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Wetwater
Beacon Light Corporation Beacon Light Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.27 16:50:00 -
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Looking for exploration sites.
The first thing I noticed was a -10 standing bad guy by the name of Keyanu at the gate.
I did the afterburner plus cloak thing and headed out.
Second thing I noticed was that Keyanu warped off quick. No shame, he probably wasn't gate camping and I took him by surprise.
However, I sat there cloaked and waited. Soon another toon came in and sat in his noobship by the gate. Keyanu then warped in a few seconds later, popped then podded the guy in the noob ship.
He then warped off.
Curious, I sat there cloaked and watched. Sure enough, a few minutes later the noob came back in his noob ship and, a few seconds later Keyanu warps in...pops then pods the noob.
Disgusted, I went into system to explore.
Please please please tell me that you all can detect pathetic attempts to look like a great PvPer like Keyanu's by cheating like this are recognizable.
I get the feeling this happens quite a bit by people not as transparent as Keyanu and so maybe harder to detect. |
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
152
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Posted - 2012.07.27 16:52:00 -
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lol "cheating" |
Rain King
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2012.07.27 16:53:00 -
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I wouldn't call it cheating...more like 'creative bookkeeping'. Another reason why KMs should be deep sixed. |
Dave stark
Bombardier Inc
284
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Posted - 2012.07.27 16:53:00 -
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the salty tang of tears. Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2308
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Posted - 2012.07.27 16:56:00 -
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There is a reason why kill boards don't count rookie ships, shuttles, or often pods as real kills. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
286
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Posted - 2012.07.27 17:29:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:There is a reason why kill boards don't count rookie ships, shuttles, or often pods as real kills.
Yup, i know the RvB killboard list kills followed by real kills which excludes rookie ships (not sure about shuttles or pods, but woujd think so).
That said are you sure it was for kb padding and not griefing a courier mission botter or some off attempt at easy isk from faction warfare? |
Patrakele
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
67
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Posted - 2012.07.27 17:32:00 -
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Most of the pvpers these have manginas so it's not surprising. |
Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.27 17:46:00 -
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Yup that's pretty much sums up lowsec "PvP". ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Wetwater
Beacon Light Corporation Beacon Light Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.27 17:49:00 -
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Lady Ayeipsia wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:There is a reason why kill boards don't count rookie ships, shuttles, or often pods as real kills. Yup, i know the RvB killboard list kills followed by real kills which excludes rookie ships (not sure about shuttles or pods, but woujd think so). That said are you sure it was for kb padding and not griefing a courier mission botter or some off attempt at easy isk from faction warfare?
One can never be certain, but the noob ship uncloaking by the gate and sitting there makes it a high probability. |
Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1650
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Posted - 2012.07.27 17:49:00 -
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Not this kind of thread again.
We ALL know that this is happening. This has been talked about over and over and over again and not a single thread will change anything about it.
And yes, we all know, most people are cowards. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
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Kuehnelt
Devoid Privateering
149
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Posted - 2012.07.27 17:49:00 -
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Wetwater wrote:However, I sat there cloaked and waited. Soon another toon came in and sat in his noobship by the gate. Keyanu then warped in a few seconds later, popped then podded the guy in the noob ship.
He then warped off.
Curious, I sat there cloaked and watched. Sure enough, a few minutes later the noob came back in his noob ship and, a few seconds later Keyanu warps in...pops then pods the noob.
If you wanted to do this, obviously the easiest way would be not not move the killer ship at all - you'd just repeatedly warp the victim ship to the killer. Even easier (in lowsec), but maybe not as obvious, would be to put the killer at an undock BM that's shared with the victim; the victim then just needs to undock, warp to the BM, die, repeat.
Killmails don't care where the kill happened.
So actually I'd guess that there's something else going on here, maybe
1. This pirate is practicing gank fits against weak ships under sentry guns, or
2. The rookie is some kind of someone's surveillance alt and the pirate keeps having to 'police' it. |
Wetwater
Beacon Light Corporation Beacon Light Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.27 17:51:00 -
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Kuehnelt wrote:Wetwater wrote:However, I sat there cloaked and waited. Soon another toon came in and sat in his noobship by the gate. Keyanu then warped in a few seconds later, popped then podded the guy in the noob ship.
He then warped off.
Curious, I sat there cloaked and watched. Sure enough, a few minutes later the noob came back in his noob ship and, a few seconds later Keyanu warps in...pops then pods the noob. If you wanted to do this, obviously the easiest way would be not not move the killer ship at all - you'd just repeatedly warp the victim ship to the killer. Even easier (in lowsec), but maybe not as obvious, would be to put the killer at an undock BM that's shared with the victim; the victim then just needs to undock, warp to the BM, die, repeat. Killmails don't care where the kill happened. So actually I'd guess that there's something else going on here, maybe 1. This pirate is practicing gank fits against weak ships under sentry guns, or 2. The rookie is some kind of someone's surveillance alt and the pirate keeps having to 'police' it.
I figure the warping off was to a safe spot while you are piloting your noob alt to get killed. If he left his kill ship by the gate someone might come along and attack it. |
Kuehnelt
Devoid Privateering
149
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Posted - 2012.07.27 17:55:00 -
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Wetwater wrote:If he left his kill ship by the gate.
he'd have to sit there and take sentry fire. For no reason. This guy is padding his killboard only if he's not aware that you can warp to places in lowsec that don't have sentry guns.
Actually, let me walk that back: he could be wanting to keep an eye on the gate, while still padding his klilboard, and just not know how to share bookmarks / join fleets so that the victim could warp directly to his location off the gate. |
Soundwave Plays Diablo
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
64
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Posted - 2012.07.27 18:04:00 -
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Rain King wrote:I wouldn't call it cheating...more like 'creative bookkeeping'. Another reason why KMs should be deep sixed.
Whoah there fellah...
Anyone who knows how to evewho someone and read their killmails will look at a guy with ****** killmails like that and choose him as their mark.
Its actually a helpful tool in that aspect. IMHO only people who don't understand KM's hate them. |
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
580
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Posted - 2012.07.27 18:06:00 -
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With everyone doing the afterburner, claok trick. What else is he suppose to do down there? I will not be voting in the CSM election, so you need to go vote to make up for me. |
Alara IonStorm
2743
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Posted - 2012.07.27 18:47:00 -
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He was gate Smartbombing in Rancer with a Rokh...
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Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2444
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Posted - 2012.07.27 19:36:00 -
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afterburner plus cloak? lmao (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
9019
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Posted - 2012.07.27 19:49:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:He was gate Smartbombing in Rancer with a Rokh...
I hate those types, it's not real PvP I tell ya and it's immoral.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2445
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Posted - 2012.07.27 20:18:00 -
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It's no way to greet guests Mags. You should set up a nice B&B, market and repair service instead. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Alara IonStorm
2744
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Posted - 2012.07.27 20:25:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:It's no way to greet guests Mags. You should set up a nice B&B, market and repair service instead. I plan to gate camp in the new Mining Frigate.
With those arms I can hug ships as they come through the gate. Lonely EVE Players will be so happy someone cares about them that they will jettison their cargo in thanks.
I call it politracy. |
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
9020
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Posted - 2012.07.27 20:47:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:It's no way to greet guests Mags. You should set up a nice B&B, market and repair service instead. Good idea. I could also include a free tea cosy gift for anyone entering.
Alara IonStorm wrote:I plan to gate camp in the new Mining Frigate. With those arms I can hug ships as they come through the gate. Lonely EVE Players will be so happy someone cares about them that they will jettison their cargo in thanks. I call it politracy. If I may, I might include this policy too. Sounds like fun beans and totally moral.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
1044
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Posted - 2012.07.27 20:57:00 -
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um... wait. why didn't you kill him? http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg |
Private Pineapple
Rifterlings Ushra'Khan
252
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Posted - 2012.07.27 21:10:00 -
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Were the targets in opposing FW factions? I'm curious whether killing a station-given noobship gives LP in FW. Abusable, maybe? Though I think the LP amounts would be way too low... I am the Kingpin of the Crime and Punishment forum.
I am the rightful heir to the CSM 8 throne.
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2310
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Posted - 2012.07.27 21:16:00 -
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Private Pineapple wrote:Were the targets in opposing FW factions? I'm curious whether killing a station-given noobship gives LP in FW. Abusable, maybe? Though I think the LP amounts would be way too low...
I don't believe so, something about the value of the ship being below the insurance payout or some such.
I could be wrong.
I killed either a pod or a shuttle yesterday that gave me that message so I would imagine you'd get the same for a noob ship if nothing was in the cargo hold and if it had "free" modules on it only.
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Shameless Avenger
323
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Posted - 2012.07.27 21:41:00 -
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Stat padding on an online game? Outrageous!
"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro" ~ The Story of the Ninja |
Ariel Dawn
F9X
885
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Posted - 2012.07.27 23:41:00 -
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Kill mails are the SUPER IMPORTANT for plenty of players, while others don't care in the slightest.
I remember early on in EVE when a small gang I was in jumped a raven and the pilot ejected. Instead of selling the ship off, the group decided to have someone with the Caldari BS skill trained board it, then blow it up and change the name of the victim to the pilot that ejected instead because KILLmAILZZZZZ. |
Grumpymunky
Super Monkey Tribe of Danger
416
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Posted - 2012.07.28 02:55:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:I plan to gate camp in the new Mining Frigate. With those arms I can hug ships as they come through the gate. Lonely EVE Players will be so happy someone cares about them that they will jettison their cargo in thanks. I call it politracy. We already have myrmidons for that.
Post with your monkey. |
Ohh Yeah
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
221
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Posted - 2012.07.28 03:03:00 -
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He has nothing to gain and everything to lose from doing this.
If you end up with a ton of kills and are "high ranked" on killboards, people will avoid picking fights with you if they only take those numbers at face value.
If you try to brag about your kills and ~Battleclinic rank~ to anyone, it will take them all of two minutes of digging to realize that most of your kills are fake.
1. Less fights 2. Can't even brag about it
Seems like a pretty bad idea, honestly. |
Jonuts
The Arrow Project
262
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Posted - 2012.07.28 03:08:00 -
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I really don't see the purpose to padding your Kill Board with noob ships. I choose to assume the player isn't COMPLETELY ******** and thus, practicing hit and runs with an alt. Thus sayeth the Jonuts. |
SB Rico
the united Negative Ten.
26
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Posted - 2012.07.28 14:41:00 -
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Unfortunately I know Keyanu Is not stat padding I wish he was cos I am running just behind him on this moth's killboard and would love to get him DQ
Won't tell you why he was doing what he was doing though but there is a good reason. |
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