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Rajheen Orlox
Gallente Vogon Construction Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.09.02 03:46:00 -
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OK, here I am to ask CCP why they won't introduce a mechanism, a skillset that players can use to remove nuisance Cloakers who are only there to ruin the gameplay of other players who are trying to enjoy this game that they pay good money for?
Come on CCP, surely you can admit that almost everyone is sick and tired of being locked down by some griefer in a system when in this game there are many ways available to give us skillsets that can make the balance a little more even.
Cloaking griefers are not players in the whole sense of the word.
They are spoiling the game's strategy because in itself afk cloaking is a strategy that cannot be beaten/defeated at all and that is unfair.
You have balanced many other things in the game and for every armor or shield or power supply there is a way to defeat or enhance, but when it comes to cloaking and going afk nothing can be done and many players are throwing good money after bad on this game to log in and find yet again gametime wasted day after day by the same old cloaky-griefers.
DO SOMETHING TO STOP THIS!! PLEASE!!!!
Raj.
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.09.02 03:51:00 -
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Originally by: Rajheen Orlox OK, here I am to ask CCP why they won't introduce a mechanism, a skillset that players can use to remove nuisance Cloakers who are only there to ruin the gameplay of other players who are trying to enjoy this game that they pay good money for?
Come on CCP, surely you can admit that almost everyone is sick and tired of being locked down by some griefer in a system when in this game there are many ways available to give us skillsets that can make the balance a little more even.
Cloaking griefers are not players in the whole sense of the word.
They are spoiling the game's strategy because in itself afk cloaking is a strategy that cannot be beaten/defeated at all and that is unfair.
You have balanced many other things in the game and for every armor or shield or power supply there is a way to defeat or enhance, but when it comes to cloaking and going afk nothing can be done and many players are throwing good money after bad on this game to log in and find yet again gametime wasted day after day by the same old cloaky-griefers.
DO SOMETHING TO STOP THIS!! PLEASE!!!!
Raj.
It Begins!
-- Tactical Responder who is Organized and a Leading-edge Linguist |
Octavene Ares
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Posted - 2010.09.02 03:52:00 -
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Edited by: Octavene Ares on 02/09/2010 03:53:48 /emote gets out the popcorn and beer
P.S. in before the trolls get here
*edit: Damnit!
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.09.02 03:53:00 -
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Edited by: Lance Fighter on 02/09/2010 03:52:56 Too late, octavene. Too late.
Originally by: CCP Shadow Have you ever wished you could have prevented a train wreck before it actually happened? I need to stop this one before the craziness begins.
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Sergeant Spot
Galactic Geographic BookMark Surveying Inc.
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Posted - 2010.09.02 03:57:00 -
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Personally I don't like the AFK cloakers either, and would laugh if they got nerfed.
But it ain't gonna happen unless the old school 0.0 empire players start finding it impossible to 'reliably' keep their 0.0 industry up and running.
CCP put a massive amount of work, and multiple expansions into getting industry based 0.0 PLAYER empires up and running, but also worked hard to keep 0.0 dangerous.
Understand the above, and it becomes fairly easy to make a good rough guess about what CCP will, or won't do.
(and I would like to see the AFK cloakers nerf sodomized, but I'll be really surprised (and pleased) if it happens)
Having said all that, if you have some brillant idea that keeps things dangerous and does NOT make raiding become suicide, by all means, speak....
Play nice while you butcher each other.
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.09.02 04:08:00 -
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http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1377609
Really the only reason to Nerf Cloaks!
It is sad but I didn't even read your OP and know what it says!
-- Tactical Responder who is Organized and a Leading-edge Linguist |
Rajheen Orlox
Gallente Vogon Construction Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.09.02 04:09:00 -
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Originally by: Sergeant Spot
Having said all that, if you have some brillant idea that keeps things dangerous and does NOT make raiding become suicide, by all means, speak....
Well, I doubt I could have an idea that hasn't been suggested by many others somewhere, I did have a glimmer of an idea where maybe a team skillset would be needed that would allow a determind number of scanning pilots to eventually reveal a cloaked ships position.
Maybe if three or five players were required with level five, advanced, expensive skillsets and very expensive scanner modules needed to reveal a cloaked ship,and some acceptable difficulty to reveal the target then the tables may be turned and the Cloaky-Griefer may feel some of the pressure system players in 0.0 feel when a red is cloaked waiting for them with his hot-dropping mods on.
Surely the strength of feeling about the imbalance of afk cloaking isn't totally apathetic?
Raj.
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.02 04:13:00 -
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There is a mechanic to remove cloakers. Doi. You mean introduce one that benefits YOU.
Then we can get ass****d even harder by gatecampers. No thank you OP, no thank you.
When you say "fanboi" try to picture a fat man doing burlesque with 2 big ass fans that say CCP on one and HTFU on the other. Because that dude is me. |
Rajheen Orlox
Gallente Vogon Construction Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.09.02 04:18:00 -
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Edited by: Rajheen Orlox on 02/09/2010 04:18:50
Originally by: Cipher Jones There is a mechanic to remove cloakers. Doi. You mean introduce one that benefits YOU.
Then we can get ass****d even harder by gatecampers. No thank you OP, no thank you.
I aint asking for a benefit just an even chance to defeat something that CANNOT be defeated at this point in the game.
After all afk Cloaky-griefers have plenty to lose like their pay for being there eh?
Raj.
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.09.02 04:21:00 -
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what about...
catching them before they get to your system
baiting them out
everyone leave so they cant gather any real intel
hint: Think a little bit smarter than you do to run missions.
Originally by: CCP Shadow Have you ever wished you could have prevented a train wreck before it actually happened? I need to stop this one before the craziness begins.
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.02 04:23:00 -
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Originally by: Rajheen Orlox Edited by: Rajheen Orlox on 02/09/2010 04:18:50
Originally by: Cipher Jones There is a mechanic to remove cloakers. Doi. You mean introduce one that benefits YOU.
Then we can get ass****d even harder by gatecampers. No thank you OP, no thank you.
I aint asking for a benefit just an even chance to defeat something that CANNOT be defeated at this point in the game.
After all afk Cloaky-griefers have plenty to lose like their pay for being there eh?
Raj.
What do you have to lose if they are afk? You don't want them to find out you were cybering to 4chan in local chat?
No seriously what is it? When you say "fanboi" try to picture a fat man doing burlesque with 2 big ass fans that say CCP on one and HTFU on the other. Because that dude is me. |
Rajheen Orlox
Gallente Vogon Construction Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.09.02 04:26:00 -
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Originally by: Lance Fighter what about...
catching them before they get to your system
Could never work. You cant possibly seal a system completely and sealing a larger area is dreamland.
baiting them out
really you are not exp[erienced in this are you? Oh heres some cheese, oh didnt work (Cloaky Griefer spotted the trick..)
everyone leave so they cant gather any real intel
It's not intel they are after it's the stymying of ductive mining and industry and even ratting to destroy morale.
hint: Think a little bit smarter than you do to run missions.
Hint: Think a little bit smarter than you just did.
Raj.
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Rajheen Orlox
Gallente Vogon Construction Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.09.02 04:28:00 -
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Edited by: Rajheen Orlox on 02/09/2010 04:31:43 What do you have to lose if they are afk? You don't want them to find out you were cybering to 4chan in local chat?
No seriously what is it? ---------OK--------------- Seriously, they afk most of the time to stop corporations in systems being productive. No more ****** q's please.
Raj.
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.09.02 04:30:00 -
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Originally by: Rajheen Orlox Edited by: Rajheen Orlox on 02/09/2010 04:29:32
Originally by: Lance Fighter what about...
catching them before they get to your system
Could never work. You cant possibly seal a system completely and sealing a larger area is dreamland.
baiting them out
really you are not experienced in this are you? Oh heres some cheese, oh didnt work (Cloaky Griefer spotted the trick..)
everyone leave so they cant gather any real intel
It's not intel they are after it's the stymying of productive mining and industry and even ratting to destroy morale.
hint: Think a little bit smarter than you do to run missions.
Hint: Think a little bit smarter than you just did.
Raj.
Which proves my point, much thanks :)
Originally by: CCP Shadow Have you ever wished you could have prevented a train wreck before it actually happened? I need to stop this one before the craziness begins.
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Aessoroz
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Posted - 2010.09.02 04:35:00 -
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Edited by: Aessoroz on 02/09/2010 04:34:47 I logged into eve just to see if he is an actually that ******ed of a blue. Answer: yes he is.
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Rajheen Orlox
Gallente Vogon Construction Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.09.02 04:36:00 -
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I think you may be missing the point.
Now read it slowly so you miss nothing.
The mechanic in the gameplay is undefeatable.
Nothing else in the game is so totally one-sided.
Therefore it is unbalanced.
I am requesting balance.
Raj.
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Bhattran
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Posted - 2010.09.02 04:37:00 -
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I'm going to become a cloaky griefer because they apparently are invulnerable.
/cloaks in your system... -------------------------------------------------------------- Fanboys would make great cult members. |
Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.09.02 04:37:00 -
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Originally by: Rajheen Orlox I think you may be missing the point.
Now read it slowly so you miss nothing.
The mechanic in the gameplay is undefeatable.
Nothing else in the game is so totally one-sided.
Therefore it is unbalanced.
I am requesting balance.
Raj.
And the answer is NO, find one of the 50 other threads and post in it!
-- Tactical Responder who is Organized and a Leading-edge Linguist |
Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.02 04:37:00 -
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Originally by: Bhattran I'm going to become a cloaky griefer because they apparently are invulnerable.
/cloaks in your system...
Me 2 Signature locked for editing a moderator's warning. Zymurgist |
Aessoroz
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Posted - 2010.09.02 04:37:00 -
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Originally by: Rajheen Orlox I think you may be missing the point.
Now read it slowly so you miss nothing.
The mechanic in the gameplay is undefeatable.
Nothing else in the game is so totally one-sided.
Therefore it is unbalanced.
I am requesting balance.
Raj.
It's is unbeatable, you do realize that bombers are paper ****in thin right? Any ratter with brains and that doesn't afk can pop it.
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.09.02 04:39:00 -
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damn, wheres AFK Cloaker when you need him..
Originally by: CCP Shadow Have you ever wished you could have prevented a train wreck before it actually happened? I need to stop this one before the craziness begins.
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.09.02 04:40:00 -
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Originally by: Lance Fighter damn, wheres AFK Cloaker when you need him..
Put up the Meme signal!
-- Tactical Responder who is Organized and a Leading-edge Linguist |
Aessoroz
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Posted - 2010.09.02 04:41:00 -
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Edited by: Aessoroz on 02/09/2010 04:44:24 <nvm>
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Rajheen Orlox
Gallente Vogon Construction Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.09.02 04:41:00 -
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Originally by: Aessoroz
It's is unbeatable, you do realize that bombers are paper ****in thin right? Any ratter with brains and that doesn't afk can pop it.
What are you waffling on about? There are other ships than cloakers... Jeez man try to be clever elsewhere.. lol
Raj.
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Trig Shera
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Posted - 2010.09.02 04:41:00 -
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Downtime, your problem is solved. Stop being such a carebear that a solo bomber can kill you. Oh and in before afk cloaker
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2010.09.02 04:41:00 -
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AFK cloaking only works against noob fail alliances. These alliances are full of massively fail dolts that will not cooperate with their alliance or anyone else really. They don't get into intel channels, they don't use voice comms, they just go around 0.0 pve'ing solo in stupidly expensive fit ships and die while anyone with a couple of brain cells do not.
You could easily have a few members get into recon ships or into a counter drop squad or god forbid actually gather in a group for safety and do PvE activities.
But no, you are too greedy to do such things. You want to solo in your carrier in 0.0 and do sanctums risk-free. If a hostile ever comes into local, you dock up and/or log. AFK cloaking evolved as a tactic because it was the only method available to catch a lot of 0.0 residents.
If you live in 0.0 you should have to fight for it. This is EVE, this is 0.0, this is conflict, this is pvp. If you cannot handle it then HTFU or GTFO. - It's not "Play through a pre-set story, become stronger, do endgame". Gameplay is open ended, and you make your own story. Unless you're too afraid of 'pvp grief' to do anything relevant |
Rajheen Orlox
Gallente Vogon Construction Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.09.02 04:45:00 -
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Originally by: Lance Fighter damn, wheres AFK Cloaker when you need him..
You would probably know better than I.. I can smell your distaste at the thought of losing an easy income.
It will be so lovely when they do make Cloaky-Griefer a thing of the past as surely they must.
Raj.
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AFK Cloaker
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2010.09.02 04:46:00 -
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.09.02 04:48:00 -
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^.^
Originally by: CCP Shadow Have you ever wished you could have prevented a train wreck before it actually happened? I need to stop this one before the craziness begins.
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Rajheen Orlox
Gallente Vogon Construction Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.09.02 04:50:00 -
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Edited by: Rajheen Orlox on 02/09/2010 04:52:03
Originally by: Vaal Erit AFK cloaking only works against noob fail alliances. These alliances are full of massively fail dolts that will not cooperate with their alliance or anyone else really. They don't get into intel channels, they don't use voice comms, they just go around 0.0 pve'ing solo in stupidly expensive fit ships and die while anyone with a couple of brain cells do not.
You could easily have a few members get into recon ships or into a counter drop squad or god forbid actually gather in a group for safety and do PvE activities.
But no, you are too greedy to do such things. You want to solo in your carrier in 0.0 and do sanctums risk-free. If a hostile ever comes into local, you dock up and/or log. AFK cloaking evolved as a tactic because it was the only method available to catch a lot of 0.0 residents.
If you live in 0.0 you should have to fight for it. This is EVE, this is 0.0, this is conflict, this is pvp. If you cannot handle it then HTFU or GTFO.
What a load of absolute rot.
You would have that we have to play the game in your way and turn ourselves into little regiments that you insist will make us all better?
It doesnt matter what plans you make or prepare against Cloaky-Griefers you cannot call it even when one player has the ability to destroy so much gameplay for so many people because an ommision in game play mechanichs balancing has given him an inestimable advantage.
All your tough talk and spouting is no reason to have a mechanic that is totally utterly one sided in the game. If I were to bring several dozen ships in to reveal a Cloaky-Griefer who is to say that we could ever have him reveal himself? You talk B***ocks.
Raj.
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