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TheMahdi
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Posted - 2010.09.29 13:04:00 -
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Hi,
I'm looking for an Imperial Navy Slicer solo or duo (with a Taranis) fit. Thanks.
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Rakshan
Gallente Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.09.29 13:28:00 -
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navy slicer, snipa pulse 2xmedium pulse laser II(scorch) small unstable neut
Gistii B-type MWD warp disrupter II
2x coproc II 2x heat sink II TE II
small energy locus 2x auxilary thrusters
22k optimal with scorch
not at home atm but i think this is how mine is fit. you can offline the neut and drop the TE and fit a small repper if you like to repair any damages taken. Life is Pain.....Get over it!!!! |
Terianna Eri
Amarr Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2010.09.29 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: Rakshan navy slicer, snipa pulse ... 2x coproc II ...
BOOST SLICER CPU PLZ KTHX ________________
Originally by: CCP Incognito PS the "time to P*nis" is the shortest time recorded in human history. :)
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TheMahdi
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Posted - 2010.10.01 13:56:00 -
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This is the fit I decided to go with. It relies staying at your optimal 22km range and being fast.
Normally wouldn't fit the neut, needs 3% CPU implant, but I thought since I already have the implant, why not? Otherwise, no small neut.
If you get scrammed you die quickly tho, but the range and good DPS do turn the tides of most fights quickly.
[Imperial Navy Slicer, New Setup 1] Overdrive Injector System II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Tracking Enhancer II Heat Sink II
Warp Disruptor II Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Small Energy Locus Coordinator I Small Semiconductor Memory Cell I Small Semiconductor Memory Cell I
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.10.01 14:10:00 -
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If you want to try a heavyer fit!
Imperial Navy Slicer
Heat Sink II 200mm Reinforced Nanofiber Plates I 2x Adaptive Nano Plating II Damage Control II
Initiated Harmonic Warp Scrambler I Phased Monopropellant I Hydrazine Boosters
2x Dual Light Pulse Laser II: Navy Multi
Small Energy Collision Accelerator I 2x Small Trimark Armor Pump I
-- Fine Mag's no Purple ok!
But I am the Snyper Queen!
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Templar Dane
Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2010.10.01 16:41:00 -
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If it had a tad more cpu and a high/low moved to a mid.....it would be pure sex.
I typically fit it with a tech 2 disruptor, and nano the crap out of it.
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STARRAVENN
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Posted - 2010.10.01 20:07:00 -
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Since no other ship compete with the dramiel speedwise, there is no point to fit slicer with long range guns and nano/overdrives. Best usage of this ship is close range dogfighter eventually. Here is the example fit below, 144 dps with navy MF, 19 km optimal with scorch, 6000 ehp, can run the rep approx. 1 min;
[Imperial Navy Slicer, GLADIUS] 200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Heat Sink II Adaptive Nano Plating II Small Armor Repairer II Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Gatling Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S Gatling Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S Small Diminishing Power System Drain I
Small Energy Locus Coordinator I Small Energy Locus Coordinator I Small Energy Locus Coordinator I
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Zeba ForumWhoor
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.10.01 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: Terianna Eri
Originally by: Rakshan navy slicer, snipa pulse ... 2x coproc II ...
BOOST SLICER CPU PLZ KTHX
Indeed. Otherwise to fit it with t2 mod gank fit like you can with any other normal faction frigate you literally have to do this to make it viable.
1.49 cpu left..
[Imperial Navy Slicer, :-(] Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Heat Sink Domination Tracking Enhancer Domination Tracking Enhancer
Gistii A-Type 1MN MicroWarpdrive Domination Warp Disruptor
Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S [empty high slot] Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Small Algid Energy Administrations Unit I Small Auxiliary Thrusters II Small Auxiliary Thrusters II
But I fly my slicer as a mini zealot as it waaaay outranges all other frigates and the majority of cruisers. Plus its hilarious to get someone to chase me in a direction that is not aligned to anything handy to warp to so when they realize 'oh shiat im gonna die long before i get to him' and try to warp out they die anyways before they can realign for warp.
[Imperial Navy Slicer, 60km Mini Zealot] Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Imperial Navy Heat Sink <-I have loads of amarr fw lp so don't whinge about the cost effeciency. ;p Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range
Medium Beam Laser II, Aurora S [empty high slot] Medium Beam Laser II, Aurora S
Small Algid Energy Administrations Unit I Small Algid Energy Administrations Unit I Small Energy Discharge Elutriation II
Use aurora on anything chasing you and also on dessy hulls and up that you are orbiting or IN radio for orbiting and trying to hit frigates.
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TheMahdi
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Posted - 2010.10.01 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba ForumWhoor
[Imperial Navy Slicer, 60km Mini Zealot] Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Imperial Navy Heat Sink <-I have loads of amarr fw lp so don't whinge about the cost effeciency. ;p Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range
Medium Beam Laser II, Aurora S [empty high slot] Medium Beam Laser II, Aurora S
Small Algid Energy Administrations Unit I Small Algid Energy Administrations Unit I Small Energy Discharge Elutriation II
Use aurora on anything chasing you and also on dessy hulls and up that you are orbiting or IN radio for orbiting and trying to hit frigates.
I like it, nice KM whoring fit too. Would work great with a wingman too.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.10.02 07:05:00 -
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Originally by: TheMahdi
Originally by: Zeba ForumWhoor
[Imperial Navy Slicer, 60km Mini Zealot] Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Imperial Navy Heat Sink <-I have loads of amarr fw lp so don't whinge about the cost effeciency. ;p Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range
Medium Beam Laser II, Aurora S [empty high slot] Medium Beam Laser II, Aurora S
Small Algid Energy Administrations Unit I Small Algid Energy Administrations Unit I Small Energy Discharge Elutriation II
Use aurora on anything chasing you and also on dessy hulls and up that you are orbiting or IN radio for orbiting and trying to hit frigates.
I like it, nice KM whoring fit too. Would work great with a wingman too.
Tbh if you have a wingman then use this fit if he is going for the dedicated tackle. Works best with IN multi if you think the target is a total tard. Otherwise stick to scorch for the gtfo potential.
[Imperial Navy Slicer, zap zap zap] Fourier Transform I Tracking Program Fourier Transform I Tracking Program Tracking Enhancer II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Heat Sink II
Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Tracking Speed Disruption
Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S [empty high slot] Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Small Energy Collision Accelerator I Small Auxiliary Thrusters I Small Dynamic Fuel Valve I
Is it better than say some other damage dealing non tackling frigate? Maybe, maybe not. But sexy headlights have to count for something.
Originally by: Blane Xero Zeba a fanboi, Haha, Christ, Pull the other one will you.
Originally by: Ryhss There is no paranoia in Eve, everyone is out to get you....
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2010.10.02 11:23:00 -
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Say no to the nano-Slicer!!!11
You'll die horribly to the first small ship with a scram (ie. a LOT) and you will probably die to any medium AC boat as they can track you just fine with a single TE. Nano-Slicer just has a very limited target selection to choose from unless you go after noobs/knobs who wouldn't know PvP if it pods them.
Beam-Slicer with an array squeezed in makes for an excellent anti-griffin/kitsune platform. MP/MWD/Scram with an array and light tank + grails makes for a surprisingly effective anti-Blackbird/Failcon platform.
My standard fit these days: 2x MPII MWD, Scram SARII, DCUII, 2xANPII, HSII 2x Metastasis, 1xLocus. PS: Use 3xMetastasis or drop to DLPII if hunting dual-prop Dramiels.
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Intigo
Amarr Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.10.02 13:24:00 -
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Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Say no to the nano-Slicer!!!11
You'll die horribly to the first small ship with a scram (ie. a LOT) and you will probably die to any medium AC boat as they can track you just fine with a single TE. Nano-Slicer just has a very limited target selection to choose from unless you go after noobs/knobs who wouldn't know PvP if it pods them.
Beam-Slicer with an array squeezed in makes for an excellent anti-griffin/kitsune platform. MP/MWD/Scram with an array and light tank + grails makes for a surprisingly effective anti-Blackbird/Failcon platform.
My standard fit these days: 2x MPII MWD, Scram SARII, DCUII, 2xANPII, HSII 2x Metastasis, 1xLocus. PS: Use 3xMetastasis or drop to DLPII if hunting dual-prop Dramiels.
You are dumb. ___________________
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2010.10.02 13:32:00 -
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Originally by: Intigo You are dumb.
And fitting a 15-40M hull with 80-120M in modules to get a ship that dies to the first scrambler, seeing as Dramiel's are still everywhere is smart?
In that case I'll take dumb any day of the week thank you very much
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.10.02 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Hirana Yoshida
Originally by: Intigo You are dumb.
And fitting a 15-40M hull with 80-120M in modules to get a ship that dies to the first scrambler, seeing as Dramiel's are still everywhere is smart?
In that case I'll take dumb any day of the week thank you very much
Don't feel bad about Intigo, she hates everyone we learn to live with it. Like that creepy quite kid in the class that yells at whoever talks to them!
-- Fine Mag's no Purple ok!
But I am the Snyper Queen!
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Intigo
Amarr Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.10.02 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: Hirana Yoshida
Originally by: Intigo You are dumb.
And fitting a 15-40M hull with 80-120M in modules to get a ship that dies to the first scrambler, seeing as Dramiel's are still everywhere is smart?
In that case I'll take dumb any day of the week thank you very much
You don't need 80-120M in modules to fit the IN Slicer efficiently. I'm not saying any of the fits posted in this thread are good (knowing EVE-O, chances are they are all hilariously bad - like yours), I'm just saying that you are dumb.
Which, as you have proven earlier, is very much true. ___________________
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Templar Dane
Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2010.10.02 15:00:00 -
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I believe what Intigo is hinting at, is that a slicer doesn't want to brawl. You will lose to destroyers, dramiels, wolves, jags, daredevils, ranises.....etc etc etc
Medium pulse track like cruiser guns, gatling pulse hit like a sissy. You can't fit a point AND a web, so anything with a web can dictate range, and they will orbit you at close range and use their superior tracking against you.
A slicer screams "I KITE YOU!". In order to do this, you need to be faster than them. A nano slicer's prey is anything slower than it, that can't hit out as far as you. A lot of AFs, and even some intercepters are fitting afterburners now.
If you're looking for a dramiel killing machine, this is not it.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2010.10.02 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Alara IonStorm Don't feel bad about Intigo, she hates everyone we learn to live with it. Like that creepy quite kid in the class that yells at whoever talks to them!
I don't, I do feel bad for him though. Must have had a crappy childhood and is in for an even worse adulthood with a disposition like that.
Originally by: Templar Dane I believe what Intigo is hinting at, is that a slicer doesn't want to brawl. You will lose to destroyers, dramiels, wolves, jags, daredevils, ranises.....etc etc etc...
First of all, you stay away from any and all T2 Minmatar ships when flying a laser boat .. you WILL lose no matter what. - Destroyers I kill in Punishers, Slicer gives me same tank but way more speed, range, damage .. - Dramiels die with enough tracking (AB/Dual-prop), DLP+2xMetastasis or MP+3xMetastasis .. as I mentioned. - Haven't met a DD yet but I doubt I can kill it, would need to cripple him from range but difficult with most packing faction webs. - Only fear DP Taranis to be honest and even then I am likely to win the DPS race as I'll have him in deep armour before his damage comes 'online'.
Web is redundant when you go tracking crazy with rigs like I do. There is no way to get under high tracking guns on the frigate scale you either slow down or widen the orbit, either will the tracking tank fail.
Only a few AF's/Inties use AB .. that gimmick died with faction frigate buff. Most notable still 'alive' is the Claw. Rest are packing MWD or dual-prop so your survival in a nano-slicer (NS) is 100% determined on the timing of MWD overheating .. Slicer is slow to turn even when nanoed so a straight heated MWD burst gets you scrambled -> dead.
You are correct that the NS's prey needs to be slower, but with MWD overheating you need to have a significant speed advantage which isn't possible against anything but plated or AB ships .. else the single heated burst grabs you. I tried the nano-solution for a while but once you realise that you don't actually get many kills because you die, warp to rep or prey escapes it kind of loses its appeal.
CPU is not an issue once you accept that the man with a gun at your head forcing you to use a disruptor is an illusion PS: Adaptive Nano Platings are your friend. PPS: Dramiels really freak out when they are in armour before they have achieved a stable orbit.
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Intigo
Amarr Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.10.02 16:30:00 -
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It's amazing that one person can hurf blurf so much and still be so utterly wrong.
I suppose it's a bit of a skill for people who don't actually PvP ingame. ___________________
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.10.02 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: Intigo I'm not saying any of the fits posted in this thread are good (knowing EVE-O, chances are they are all hilariously bad)
Hi Intigo. \o
Could you post a few slicer fits please? I would love to see how you set them us as you seem to be a small ship kind of guy from your kb stats.
Originally by: Blane Xero Zeba a fanboi, Haha, Christ, Pull the other one will you.
Originally by: Ryhss There is no paranoia in Eve, everyone is out to get you....
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Templar Dane
Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2010.10.02 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: Hirana Yoshida
First of all, you stay away from any and all T2 Minmatar ships when flying a laser boat .. you WILL lose no matter what. - Destroyers I kill in Punishers[except thrashers, which is what everybody uses anyway], Slicer gives me same tank but way more speed, range, damage .. - Dramiels run away with enough tracking (AB/Dual-prop), DLP+2xMetastasis or MP+3xMetastasis .. as I mentioned. - Haven't met a DD yet but I doubt I can kill it, would need to cripple him from range but difficult with most packing faction webs. - Only fear DP Taranis to be honest and even then I am likely to win the DPS race as I'll have him in deep armour before his damage comes 'online'.
Web is redundant when you go tracking crazy with rigs like I do. There is no way to get under high tracking guns on the frigate scale you either slow down or widen the orbit, either will the tracking tank fail.
Fixed some of that.
Web is not redundant, ever. Webs make it harder for prey to escape, and make it easier for YOU to escape if need be. It helps your slower friends catch up and hit the target. That is in addition to it's effect on controlling transversal.
Now, if a slicer could fit a web...it would be extremely dangerous. Kiting at the edge of web range, there wouldn't be much in the way frigates it couldn't take down. Though, that might be a good thing.
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hjgjgfgfgsj
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Posted - 2010.10.29 16:52:00 -
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Generally the best idea for slicers seems to be fitting pulse lasers with scorch, and kite at around 20km.
Seems to work fine.
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yyyyxorp
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Posted - 2010.10.29 18:18:00 -
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Slicer dies to anythng with a MWD and half a brain. Its one of the only ships where im on able to increase its effectivness, in situation where it does'nt excel (most well-ounded ships are able to do this).
Fact is you wont be able to keep a mwd'ing frigate in point range all the time. So some would suggest if thats the case, you should gank fit it, but you're also unable to react to changing situations in a timely manner. For instance; you're engage a frigate and another one lands on grid already overheated and 20 - 35k away, or your on gate and a frigate uncloaks and immediately closes range to engage you. You can either jump threw or engage and die with honor 07
Even pilots that use snakes, are pray to non-snaked shield-Rifter pilots. I have found away around some of these issues, but i have'nt engaged enough to realy come to a conclusion. I have to setups for the Slicer; one that is able to track all frigates, bar Abing, Firetail, Dram, and Interceptors, while doing 150dps/(w plants) and a active tank like the gank-crusader. The other setup has a 27k optimal, 4k falloff, and 28k point, with alot of faction pimp!
Most setups ive seen so far are not very well-rounded and thats because of the limited CPU. You will get caught in the slicer and thats a fact, which means you should be able to be effective in those situations. Any slicer that is unable to do so is not a good Slicer IMO.
-proxyyyy
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Scorpionidae
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Posted - 2010.10.29 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: yyyyxorp
Can we see those fits plz?
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hjgjgfgfgsj
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Posted - 2010.10.29 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Scorpionidae
Originally by: yyyyxorp
Can we see those fits plz?
He kinda sounds like a ******, but he's right about it being easy to drive slicers off.
My rifter loadout is capable of making orbit at 20k slicers run away in terror.
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