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Edge Horseman
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Posted - 2010.09.14 10:22:00 -
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Ok im not sure if this is the right section but, I accepted a contract with 80 million collateral, it had a 8 million reward and had to be moved 24 jumps (deep into 0.0)
Long story short, i got to the destination and couldnt dock it was denied, i clicked about to see why then checked in the box i was given to deliver, 100 veldspar!!!
Im down to my last million isk and tempted to just walk away 8 days into my 3 month sub.. this shouldnt have been allowed.. Im extremly upset by it
Is there anything i can do, make a complaint or anything?
The name of the scammer is Merciless Trader
If this in the wrong section Sorry
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2010.09.14 10:31:00 -
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Don't accept courier contracts into 0.0 space. The odds of not being allowed to dock there is very high. It's normal gameplay and CCP will do nothing about it.
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Mme Pinkerton
United Engineering Services
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Posted - 2010.09.14 10:32:00 -
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Edited by: Mme Pinkerton on 14/09/2010 10:34:26
Originally by: Edge Horseman Is there anything i can do
learn from the experience - read the stickies/wiki before trying new stuff and assume that all deals that look significantly better than everything comparable are scams unless you are extremely certain of the opposite.
Accept that you will spend the first few months in EVE reading a lot of guides and/or learning about game mechanics "the hard way".
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zooming
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Posted - 2010.09.14 10:55:00 -
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Edge, learn from this and don't walk away, I've been playing for years and still got caught by Bad Bobby!
I know 80Mil is a lot when starting, but give it a few months and you can recover that very quickly through trading, mining, or missions.
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Momus Maximus
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Posted - 2010.09.14 11:00:00 -
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Don't be discouraged. Basically, the rule of thumb for EVE is that you should always be skeptical, at least to some extent. Courier contracts that take you to 0.0 space are typically not good ones to pick up. If you're going to do courier contracts, make sure that the destination is an NPC station, so you know you'll be able to dock in it and complete the contract.
Hang in there. This game has a lot to offer if you stick with it.
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Londo Cebb
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Posted - 2010.09.14 11:34:00 -
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You want the crime & punishment sub forum.
C&P
But be warned, they will do their best to make you cry.
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Zombatar
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Posted - 2010.09.14 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Momus Maximus
Hang in there. This game has a lot to offer if you stick with it.
On that note, I'll give the OP 10 mil if he wont quit. 8 more people and hes collateral is covered. Anyone up to this challenge? Is there any altruism left in EvE?
Lets see if we have 8 people willing to do this, OP will you accept this challenge? Will you stay if we raise 80 mil?
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Old RedEyeS
Caldari InterGalactic Corp.
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Posted - 2010.09.14 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Zombatar
Originally by: Momus Maximus
Hang in there. This game has a lot to offer if you stick with it.
On that note, I'll give the OP 10 mil if he wont quit. 8 more people and hes collateral is covered. Anyone up to this challenge? Is there any altruism left in EvE?
Lets see if we have 8 people willing to do this, OP will you accept this challenge? Will you stay if we raise 80 mil?
I'll chip in 10m if you don't quit.
Live and learn. You'll hear this everywhere, but Eve really is a sandbox. You can do whatever you want, including ripping ppl off. The GM's only like to get involved if something is broken with the game or if something breaches the EULA, which is how it should be.
I've been subbing since 2004. Trust me, it's worth every penny.
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Londo Cebb
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Posted - 2010.09.14 11:51:00 -
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And a new scam is born!
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Mme Pinkerton
United Engineering Services
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Posted - 2010.09.14 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: Zombatar On that note, I'll give the OP 10 mil if he wont quit. 8 more people and hes collateral is covered. Anyone up to this challenge? Is there any altruism left in EvE?
Lets see if we have 8 people willing to do this, OP will you accept this challenge? Will you stay if we raise 80 mil?
Do you really want to reward people for being careless?
OP was taught a valuable lesson - if that lesson hurts that's all the better (because it will hopefully make him remember it for some time).
In EVE ignorance does not protect you from punishment and you have to suffer from the consequences of your own mistakes - why would you want to pretend something else to the OP just to make him stay?
Give him all the advice you can think of that could make it easier for him to avoid making a similar mistake again - but please don't give him ISK.
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Squid Prime
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Posted - 2010.09.14 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Edge Horseman
Is there anything i can do
Actually there is, HTFU.
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Rasz Lin
Caldari Racketeers
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Posted - 2010.09.14 12:02:00 -
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LOLz
Just saw today Perimeter->Jita contract that paid 500K, and had same sweet 80mil collateral. As soon as it got accepted I parked on peri gate with my popcorn and watched 5 random BR1CK ships (rohk, 2x tempest, thrasher and some other crap) with sentry drones popped for a while.. I dont think that scam worked tho, as the contract had 24h timer and im pretty sure they wont camp that gate whole day :).
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Rykker Bow
Gallente Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.09.14 12:07:00 -
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An 8 day old player having 80 mil to drop on collateral? I remeber my first 8 days into the game and it didn't include that in my wallet. My eight day was spent recovering from the mental damages the learning curve of the game gave me.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2010.09.14 12:16:00 -
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Originally by: Rasz Lin LOLz
Just saw today Perimeter->Jita contract that paid 500K, and had same sweet 80mil collateral. As soon as it got accepted I parked on peri gate with my popcorn and watched 5 random BR1CK ships (rohk, 2x tempest, thrasher and some other crap) with sentry drones popped for a while.. I dont think that scam worked tho, as the contract had 24h timer and im pretty sure they wont camp that gate whole day :).
Even before the insurance changes you'd be hard pressed to see people bothering putting multiple battleships on the field for a paltry 80M. - Auditing & consulting
When looking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
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Ramingo
Caldari Payable on Death
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Posted - 2010.09.14 12:18:00 -
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Yeah, so not worth the sec status hit 5 of em will take plus ship loss for a paltry 80 mill.
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Jovialmadness
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Posted - 2010.09.14 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: Edge Horseman Ok im not sure if this is the right section but, I accepted a contract with 80 million collateral, it had a 8 million reward and had to be moved 24 jumps (deep into 0.0)
Long story short, i got to the destination and couldnt dock it was denied, i clicked about to see why then checked in the box i was given to deliver, 100 veldspar!!!
Im down to my last million isk and tempted to just walk away 8 days into my 3 month sub.. this shouldnt have been allowed.. Im extremly upset by it
Is there anything i can do, make a complaint or anything?
The name of the scammer is Merciless Trader
If this in the wrong section Sorry
Same thing happened to me bro when i was a new pilot.... Many moons ago. Anyway i ended up joining the alliance and flew out to the station to dock. Once my bidness concluded i gave them a nice verbal lashing then bailed back home to my corp. Was all i could do at the time.
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clixoras
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Posted - 2010.09.14 13:02:00 -
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OP shouldn't have accepted the contract as the chance he would've been ganked *deep in 0.0* was pretty high anyway.
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KaarBaak
Minmatar Hell's Librarians Imperium Directive
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Posted - 2010.09.14 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: Mme Pinkerton
Originally by: Zombatar On that note, I'll give the OP 10 mil if he wont quit. 8 more people and hes collateral is covered. Anyone up to this challenge? Is there any altruism left in EvE?
Lets see if we have 8 people willing to do this, OP will you accept this challenge? Will you stay if we raise 80 mil?
Do you really want to reward people for being careless?
OP was taught a valuable lesson - if that lesson hurts that's all the better (because it will hopefully make him remember it for some time).
In EVE ignorance does not protect you from punishment and you have to suffer from the consequences of your own mistakes - why would you want to pretend something else to the OP just to make him stay?
Give him all the advice you can think of that could make it easier for him to avoid making a similar mistake again - but please don't give him ISK.
If the story is true at all and not just an attempt to get charitable donations from kind-hearted folks.
KB
=vinur allra manna
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.09.14 14:32:00 -
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Edited by: RAW23 on 14/09/2010 14:32:21
Originally by: Mme Pinkerton
Originally by: Zombatar On that note, I'll give the OP 10 mil if he wont quit. 8 more people and hes collateral is covered. Anyone up to this challenge? Is there any altruism left in EvE?
Lets see if we have 8 people willing to do this, OP will you accept this challenge? Will you stay if we raise 80 mil?
Do you really want to reward people for being careless?
OP was taught a valuable lesson - if that lesson hurts that's all the better (because it will hopefully make him remember it for some time).
You seem to have dropped this!
[RAW hands Mme. Pinkerton back her heart]
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Rykker Bow
Gallente Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.09.14 14:47:00 -
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I lol'd
even if it is a scam, it's an entertaining thread. Worth it if you sent some isk'ies. I may even do the same
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Edge Horseman
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Posted - 2010.09.14 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Londo Cebb And a new scam is born!
I never asked for Isk, this thread was never about that!
Thank you everyone for offering to kindly replace the 80 mill, but it is a lesson learned....
Am i going to quit? No I felt like it when i first posted... I have stumbled accross something in the market i can make good returns on, be it slowly...
Again thank you everyone who has offered to replace the money but it wouldnt feel right takeing it...
This can only make me a better player..
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Pellegro
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Posted - 2010.09.14 16:57:00 -
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Hey you seem like a nice guy.
I'm actually on my way to ending my sub - about 4 days left.
If you send me whatever ISK you have, as a show of good faith, I will send you back double the amount. You send me 2 mill, I'll send you back 4 mill. It won't do me any good on the WOW servers, will it??
This way, you can prove once and for all you learned that lesson.
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Edge Horseman
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Posted - 2010.09.14 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: Rykker Bow An 8 day old player having 80 mil to drop on collateral? I remeber my first 8 days into the game and it didn't include that in my wallet. My eight day was spent recovering from the mental damages the learning curve of the game gave me.
Im sorry i dont know how to multi-quote in this forum, lots to learn =)
I started playing a 14 day trial (2 day in), someone was offering to budddy invite me, they told me all the details and offered me 150mill if and when i made a full account.. I loved this game and i subscribed the same day..
As for the learning curve, took me a couple days to figure this game out with evemon i think im doing pretty well with skills ect.. Just this stupid contract seemed like an easy way to increase my wallet by 10% for an hours work, oh well lol
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Edge Horseman
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Posted - 2010.09.14 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Pellegro Hey you seem like a nice guy.
I'm actually on my way to ending my sub - about 4 days left.
If you send me whatever ISK you have, as a show of good faith, I will send you back double the amount. You send me 2 mill, I'll send you back 4 mill. It won't do me any good on the WOW servers, will it??
This way, you can prove once and for all you learned that lesson.
Lol i didnt know a scam like that was possible till i experianced it, as for your offer hmm let me think on it for a few years
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Londo Cebb
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Posted - 2010.09.14 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Edge Horseman
Originally by: Londo Cebb And a new scam is born!
I never asked for Isk, this thread was never about that!
That's the subtly that would make a scam like this work. Make a post saying how you were victimized, then post with an alt posing as a kind hearted player thats going to bail you out, and hope others follow suit.
If you don't want this game to break you, if you don't want to get scammed again this is the mentality that you need to develop.
Unless I was right, in which case you have yourself a nice little, low maintenance scam.
P.S. Arguing that you never asked for isk and telling people not to send you money only makes it look more like a scam. It's exactly what a scammer would say, also it's what a person not scamming would say. This is one of the reason I love EVE.
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Edge Horseman
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Posted - 2010.09.14 17:47:00 -
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Edited by: Edge Horseman on 14/09/2010 17:48:52 Edited by: Edge Horseman on 14/09/2010 17:48:13
Originally by: Londo Cebb
Originally by: Edge Horseman
Originally by: Londo Cebb And a new scam is born!
I never asked for Isk, this thread was never about that!
That's the subtly that would make a scam like this work. Make a post saying how you were victimized, then post with an alt posing as a kind hearted player thats going to bail you out, and hope others follow suit.
If you don't want this game to break you, if you don't want to get scammed again this is the mentality that you need to develop.
Unless I was right, in which case you have yourself a nice little, low maintenance scam.
P.S. Arguing that you never asked for isk and telling people not to send you money only makes it look more like a scam. It's exactly what a scammer would say, also it's what a person not scamming would say. This is one of the reason I love EVE.
Im not going to argue with you because i think your an idiot, if thi helps proove i am new to EVE before i came here i played another MMO and was ranked 240 on the server that i was playing for over a year.. Proof? My last MMO retirement video Luckily i know everyone isnt like you or i would leave this game
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Mme Pinkerton
United Engineering Services
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Posted - 2010.09.14 18:58:00 -
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Edited by: Mme Pinkerton on 14/09/2010 19:06:23
Originally by: Edge Horseman Im not going to argue with you because i think your an idiot, if thi helps proove i am new to EVE before i came here i played another MMO and was ranked 240 on the server that i was playing for over a year.. Proof? My last MMO retirement video Luckily i know everyone isnt like you or i would leave this game
You should realize that people are actually doing the kind of stuff Londo Cebb describes.
They create a new alt and sit in some hub, starter system or NPC corp chat claiming to be new to the game and collecting donations from the more altruistically-inclined of their fellow capsuleers.
Quote: if you don't want to get scammed again this is the mentality that you need to develop.
QFT
In EVE it is healthy to be paranoid - when you interact with another player you should always consider the possibility of him trying to screw you over, even if you think you know him well but especially if it is somebody completely unknown to you (if you haven't watched the new EVE trailer yet, you definitely should do so - it's inspired by real events). Betraying the people who you made think they are your friends is marketed as one of the key features of this game. Almost all kinds of deception, scam and theft are not only tolerated but encouraged by the developers of this game.
In return you shouldn't take it personally if other people look the same way at you - the question is not "why do they expect me to be a scammer?" but "why ffs should they trust me?". If you are honest to yourself you will notice that in most cases they don't have any reason to assume that you really are who you claim to be and that your intentions really are what you just told them.
And no matter whether you are legit or not - once it becomes known that the guys in MD like to hand out free ISK to any new player who threatens to quit the game there will show up people emulating the same kind of post in order to scam.
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Commander Godsmack
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Posted - 2010.09.14 19:11:00 -
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Where have the Medical Doctorate trolls go?!?!?!? - I read this post and at least the first few responses where in some way supportive/sympathetic towards the OP
Please if there is someone which is documenting this in a scientific journal may i get a copy of your publication?
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Lucyna
Minmatar Interstellar Killer Bee Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.09.15 00:20:00 -
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Perhaps OP wanted to scam MD out of some of their "Pity Fund"
The scam that rivaled T4U??
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Londo Cebb
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Posted - 2010.09.15 00:21:00 -
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Originally by: Edge Horseman
Luckily I know everyone isn't like you or I would leave this game
I will forgive you personal attack against me. If you do keep playing this game you will eventually realize that I was really trying to help you. When this happens, I expect an apology and a thank you. In the much more likely case that you quit this game, please let me know so I can laugh at you on your way out. This isn't some warm and fuzzy browser MMO, this is EVE. If people can hurt you is ANY way, they will because they can. CCP's motto is HTFU.
I suggest you take the advice and harden the **** up.
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