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CCP Fallout
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Posted - 2010.08.10 14:25:00 -
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It's that time of year again! The newest Quarterly Economic Report covering the second quarter of 2010 is now available. Read Dr.EyjoG's blog to find out what's been happening in EVE.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2010.08.10 14:38:00 -
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Yay again!
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T'Amber
Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.10 14:48:00 -
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DAMMIT! ?@#>!@#!@#
[SoE:X]
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W3370Pi4
ExoGeni Laboratories
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Posted - 2010.08.10 14:51:00 -
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sweet :D
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DmitryEKT
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.10 14:53:00 -
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About time we had a new devblog, shame it was a boring one instead of one of the good ones we were promised long ago like more info about the servers and stuff.
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Boltorano
Fourth Circle Total Comfort
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Posted - 2010.08.10 15:01:00 -
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Boltorano: King of Ishkurs
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1337sushi
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Posted - 2010.08.10 15:09:00 -
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1337sushi : Queen of Magic Box!
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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.08.10 15:10:00 -
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9% of pilots have scored a kill. This sounds very very low to me given the proportion of the server living in 0.0 and W space.
I'm wondering if the data they are using for this is drawn on whether the player was involved in the kill or scored the final blow (actually GOT the kill record in their character sheet). Very few Recon or non-bomber frigates will get final blows in big combat, so this may skew the numbers of players actually participating in combat. ---
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Skilluuhh
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Posted - 2010.08.10 15:11:00 -
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Skilluuhh : King of Ninja
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pneub
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Posted - 2010.08.10 15:12:00 -
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King of that stuff
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Scalar Angulargf
New Zion Judge Advocate
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Posted - 2010.08.10 15:15:00 -
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I really should read these
Scalar Angulargf: King of accidentally misspelled last names and of so famouse
T'Amber > scalar is so famouse
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Axemaster
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Posted - 2010.08.10 15:20:00 -
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Quote: Are there some underlying factors in place that have changed the EVE economy?
If you're seriously asking this, CCP needs a new economist.
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Degenerate Gambler
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Posted - 2010.08.10 15:22:00 -
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Degenerate Gambler: Queen of the obviouse
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Manfred Rickenbocker
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Posted - 2010.08.10 15:24:00 -
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Delicious delicious econ blogs... ------------------------ Peace through superior firepower: a guiding principle for uncertain times. |
Evo YaMing
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Posted - 2010.08.10 15:28:00 -
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nice. i only miss the "Coolant" Market snapshot ;). But i guess its to early for that. So i will hope to see it on the next Report.
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Mynxee
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Posted - 2010.08.10 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde 9% of pilots have scored a kill. This sounds very very low to me given the proportion of the server living in 0.0 and W space.
I'm wondering if the data they are using for this is drawn on whether the player was involved in the kill or scored the final blow (actually GOT the kill record in their character sheet). Very few Recon or non-bomber frigates will get final blows in big combat, so this may skew the numbers of players actually participating in combat.
9% seems low to me, too. But on page 8, it states that there are 712K characters in EVE; 9% of that would be the 66K referenced on page 10 as having scored a kill. If this 9% stat truly means "all players who appeared on a killmail" it's a depressing statistic for a PvP-centric game.
Regarding PI, it would be interesting to see in the next QEN a breakdown showing distribution of colonies by type of space (null, low, high, wormholes) and by region.
Otherwise, pretty good read although I admit that my eyes glaze over with all the market statistics. Beautifully designed document, as well...not necessarily relevant to the content but definitely helps make the content more accessible.
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guska Cryotank
Gallente Void Angels Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.08.10 15:53:00 -
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Am I the only one who looked at "70,000 PLEX traded" and then went and did the math? Assuming about 5,000 of those are bought and sold later when the prices rise, that still leaves about 65,000 PLEX being bought, at about $15 each. 65,000x15=$975,000 per month.
That just blows me away
Disclaimer: My 'assumed' figures are just that, they are not based on any hard evidence and I pulled them from my arse
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Jack Dant
Minmatar The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
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Posted - 2010.08.10 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: Mynxee 9% seems low to me, too. But on page 8, it states that there are 712K characters in EVE; 9% of that would be the 66K referenced on page 10 as having scored a kill. If this 9% stat truly means "all players who appeared on a killmail" it's a depressing statistic for a PvP-centric game.
Few people will get kills with more than one character per account, so the actual percentage of players who PVP will be around twice that. And that's excluding PVPer's carebear alts who don't actively look PVP, but may lose a ship on occasion.
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CCP Dr.EyjoG
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Posted - 2010.08.10 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: Mynxee Edited by: Mynxee on 10/08/2010 15:36:18
Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde 9% of pilots have scored a kill. This sounds very very low to me given the proportion of the server living in 0.0 and W space.
I'm wondering if the data they are using for this is drawn on whether the player was involved in the kill or scored the final blow (actually GOT the kill record in their character sheet). Very few Recon or non-bomber frigates will get final blows in big combat, so this may skew the numbers of players actually participating in combat.
9% seems low to me, too. But on page 8, it states that there are 712K characters in EVE; 9% of that would be the 66K referenced on page 10 as having scored a kill. If this 9% stat truly means "all players who appeared on a killmail" it's a depressing statistic for a PvP-centric game.
Just to clarify the issue. This stat refers to those that scored the final kill, so the number of people that particpated in PvP is higher. We will work on this stat for the next issue to see if we can get an estimate for characters participating in PvP even though they do not score the final kill.
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Qoi
Exert Force
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Posted - 2010.08.10 16:13:00 -
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Edited by: Qoi on 10/08/2010 16:12:51
Quote: Amarr now has 18.3% of all characters, but had 15.6% back in 2007. Of all characters in EVE today, 35.7% are Caldari, 25.7% are Gallente and 19.8% are Minmatar
18.3+37.5+25.7+19.8 101.3
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Axemaster
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Posted - 2010.08.10 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Qoi Edited by: Qoi on 10/08/2010 16:12:51
Quote: Amarr now has 18.3% of all characters, but had 15.6% back in 2007. Of all characters in EVE today, 35.7% are Caldari, 25.7% are Gallente and 19.8% are Minmatar
18.3+37.5+25.7+19.8 101.3
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Estel Arador
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Posted - 2010.08.10 16:17:00 -
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Interesting.
The description of the graphs could use some more attention; for instance some graphs showing indexes don't list at what point 100 was set, another had an unclear legend - it was about sinks and faucets, but the legend mentioned "services, taxes, and benefits" for what appeared to be the faucets, and it mentioned "NPC goods" for what appeared to be the sinks. (Or were only NPC goods counted and not other sinks?)
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Toldain
Gallente Skyforger Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.08.10 16:18:00 -
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Quote: In Q2 the price of water has more than doubled and the volume traded increased by 62% over the amount traded in Q1
Looking at the accompanying chart, it looks like the price of water went from about 37 ISK to about 53 ISK. How is this "more than doubled"? Have I missed something? ---- http://toldaintalks.blogspot.com - Because reading me sure beats working!
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Mynxee
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Posted - 2010.08.10 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Dr.EyjoG Just to clarify the issue. This stat refers to those that scored the final kill, so the number of people that particpated in PvP is higher. We will work on this stat for the next issue to see if we can get an estimate for characters participating in PvP even though they do not score the final kill.
Thanks...appreciate the clarification. That makes me feel better
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Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
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Posted - 2010.08.10 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: guska Cryotank Am I the only one who looked at "70,000 PLEX traded" and then went and did the math? Assuming about 5,000 of those are bought and sold later when the prices rise, that still leaves about 65,000 PLEX being bought, at about $15 each. 65,000x15=$975,000 per month.
That just blows me away
Disclaimer: My 'assumed' figures are just that, they are not based on any hard evidence and I pulled them from my arse
That is still less than 1/5th of the accounts funded by PLEX.
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MailDeadDrop
The Collective
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Posted - 2010.08.10 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: Qoi Edited by: Qoi on 10/08/2010 16:12:51
Quote: Amarr now has 18.3% of all characters, but had 15.6% back in 2007. Of all characters in EVE today, 35.7% are Caldari, 25.7% are Gallente and 19.8% are Minmatar
18.3+37.5+25.7+19.8 101.3
That's 18.3+35.7+25.7+19.8 99.5 which is still outside the theoretical "numbers don't add up because of rounding" margins of 99.6 to 100.4. But nearly as bad as Qoi paints it.
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Cors
Trap Standings Inc
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Posted - 2010.08.10 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Dr.EyjoG
Originally by: Mynxee Edited by: Mynxee on 10/08/2010 15:36:18
Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde 9% of pilots have scored a kill. This sounds very very low to me given the proportion of the server living in 0.0 and W space.
I'm wondering if the data they are using for this is drawn on whether the player was involved in the kill or scored the final blow (actually GOT the kill record in their character sheet). Very few Recon or non-bomber frigates will get final blows in big combat, so this may skew the numbers of players actually participating in combat.
9% seems low to me, too. But on page 8, it states that there are 712K characters in EVE; 9% of that would be the 66K referenced on page 10 as having scored a kill. If this 9% stat truly means "all players who appeared on a killmail" it's a depressing statistic for a PvP-centric game.
Just to clarify the issue. This stat refers to those that scored the final kill, so the number of people that particpated in PvP is higher. We will work on this stat for the next issue to see if we can get an estimate for characters participating in PvP even though they do not score the final kill.
Also keep in mind the altaholics out there.
I have 4 accounts, 12 chars total. But I only pvp with 2 or 3 of them. There are many people who have many alts for industry, cyno's, market, mining and so on that never pvp.
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Mynxee
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Posted - 2010.08.10 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Cors Also keep in mind the altaholics out there.
I have 4 accounts, 12 chars total. But I only pvp with 2 or 3 of them. There are many people who have many alts for industry, cyno's, market, mining and so on that never pvp.
True...but iirc somewhere (maybe Q1 QEN?), it was stated that the average is two accounts per player. Considering that...9% seemed really low. But with Dr. E's clarification the 9% is final blows on a kill, I imagine the PvP participation is quite a lot higher just based on a rough guesstimate about average number of characters on a killmail.
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Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
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Posted - 2010.08.10 16:51:00 -
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Edited by: Hel O''Ween on 10/08/2010 16:51:43
Originally by: MailDeadDrop Edited by: MailDeadDrop on 10/08/2010 16:28:53
Originally by: Qoi Edited by: Qoi on 10/08/2010 16:12:51
Quote: Amarr now has 18.3% of all characters, but had 15.6% back in 2007. Of all characters in EVE today, 35.7% are Caldari, 25.7% are Gallente and 19.8% are Minmatar
18.3+37.5+25.7+19.8 101.3
That's 18.3+35.7+25.7+19.8 99.5 which is still outside the theoretical "numbers don't add up because of rounding" margins of 99.8 to 100.2. But not nearly as bad as Qoi paints it.
There's a typo in there nontheless:
"Amarr now has 18.3% of all characters, but had 15.6% back in 2007. Of all characters in EVE today, 35.7% are Caldari, 25.7% are Gallente and 19.8% are Minmatar (the 2007 ratio was 37.8%, 26.7% and 19.8%, respectively). Hence, Amarr and Minmatar numbers have increased while the Gallente and Caldari have a lower share than before."
19.8% in 2007 compared to 19.8% today doesn't look like an increase to me. -- EVEWalletAware - an offline wallet manager |
Thrasymachus TheSophist
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Posted - 2010.08.10 16:51:00 -
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Minor typo at page 8 --
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Additionally, there has been a significant change in the percentage of each race. Amarr now has 18.3% of all characters, but had 15.6% back in 2007. Of all characters in EVE today, 35.7% are Caldari, 25.7% are Gallente and 19.8% are Minmatar (the 2007 ratio was 37.8%, 26.7% and 19.8%, respectively). Hence, Amarr and Minmatar numbers have increased while the Gallente and Caldari have a lower share than before.
The %s for Min stay constant; the narrative says they went up. I suspect one of the % numbers was a typo.
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