothing to you it is worth loads to him. And all tears are worth the same.
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bitter vetiranarian
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Posted - 2010.08.09 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Borun Tal Can flippers, gate campers... It's all the same kind of fail.
Because real pvp is when you agree to meet at a planet for a 1v1.
For e-honour.
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Chopper Rollins
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.09 15:46:00 -
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Some folks from Aeddin and Teon might remember me and my campaign against the twisted practice of jet-can mining. It attracts agitated and unbalanced types, don't you know? Being bumped by BC's backing up the miners was good, lost a wreathe that way. Evading a Jaguar in a Wreathe is fun you can't buy. Lecture in local from corp CEO, twilight zone. Gave one guy the value of his ore back, he seemed quite sporting about it. Never been into tears, was unfortunately born with a heart and a brain bigger than a pea. Jetcan mining, just don't.
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Cory Sopapilla
Minmatar Kiroshi Group
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Posted - 2010.08.09 16:28:00 -
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Back when I used to mine I used to just orbit the can at 1K and go to the bar or out to dinner. I have no idea how long they sat there waiting on me to flash red but it made me feel better ;)
The ones who didn't flip and just ran off with a frigate cargohold worth were great fun. I just set the highest buy order for that ore in system and most of the time they didn't even realize they were hauling for me.
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