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Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
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Posted - 2012.07.26 20:55:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote: [snip] X for T1 noobship ganking blob
has a nice ring to it, though you could also X for pos destruction.
Only if the FC sings to us, though. In irae, veritas. |
qDoctor Strangelove
Beware of the Red Fox
36
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Posted - 2012.07.26 21:23:00 -
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Let me tell you about this plated 100mn MWD cruiser I have with low grade snakes, a quaffe booster, gang booster and some heat.... |
Gulboy
Severasse Mining Severasse Militarized Mining Union
1
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Posted - 2012.07.26 21:32:00 -
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I know discussion is good, but this stuff may not be the final version. Why acting like it already ruined the game or so? Well mining ships don't have much cargo hold, so jet can mining is the best option for most solo miners (not entering into the topics of orcas and secure cans, since I'm talking about solo mining). The change of ore bays will especially work well for ninja mining (something I try to do all the time), which I'm guessing CCP wants to encourage. The larger the risk, the better the reward right? Now the risk stays at the same magnitude, but it's duration decreases by a bit. Of course, I'm not entering into the topic of suicide ganking and all that jazz. Honestly, I think the barges had way less hp, and now it's fixed. REMEMBER though that this can be changed with upcoming patches, or even before the new patch is released. Peace. |
highonpop
Void.Tech Fatal Ascension
161
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Posted - 2012.07.26 21:34:00 -
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nat longshot wrote:ok i like the new stats hell i restarting my mining skills now.
so btw Goon your whole pay out on barges when it take 3 tornados to get a hulk will be useless no one will do it.
so let mining gankers cry there sry eyes out and let me laugh at them. oh wait they will have to find real targets now.
PS, freighters have more tank than any barge ever hoped to and they get ganked every day. Take a trip to Niarja
good try though. All I heard was Blah Blah Blah I'm a dirty *****... |
Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
378
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Posted - 2012.07.26 21:42:00 -
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I am sure the odd 'real miner' especially if they are new to Eve, complains but being ganked.
But I would suggest that the vast majority of the supposed 'crying miners' are, in fact just plain old anti-miner types trying to give miners a bad name.
It is also an easy, lazy way to start a long boring thread.
Being ganked is simply a business cost to be factored into mining. You want fries with that? |
Daemon Ceed
Jihad Squad from Riyadh Reckless Ambition
273
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Posted - 2012.07.26 23:58:00 -
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:slaps hands to cheeks:
Oh noes! I'll have to use 2 moar Catalysts to gank a Hulk! What ever shall I do?!? The Sandbox = Play however the hell you want. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1223
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Posted - 2012.07.27 00:09:00 -
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Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote: [snip] X for T1 noobship ganking blob
has a nice ring to it, though you could also X for pos destruction. Only if the FC sings to us, though. E: Link for those not in the know. As much as I despise most goons--for vastly different reasons than the bleating-carebear crowd, I assure you--this is just brilliant! But now Boat is shooting the pos, so his dog is the one entertaining us. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
9014
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Posted - 2012.07.27 00:24:00 -
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I don't see the new changes making much difference at all tbh. Most miners will still fit for max yield.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Dave stark
Bombardier Inc
276
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Posted - 2012.07.27 00:26:00 -
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Mag's wrote:I don't see the new changes making much difference at all tbh. Most miners will still fit for max yield.
i think you under estimate the changes. Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
1713
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Posted - 2012.07.27 00:30:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Tor Gungnir wrote:I never ever see "miners" complain here. Since this is your first time on the forum, let me start by saying: welcome! Anyway, stick around, and you will see plenty of them, all over the place.
There are but they are about 10% of the gankers threads. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
254
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Posted - 2012.07.27 00:33:00 -
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Mag's wrote:I don't see the new changes making much difference at all tbh. Most miners will still fit for max yield. Then all is fine and everyone can continue doing what they normally do. |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
9014
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Posted - 2012.07.27 01:16:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:Mag's wrote:I don't see the new changes making much difference at all tbh. Most miners will still fit for max yield. i think you under estimate the changes. Nah it's more about not over estimating the miner playerbase tbh.
If I do decide to start shooting miners, I'll adapt. No biggy.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Zaraz Zaraz
Imperial Planetology Academy
3
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Posted - 2012.07.27 05:20:00 -
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pussnheels wrote:nothing been done to the max yiekd and that is good news they not gank proof and it will take team effort now to gank the mack or skiff, there wtill will be plenty of people going for untanked hulks tho
besides the ones crying the hardest are the one who are too scared to engage in real pvp , something that can actually shoot back
My experience at school was that the bullies cry the hardest and had the lowest pain threshold.
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Leeloo Killik
INTJ warehouse CZECH Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.07.27 21:03:00 -
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I'm a miner myself and I dislike the EHP change... the art of tanking is gone... :/ |
Syphon Lodian
Fabled Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.07.27 21:53:00 -
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Tor Gungnir wrote: I never ever see "miners" complain here.
All I see are people like you, complaining "about" miners.
Funny how that works.
This.
I never complained about any of my lost exhumers. I have no emotion invested in it, I say oh well and move on. Most of the situations I've lost them, there was nothing I could have done even if I had a "tank" hulk (lol) anyway. When I fit my hulks for yield, I consider it an assessed risk. I'm sure whenever I got ganked, the pirates assumed I was "stupid" for their own pleasure.
I value both my eyesight and the resistance to strain-related injuries like carpal-tunnel, so I don't "constantly keep at speed and aligned, watching all my sectors with my fourth eye on local". I really don't give that much a fk about it tbh. Again, assessed risk. But if I get ganked, I'm stupid and didn't know what I was doing.. even if I say absolutely nothing.
Apparently I'm "doing it wrong" if I don't fit every slot with tank because someone said so, even though I deliberately chose not to do so as a calculated risk.
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Jaison Savrin
Dragon's Rage Ethereal Dawn
0
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Posted - 2012.07.28 01:33:00 -
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Zaraz Zaraz wrote: My experience at school was that the bullies cry the hardest and had the lowest pain threshold.
^ all the whining ganker threads have made me think similar ^ |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
9020
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Posted - 2012.07.28 01:37:00 -
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Jaison Savrin wrote:Zaraz Zaraz wrote: My experience at school was that the bullies cry the hardest and had the lowest pain threshold.
^ all the whining ganker threads have made me think similar ^ Yea, those miners whine a lot don't they.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Blastcaps Madullier
Celestial Horizon Corp. Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2012.07.28 02:05:00 -
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Korvus Falek wrote:I think its funny this guy thinks this will stop gankers. IMO, the perma-geddon the Goons are financing at 100misk per 10 kills will go up to 200 or 300misk per 10 killed. They have the money to do it and I see no reason why they wouldnt if they wanted to keep the miner tears flowing.
atm seems to be mostly ganker tears flooding the forums lol.
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Ryoken McKeon
Obstergo TEMNAVA
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Posted - 2012.07.28 05:09:00 -
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I don't see how this is something to brag about. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1229
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Posted - 2012.07.28 05:17:00 -
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Syphon Lodian wrote:Tor Gungnir wrote: I never ever see "miners" complain here.
All I see are people like you, complaining "about" miners.
Funny how that works.
This. I never complained about any of my lost exhumers. I have no emotion invested in it, I say oh well and move on. Most of the situations I've lost them, there was nothing I could have done even if I had a "tank" hulk (lol) anyway. When I fit my hulks for yield, I consider it an assessed risk. I'm sure whenever I got ganked, the pirates assumed I was "stupid" for their own pleasure. I value both my eyesight and the resistance to strain-related injuries like carpal-tunnel, so I don't "constantly keep at speed and aligned, watching all my sectors with my fourth eye on local". I really don't give that much a fk about it tbh. Again, assessed risk. But if I get ganked, I'm stupid and didn't know what I was doing.. even if I say absolutely nothing. Apparently I'm "doing it wrong" if I don't fit every slot with tank because someone said so, even though I deliberately chose not to do so as a calculated risk. Though I'd watch local and intel, there's hardly a reason to tank above the rats in nullsec, so I definitely wouldn't.
I did EFT the max yield hulks to see if/how you could make them tank the grav site rats if you happened to get them on you (and not on the tank)... meh.
(Newbies in retrievers would die, so you always need to tank it for em). Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
1459
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Posted - 2012.07.28 05:24:00 -
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whining and mining |
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
581
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Posted - 2012.07.28 05:27:00 -
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mining and whining I will not be voting in the CSM election, so you need to go vote to make up for me. |
Ohh Yeah
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
222
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Posted - 2012.07.28 05:28:00 -
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I want to be whined and dined |
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
581
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Posted - 2012.07.28 05:56:00 -
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^ Well go grab some cold potato salad, we got plenty of whine here. I will not be voting in the CSM election, so you need to go vote to make up for me. |
Doctor Benway Kado
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
219
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Posted - 2012.07.28 08:58:00 -
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My experience at school was that bullies usually came from broken households where abuse from parental figures was the norm, and as a result incorporated the lesson that physical violence was an acceptable, even glorified, solution to personal conflicts with those around them. Drug abuse among those parental figures seemed pretty common too.
I don't really know what that has to do with a space video game though! |
Zaraz Zaraz
Imperial Planetology Academy
7
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Posted - 2012.07.28 09:03:00 -
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Doctor Benway Kado wrote:My experience at school was that bullies usually came from broken households where abuse from parental figures was the norm, and as a result incorporated the lesson that physical violence was an acceptable, even glorified, solution to personal conflicts with those around them. Drug abuse among those parental figures seemed pretty common too.
I don't really know what that has to do with a space video game though!
You don't think that there can be such a thing as 'bullying' in a 'space video game'?
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Jaison Savrin
Dragon's Rage Ethereal Dawn
0
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Posted - 2012.07.28 10:46:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Jaison Savrin wrote:Zaraz Zaraz wrote: My experience at school was that the bullies cry the hardest and had the lowest pain threshold.
^ all the whining ganker threads have made me think similar ^ Yea, those miners whine a lot don't they.
Lol, yeah sure that is what I was referring to. Frankly I am less bothered by people whining over being ganked. I can't really blame them for complaining when they are being hunted by angry 12yr olds with desperetly small e-peens. I can however laugh hysterically at the whining of said 12yr olds when the miners are given proper tools to defend themselves. Power to the rock shooters! |
Zaraz Zaraz
Imperial Planetology Academy
8
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Posted - 2012.07.28 11:06:00 -
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Jaison Savrin wrote:Mag's wrote:Jaison Savrin wrote:Zaraz Zaraz wrote: My experience at school was that the bullies cry the hardest and had the lowest pain threshold.
^ all the whining ganker threads have made me think similar ^ Yea, those miners whine a lot don't they. Lol, yeah sure that is what I was referring to. Frankly I am less bothered by people whining over being ganked. I can't really blame them for complaining when they are being hunted by angry 12yr olds with desperetly small e-peens. I can however laugh hysterically at the whining of said 12yr olds when the miners are given proper tools to defend themselves. Power to the rock shooters!
I doubt that most of them are actually 12 years old, or even teenagers. But on the other hand you don't need to be 12 years old to behave like you are 12 years old!
Some people love it when people whine over being ganked; thats why they gank people. But when the shoe is on the other foot, they don't see the funny side!
To some people the other players in this game are no better than NPCs, they are there to provide them with entertainment ('its just a game!'. I think that the MMO goes way beyond 'game', the social component is so important really its more like a social or sports club.
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tiberiusric
Comply Or Die En Garde
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Posted - 2012.07.28 11:10:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Nah. Silly miners will still go for max-yield hulks and will still not tank them. They will then still come to the forums and complain about how they miraculously manage to get killed by Destroyers and demand that something be done about this huge injustice.
something I actually agree with Tippia on - Greed is good |
Jaison Savrin
Dragon's Rage Ethereal Dawn
0
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Posted - 2012.07.28 11:23:00 -
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Quote:I doubt that most of them are actually 12 years old, or even teenagers. But on the other hand you don't need to be 12 years old to behave like you are 12 years old!
That is what I was implying.
Quote:Some people love it when people whine over being ganked; thats why they gank people. But when the shoe is on the other foot, they don't see the funny side!
Which is sad. I've never understood people who get enjoyment out of ruining other people's day. It seems like a sign of latent sociopathy to me.
Quote:To some people the other players in this game are no better than NPCs, they are there to provide them with entertainment ('its just a game!'. I think that the MMO goes way beyond 'game', the social component is so important really its more like a social or sports club.
I agree. The "its just a game" argument doesn't fly with me. There is another person on the other side of the keyboard. That person is deserving of respect and to be left alone shooting rocks if that is their wish. |
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