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Jas Dor
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.27 21:36:00 -
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If what you really need to debug a mass lag situation is a fraps showing the error, then WHY DON'T YOU ASK ALLIANCES TO PROVIDE THEM. With luck they might also turn on logserver and send the logs of the fight along with the video.
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Lt Santa
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Posted - 2010.08.27 21:46:00 -
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or why not just take part in battles yourself by using your master tools...
when a fight starts and you see server is is working hard... go there, jump in. take part... use a ship, a specilized ship that cant be viewed by others but you can target and shoot with guns that do no damage. you can fraps and log your stuff.
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.08.27 21:53:00 -
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Originally by: Lt Santa or why not just take part in battles yourself by using your master tools...
when a fight starts and you see server is is working hard... go there, jump in. take part... use a ship, a specilized ship that cant be viewed by others but you can target and shoot with guns that do no damage. you can fraps and log your stuff.
If their servers show nothing when a 500man fleet gets blacksreened, do you think they have the ability to tell when their servers are working hard.
Oh wait I know how they can do it. Get a gothic guy to sit in the dark in the server room watching the lights flash.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.28 04:53:00 -
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Originally by: Jas Dor If what you really need to debug a mass lag situation is a fraps showing the error, then WHY DON'T YOU ASK ALLIANCES TO PROVIDE THEM. With luck they might also turn on logserver and send the logs of the fight along with the video.
They did ask the alliances for help. Alas the alliance heads all said **** you its not our problem so fix it yourself.
True story.
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: Ryhss There is no paranoia in Eve, everyone is out to get you....
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Cobalt Sixty
Caldari Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2010.08.28 05:07:00 -
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Maybe try using the new SP pool function to bribe I mean reward your customers for doing your product testing for you, instead of them expending their own valuable leisure time in the hope that you finally fix whatever it was you broke during Damnation or Tyranids or whichever one it was.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.28 05:10:00 -
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Originally by: Cobalt Sixty Maybe try using the new SP pool function to bribe I mean reward your customers for doing your product testing for you, instead of them expending their own valuable leisure time in the hope that you finally fix whatever it was you broke during Damnation or Tyranids or whichever one it was.
Synergy mate. CCP and its cleverly inventive playerbase and all responsible.
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: Ryhss There is no paranoia in Eve, everyone is out to get you....
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Jameroz
Echoes of Space
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Posted - 2010.08.28 05:18:00 -
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Originally by: Jas Dor If what you really need to debug a mass lag situation is a fraps showing the error, then WHY DON'T YOU ASK ALLIANCES TO PROVIDE THEM. With luck they might also turn on logserver and send the logs of the fight along with the video.
Perhaps they're running various debug stuff on the server side too which might slower the server down considerably thus causing even more problems for the players.
Also if they're introducing fixes to combat the lag then you don't really want to have the tranquility as your testing grounds in case they turn out to be even worse in performance.
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.08.28 05:28:00 -
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Why is this thread still unlocked? It would suggest being forum moderator is 9-5 job.
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Stick Cult
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Posted - 2010.08.28 06:06:00 -
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Originally by: Cobalt Sixty Maybe try using the new SP pool function to bribe I mean reward your customers for doing your product testing for you, instead of them expending their own valuable leisure time in the hope that you finally fix whatever it was you broke during Damnation or Tyranids or whichever one it was.
I suggested this. Zulu responded and said "That's an interesting suggestion. I'm going to forward it to those responsible for Singularity and see if they're OK with it.". This was 11 days ago. Yes, I'm counting. True story.
Also, they didn't actually break Eve specifically in Dominion, it was sort of just the culmination of a lot of problems. Actually, the "Dominion" lag issues have all been fixed, but new ones have popped up to replace them... Woot legacy code!
Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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Antihrist Pripravnik
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.28 08:14:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba They did ask the alliances for help. Alas the alliance heads all said **** you its not our problem so fix it yourself.
True story.
Incorrect. If you want to help instead of talking nonsense on the forum, why don't you log in on the test server once in a while when there are mass testing events? Then you can see for yourself what alliance leaders are thinking about mass testing.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.28 08:24:00 -
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Originally by: Antihrist Pripravnik
Originally by: Zeba They did ask the alliances for help. Alas the alliance heads all said **** you its not our problem so fix it yourself.
True story.
Incorrect. If you want to help instead of talking nonsense on the forum, why don't you log in on the test server once in a while when there are mass testing events? Then you can see for yourself what alliance leaders are thinking about mass testing.
And what makes you think I don't? Can't say I have ever in any post of mine said that fleet fight lag is not something that needs to be fixed asap. I totally recognise that for the core inhabitants of nullsec that its pretty much the only reason they play the game. I'm cool with that. So I'm not bashing anyone except the morons who are bashing the entire game because fleet fights are broken. They need to grow up and realise that constant whinging and destructive behavior only makes things worse for everyone and doesn't accomplish anything except blocking progress.
Well, unless being an obstacle was their entire point.. Then they are just as much your enemy as mine.
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: Ryhss There is no paranoia in Eve, everyone is out to get you....
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Antihrist Pripravnik
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.28 08:42:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba And what makes you think I don't? Can't say I have ever in any post of mine said that fleet fight lag is not something that needs to be fixed asap. I totally recognise that for the core inhabitants of nullsec that its pretty much the only reason they play the game. I'm cool with that. So I'm not bashing anyone except the morons who are bashing the entire game because fleet fights are broken. They need to grow up and realise that constant whinging and destructive behavior only makes things worse for everyone and doesn't accomplish anything except blocking progress.
Well, unless being an obstacle was their entire point.. Then they are just as much your enemy as mine.
Well, for a start, I know my alliance at least has a directive to log in as many player as it is possible on the mass testing events. If you've been there, you could probably see us.
And... ahm... who are "they" exactly? ***hint: take a look at my alliance.***
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.08.28 08:48:00 -
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Originally by: Antihrist Pripravnik
Originally by: Zeba And what makes you think I don't? Can't say I have ever in any post of mine said that fleet fight lag is not something that needs to be fixed asap. I totally recognise that for the core inhabitants of nullsec that its pretty much the only reason they play the game. I'm cool with that. So I'm not bashing anyone except the morons who are bashing the entire game because fleet fights are broken. They need to grow up and realise that constant whinging and destructive behavior only makes things worse for everyone and doesn't accomplish anything except blocking progress.
Well, unless being an obstacle was their entire point.. Then they are just as much your enemy as mine.
Well, for a start, I know my alliance at least has a directive to log in as many player as it is possible on the mass testing events. If you've been there, you could probably see us.
And... ahm... who are "they" exactly? ***hint: take a look at my alliance.***
Have I ever in any post ever named MH as a non contributer to helping kill the lag monster by providing willing pilots for sisi mass testing?
Thank you.
If you want to know who 'they' are just browse that eve vote thread with nearly 90 pages of pure unadulterated emo. ffs toddlers behave better than them..
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: Ryhss There is no paranoia in Eve, everyone is out to get you....
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Antihrist Pripravnik
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.28 08:55:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba Have I ever in any post ever named MH as a non contributer to helping kill the lag monster by providing willing pilots for sisi mass testing?
Thank you.
If you want to know who 'they' are just browse that eve vote thread with nearly 90 pages of pure unadulterated emo. ffs toddlers behave better than them..
Sorry... my bad A little miss understanding from my side.
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