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Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.04 19:39:00 -
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Edited by: Zivoril on 04/09/2010 19:40:09 Pure crap Monkey than why the 500 million CCPs laughing its butt off role in the Mauraders is a joke! I dont think you get my fit or my point!
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1600 RT
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Posted - 2010.09.04 19:40:00 -
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Edited by: 1600 RT on 04/09/2010 19:40:42
Originally by: Zivoril Edited by: Zivoril on 04/09/2010 19:37:32 Edited by: Zivoril on 04/09/2010 19:37:08 Since I have Target painter and sig radius to lvl 5 I thought that with a Kronos, tracking abiltiy, and webbers I could hit frigates at close range ( with large blasters at range 2400). I am wrong????????????????
I'm doing welll against smaller ships but, when I get BS in range it sucks for damage WTF!
1 there is a skill called sig radius in EVE? 2 yes you can hit frigate if you know to keep transversal at decent levels 3 for blasters a 2nd web will help you more than a target painter
Originally by: Zivoril Pure crap Monkey than why the 500 million CCPs laughing its butt off role in the Mauraders is a joke!
or you just plain sux at eve
i vote the 2nd
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Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.04 19:42:00 -
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See thats my MAIN POINT, ive used 2 webs, and have success vs smaller ships evenb frigs.
Heres the problem I get a PVE BS in the same range and I tickle it! It should be dead in 3-4 shots after all I paid 500 mil for this ship right!@
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.09.04 19:44:00 -
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àfor the record, at 2400m, a standard mission rat hit with a 90% web will still require your large guns to have a tracking speed of ~0.13 rad/s in order to provide 1:1 tracking ù i.e. a 50% hit chance. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
1600 RT
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Posted - 2010.09.04 19:45:00 -
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Originally by: Zivoril See thats my MAIN POINT, ive used 2 webs, and have success vs smaller ships evenb frigs.
Heres the problem I get a PVE BS in the same range and I tickle it! It should be dead in 3-4 shots after all I paid 500 mil for this ship right!@
- buy a titan - go mission in 0.0 - oneshot every npc with the doomsday it have no tracking problems
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.09.04 19:45:00 -
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Originally by: Zivoril Edited by: Zivoril on 04/09/2010 19:37:32 Edited by: Zivoril on 04/09/2010 19:37:08 Since I have Target painter and sig radius to lvl 5 I thought that with a Kronos, tracking abiltiy, and webbers I could hit frigates at close range ( with large blasters at range 2400). I am wrong????????????????
I'm doing welll against smaller ships but, when I get BS in range it sucks for damage WTF!
Go back to Amarr.
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SurrenderMonkey
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Posted - 2010.09.04 19:47:00 -
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Edited by: SurrenderMonkey on 04/09/2010 19:48:33
Originally by: Zivoril Edited by: Zivoril on 04/09/2010 19:40:09 Pure crap Monkey than why the 500 million CCPs laughing its butt off role in the Mauraders is a joke! I dont think you get my fit or my point!
It has better resists (so it fits a better active tank), it has a tracking bonus that the Hyperion doesn't have, it has a webber bonus that the hyperion doesn't have, it can fit a full rack of guns and still have room for tractors, salvagers, or whatever else you want to put in those high slots, it gets a tractor range bonus, it moves a mid slow to a low slot (allowing for more tank and/or gank), it's faster, it has a bigger cargohold, it can lock more targets at a time, it has a longer targeting range. Oh, and, thanks to the fact that it only fits 4 guns, it's easier to keep cap stable.
Your fit is ****, your skills are ****, your understanding of game mechanics is ****. Quit whining and put railguns on the Kronos, like you're supposed to. --------------- Faction-Militia:Player-Alliance::Newbie-corp:Player-corp |
Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.04 19:49:00 -
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Edited by: Zivoril on 04/09/2010 19:50:41 Edited by: Zivoril on 04/09/2010 19:49:39 LVL 4 Maurader, vs lvl 5 Hyperion, a 400 million isk difference.
lvl 4 hybrids and rail guns!
MY Hyper gets 1500-2000 damage at range
My Kronos get 250 MAX with 2 Webbers, a TP Tech, 2 A tracking CPU tech 2, 4 electron tech 1 at range With anit matter.
Its a joke. Im simply stateing that Im not getting what I pay for!
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SurrenderMonkey
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Posted - 2010.09.04 19:53:00 -
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Sometimes, when I see posters like you, I get this impulse to take them under my wing and educate them.
Almost always, however, they keep posting, and then I realize that their problem isn't merely ignorance, but stupidity, and there's nothing I can do to fix that. --------------- Faction-Militia:Player-Alliance::Newbie-corp:Player-corp |
Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.04 19:55:00 -
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The Maurader says better tracking , better webbing, 100% more damage equaling that of a reg BS at 8 guns ok, then why when a PVE BS comes into range of 4 electron tech blasters they do nothing but tickle!
So I hopp in my MY Hyperion with 425s, go to same mission at correct range and get a kill within 5- 7 volleys at range????????
Wait I thought Mauraders had better this and that its bullchitZ!
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.09.04 19:57:00 -
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You're still confusing volley and DPS. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.09.04 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: SurrenderMonkey Sometimes, when I see posters like you, I get this impulse to take them under my wing and educate them.
Almost always, however, they keep posting, and then I realize that their problem isn't merely ignorance, but stupidity, and there's nothing I can do to fix that.
Oh he is simply trolling you to get you to keep explaining yourself so he can keep fapping. No matter what you say he will simply ignore it and repeat the same thing he previously said hoping that you will arse yourself to explain all over again. And there is something you can do to fix that. Don't feed him and he will go away as the thread eventually drops off the first page.
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: Ryhss There is no paranoia in Eve, everyone is out to get you....
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SurrenderMonkey
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Posted - 2010.09.04 19:58:00 -
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Originally by: Zivoril The Maurader says better tracking , better webbing, 100% more damage equaling that of a reg BS at 8 guns ok, then why when a PVE BS comes into range of 4 electron tech blasters they do nothing but tickle!
Did you miss the part where I explained that the volley damage on 425s is substantially higher than ah **** it.
You're either a troll, or hopeless. --------------- Faction-Militia:Player-Alliance::Newbie-corp:Player-corp |
FISHANDCHIPS
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Posted - 2010.09.04 19:58:00 -
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Its because your using blasters you idiot if you bothered to read the specs or have a clue you would know why they suck for pve
PS.comparing blasters to rails that's goto be the best thing ive read all day
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Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.04 20:00:00 -
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Tippa, I do not get it!!!!!!!!!!!! If my Kronos is in range with a PVE BS at 2700 with 4 electron blasters, and hits at 250 damage while Im webbing it. Then WHY does my Hyperion at range say 23 with same antimatter , hits with 1500- 2000 damage????
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Kail Storm
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.09.04 20:04:00 -
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Edited by: Kail Storm on 04/09/2010 20:05:05 Ok hes a confirmed troll...
Volley DMG Vs DPS has been stated now what? 8 times.
DMG Per Second and Single shot/ Volley is differant Cave Troll
And even though I know this I still respond...I am Drunk or ******ed. -------------------------------------------------- "If Eve Was P*rn, It would be a Snuff film, First you get screwed then you get killed" -Me
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Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.04 20:06:00 -
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Im happy to hear superior ideas, and or thoughts but, when you all collectively speak you sound as if Blasters for BS at even THERE DEAD ON RANGE suxs why???
If CCP told my the 4 electron blasters with anitmatter at 2400 does X amount of damage then dammit it should I keep hearing you excuse that only use Rail guns etc.
Btw I've been switching back and forth between my hyperion and Maurader and seen nothing but lies about up close range blasters Vs PVE BS!
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.09.04 20:07:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 04/09/2010 20:07:26
Originally by: Zivoril Tippa, I do not get it!!!!!!!!!!!! If my Kronos is in range with a PVE BS at 2700 with 4 electron blasters, and hits at 250 damage while Im webbing it. Then WHY does my Hyperion at range say 23 with same antimatter , hits with 1500- 2000 damage????
Because your Kronos is hitting somehting with 80% resists; the Hype is not. Because the Kronos is actually out of range; the Hype is not. Because the Kronos has low volley/high RoF; the Hype does not. Because you've fit the two differently. àetc etc etc. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.04 20:08:00 -
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO same damn mission!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.09.04 20:10:00 -
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Oh well why not..
Have you tried putting electron blasters on your hype and seeing what the damage is?
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: Ryhss There is no paranoia in Eve, everyone is out to get you....
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Riho
Gallente Magnificent Beavers The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2010.09.04 20:28:00 -
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seriously...
you fit rails on hype... they have LOW rate of fire and HIGH dmg. you fit blasters on kronos... they have high rate of fire and lower dmg.
now whta AMMO do you use on ur hyp and on ur kronos
if u, for example, use antimatter ammo on your hype and IRON on kronos... that really tells me why you get such crap dmg. allso if you played 4 years youd know theres things like best named guns and use them instead of bare t1... they do ALOT more dmg.
now go fit 8 blasters on your hype and compare dmg.
if you cant do this and answer the questions ppl ask... you just need to l2p and stop ebaying accs. ---------------------------------- Fighting for something
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Thorian Baalnorn
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Posted - 2010.09.04 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: Zivoril Edited by: Zivoril on 04/09/2010 19:50:41 Edited by: Zivoril on 04/09/2010 19:49:39 LVL 4 Maurader, vs lvl 5 Hyperion, a 400 million isk difference.
lvl 4 hybrids and rail guns!
MY Hyper gets 1500-2000 damage at range
My Kronos get 250 MAX with 2 Webbers, a TP Tech, 2 A tracking CPU tech 2, 4 electron tech 1 at range With anit matter.
Its a joke. Im simply stateing that Im not getting what I pay for!
you not comparing equal guns for 1. If you use the same guns on both ships Raw DPS will be the same. The kronos will have better effective DPS because it gets a tracking bonus. You will also get a bit better tank on a kronos.
Thats not worth the price tag on a kronos to me. A kronos is a crap marauder and hybrids are crap weapons. You would of probably been better off using a paladin and running amarr based missions.
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Footoo Rama
Gallente Cast-a-Ways.
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Posted - 2010.09.04 22:02:00 -
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Edited by: Footoo Rama on 04/09/2010 22:02:28 Great troll!!!
He is refusing to see the difference between volley and dps...
1000 dps = 4 guns doing 1000 dps every 4 seconds log reads 4000 points of dmg 1000 dps = 4 guns doing 250 dps every second log reads 1000 points of dmg
Hint they do the same damage over time... One is a blaster the other is a rail...
2nd blaster fitting a kronos is major fail... esp with no speed mod. 3rd Mixing buffer with active tank in PvE = fail
If you do not understand what this all means after 4 years then eve may be too complicated for you and perhaps you should try wow. ------- "Because the Dominix is the Chuck Norris of Eve!" |
Von Kapiche
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.04 22:16:00 -
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Screw wow, should maybe make sure he doesn't have his knife and fork confused at dinnertime. I hear stabbing your gums with a knife is almost as painful as this thread.
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Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.04 22:40:00 -
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Edited by: Zivoril on 04/09/2010 22:41:26 I switched to anode neatron, yes there is a differnce but, not as much as should be!!!!!!!! Usieng Blasters, at close and in range regardless of gun should do massive damage!
My point holds some water. This is an alt Btw an up close alt, not a sniper!
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Footoo Rama
Gallente Cast-a-Ways.
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Posted - 2010.09.04 22:52:00 -
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Originally by: Zivoril Edited by: Zivoril on 04/09/2010 22:41:26 I switched to anode neatron, yes there is a differnce but, not as much as should be!!!!!!!! Usieng Blasters, at close and in range regardless of gun should do massive damage!
My point holds some water. This is an alt Btw an up close alt, not a sniper!
Your build is fail, and you refuse to explain where you are getting your dmg numbers... congrats you now have a large bounty on you. ------- "Because the Dominix is the Chuck Norris of Eve!" |
Zivoril
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Posted - 2010.09.04 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: Footoo Rama
Originally by: Zivoril Edited by: Zivoril on 04/09/2010 22:41:26 I switched to anode neatron, yes there is a differnce but, not as much as should be!!!!!!!! Usieng Blasters, at close and in range regardless of gun should do massive damage!
My point holds some water. This is an alt Btw an up close alt, not a sniper!
Your build is fail, and you refuse to explain where you are getting your dmg numbers... congrats you now have a large bounty on you.
Bring it oh please come and find me put a bounty so huge every noob pilot with a frigate will shot me on sight!
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2010.09.04 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Zivoril
Bring it oh please come and find me put a bounty so huge every noob pilot with a frigate will shoot me on sight!
By your level of incompetence the noob frigate might destroy your marauder in a lengthy and humiliating process
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Drago Katsov
Caldari 0ne Percent.
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Posted - 2010.09.04 23:11:00 -
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Edited by: Drago Katsov on 04/09/2010 23:13:16 So you claim you have been playing for 4 years. Judging by your lack of understanding you are ither full of BS or have been mining your entire 4 youre of playing EvE.
I will try talking to you like you are a noob. Every thing CCP sais isnt always true. Blasters have the worst range and tracking but blasters have high damage per second. Rails have a large range, have low damage per second but have a high volley. Even with perfect skills large neutron blasters have an optimal of 3,600km with Antimater. After optimal range the damage reduces the more you enter fall off.
The optimal Kronos fit is to use Rails. Not blasters. Kill the BS/Cruisers as they approatch and kill frigs with drones(assuming you have the skills for drones). I would try EFT as I do not use the Kronos and never thought of using one because the Kronos is the worst Marauder and Hybrid Turrets are the worst turret in game.
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Daergaar
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.09.04 23:45:00 -
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Originally by: Bomberlocks I also find it very hard to believe you've been playing for 4 years and don't have T2 hybrid skills yet. But anyway, you really need an AB on your Kronos if you want to use it in PvE, since you'll need to close distance to your targets.
You're also confusing Alpha, or volley shot, with DPS. The dps of the blasters should be much higher than that of the rails.
It's possible to have played that long and not have T2 hybrid skills yet.
I've been playing over two years, and haven't even trained T1 medium hybrids. My only gunnery skills are Weapon Upgrades and Advanced Weapon Upgrades. Everything missiles is at 5 though.
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