|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 27 post(s) |
Logix42
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
57
|
Posted - 2012.07.30 15:32:00 -
[1] - Quote
Right off the bat when you say "It will take around ninety minutes to complete" I think it would increase readability if you use the number 90 instead of the word. Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE.-á Check out the G-Doc list at http://bit.ly/wdatt or the Eve-áforum post at http://bit.ly/I56ebm |
Logix42
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
58
|
Posted - 2012.07.30 15:48:00 -
[2] - Quote
When starting a conversation with Aura for the first time, the "People & Places" button on the Neocom begins to flash as it does when a player is offered a new mission. But as a new player I am very likely to click on flashing buttons. When I click on "People & Places" it opens to the "Places" tab. As a new player I would be thinking "Ok, why the hell was this button flashing?"
Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE.-á Check out the G-Doc list at http://bit.ly/wdatt or the Eve-áforum post at http://bit.ly/I56ebm |
Logix42
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
60
|
Posted - 2012.07.30 18:33:00 -
[3] - Quote
You say in the devblog players prefer the right-click method. However in step 19 of the tutorial you say "To look at a ship or other object in space, select it, and use the the Look At button in Selected Item, which looks like an eye."
Either change this to right click instructions, or add a pointer, pointing to the eye on the selected item panel. Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE.-á Check out the G-Doc list at http://bit.ly/wdatt or the Eve-áforum post at http://bit.ly/I56ebm |
Logix42
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
60
|
Posted - 2012.07.30 19:02:00 -
[4] - Quote
In step 23 Learning about corporations you show new players the corporation search window. There are so many options here it is scary. When I open it I can just imagine the new players screaming as you toss them nonchalantly over the cliff. What about pointing them to something like a list of the "Educational Corps" you have on the Evelopedia? http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Educational_organizations Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE.-á Check out the G-Doc list at http://bit.ly/wdatt or the Eve-áforum post at http://bit.ly/I56ebm |
Logix42
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
60
|
Posted - 2012.07.30 20:10:00 -
[5] - Quote
Section 23: Additional Reading should not include medical clones. Corporations and skills are fine to talk about while your ship is auto-piloting to a station but the medical clones bit should be saved until the player is IN a station. It is more relevant there, where they can actually upgrade their clone while they read that bit of the tutorial. Having them read it while flying in space is a recipe for forgetting and then them cursing you when they die and lose skill points. Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE.-á Check out the G-Doc list at http://bit.ly/wdatt or the Eve-áforum post at http://bit.ly/I56ebm |
Logix42
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
61
|
Posted - 2012.07.30 20:42:00 -
[6] - Quote
First career choosen was military so working through it. Step 3 of 10 rewarded a ship, now a new player would be like "cool I'm getting a shiny new ship" click on the complete mission button and *POOF*, mission is complete, can continue on to the next one, but what about that elusive ship? Where did it go? This is the first time the player has been given a ship in a station and does not know where to find it, or if they find it, how to switch to that ship.
The tutorial needs to show the new player the Ship Hangar at this point, which is the first time they are given a new ship other than the rookie one, which they are given in space (See Tutorial 06: Ship Movement) Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE.-á Check out the G-Doc list at http://bit.ly/wdatt or the Eve-áforum post at http://bit.ly/I56ebm Note: on holidays until September, list may be out of date |
Logix42
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
62
|
Posted - 2012.07.30 20:51:00 -
[7] - Quote
In step 3 of 10 for the military mission there is some commentary from the NPC in the Local chat channel, this is cool because it adds depth to the story. But what if I'm a new player and have the Rookie chat open, or another chat tab? The local tab flashes this is true, but it's a tiny tab and as a new player I would interested in making these flashing red guys explode. (Yay explosions) This is the first time I would have encountered a NPC speaking to me in the Local tab. It would be good to have a quick note from Aura telling that. Preferably as soon as I warp into the site and he starts talking to me. Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE.-á Check out the G-Doc list at http://bit.ly/wdatt or the Eve-áforum post at http://bit.ly/I56ebm Note: on holidays until September, list may be out of date |
Logix42
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
63
|
Posted - 2012.07.30 21:08:00 -
[8] - Quote
I know I'm posting a lot but hey you wrote a tutorial, I'm testing and giving feedback
So, Step 4 of 10 Military tutorial (Minmatar) I am given a 1MN Afterburner and the Afterburner tutorial pops up. Step 2 of 5 says "To use this module, open the fitting service and drag it to your ship." I try that and it tells me I don't have the required skills. The tutorial has not given me a skill book. And I have not been introduced to the market because I chose the military career path first. (And I was told in step 24: Career Agents "You can take these courses in any order, so start with whatever interests you most.")
As a new player I would be greatly saddened and confused. I can not use this awesome looking rocket booster thingy and I have no idea where to get the skill book to train for it.
The tutorial should provide the skill book or help me find it. Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE.-á Check out the G-Doc list at http://bit.ly/wdatt or the Eve-áforum post at http://bit.ly/I56ebm Note: on holidays until September, list may be out of date |
Logix42
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
64
|
Posted - 2012.07.30 21:27:00 -
[9] - Quote
Starting step 5 of 10 Military tutorial (Minmatar) triggers the Acceleration gates tutorial. This is completely unneeded though. In Tutorial 06 of the Basic tutorials you taught me how to use an Acceleration gate. The only information that is new here is "These devices are made to fling you into otherwise inaccessible pockets of space within the solar system." The inaccessible thing is new info to the player. O and something about having to be with 2500m? That's old. If you click on activate now-a-days and you're farther away than 2500m you will approach until you're close enough and then the gate will activate. Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE.-á Check out the G-Doc list at http://bit.ly/wdatt or the Eve-áforum post at http://bit.ly/I56ebm Note: on holidays until September, list may be out of date |
Logix42
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
64
|
Posted - 2012.07.30 21:51:00 -
[10] - Quote
(Minmatar) Implants tutorial - Removing Implants, says "Be sure that your clone is up-to-date and that you want to use your implant at this exact time before plugging it in."
New player may have thoughts such as: "Wait a minute, up-to-date clone, what is this new terminology? does my clone have an expiry date? is it like cheese, getting better with age? or does it go bad like last weeks tuna casserole? how does this affect my implants? if I plug in an implant and then upgrade my medical clone do I lose implants?"
Questions that would require an answer... so... ya Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE.-á Check out the G-Doc list at http://bit.ly/wdatt or the Eve-áforum post at http://bit.ly/I56ebm Note: on holidays until September, list may be out of date |
|
Logix42
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
64
|
Posted - 2012.07.30 21:59:00 -
[11] - Quote
Ok before I go any further, it really looks like the advance tutorials, the ones for the career agents have not been updated, before I go scrutinizing them could I get a dev response as to whether they've actually been updated? No point in me dissecting them if there are changes soon to come Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE.-á Check out the G-Doc list at http://bit.ly/wdatt or the Eve-áforum post at http://bit.ly/I56ebm Note: on holidays until September, list may be out of date |
Logix42
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
64
|
Posted - 2012.07.30 22:45:00 -
[12] - Quote
Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:I've tried the new tutorial-arc on SISi, and overall, I must say, most impressive!
But no more Aura-voice?
Dis maek meh haz a sad :(
But seriously guys, please do try to bring that back when feasible to do so -- Speaking only for myself, of course, but a HUGE part of my initial immersion (read: Falling in love so bloody hard with Mme. EVE) was from that voice-over.
I also loved the voice over when I began, glad to read in the dev blog that you're actively looking into it. Sooner the better Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE.-á Check out the G-Doc list at http://bit.ly/wdatt or the Eve-áforum post at http://bit.ly/I56ebm Note: on holidays until September, list may be out of date |
Logix42
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
64
|
Posted - 2012.07.31 17:57:00 -
[13] - Quote
CCP Greyscale wrote: New players are going to have neither the money nor the need to upgrade their clone at this point, so I think it's kinda a moot point. We put the additional reading in to fill time while you travel; if we don't mention clones there we're not mentioning them elsewhere as we don't want to break up the actual learning stages with irrelevant info, and we feel that it's better to mention them than not
Excellent point, didn't think about them not being able to afford it. Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE.-á Check out the G-Doc list at http://bit.ly/wdatt or the Eve-áforum post at http://bit.ly/I56ebm Note: on holidays until September, list may be out of date |
|
|
|