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Awesome Possum
Gallente Isk Relocation Services Stratagem.
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Posted - 2010.09.07 18:40:00 -
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Edited by: Awesome Possum on 07/09/2010 18:41:36 S Edited by: Awesome Possum on 07/09/2010 18:41:15 N Edited by: Awesome Possum on 07/09/2010 18:41:11 I Edited by: Awesome Possum on 07/09/2010 18:40:59 P Edited by: Awesome Possum on 07/09/2010 18:40:39 E
Originally by: NRKey Srsly, that's the kind of behaviour that leads to offices/colleges getting shot up.
You take this game way too seriously and/or have a skewed view of reality. CCP should delete your account for your safety and ours. ♥
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Zeta Zhul
Caldari Preemptive Paranoia
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Posted - 2010.09.07 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: Omara Otawan If you actually think about it, advertising the horribly flawed corporation and alliance management system as a feature has to be a genius move.
Reorienting bugs as features describes my career as a computer programmer...
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Zeta Zhul
Caldari Preemptive Paranoia
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Posted - 2010.09.07 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound ... Anyway, it is just a promo video to get new customers into EVE. EVE itself was designed by the devil and to prepare the living for hell. You cannot promote it by any means but a lie.
So Jita-4-4 is actually the 8th Circle of Hell (fraud)?
...
Ok I can see that.
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Barron Hammerstrike
Minmatar Intergang
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Posted - 2010.09.07 21:19:00 -
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This is EVE and in EVE these things happen
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Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2010.09.07 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: Creepy CousinRoger I've never seen so many pantywaists get sand in their woman parts from a trailer
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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Aerilis
Gallente Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.09.07 21:38:00 -
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Betrayal in the way CCP portrayed it in the trailer is fine. If you want to dedicate that much work, to earn the trust of an alliance only to take it apart, by all means go ahead.
What's ****ing ******ed is that a director can get bored or ****ed off, hit a button, and instantly disband an alliance. Like wtf.
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.08 02:21:00 -
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2010.09.08 02:26:00 -
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Originally by: Intense Thinker Any notice of editing text automatically voids a page snipe
He knows... I suspect it was to TROLL ME YOU ****ER!!!! I KEEL YOU!!
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.09.08 03:03:00 -
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Originally by: Intense Thinker Any notice of editing text automatically voids a page snipe
It was a pretty original attempt though you have to admit.
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: Ryhss There is no paranoia in Eve, everyone is out to get you....
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Bankoff DarkFusion
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Posted - 2010.09.10 14:59:00 -
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CCP is a pretty sick group. It's all about promoting the cold dark harshness, the thieves, etc. We're supposed to believe that lying, stealing, and betraying is the best way to play the game. And of course if we mention the fact that people who will screw you over in a game will do the same in real life, we get the chorus of namecallers - they're all here in the thread. It's pathetic that there are so many people in this game who can't enjoy it with messing up somebody else's day.
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ThaoLai
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.09.10 18:57:00 -
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Originally by: trenny jr Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my Merlin. Prepare to disband.
LOL +1 internets
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Tryce Jior
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Posted - 2010.09.10 19:47:00 -
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I do believe that CCP's intent was to point out the sheer massiveness of the options open to you upon playing EVE.
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SFX Bladerunner
Minmatar Black Serpent Technologies R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.09.10 20:14:00 -
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Hello CCP, you have nerfed my nanophoon.
Prepare to disband your company.
That is all. __________________________________________________
History is much like an endless waltz, the three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever.. |
kiki mo
Caldari Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.09.10 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: Jonathan Goldsmith I don't normally post on the Eve Forums, but when I do... I prefer C&P.
haha, I got one better...
if you watch this trailer backwards, it's about an alliance that comes together, then a guy puts a bunch of money into the wallet and gradually reduces his power and influence until he gets put into a clone tank and then appears in a merlin out of an explosion.
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Dave Daze
Minmatar Thor's Spite
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Posted - 2010.09.10 23:56:00 -
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causality
Cause and effect. You mess with me, I mess with your Alliance!
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SFX Bladerunner
Minmatar Black Serpent Technologies R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.09.11 01:27:00 -
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Edited by: SFX Bladerunner on 11/09/2010 01:30:23
Originally by: Dave Daze http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causality
Cause and effect. You mess with me, I mess with your Alliance!
Actually Causality goes a bit beyond your tiny ambitions of disbanding a srsbsns spazezhip alliance.
Causality, in other words, cause and effect, tells us that nothing from nothing leaves nothing. Everything happens for a reason. An atom doesn't just decide to change its course out of thin air, it does so because it is bumped by other particles.
This is also why the word 'random' is a very confusing term, and would be be explained as "an effect with an unpredictable/unmeasurable cause".
'Real' random simply does not exist.
This is also why there is no such thing as luck, or nonsense like multiple 'timelines' or 'dimensions' spawning for every possible scenario as for one scenario there is only one course and one way it can play out.
This also means that the entire history, present and future of our world and in fact the entire galaxy as we know it has been predetermined since the beginning of time (if there is such a thing).
It also means that if you were capable of making a 'snapshot' of the location, vectors, waves and everything from every particle, energy, anti-energy/particle etc etc in the universe you could predict the future into infinity but also look back into the past into infinity.
'Choice', the way most people look at it, simply does not exist. You might think that at any given time you have the 'choice' to go left or right, but whichever you pick has been predetermined by all of your experiences leading up to that point which make you choose either or the other.
I've received a lot of opposition from most people I explain my above theories to but for some reason I simply don't get why.
If any of you can provide a nice rebuttal to my above reasoning I'd love to hear it
On-topic:
Your little self getting butthurt over losing a hulk or two hardly seems like enough justification to mess up an entire alliance. This notion kind of bugs me. You (guys) really deem yourself so important as to place your own ship(s)/ore/pods/e-peens over the entire collective structure that governs an alliance of multiple corporations and members?
Talk about egos/ignorance...
*goes back to smoking pot* __________________________________________________
History is much like an endless waltz, the three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever.. |
Ronnie Smith
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Posted - 2010.09.11 02:24:00 -
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Originally by: SFX Bladerunner Edited by: SFX Bladerunner on 11/09/2010 01:30:23
Originally by: Dave Daze http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causality
Cause and effect. You mess with me, I mess with your Alliance!
Actually Causality goes a bit beyond your tiny ambitions of disbanding a srsbsns spazezhip alliance.
Causality, in other words, cause and effect, tells us that nothing from nothing leaves nothing. Everything happens for a reason. An atom doesn't just decide to change its course out of thin air, it does so because it is bumped by other particles.
This is also why the word 'random' is a very confusing term, and would be be explained as "an effect with an unpredictable/unmeasurable cause".
'Real' random simply does not exist.
This is also why there is no such thing as luck, or nonsense like multiple 'timelines' or 'dimensions' spawning for every possible scenario as for one scenario there is only one course and one way it can play out.
This also means that the entire history, present and future of our world and in fact the entire galaxy as we know it has been predetermined since the beginning of time (if there is such a thing).
It also means that if you were capable of making a 'snapshot' of the location, vectors, waves and everything from every particle, energy, anti-energy/particle etc etc in the universe you could predict the future into infinity but also look back into the past into infinity.
'Choice', the way most people look at it, simply does not exist. You might think that at any given time you have the 'choice' to go left or right, but whichever you pick has been predetermined by all of your experiences leading up to that point which make you choose either or the other.
I've received a lot of opposition from most people I explain my above theories to but for some reason I simply don't get why.
If any of you can provide a nice rebuttal to my above reasoning I'd love to hear it
On-topic:
Your little self getting butthurt over losing a hulk or two hardly seems like enough justification to mess up an entire alliance. This notion kind of bugs me. You (guys) really deem yourself so important as to place your own ship(s)/ore/pods/e-peens over the entire collective structure that governs an alliance of multiple corporations and members?
Talk about egos/ignorance...
*goes back to smoking pot*
Did we just get Touched by an Athiest?
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Dave Daze
Minmatar Thor's Spite
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Posted - 2010.09.11 04:50:00 -
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He had to much pot, now hes rambling. Cause > Effect
Ps, Pass the bong!
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Ryan Easte
Caldari Extreme Caution Ltd
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Posted - 2010.09.11 11:39:00 -
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Im lost for words that sound intelligent enough to comment propperly here but for those that get me, I dont agree with the original poster, i see it as a valid part of eve and what goes around comes around.. the video in my opinon is the birth of the ultimate master revenge plan that alot upon first seeing it prob thought "dam I should have done that!" I had that exact thought and it just made me love the depth of eve even more, you just can't see whats comming.
Pirates, Ninja Salvagers, Scams like this .. makes the game evolve and work.. Good vs evil. What will you decide?
thats my 2isk anyway
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Ryan Easte
Caldari Extreme Caution Ltd
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Posted - 2010.09.11 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Tryce Jior I do believe that CCP's intent was to point out the sheer massiveness of the options open to you upon playing EVE.
and I agree with this too
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Zia Aiz
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Posted - 2010.09.11 12:47:00 -
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For all you CEO's, directors and people with the ability to give hangar roles out there.
- Make an alt on your second account.
- Get recruited in your own corp with your alt.
- Pretend to be another player and make some friends on your alt.
- Give your alt roles, so to speak earned by being a nice guy.
- Steal all corp assets with your alt.
- Blame your own alt & kick him.
Rinse & repeat.
You just gained yourself millions or billions and blamed it on your own alt who nobody knew is related to your CEO (or director,...) main.
Is this a legal way of playing? If so, how is this supporting players to join corporations and trust people?
And if it's not a legal way of playing, what is preventing someone to execute the above steps and scam their own.
Just saying that this 1 player being able to screw over thousands and nothing in game mechanics that prevents this is going a bit to far.
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Saul Reaver
Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.09.11 12:57:00 -
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I agree with the OP. CCP has sunk to a new low.
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Mister Screwball
Minmatar True Slave Foundations
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Posted - 2010.09.11 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Helicity Boson
Originally by: ForU2nV
An no iĈm not just some little carebear whiner
I respectfully disagree with this statement.
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Awesome Possum
Gallente Isk Relocation Services Stratagem.
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Posted - 2010.09.11 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Torrin
Originally by: Intense Thinker Any notice of editing text automatically voids a page snipe
He knows... I suspect it was to TROLL ME YOU ****ER!!!! I KEEL YOU!!
i ♥ you ♥
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Goa'Tnigoe
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Posted - 2010.09.13 08:34:00 -
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Originally by: SFX BladerunnerActually Causality goes a bit beyond your tiny ambitions of disbanding a srsbsns spazezhip alliance.
This is also why there is no such thing as luck, or nonsense like multiple 'timelines' or 'dimensions' spawning for every possible scenario as for one scenario there is only one course and one way it can play out.[/quote
The "many worlds" theory has a good reputation among cosmologists, but not in the form you stated here.
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This also means that the entire history, present and future of our world and in fact the entire galaxy as we know it has been predetermined since the beginning of time (if there is such a thing).
The if statement makes your argument hard to follow. Also, what about other galaxies? Are they pre-determined too? Is this valid for the entire universe?
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It also means that if you were capable of making a 'snapshot' of the location, vectors, waves and everything from every particle, energy, anti-energy/particle etc etc in the universe you could predict the future into infinity but also look back into the past into infinity.
Actually, you can't. The universe is anything but deterministic, as described by quantum mechanics. Einstein had a relly big problem with this idea but he could not refute it.
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Your little self getting butthurt over losing a hulk or two hardly seems like enough justification to mess up an entire alliance.
Having lost a number of expensive ships myself, destroying an alliance is absolutely not out of proportion as a means of retribution.
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You (guys) really deem yourself so important as to place your own ship(s)/ore/pods/e-peens over the entire collective structure that governs an alliance of multiple corporations and members?
Absolutely. Why would my ambition be less than that of an alliance. And by the way, if you absolutely must go there: the entire 'collective structure' of an alliance would be much easier to take seriously if they weren't a grade A class of pricks themselves. BoB got fragged; CVA got slapped like a female dog; even the Goons with their sovereign super spy ninja intelligence prince got their short hairs handed to them; Atlas got whipped like a dog and handed over some of their best assets like a little girl on the playground. To name just a few. These are the famed alliances we have to be mindful of because their purpose is so superior?
Hah!
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Talk about egos/ignorance...*
Indeed.
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Cobalt Sixty
Caldari The Price of Darkness
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Posted - 2010.09.13 08:52:00 -
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Originally by: ForU2nV Is this what eve has become?
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Ynot Eyob
Minmatar Nisroc Angels The Obsidian Front
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Posted - 2010.09.13 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: ForU2nV
I really am annoyed and dismayed by this video. DonĈt get me wrong the video was great and well done.
^^ In my eyes FW got ruiend by the panoia about spies within fleets, not the fact that there could be spies, but the FCs misstrust to everyone, spending more resources on spies than the actually battles.
Though spies within corps and alliance are commen and used alot, i deffently dont think adviticing about is gona help. The new video shows what we as CEOs have to deal with every day, and encourage more to get into that business aint gona help. We end up spending more time and more resources on spies and scammers within corporations and alliances than we already do.
The Video might encourage people to try infiltrate some of the bigger alliances as they sit there as superpower making it hard for younger alliances to grow. But i honestly think its the small alliances who in 6 months or mabe a year will see and fell the down side of a video like this.
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AstarothPrime
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Posted - 2010.09.13 11:46:00 -
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In a game which allows aliances to get so strong they can close down half of the space available - yes - this trailer is great.
There is no way to bring down that corp without some spywork and inner help
That is what eve is all about. If you dont like it go play runescape and youll be safe from scams of all sorts...
I.
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AstarothPrime
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Posted - 2010.09.13 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Ynot Eyob
The Video might encourage people to try infiltrate some of the bigger alliances as they sit there as superpower making it hard for younger alliances to grow.
Exactly
Originally by: Ynot Eyob
But i honestly think its the small alliances who in 6 months or mabe a year will see and fell the down side of a video like this.
Yes, in # but not in ISK volume and impact. Smaller alliances are more or less privately funded, mods and caps are privately owned, have no or really dont depend on supercaps, etc... Corp funds are there to replace sporadic mischief with expencive hulls and not actually to fund sov and 50 titan fleet...
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SemiCharmed
Clans of the Sanctums
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Posted - 2010.09.13 12:02:00 -
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I personally think is ok. If this happens to you its your own downfall for giving a member director rights within a month of joining. There are security measures in place for all a corps belongings to be safe against this corp theft.
Besides, the Vid was AWESOME!!!
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