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Stick Cult
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Posted - 2010.09.05 02:58:00 -
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Originally by: NSSQUAD I just have to say Spy game is fine and dandy, but if your using it to push the next expansion wtf do I have to look forward to? Real content is alays nice.
Originally by: Corska Zrai "Welcome to the next expansion! Look forward to such features as: Stealing from an alliance!"
Haven't people been doing that for years, or has no one actually thought to do this to an alliance yet?
Remember the Butterfly Effect trailer? This is like that. Advertising nothing new in Eve, but still awesome. We'll get an expansion trailer later, once they've thoroughly hyped it...
Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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Corska Zrai
Minmatar Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2010.09.05 03:04:00 -
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Edited by: Corska Zrai on 05/09/2010 03:05:15 I guess I can see a positive effect on getting new players. "Look at our game where your actions can actually matter!" That would explain the sweepstakes attached to the trailer. Nothing gets people to look at your website better than giving away free stuff.
I am a bit worried about it just attracting more trolls, griefers, and corp-thieves.
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Stick Cult
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Posted - 2010.09.05 03:05:00 -
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Originally by: Corska Zrai I guess I can see a positive effect on getting new players. "Look at our game where your actions can actually matter!" That would explain the sweepstakes attached to the trailer. Nothing gets people to look at your website better than giving away free stuff.
FREE STUFF?!?!?! SIGN ME UP!!!
/hyper
Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.09.05 03:09:00 -
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Originally by: velinqangi yeah i would agree, it does seem a little easy for years of work and planning to be stolen with a couple mouse clicks.The 10-20% of corp assets limit or something similar sounds like a reasonable adjustment.
my 2 isk
Infiltrating and destroying a corp/alliance is not an easy or fast job. It takes work and a mental/moral toughness that many simply don't have.
-Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter Blog
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Stick Cult
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Posted - 2010.09.05 03:14:00 -
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Edited by: Stick Cult on 05/09/2010 03:15:59
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: velinqangi yeah i would agree, it does seem a little easy for years of work and planning to be stolen with a couple mouse clicks.The 10-20% of corp assets limit or something similar sounds like a reasonable adjustment.
my 2 isk
Infiltrating and destroying a corp/alliance is not an easy or fast job. It takes work and a mental/moral toughness that many simply don't have.
To add onto this... First, I'm gonna steal that 2 isk. Second, if a person stole billions upon billions from a corp's hangars and wallets, one of two things just happened:
1) The thief spent a LONG time, years wouldn't be surprising, getting to that level in a corp, in which case he deserves it just as much as the corp he took it from... 2) The corp gives out roles willy nilly and stores things with no security, in which case the corp deserved to have it taken. Besides, if the thief hadn't, some director wouldn't gotten ****ed off and taken it, anyway. I'd rather have the coolstorybro of having it stolen, than "uhhh some butthurt director took it..."
edit: Originally by: Gimilar i dont think its mental strength as much as just putting up with the bull **** for years and taking it up the bum till you get your chance
You have no idea how much mental strength that is...
Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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Gimilar
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Posted - 2010.09.05 03:15:00 -
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i dont think its mental strength as much as just putting up with the bull **** for years and taking it up the bum till you get your chance
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Roosterton
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Posted - 2010.09.05 03:51:00 -
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Edited by: Roosterton on 05/09/2010 03:51:27
Quote: If the united states puts a spy in to north korea north korea doesnt lose its sov unless an army physically goes and takes it.
No, but what if that spy got itself into a leadership position, became trusted, and then pulled off a military coup?
Or maybe he used his trust to steal hundreds of billions?
Or what if he assassinated the leadership and threw the country into anarchy?
You don't seem to understand that social interaction skills and cunning are just as valid ways of playing the game as going against your oppenent face to face and blowing up their ship. There's a reason this is a multiplayer game.
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Cobalt Sixty
Caldari The Price of Darkness
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Posted - 2010.09.05 04:23:00 -
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Edited by: Cobalt Sixty on 05/09/2010 04:25:11
Dear OP,
Please be aware that the developer of the game whose promotional video you're whining about produced and release their own music video telling you, a customer, to HTFU.
That being said, I think mentioning Al Qaida in a complaint about intended gameplay is akin to triggering Godwin's law.
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CCP Applebabe
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Posted - 2010.09.05 04:47:00 -
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Off-topic posts have been removed.
Applebabe Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us |
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Jovialmadness
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Posted - 2010.09.05 04:55:00 -
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im too damn lazy to find this "new trailer" mind actually linking instead of blabbing off with your opinion of it?
thanks |
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.09.05 05:01:00 -
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Originally by: Jovialmadness im too damn lazy to find this "new trailer" mind actually linking instead of blabbing off with your opinion of it?
thanks
Whoa! Thats pretty damn lazy so tell us: How do you manage to feed yourself on a regular basis?
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: Ryhss There is no paranoia in Eve, everyone is out to get you....
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Zulf BesGUowy
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Posted - 2010.09.05 05:33:00 -
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Edited by: Zulf BesGUowy on 05/09/2010 05:35:20 Here nothing about one button win, to destroy ally-corp you have to get trust, new trailer shows us here is no limits, you can play own style, good or bad guy, miner, carebear, scamer, pirate, thief, corporation or ally (destroyer), you can kill miners or oficer fited mission runers in kamikaze style, withaut no consequence.
EvE world is like our real world, is brutal but beautiful in itself, that why im still here, almost 4 years :>
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Dogius Meatius
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Posted - 2010.09.05 06:23:00 -
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Edited by: Dogius Meatius on 05/09/2010 06:25:42 Edited by: Dogius Meatius on 05/09/2010 06:24:54 Short version:
Guy loses Merlin to some gang Guy joins baddies alliance. Guy makes his way into position of power. Guy steals stuff. Alliance falls apart and gets pwned by others Guy buys new Merlin.
So the moral of the story is; don't **** off guys who really like Merlins. They will totally take over and destroy your Alliance. Then buy another Merlin.
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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2010.09.05 06:53:00 -
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After a series of trailers promising fake features to Wowtards, this one was refreshing.
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onechallenger
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Posted - 2010.09.05 08:06:00 -
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I just want to see more security for bigger alliances and more directors being able to prevent 1 rogue director being paid off or being disgruntled to disband an alliance.
The person that said suggeseted authorisation from 3 senior members to take certain amount from the wallet etc.
I know their are controls to set directors but their are no controls or measures in place if they go rogue,
Now some people have read and replied properly others unfortunatly have trolled. I have posted here as it is a problem.
If your not in an ally of over 700peps you probably wont understand. Although some will.
Ty for your replies so far.
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Psiri
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Posted - 2010.09.05 09:18:00 -
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Edited by: Psiri on 05/09/2010 09:19:23 To be honest I feel that the trailer is kinda stupid. A new player running around in a Merlin won't be pulling this **** off in years, even if he's somehow able to. If he does, ransacking an entire alliance because they blew up your T1 frig has to be the most ******ed reason ever.
Also, most corp and alliance thefts I've heard of haven't been planned but rather been done by a disgruntled member who suddenly decided to turn on them.
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Sealiah
Minmatar Coffee Lovers Brewing Club Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2010.09.05 09:54:00 -
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He didn't literally disband the alliance, he just robbed one corporation... But thanks to that somehow the rest though that it's all going wrong and left the alliance leaving all their sov.
I guess that's a valid tactic.
And as far as hydra and bob - those alliances were taken over, true. But that's the risk you take when you give roles. Allow people only limited access, don't people have too much power. Unless you trust them - then everything is ok.
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Forumena Altair
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Posted - 2010.09.05 10:21:00 -
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Originally by: Jovialmadness im too damn lazy to find this "new trailer" mind actually linking instead of blabbing off with your opinion of it?
thanks
For the lazy.
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JC Anderson
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2010.09.05 10:29:00 -
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Originally by: Dogius Meatius Edited by: Dogius Meatius on 05/09/2010 06:25:42 Edited by: Dogius Meatius on 05/09/2010 06:24:54 Short version:
Guy loses Merlin to some gang Guy joins baddies alliance. Guy makes his way into position of power. Guy steals stuff. Alliance falls apart and gets pwned by others Guy buys new Merlin.
So the moral of the story is; don't **** off guys who really like Merlins. They will totally take over and destroy your Alliance. Then buy another Merlin.
+1
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CyberGh0st
Minmatar Ara Veritas
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Posted - 2010.09.05 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: Sealiah He didn't literally disband the alliance, he just robbed one corporation... But thanks to that somehow the rest though that it's all going wrong and left the alliance leaving all their sov.
I guess that's a valid tactic.
And as far as hydra and bob - those alliances were taken over, true. But that's the risk you take when you give roles. Allow people only limited access, don't people have too much power. Unless you trust them - then everything is ok.
It should not be possible for 1 rogue director to disband an alliance, that is just plain dumb.
Sure the trailer does not show this, but the +P has a point.
http://www.mmodata.net Favorite MMO's : DAoC Pre-TOA-NF / SWG Pre-CU-NGE |
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CyberGh0st
Minmatar Ara Veritas
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Posted - 2010.09.05 10:53:00 -
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Originally by: Sealiah
And as far as hydra and bob - those alliances were taken over, true. But that's the risk you take when you give roles. Allow people only limited access, don't people have too much power. Unless you trust them - then everything is ok.
That is just the problem, with current flawed mechanics it is not possible to limit the risk, you only need 1 rogue director in the executor corp and he can close down the entire alliance.
http://www.mmodata.net Favorite MMO's : DAoC Pre-TOA-NF / SWG Pre-CU-NGE |
Dan Grobag
Caldari Grobag's Family
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Posted - 2010.09.05 11:25:00 -
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Eve Online: Spy Vs Spy
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Chopper Rollins
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.05 11:26:00 -
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Yes, more safety and insulation from the actions of others. Wait wat. I met a pleasant explorer type who was made to do all the work in his corp by the financier who was a bit of a nincompoop. I was given director roles and access because it seemed the corp was folding. Explorer got kicked and shot at by his ex-friend, then asked me to get some of his stuff from corp hangars. Damn right i emptied the place. Joined the corp of a loot thief just to shoot him, whole operation took 4 hours. Unfortunately he wasn't moving all his stuff in an industrial when he undocked. "Oh wait i remember you..." K'BOOM
TL;DR Most relevant trailer content is most relevant.
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onechallenger
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Posted - 2010.09.05 11:36:00 -
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Ty cyber someone who see's what im highlighting, Im not whining but iam puting forth an issue which i think if sorted will improve a game i already love and which ive spent also 4yrs+ playing.
Im not whining as some trolls say but I see an important issue that should be delt with.
Im talking about stopping an already trusted member disbanding the whole alliance after an arguement,different viewpoint etc. This is because a corp in that alliance that hasnt had a problem still suffers when their sov drops even though they may of played no part in the problems of 2 people.
I fully understand the game and just because i havent wrote it in the first post doesnt mean i cant see past pvp in ships. SO those with hostile comments towards me you dont know me but ty.
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CyberGh0st
Minmatar Ara Veritas
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Posted - 2010.09.05 16:39:00 -
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Edited by: CyberGh0st on 05/09/2010 16:42:53
Originally by: Chopper Rollins Yes, more safety and insulation from the actions of others. Wait wat. I met a pleasant explorer type who was made to do all the work in his corp by the financier who was a bit of a nincompoop. I was given director roles and access because it seemed the corp was folding. Explorer got kicked and shot at by his ex-friend, then asked me to get some of his stuff from corp hangars. Damn right i emptied the place. Joined the corp of a loot thief just to shoot him, whole operation took 4 hours. Unfortunately he wasn't moving all his stuff in an industrial when he undocked. "Oh wait i remember you..." K'BOOM
TL;DR Most relevant trailer content is most relevant.
Sure the trailer is fine and everything that happened there is perfectly fine and possible ingame.
I just wanted to highlight some issues, which the OP did as well, that are indirectly related to the trailer.
On the other hand, 0.0 is too static currently, so perhaps that is the reason why CCP does not want to fix the issues yet and even more pressing matters like the lag issues need attention.
This thread is now about the lag.
http://www.mmodata.net Favorite MMO's : DAoC Pre-TOA-NF / SWG Pre-CU-NGE |
Aerilis
Gallente Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.09.05 19:44:00 -
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All this trailer shows is that Dramiels are OP. Nerf Dramiels.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.09.05 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: onechallenger Im talking about stopping an already trusted member disbanding the whole alliance after an arguement,different viewpoint etc.
Don't hand out Director to all and sundry? ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Sealiah
Minmatar Coffee Lovers Brewing Club Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2010.09.06 08:55:00 -
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Originally by: CyberGh0st
Originally by: Sealiah He didn't literally disband the alliance, he just robbed one corporation... But thanks to that somehow the rest though that it's all going wrong and left the alliance leaving all their sov.
I guess that's a valid tactic.
And as far as hydra and bob - those alliances were taken over, true. But that's the risk you take when you give roles. Allow people only limited access, don't people have too much power. Unless you trust them - then everything is ok.
It should not be possible for 1 rogue director to disband an alliance, that is just plain dumb.
Sure the trailer does not show this, but the +P has a point.
I agree it should not be possible, but the trailer just shows that he destroyed the alliance morale.
And I am a strong support of the idea that alliances should be more than just a piece of paper any person that can get into the room can tear up and burn so that nothing is left... It just makes game play strange. Like BOB, like hydra, like CVA when they got hacked by someone... All goes wrong just because you can do it instantly.
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Ratokus
Universal Army Damu'Khonde
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Posted - 2010.09.06 09:01:00 -
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What I'd like to see is a disgrutled CCP employee delete the EVE database and lock the developers out.
How'd you like them apples?
Rat
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gallchecker
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Posted - 2010.09.06 09:24:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: velinqangi yeah i would agree, it does seem a little easy for years of work and planning to be stolen with a couple mouse clicks.The 10-20% of corp assets limit or something similar sounds like a reasonable adjustment.
my 2 isk
Infiltrating and destroying a corp/alliance is not an easy or fast job. It takes work and a mental/moral toughness that many simply don't have.
-Liang
Oh right.. And there was me thinking it was extremely easy due to internet anonymity all this time..
So its actually hard work and requires moral toughness after all, must do, this guy said so :p
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