As long as, just like carriers, it is fitted with a jump drive, cannot use gates, and the hisec cyno rules don't change, I would be okay with this.

Yay more serverlag. and makes the domis pointless. This is a bad idea bro. Mini carriers have been suggested a lot on the old forums. But this by far is one of the worst I have seen.

Yay more serverlag. and makes the domis pointless. This is a bad idea bro. Mini carriers have been suggested a lot on the old forums. But this by far is one of the worst I have seen.

Domis were already pointless when they introduced bandwidth and nerfed it down to only 5 drones. You call that a drone carrier? What a joke, lol.

We could have mini carrier, or better yet, revert droneboat nerf and remove bandwidth mechanics.

a group of 3 to 5 domis can take on a fleet of 10 or more with the proper fit. and the drones will do a huge amount of damage they can put out 600 DPS from the drones alone. Let alone the nuets and the spider chain that they bring. to me that looks a hell of alot like a carrier fleet. Everyone helps each other and they let the drones do the dirty work. Sounds like a domi to me. Just a hell of alot slower.

Well Im done. Cant talk to people who don't know anything about the game.

First, CCP is not keen on upping drones in New Eden. Ships used to be able to use 10 drones. The Domi could use 15. The Moros could use 35. That all changed to reduce server loads. Asking for more drones is asking for more lag.

Second, Carriers use fighters. I could see mini carriers that used fewer fighters (one per level, none to start) with a stiff damage penalty, but that's it. Basically you could give a friend some warping heavy drones with bad tracking. That said, with current game mechanic you could Concord a friend.

Third, carriers do not get turrets, not even mini-ones. Oh, and no extra drone, gang assist, or triage modules. No tracking bonuses to drones either (or they would be preferable to the capitol carriers even with reduced damage).

Well, the biggest problem I see is that basically you've given no good reason for this to exist.

What nich+, does it fill? Why exactly is it needed?

Why is a dominix needed?
why is a rattlesnake needed?
Why is a gila needed?
Why is an ishtar needed?
Why are carriers needed?
Why are super carriers needed?
Why are titans needed?

Most of the ships in game were put there simply to add a flavor of life to eve.

To balance out those flavor of life ships, CCP had to implement ships like scorpions, widows, and whatever else.

This ship would simply be a flavor of life ship, and it probably wouldn't need the addition of another ship in order to balance it.

If you took out every ship in eve that wasn't really designed with a need, then you would remove almost every t1 ship in the game, carriers, super carriers, faction ships, pirate faction ships, and whatever else.

The only ships remaining would be t2 ships and other ships like dreads.

However, without the t1 ships giving the flavor of life composition, than every ship with a niche would serve no purpose and no longer be needed.

So again, it's not for a purpose, it's just to add flavor to the game.

You are so dumb its hurting me to read this post.

Aside from some of the tiered T1 ships, almost all ships in the game have a purpose. Your idea is added fluff the game doesn't need right now. There are more important things that need to be taken care of than adding a ship that overshadows existing ships.

You are so dumb its hurting me to read this post.

Aside from some of the tiered T1 ships, almost all ships in the game have a purpose. Your idea is added fluff the game doesn't need right now. There are more important things that need to be taken care of than adding a ship that overshadows existing ships.

Are we playing the same game? Eagle has a purpose? Diemost has a purpose? There are more pointless ships in t2 lines than in t1. And yes, a mini-carrier would have more purpose than them. Or we can just fix the Domi by unbreaking droneboats and remove bandwidth.

You are mentioning ships that have purposes but are broken. Eagle has the potential to be a great sniper, if rails weren't crap. Deimos has the potential to be a great up in your face pew pew but again, things are kinda broken. They have a purpose, they just need fixing.

Nice try tho.

Just noticed its you again Goose. Damn you are one negative dude. Biomass your character.

Domi also has a purpose that's broken - a mini carrier! Fix it.

Btw, LIKE ME, I must be liked by all

Domi also has a purpose that's broken - a mini carrier! Fix it.

Btw, LIKE ME, I must be liked by all

Except that the domi is perfectly fine for its role as a drone deploying battleship.

Keep trying though.

Other drone deploying battleships are also fine for their roles as drone deploying battleships.

Btw, you just implied your support for a new mini-carrier for the role of mini-carriers, as domi was not classified as the mini-carriers they used to be, but rather a drone deploying bs like any other drone deploying bs.

Btw, I'm not seeing you +1 any of my posts. Yet you clearly like me, as you keep responding to my numerous insights.

It should on one of them.

Right not I'm just enjoying sitting back watching you defend my point.


It's nice to have people that agree with a suggestion

Why is a dominix needed?
Drone specialty BS with the advantage of changing drone damage/size type or replacing damage/destroyed drones.

why is a rattlesnake needed?
Shield tanking pirate drone ship with serious defensive power.

Why is a gila needed?
Shield tanking pirate drone ship with serious defensive power.

Why is an ishtar needed?
T2 cruiser defense with BS drone offense. Bonus affords better drone range from a time with there was no other way (module or skill) to get it.

Why are carriers needed?
Support ship: helps defense through logistics and offense through fighters.

Why are super carriers needed?
clone bays plus extra fighter support, etc

Why are titans needed?
1) Symbols of power
2) jump gate tech
3) mad fleet bonuses
plus clone bays, hangers, and what not

When you made that list you turned off some older players (I can understand their descent). These aren't just flavors; they are tools with a purpose. Capitol ships are the some of the most purpose driven ships in eve. Take dreads: they are POS attackers. Even battleships have a purpose: they are the backbone of the fleet. There are different rolls in fleets. To give you a reverse example, the dominix is not a good sniper (it can do it, but not well). Mini carries, if ever introduced, would be just that: mini support ships.

Pirate ships are an exception to this. Those don't have to fit any role. CCP has made drastic changes to them in the past. Mixing the least and most purposed ships in a list of examples is a part of why some where turned off. I cannot speak directly for them, but that is my opinion.

There is another consideration. Carriers where controversial when introduced. Other races where intruding on a Gellente specialty: drones. That is why only the Gellente ships get a fighter damage bonus. Even with a focus on fighters, this reintroduces such conflicts.



As for the number of drones, better servers are not the answer. CCP will need better servers to fix lag, handle more players, and for new features. Smaller, cheaper ships with more drones in heavily populated highsec spells a huge problem (read the QEN). CCP would be shooting themselves in the foot if the limit was over 5. Vastly better servers would be needed for this novelty feature.

Note: even missile grouping was done to help with server performance.