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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Damu'Khonde
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Posted - 2010.09.05 20:20:00 -
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Edited by: General Windypops on 05/09/2010 20:21:35
Originally by: Nostradamous I have no idea whats going on here.....and i'm defiantly too lazy to reading all that!
TBH Nosty it's worth a quick scan purely to chuckle at the supposedly *cough* neutral terribly scary mercenary alliance that is Pandemic Lunchbox having to desperately defend their 'employer' for their imbecility and provide them with a political figleaf. I hope they take on more *cough* contracts for russian speaking alliances so that we can watch them falling all over each other to explain to us why it was money well spent.
If PL keep getting this personally tangled up with the politics of their wars they're going to struggle to find any employers tbh.
Edit: Snypa!!!
Twitter:@genrlwindypops
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Zdrahonul Gallentor
Gallente RennTech Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.09.05 20:42:00 -
[92]
Well... Allow me to throw in some statements. I'm just doing this because it's late here and I am waiting for some stuff to finish compiling so... boredom is the reason for posting. It all started a while ago when HTA was holding some systems in Insmother, specifically TTP, XO and LVL. Pandemic Legion invaded TTP first to establish a bidge head into Insmother. HTA Alliance, back then having almost 3000 members, was not prepared for the invasion, let alone having the same level of organization Pandemic Legion had. HTA did their best to fight back, but they couldn't resist PL. I was in HTA at the time, PL were reds but I respected their ability to fight. Not their smacktalk but that's another story :) Anyway, HTA asked for help from Atlas. Atlas came once to put a PL POS in Reinforced mode, then came one more time to defend a Scalding Pass station but left as soon as the station came out of Reinforced. At that very moment, the HTA leader took a very bad decision: attempt to take the station when PL activity had peaked only 7 jumps away. Of course PL came and took the station, with Atlas being nowhere at that moment. Why this whole story? Because in my opinion, Atlas leadership have shown to prefer an arrogant approach to both pet alliances (yes, HTA was one of them) and their own member corps. I would guess the same applies to attitude towards other alliances, both friends or foes. Look where that attitude took them... I don't really care about the outcome of this whole story, but I can say that Atlas kind of deserved it. Good luck, Atlas, good luck, PL, good luck XIX and RA, wherever your (seemingly crossing) paths will lead you. After all, it's all a game, a very complex and interesting one. Even when stained by human presence :) ...gis sdrawkcaB |
HarrietMiers
Minmatar Helljumpers Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.09.05 21:17:00 -
[93]
Edited by: HarrietMiers on 05/09/2010 21:19:02
Originally by: General Windypops Drivel
1. You are under a forum ban. You should follow it. (Thanks in advance.)
2. You should grow a set of balls and post with your main.
3. No one gives a flying **** about you, your twitter account, or your 5 year long white knighting of Bob/It, least of all them. Post with your IT main or gtfo.
Cheers.
Edit - 4. You can't edit in a sniper. Learn to post.
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ByFeve
Caldari Big Shadows Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.05 21:33:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Zdrahonul Gallentor Well... Allow me to throw in some statements. I'm just doing this because it's late here and I am waiting for some stuff to finish compiling so... boredom is the reason for posting. It all started a while ago when HTA was holding some systems in Insmother, specifically TTP, XO and LVL. Pandemic Legion invaded TTP first to establish a bidge head into Insmother. HTA Alliance, back then having almost 3000 members, was not prepared for the invasion, let alone having the same level of organization Pandemic Legion had. HTA did their best to fight back, but they couldn't resist PL. I was in HTA at the time, PL were reds but I respected their ability to fight. Not their smacktalk but that's another story :) Anyway, HTA asked for help from Atlas. Atlas came once to put a PL POS in Reinforced mode, then came one more time to defend a Scalding Pass station but left as soon as the station came out of Reinforced. At that very moment, the HTA leader took a very bad decision: attempt to take the station when PL activity had peaked only 7 jumps away. Of course PL came and took the station, with Atlas being nowhere at that moment. Why this whole story? Because in my opinion, Atlas leadership have shown to prefer an arrogant approach to both pet alliances (yes, HTA was one of them) and their own member corps. I would guess the same applies to attitude towards other alliances, both friends or foes. Look where that attitude took them... I don't really care about the outcome of this whole story, but I can say that Atlas kind of deserved it. Good luck, Atlas, good luck, PL, good luck XIX and RA, wherever your (seemingly crossing) paths will lead you. After all, it's all a game, a very complex and interesting one. Even when stained by human presence :)
Sadly about this matter I have to totally agree with you, and I'm sorry to say that Atlas was that way to our renters.
Bobby together with a bunch of the leaders that were more active/forward in leadership had an attitude about this game that good morale integrity had nothing to do with this game if you wanted to come somewhere, together with an attitude that renters were down the ladder and we didn't really care about their problems - at least not if we didn't risk to loose them (the income).
Myself and leaders from other corps never liked this, but sadly it's often this more "angry" people who are in charge so we with another point of view get little say in matters. The "we do what we want, we don't care" attitude might work fine in times when we got leaders that are active with visions and fights are won - but when the **** hits the fan I mean we reap what we have sow.
I'm certain Bobby and others would explain what happened different, and we never get any proofs here - but if we supported our renters more I'm certain they had done more to help us when needed, and could have been stronger at this point as well. That's the old law about reap what you sow to me.
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Damu'Khonde
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Posted - 2010.09.05 21:52:00 -
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Originally by: HarrietMiers Edited by: HarrietMiers on 05/09/2010 21:19:02
Originally by: General Windypops Drivel
1. You are under a forum ban. You should follow it. (Thanks in advance.)
2. You should grow a set of balls and post with your main.
3. No one gives a flying **** about you, your twitter account, or your 5 year long white knighting of Bob/It, least of all them. Post with your IT main or gtfo.
Cheers.
Edit - 4. You can't edit in a sniper. Learn to post.
Wow, you certainly know a lot more about me than I do about you.
Twitter:@genrlwindypops
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HarrietMiers
Minmatar Helljumpers Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.09.05 22:02:00 -
[96]
Edited by: HarrietMiers on 05/09/2010 22:03:11
Originally by: General Windypops
Originally by: HarrietMiers Edited by: HarrietMiers on 05/09/2010 21:19:02
Originally by: General Windypops Drivel
1. You are under a forum ban. You should follow it. (Thanks in advance.)
2. You should grow a set of balls and post with your main.
3. No one gives a flying **** about you, your twitter account, or your 5 year long white knighting of Bob/It, least of all them. Post with your IT main or gtfo.
Cheers.
Edit - 4. You can't edit in a sniper. Learn to post.
Wow, you certainly know a lot more about me than I do about you.
Does it really matter who I am? (Edit: just to be clear, this is my main) My points stand. You are a bitter bitter little alt and have been for years. Why don't you man up and post with your main?
Until then you are no better than Snot Shot or Bismaru.
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Damu'Khonde
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Posted - 2010.09.05 22:22:00 -
[97]
Originally by: HarrietMiers Edited by: HarrietMiers on 05/09/2010 22:03:11
Originally by: General Windypops
Originally by: HarrietMiers Edited by: HarrietMiers on 05/09/2010 21:19:02
Originally by: General Windypops Drivel
1. You are under a forum ban. You should follow it. (Thanks in advance.)
2. You should grow a set of balls and post with your main.
3. No one gives a flying **** about you, your twitter account, or your 5 year long white knighting of Bob/It, least of all them. Post with your IT main or gtfo.
Cheers.
Edit - 4. You can't edit in a sniper. Learn to post.
Wow, you certainly know a lot more about me than I do about you.
Does it really matter who I am? (Edit: just to be clear, this is my main) My points stand. You are a bitter bitter little alt and have been for years. Why don't you man up and post with your main?
Until then you are no better than Snot Shot or Bismaru.
Butter Dog's alt trying to troll me. Calling it now. Nah nah nah nah nah.
You're probably right, who you are doesn't matter.
Twitter:@genrlwindypops
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HarrietMiers
Minmatar Helljumpers Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.09.05 22:27:00 -
[98]
Probably.
I can tell you what I'm definitely right about though:
You are a spineless little BOB fanboi who is too scared to post with his main.
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Dianeces
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.09.06 05:26:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Piper Halliwell
Originally by: Krutoj PL will do what we paid them for and we will continue to pay them to wipe them off the face of the map.
There I fixed that for you bro. I never saw you or your crappy ****ing alliance there, so sod off, m'kay cupcake :)
You are literally less intelligent than a box of hammers.
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Aeternus IV
Amarr The Ankou Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.09.06 07:21:00 -
[100]
Originally by: ByFeve
Originally by: Zdrahonul Gallentor Well... It all started a while ago when HTA was holding some systems in Insmother, specifically TTP, XO and LVL. Pandemic Legion invaded TTP first to establish a bidge head into Insmother. HTA Alliance, back then having almost 3000 members, was not prepared for the invasion, let alone having the same level of organization Pandemic Legion had. HTA did their best to fight back, but they couldn't resist PL. I was in HTA at the time, PL were reds but I respected their ability to fight. Not their smacktalk but that's another story :) Anyway, HTA asked for help from Atlas. Atlas came once to put a PL POS in Reinforced mode, then came one more time to defend a Scalding Pass station but left as soon as the station came out of Reinforced. At that very moment, the HTA leader took a very bad decision: attempt to take the station when PL activity had peaked only 7 jumps away. Of course PL came and took the station, with Atlas being nowhere at that moment. Why this whole story? Because in my opinion, Atlas leadership have shown to prefer an arrogant approach to both pet alliances (yes, HTA was one of them) and their own member corps. I would guess the same applies to attitude towards other alliances, both friends or foes. Look where that attitude took them... I don't really care about the outcome of this whole story, but I can say that Atlas kind of deserved it. :)
Sadly about this matter I have to totally agree with you, and I'm sorry to say that Atlas was that way to our renters.
Bobby together with a bunch of the leaders that were more active/forward in leadership had an attitude about this game that good morale integrity had nothing to do with this game if you wanted to come somewhere, together with an attitude that renters were down the ladder and we didn't really care about their problems - at least not if we didn't risk to loose them (the income).
Myself and leaders from other corps never liked this, but sadly it's often this more "angry" people who are in charge so we with another point of view get little say in matters. The "we do what we want, we don't care" attitude might work fine in times when we got leaders that are active with visions and fights are won - but when the **** hits the fan I mean we reap what we have sow.
I'm certain Bobby and others would explain what happened different, and we never get any proofs here - but if we supported our renters more I'm certain they had done more to help us when needed, and could have been stronger at this point as well. That's the old law about reap what you sow to me.
I started out as an Atlas renter and when I was allowed to join I thought I was fairly lucky at the time. However, I know from experience that most of the people in the alliance apart from BIGSH, whom I actually got along with, were elitest and looked down on the renters. I don't recall a single time where Atlas sworked to help their renters when it did not threaten Atlas itself. Whereas the renters at one point banded together and started creating some formidable forces that, once they had had time to train, could have become very effective. The renters took back wicked creek.Atlas showed up at the end to take the stations, and used their renters as meatshields. It actually hurt to have to order my pilots to jump into a gatecamp and get grid-load pwned while atlas warped in from the other direction to clean up. As said, HTA and the other pets didn't really hhave the orginization but they had the will, and had Atlas not alienated their renters and run off the renters' FC's who had the experience and the respect of several (I'm talking dozens of corps and alliances) of the renters, then I believe this whole situation would have gone an entirely different way. Atlas got what they deserve, and I only regret not being there to help kick them out. But hey, perhaps I'm just a bitter spai?
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Betty Boom
Caldari SPECTRE Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.09.06 07:31:00 -
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Originally by: HarrietMiers Probably.
I can tell you what I'm definitely right about though:
You are a spineless little BOB fanboi who is too scared to post with his main.
Your char is 5 month old and you call someone, who is active here since years and well-know ... an alt.
Please share your wisdom with us and proof it, Miss Alt. Or better - Stop trolling!
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HarrietMiers
Minmatar Helljumpers Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.09.06 07:37:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Betty Boom
Originally by: HarrietMiers Probably.
I can tell you what I'm definitely right about though:
You are a spineless little BOB fanboi who is too scared to post with his main.
Your char is 5 month old and you call someone, who is active here since years and well-know ... an alt.
Please share your wisdom with us and proof it, Miss Alt. Or better - Stop trolling!
Sold my old char about a year ago. Have been playing off and on since 03. This has been my main for the past 5 months. Rediscovering Eve the old fashioned way. It's kind of fun being a noob again.
"Hit me up in game" as they say, I'll be happy to chat.
Point is, Windy has been alt posting for years mindlessly cheering for bob, even when the T20 Scandal broke. Occasionally he is funny, but the fact that he hides behind an alt and is constantly bitter/**** posting every PL thread is pathetic and needed be pointed out.
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Osric Wuscfrea
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.09.06 08:23:00 -
[103]
:popcorn:
Enjoying the tears and the frothing haters.
Oh, and this.
Dead-Fish, Deep Sea Daddies...
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Rick Rothsar
Minmatar Ghosts of Ragnarok Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2010.09.06 08:47:00 -
[104]
All this thread needs is an Atlas supercap pilot RMT'ing out for a new ninja bike and then we'll have a truly legendary thread.
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Xenuchrist
Gallente STK Scientific
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Posted - 2010.09.06 11:40:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Rick Rothsar All this thread needs is an Atlas supercap pilot RMT'ing out for a new ninja bike and then we'll have a truly legendary thread.
Heh. On a non-EVE-related forum, an Atlas SC-pilot (and self-claimed trade mogul) recently claimed to have RMT'ed 52K USD worth of ISK... > >
-- "In human stupidity, when it is not malicious, there is something very touching, even beautiful... There always is." /Tolstoy |
Guardian Decsendent
Caldari Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.06 11:43:00 -
[106]
Caod it starts to be fun again . ----
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Zdrahonul Gallentor
Gallente RennTech Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.09.06 14:20:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Aeternus IV
Originally by: ByFeve [...]an attitude that renters were down the ladder and we didn't really care about their problems [...]
[...]I don't recall a single time where Atlas sworked to help their renters when it did not threaten Atlas itself.[...]used their renters as meatshields.[...]
Mostly every big, sov-holding alliance out there does the same, be it from the south or in NC. Some do this more "in-your-face", some appear to care but are cunning enough to act the same way, in essence. It's just how it is, and sadly smaller or less PvP-oriented alliance have no choice. EVE is a violent universe, and the less violent have little choice if they want to either do what they prefer to do or just "fatten their wallets", so to speak. There's no "caring" 0.0 owning alliance out there. Renters are and will always be one-step-less-than-slaves; small 0.0 owning corps/alliances will be looked down at; it's just the EVE way, and it's just how game mechanics work. I just want to reiterate the fact that EVE is a beautiful universe... even when populated by players ...gis sdrawkcaB |
Muul Udonii
Minmatar THORN Syndicate Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.09.06 16:36:00 -
[108]
I have to say; the more this rolls on, the more I'm liking Pandemic Legion.
Major funny, guys keep it up!
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Nostradamous
Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2010.09.06 17:53:00 -
[109]
ummmm.....
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Damu'Khonde
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Posted - 2010.09.06 20:54:00 -
[110]
Edited by: General Windypops on 06/09/2010 20:55:29
Originally by: HarrietMiers Windy has been alt posting for years mindlessly cheering for bob, even when the T20 Scandal broke. Occasionally he is funny, but the fact that he hides behind an alt and is constantly bitter/**** posting every PL thread is pathetic and needed be pointed out.
I both saddened and troubled to hear that my posting has made you mad. I can honestly assure you that if I thought (even a second) that I had angered even the lowliest of CAODenizens with my posts I would have wiped the spittle from the corner of my mouth, taken a deep breath and released the F5 key.
I shall clearly have to post more frequently but cheerily to redeem myself. I only hope that this picture of a cute puppy in some way helps to brighten up your day.
Glad we've cleared that up. Can we get back on topic now? Do we know what the total amount that Atlas stole from the agreement was?
Twitter:@genrlwindypops
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HarrietMiers
Minmatar Helljumpers Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.09.06 20:58:00 -
[111]
Took you over half a day to respond with a dog picture and a pretty blatant attempt at deflection?
Post with your IT main windy. You're just another Snot Shot.
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Damu'Khonde
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Posted - 2010.09.06 22:08:00 -
[112]
Edited by: General Windypops on 06/09/2010 22:09:18
Originally by: HarrietMiers Took you over half a day to respond with a dog picture and a pretty blatant attempt at deflection?
Post with your IT main windy. You're just another Snot Shot.
To be fair though, Angelonico, you've had far more than half a day to work out some decent responses - you ebayed your 'main' months ago. Disappointing to see your 'comeback' posts being so dull.
Edit: Occured to me that maybe you're a cat person? Have included cat. Hope it stimulates you to better posting.
Twitter:@genrlwindypops
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HarrietMiers
Minmatar Helljumpers Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.09.06 22:17:00 -
[113]
Edited by: HarrietMiers on 06/09/2010 22:17:17 I'm sorry, I can't hear you over your alt posting. You'll have to speak up.
Grow a pair windy.
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Damu'Khonde
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Posted - 2010.09.06 22:42:00 -
[114]
Originally by: HarrietMiers Edited by: HarrietMiers on 06/09/2010 22:25:09 I'm sorry, I can't hear you over your alt posting. You'll have to speak up.
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=General+Windypops
Ship built for fighting?
Fighting what exactly, the forums? It's been 5 years. Post with your main.
I've never heard of this website on the information superhighway called 'battleclinic' - thanks for pointing it out to me. It must be broken, however, as it shows no record of you killing anything ever? I'm sure you can contact the Web MASTER and get that fixed.
Since you don't seem to like kittens OR puppies, but I am getting quite upset now. I've tried everything to make you like me and you still don't want to be my friend Angelonico.
In desperation, therefore, I shall post this picture of a baby hamster begging for friendship. If this doesn't work I'll slit my wrists.
Twitter:@genrlwindypops
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HarrietMiers
Minmatar Helljumpers Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.09.06 22:45:00 -
[115]
Still hiding behind an alt?
What's wrong windy? Scared?
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Damu'Khonde
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Posted - 2010.09.06 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: HarrietMiers Still hiding behind an alt?
What's wrong windy? Scared?
Wow. Your posts got dull fast.
Twitter:@genrlwindypops
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HarrietMiers
Minmatar Helljumpers Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.09.07 00:14:00 -
[117]
Edited by: HarrietMiers on 07/09/2010 00:19:36
Originally by: General Windypops
Originally by: HarrietMiers Still hiding behind an alt?
What's wrong windy? Scared?
Wow. Your posts got dull fast.
Irony overload.
Also, I'll take that as a yes? You're a gutless little ****ant too scared to post with your main?
Thanks for confirming.
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nunun
Caldari North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.09.07 00:36:00 -
[118]
it was funny to see ur leaders fighting about deals but i don`t want to post it here tho was good fight all and see u soon some where in EVE GL with what u got left Atlas see u all ....
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CARY
Caldari Battlestars Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.09.07 01:18:00 -
[119]
ATLAS.............LOL...................ATLAS
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HarrietMiers
Minmatar Helljumpers Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.09.07 01:31:00 -
[120]
Originally by: CARY CARY.............LOL...................BATTLESTARS
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