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Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.04 16:25:00 -
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So, been playing for 3-4 years, I got my Maurader (Kronos) to lvl 4. Btw, my large hybird guns are only LVL 4.
Equiped with 4 electron with anti matter, range 2400.
This is what disturbes me.
CCP claims hybird have the worst of all ranges but, the best damage. OK!
Then why does my Hyperion with 425 type railguns hit in range with 1500 or more damage, while my LVL 4 Maurader, that has 100% damage with hybird with lvl 4 type guns, in range can best only 250 t0 350 , this is with btyw, a fleeting web and target painter 2 at lvl 5! With signature at 5 as well????
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Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.04 16:29:00 -
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Furthermore, I have a tracking CPU tech 2, aiding the already Tracking abiltiy of the Maurader! As well I should further clairfiy that this is only when hitting PVE battleships in range of my Hyperions 425 vs my Kronos hybirds electron! WTF man!
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Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.04 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: SkinSin Unfortunately hybrids have horrible tracking, so when you do get close up you effectively can't hit anything...
Umm Kronos a Tracking BS! Equiped with a tech 2 tracking CPU and and Tech 2 Target painter with sig raduis at lvl 5???
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Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.04 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Axemaster Um, not to troll, but have you seriously been playing for 4 years? I find that really hard to believe. And as others said, it's the tracking.
ok big mouth, Then if tracking is such a problem at range with lvl 4 Kronos, tech 2 TP, webber and tracking PC, at range against a BS, then why even have hybirds?????? Like I said my Hyperions 425 tech 1 do 1500 to 2000, the best numbers I get out of my Blasters are 250 Hmmmmm? Nice suggestions NOT!
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Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.04 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Judas Scammer
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Equiped with 4 electron with anti matter, range 2400.
Is it tracking?
NO, its not tracking when a PVE BS is webbed, and in range of my 4 electron blasters, with a tech 2 TP and tech 2 tracking CPU, Im getting 250 max damage WTF!, While my Hyperion gets 1500 to 2000 damage at range with 425s????
Like Ive been saying all along, CCP says Blasters give the most damage but lack distance. Fine but, Im at range and with a kronos HELLo!!!!!!!!!!! What Im lying!!!
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Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.04 17:26:00 -
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No ones reading, my posts, yup I bought the account from ebay and am a lair! Thanks for the help!
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Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.04 18:11:00 -
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Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.04 19:17:00 -
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Edited by: Zivoril on 04/09/2010 19:19:48 Edited by: Zivoril on 04/09/2010 19:19:07 Edited by: Zivoril on 04/09/2010 19:18:44 I dont have tech 2 guns trained but, my point is when I have a PVE BS in range of my Electrons with the webber and TP on Im getting 250 Damage, WTF! Mauraders say they 100% damaage and webber skills, then why in EVEs name does my Hyperion, with 425s at range get 1500 to 2000 damage same skill at 4???????????????????????
Btw, eve though I havent tech 2 hybird skills my set isnt that bad! So please educate me! Im PVEing not PVP!
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Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.04 19:29:00 -
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Yup 3-4 years, and if you will notice Im an Ammar, my ship list there is mind blowing, I switched to Galente a while ago.
My main point is, WTF is a Hyperion out doing a Kronos in damage (period)!
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Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.04 19:32:00 -
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Cap Merkin and surrendermonkey thanks for the responses!
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Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.04 19:35:00 -
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Since I have Target painter and sig radius to lvl 5 I thought that with a Kronos, tracking abiltiy, and webbers I could hit frigates at close range ( with large blasters at range 2400). I am wrong????????????????
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Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.04 19:39:00 -
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Edited by: Zivoril on 04/09/2010 19:40:09 Pure crap Monkey than why the 500 million CCPs laughing its butt off role in the Mauraders is a joke! I dont think you get my fit or my point!
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Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.04 19:42:00 -
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See thats my MAIN POINT, ive used 2 webs, and have success vs smaller ships evenb frigs.
Heres the problem I get a PVE BS in the same range and I tickle it! It should be dead in 3-4 shots after all I paid 500 mil for this ship right!@
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Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.04 19:49:00 -
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Edited by: Zivoril on 04/09/2010 19:50:41 Edited by: Zivoril on 04/09/2010 19:49:39 LVL 4 Maurader, vs lvl 5 Hyperion, a 400 million isk difference.
lvl 4 hybrids and rail guns!
MY Hyper gets 1500-2000 damage at range
My Kronos get 250 MAX with 2 Webbers, a TP Tech, 2 A tracking CPU tech 2, 4 electron tech 1 at range With anit matter.
Its a joke. Im simply stateing that Im not getting what I pay for!
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Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.04 19:55:00 -
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The Maurader says better tracking , better webbing, 100% more damage equaling that of a reg BS at 8 guns ok, then why when a PVE BS comes into range of 4 electron tech blasters they do nothing but tickle!
So I hopp in my MY Hyperion with 425s, go to same mission at correct range and get a kill within 5- 7 volleys at range????????
Wait I thought Mauraders had better this and that its bullchitZ!
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Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.04 20:00:00 -
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Tippa, I do not get it!!!!!!!!!!!! If my Kronos is in range with a PVE BS at 2700 with 4 electron blasters, and hits at 250 damage while Im webbing it. Then WHY does my Hyperion at range say 23 with same antimatter , hits with 1500- 2000 damage????
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Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.04 20:06:00 -
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Im happy to hear superior ideas, and or thoughts but, when you all collectively speak you sound as if Blasters for BS at even THERE DEAD ON RANGE suxs why???
If CCP told my the 4 electron blasters with anitmatter at 2400 does X amount of damage then dammit it should I keep hearing you excuse that only use Rail guns etc.
Btw I've been switching back and forth between my hyperion and Maurader and seen nothing but lies about up close range blasters Vs PVE BS!
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Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.04 20:08:00 -
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO same damn mission!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.04 22:40:00 -
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Edited by: Zivoril on 04/09/2010 22:41:26 I switched to anode neatron, yes there is a differnce but, not as much as should be!!!!!!!! Usieng Blasters, at close and in range regardless of gun should do massive damage!
My point holds some water. This is an alt Btw an up close alt, not a sniper!
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Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.04 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: Footoo Rama
Originally by: Zivoril Edited by: Zivoril on 04/09/2010 22:41:26 I switched to anode neatron, yes there is a differnce but, not as much as should be!!!!!!!! Usieng Blasters, at close and in range regardless of gun should do massive damage!
My point holds some water. This is an alt Btw an up close alt, not a sniper!
Your build is fail, and you refuse to explain where you are getting your dmg numbers... congrats you now have a large bounty on you.
Bring it oh please come and find me put a bounty so huge every noob pilot with a frigate will shot me on sight!
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Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.05 01:03:00 -
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Edited by: Zivoril on 05/09/2010 01:03:53 HOLY FING CRAP YES CAPS ARE WARRENTED! Like I said, early on " I am AMMAR and have recenlty trained to Galentee.
Did the dipchits that saw my Avater not get it!!!!
Anyway, thank to those who backed me, F... those who didnt!
Again, to those so stoopid to get it. I've been flying Ammar ships for 3-4 years just started to Galentee.\
Nobody reads anymore its all a chit storm.
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Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.05 01:17:00 -
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Edited by: Zivoril on 05/09/2010 01:18:17 To put MY THREAD to bed/rest! My lvl 4 Muarader with tech 1 lvl hybirds suxed! I did switch to 425 compresed coils and Im suprised!
Equiped with 2 fleeting webbers
a target painter 2 with sig radius at lvl 5
and a tech 2 cpu enhancer the guns claim 33 km optial range yet, anything within 10mm is destroyed.
Havnet seen INTYs yet in my LVL 4 missions, My goblonss should get em, with webs on.! Weird how I destroy frigs and when watcheing the notations at the top screen it still says my guns are missing them!
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Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.05 01:20:00 -
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Edited by: Zivoril on 05/09/2010 01:21:00
Originally by: Daergaar ^
So you're flying a ship without the proper skills to fly it? If you just started on Gallente, do you really think a Marauder is the first thing to get into?
Wrong, lvl 4 Maureder with lvl4 hybrids what so wrong! I could have chosen the PALADIN!
I have a mix of Ammar and Galentee!
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Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.05 01:25:00 -
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Originally by: Zilberfrid OK, you were Amarr, and decided to change.
Why the hell to Gallente??!?
We can offer you 9% damage increase at the cost of 80% range! But, that is not all, we can offer active armour tanking at the cost of resists (helping buffer, active and RR fits)
With these short ranges, we add a bonus of extremely slow ships to boot.
Are you happy with your choice yet?
Absolutely, My Arstate is DOMINANT OVER MY ABSOLUTION! So I continued, yes yes and yes, I have verygood balance!
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Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.05 02:35:00 -
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Edited by: Zivoril on 05/09/2010 02:37:57 Edited by: Zivoril on 05/09/2010 02:37:28 Yes, Wardeneo- you are now my slave! Hows it feel!
Btw, your younger version of avatar looks cool, if your a young punk. My older version avatar excels and beats your avatar because, its the smooth wiser you just got check mated look!
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Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.05 02:53:00 -
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Edited by: Zivoril on 05/09/2010 02:53:19 Edited by: Zivoril on 05/09/2010 02:52:51 I was looking for a short range frigate killer PVE! My alt is long range, EVERYONE JUST SHUT IT -i GOT MY kRONOS dialed in now!!!!!!!!!!! Its a frigate killer like I wanted!
END THread!
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Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.06 01:49:00 -
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Edited by: Zivoril on 06/09/2010 01:52:16 Yes, yesssss, you have fallen into my trap and are all my SLAVES, now bow- and continue into the thought control I have over you all!
heck why not at this point even those who have made even the best points FAIL! I had a point that was sucked into the UNDERTOE of the wave of "IM THE MOST INTELLECTUAL PILOT IN EVE THIS IS WHAT I SAY"!! Happens every time.
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Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.06 13:34:00 -
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Edited by: Zivoril on 06/09/2010 13:35:16 While trying many different set ups Ive decided much like the pilot above me to use 425s, and at range they do POP frigs in one shot. Haveing fun useing my Kronos and other alt in lvl 4 missions etc.
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Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.06 14:23:00 -
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Edited by: Zivoril on 06/09/2010 14:24:14 No thanks I have trained all races but, dont think Ill ever train for Minmitar. Basically, as any pilots knows it fun switching things up on a vareity of ships. IE putting lasers on a non laser ship, ofcourse by doing so you dont get that particular ships advantage with said weapons, I was originally going for a close ranbge frigs killer, in my Kronos (we all know how natsy it is getting caught scramed and dead). Experimenting with Blasters, then neutorns was a difference but, ofcourse trail and error is always an individaul taste. My alts i use when doing lvl 4 are always 1) to get the frigs out of the way ASAP, then my 2)does the big work. Intially I noticed that the Blasters with webs and a Target painter were not doing very well even more shocked at being in range against PVE Battleships and seeing little damage, the Neutrons worked better, but not enough to keep them, My Hyperion with 425s does a better job, but not as good as my Kronos with 425s, so there I have it.
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Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.06 14:56:00 -
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I hear ya, I like my Kronos and its fits the role I need it for just fine. As I said, I was experimenting!
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Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.06 15:10:00 -
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Edited by: Zivoril on 06/09/2010 15:14:52 Edited by: Zivoril on 06/09/2010 15:13:20 Edited by: Zivoril on 06/09/2010 15:12:19 Edited by: Zivoril on 06/09/2010 15:11:17 Heres my current Kronos fit, not dont have T2 hybirds yet, but even though still a great PVE ship!
rigs 2 Large capacitor control circuit 1 have T2 Hammers and Gobs as well highs 4x 425 compressed coil gun anti matter ammo 2x Large YF-12A for the frigs when they get in range Salvager 1 meds 1x cap rechager 2 2x Fleeting webber 1x Target painter 2 lows 2x armor thermic harder,2x armor kinetic,1large armor reparier,tracking enhancer 2,magnetic field stab2,
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