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nat longshot
solo and loveing it
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Posted - 2012.07.25 22:35:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:evereplicant wrote:ok ill say it again and ill keep saying it.
I agree with the OP. I am sick and tired of seeing large alliances taking every damn moon on the eve universe (yes thats including high sec and low sec) and then all they need to do is sit on them, anyone attacks them its 500 titans and supers defending it. Its WRONG and this is a massive issue with eve. Having all tech in venal also is just the biggest most stupid thing CCP have done.
There needs to be a complete overhaul of moon locations, a strategic review shall we say. Every region should have a pretty much equal amount of moons generating an equal amount of same type minerals.
Tech moons or any large income making moons should be very few say 10 per region and i still say they should be randomised every 3 months to new locations within the same region.
It stupid that people like goons can hold 150 high income moons and just make trillions.. its wrong very wrong and to be honest this is making me not want to play the game anymore. redistribution (and god forbid, rotation) is a dumb idea if you want to know why, i have 160k reasons
you a goon that 159,999 reasons. |
Mallak Azaria
384
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Posted - 2012.07.25 23:39:00 -
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evereplicant wrote:AlleyKat wrote:evereplicant wrote:ok ill say it again and ill keep saying it.
I agree with the OP. I am sick and tired of seeing large alliances taking every damn moon on the eve universe (yes thats including high sec and low sec) and then all they need to do is sit on them, anyone attacks them its 500 titans and supers defending it. Its WRONG and this is a massive issue with eve. Having all tech in venal also is just the biggest most stupid thing CCP have done.
There needs to be a complete overhaul of moon locations, a strategic review shall we say. Every region should have a pretty much equal amount of moons generating an equal amount of same type minerals.
Tech moons or any large income making moons should be very few say 10 per region and i still say they should be randomised every 3 months to new locations within the same region.
It stupid that people like goons can hold 150 high income moons and just make trillions.. its wrong very wrong and to be honest this is making me not want to play the game anymore. I kinda understand your frustration. However, game mechanics are firmly in place for anyone to take these systems - but I will agree it seems highly unlikely given the overwhelming odds against anyone who attempts to do so. Just need enough dots. AK given that NC. Evoke. Raiden. PL all established big pvp alliances couldnt manage it together because basically goons can just constantly fund an neverending supply of ships with no consequence as thye make more isk than they can spend says theres a big problem.. Goons you may troll all you like, my statement remains. and yes please give 160kk reasons why randomising moons is not a good idea... please...
Remember the Northern Coalition? Remember them? The ones that used to hold all of the Tech moons & supposedly could not be beaten. Remember? |
EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
237
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Posted - 2012.07.26 00:16:00 -
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its evereplicant
he probably thinks "the northern coalition" is the same as nc. |
Urgg Boolean
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
186
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Posted - 2012.07.26 00:23:00 -
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I see the idea of moon depletion being bounced around. It sounds a lot the old game of "kill the guy with the ball". Whoever has the tech moons has a high probability of being attacked for ownership of said resource. The mechanic is continual hunting for the fresh moons and deploying forces. That, on the surface, seems like it would stimulate conflict. Some have said that the T2 prices will go up radically if this happens. But the graph in the Dev Blog shows prices have gone up radically in the current situation.
It just seems if you need a reasn to fight, kill the guys with the ball is as good as any. |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
803
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Posted - 2012.07.26 00:24:00 -
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Pubbie filth yet again whining to the developers instead of trying to fix the problem themselves. The Tech moons are there, they don't move around. Go take them if you want them. If you're too much of a coward to do that, then live with the boot-heel of those that could stomping on your face.
This is your fault. You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world. |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
803
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Posted - 2012.07.26 00:25:00 -
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Dear CCP,
Why did you put a bunch of valuable resources in one spot? My frightened pubbie mind can't handle the thought of resource motivated warfare and diplomacy. Please spread the technitium out so that everyone can have a fare an equitable share.
Signed,
Pubbie Filth You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world. |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1434
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Posted - 2012.07.26 00:25:00 -
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Tarsus Zateki wrote:Dear CCP,
Why did you put a bunch of valuable resources in one spot? My frightened pubbie mind can't handle the thought of resource motivated warfare and diplomacy. Please spread the technitium out so that everyone can have a fare an equitable share.
Signed,
Pubbie Filth
"additionally, we want to mine tech moons in hisec" a rogue goon |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
803
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Posted - 2012.07.26 00:28:00 -
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CCP, want to help curb inflation and market pressures in game? We have more money than god, let's destroy it. Let us buyout Concord. Let O-Tech drop the largest most controversial bribe in the history of corruption and grant us the ability to do whatever we want to the whimpering masses of sub-human garbage that pollute high-sec. Carebear genocide. You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world. |
John Rando
Sigillum Militum Xpisti Fatal Ascension
1
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Posted - 2012.07.26 00:28:00 -
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All space is not equal. Nor should it be. Otherwise what is the point? |
Mallak Azaria
384
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Posted - 2012.07.26 00:30:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:Dear CCP,
Why did you put a bunch of valuable resources in one spot? My frightened pubbie mind can't handle the thought of resource motivated warfare and diplomacy. Please spread the technitium out so that everyone can have a fare an equitable share.
Signed,
Pubbie Filth "additionally, we want to mine tech moons in hisec"
Oh dear. That reminds me of some random guy last month who I managed to convince I had a Tech moon for sale. He wouldn't buy it because it wasn't in highsec. |
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Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
803
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Posted - 2012.07.26 00:30:00 -
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John Rando wrote:All space is not equal. Nor should it be. Otherwise what is the point?
The folks that make posts like the OP can't actually comprehend a post like yours. They don't get that Eve is a conflict-centric video game that lets you cause actual economic harm. They won't be content until Eve-Online is a consequence free game. You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world. |
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
579
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Posted - 2012.07.26 00:37:00 -
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^ Seems like that would cause you actual economic harm though. Perhaps it should be done. I will not be voting in the CSM election, so you need to go vote to make up for me. |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
803
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Posted - 2012.07.26 00:40:00 -
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rodyas wrote:^ Seems like that would cause you actual economic harm though. Perhaps it should be done.
A pubbie failing to recognize the difference between player driven conflict and content creation... and developer interference. You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world. |
EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
237
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Posted - 2012.07.26 00:52:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote: Oh dear. That reminds me of some random guy last month who I managed to convince I had a Tech moon for sale. He wouldn't buy it because it wasn't in highsec.
nm |
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
579
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Posted - 2012.07.26 01:22:00 -
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Tarsus Zateki wrote:rodyas wrote:^ Seems like that would cause you actual economic harm though. Perhaps it should be done. A pubbie failing to recognize the difference between player driven conflict and content creation... and developer interference.
I see the victim of a nerf bat clearly, and the whining that ensues. You guys always wanted tech nerf, and I knew you would hate it when it did. You guys can always make your own server ya know. I will not be voting in the CSM election, so you need to go vote to make up for me. |
Ezra Tair
Murientor Tribe Defiant Legacy
72
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Posted - 2012.07.26 01:47:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Ezra Tair wrote:Nirnias Stirrum wrote:Have you tried taking the moons for yourself? Cause i can guarantee thats how goons did it. As I recall, they had a entire region given to them. unlike defiant legacy, a noted relevant space holding alliance we had deklein given to us because we merged with the alliance that previously owned it, we only had 10-20 tech moons and we had to take the other 40-60 ourselves
What does my alliance's relevance to null sec have to do with Goonswarm being handed an entire region? So they hadned you 10-20 3 bill a month moons. Is this the new minimum entry amount of income for nullsec? I don't know your business, but don't talk about how GSF took systems as though you did it from scratch and new comers should expect to do the same. Because you didn't. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1218
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Posted - 2012.07.26 02:04:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:Dear CCP,
Why did you put a bunch of valuable resources in one spot? My frightened pubbie mind can't handle the thought of resource motivated warfare and diplomacy. Please spread the technitium out so that everyone can have a fare an equitable share.
Signed,
Pubbie Filth "additionally, we want to mine tech moons in hisec" Isn't it a bit late to ask for that since you can just react with cobalt or something now? Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Kheeria
Sigillum Militum Xpisti Fatal Ascension
0
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Posted - 2012.07.26 02:06:00 -
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RAGE QU1T wrote:Allchemy didn't work in '08 and will not work in 2012. Please let us all give this new dev a history lesson. The major problem with tech is the allocation the R64 moon to one region (the north) in which a few select alliances can generatate infinte isk and "Win EVE". With the proposed reaction outputt of tech therre is no incentive for other allainces or corps to run muliple POS's with the added expense of fuel I would be losing money on a weekly basis. All this is just skirting around a broken problem that exsisted for years. Allchemy was removed for good reason in the first place, all I see happening is T2 gear will mos def increase, how does everyone fell about paying 3 to 4mil isk for a gyro II?
Floor is open for constructive criticism, questions or concerns
O/ You're in a NPC corp and are worrying about tech moons? |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1218
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Posted - 2012.07.26 02:10:00 -
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Kheeria wrote:RAGE QU1T wrote:Allchemy didn't work in '08 and will not work in 2012. Please let us all give this new dev a history lesson. The major problem with tech is the allocation the R64 moon to one region (the north) in which a few select alliances can generatate infinte isk and "Win EVE". With the proposed reaction outputt of tech therre is no incentive for other allainces or corps to run muliple POS's with the added expense of fuel I would be losing money on a weekly basis. All this is just skirting around a broken problem that exsisted for years. Allchemy was removed for good reason in the first place, all I see happening is T2 gear will mos def increase, how does everyone fell about paying 3 to 4mil isk for a gyro II?
Floor is open for constructive criticism, questions or concerns
O/ You're in a NPC corp and are worrying about tech moons? NPC corps are really powerful. For example, you can't even declare war on them, that's how scary they are. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Kheeria
Sigillum Militum Xpisti Fatal Ascension
0
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Posted - 2012.07.26 02:11:00 -
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evereplicant wrote:EvilweaselSA wrote:three out of the four alliances you named have tech moons, and pl has more than we do you nitwit right PL do not have more than you dont talk nonsense, secondly the only reason the others have tech moons is becuase you guys did a deal with them! also stop taking everything so damn personal, i am actually talking about large alliances overall, just the matter of fact you guys are the biggest alliance with the most control over eve with the most moons.. so get used to people referring to you dumbass.. If the cfc wasn't the biggest it would be someone else and you'd be whining and bitching about them. |
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Kheeria
Sigillum Militum Xpisti Fatal Ascension
0
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Posted - 2012.07.26 02:18:00 -
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Internet Lawyer Steve wrote:Ivana Twinkle wrote:You're just jealous because you haven't achieved anything on your own. Neither has Goonswarm. Says the 3 month old char who has all the answers and knowledge about eve and it's history. |
Hakaru Ishiwara
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
289
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Posted - 2012.07.26 02:20:00 -
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EvilweaselSA wrote:people advocating moon rotation are, universally, friendless nobodies who hate the fact 0.0 rewards having friends They also do not recall that it was a rejiggering by CCP in the Dominion expansion (December 2009) of the Tech 2 manufacturing inputs which, in turn, altered the demand for various moon-derived materials.
CCP knew exactly what they were doing and they sat on their hands for over 2.5 years letting this nonsense fester.
Back on-topic: Change the Tech 2 manufacturing inputs and *poof* the demand for various moon materials is altered.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1218
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Posted - 2012.07.26 02:26:00 -
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Hakaru Ishiwara wrote:EvilweaselSA wrote:people advocating moon rotation are, universally, friendless nobodies who hate the fact 0.0 rewards having friends They also do not recall that it was a rejiggering by CCP in the Dominion expansion (December 2009) of the Tech 2 manufacturing inputs which, in turn, altered the demand for various moon-derived materials. CCP knew exactly what they were doing and they sat on their hands for over 2.5 years letting this nonsense fester. Back on-topic: Change the Tech 2 manufacturing inputs and *poof* the demand for various moon materials is altered. Our ~sea of blues~ Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
1113
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Posted - 2012.07.26 03:04:00 -
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Making any change that limits the flow of Tech to the Alliances that holds them would only make the prices we (as the consumer) get worse.
Work goes up (or supply drops), prices go up.
Alchemy for tech is (if I understand it correctly) similar to invention for T2 BPOs. A way to add supply from other sources. |
highonpop
Void.Tech Fatal Ascension
161
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Posted - 2012.07.27 13:43:00 -
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Takeshi Yamato wrote:highonpop wrote:Regardless of tech or any moon goo
Alchemy should stay in Fantasy MMOs not in SciFi MMOs.
New Dev doesn't understand EVE yet. Transmutation of elements is real. Particle accelerators transmute elements on a regular basis. Transmutation also takes place in nuclear plants and during thermonuclear explosions. At our current technology level it's mostly only of scientific interest and a side effect of nuclear power generation, but in a science fiction universe it's not too far fetched to imagine that it could be used on an industrial scale to create rare and valuable elements.
In understand the concept of synthetic materials. But having some magical formula of, put in 2 trit and 1 scord and wave your magic wand and get morphite is not creating synthetic materials.
If I understand this correctly, and I hope I don't, then you will be able to take 'naturally occurring' elements in New Eden and turn them into other 'naturally occurring' elements. This is not the same as making synthetic materials in a laboratory.
If I can take 'naturally occurring' elements from New Eden and get new synthetic materials that have the same use as other 'naturally occurring' elements of New Eden, then that is something different. All I heard was Blah Blah Blah I'm a dirty *****... |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1228
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Posted - 2012.07.27 13:51:00 -
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Didn't the devblog introducing "alchemy" say it was representing innovation or something.
Like having two ways you can duct tape frigates to make a tornado. (one uses Rifters, the other uses Hounds?) Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Nylith Empyreal
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
123
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Posted - 2012.07.27 14:16:00 -
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Omg that pubbie is threatening our moons, we earned these moons, and with the rewards gained we ****** everyone else, now they're whining, now the dev's are doing something, procede aggressive forum bashing.
What is the point, move moons, someone takes holds, now you have 10 assholes versus 1 whom are rather content in their own regions, leaving the rest to renters pets and bromance. Fade moons, assholes conquer the new moons from the unfortunate alliance it falls upon, using the isk from their previous gains they come and retake with ease. Would we have more fights or more shooting ranges?
Honestly given the age of things from a bunch of lowly city-states and small empires, Alexander was bound to show up to create an empire and now we have multiple empires. Just wait, the Romans ran themselves to the ground the Persians got screwed by raiders, and Attila the hun is around the corner. Honestly be the better 'Great', if you studied half of what BoB, GS, RA, Solar etc did you should have atleast half the map. "Oh, you can't help that," said the troll: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" -ásaid the forumwarrior. "You must be," said the troll, "or you wouldn't have come here." |
Hiyora Akachi
Bling Ring Tax Evaders
33
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Posted - 2012.07.27 14:20:00 -
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I kinda like the idea of Alchemy.
I wish to turn every Minmatar ship I come across into gold so that I don't bleed from my eyes when I look at them. |
flakeys
Arkham Innovations Paper Tiger Coalition
318
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Posted - 2012.07.27 14:24:00 -
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Ivana Twinkle wrote:You're just jealous because you haven't achieved anything on your own.
Irony overload coming from a goon |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1228
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Posted - 2012.07.27 14:25:00 -
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Nylith Empyreal wrote:Would we have more fights or more shooting ranges? Shooting ranges are fine.
Do we get leaked enemy comms from it? Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
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