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Makhar
Guild Alliance Executor Guild Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.11 16:54:00 -
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I'm upgrading PCs. The primary role of my PC is to run EVE as I usually work from my laptop. So.... although both are supported, which is better for a machine running EVE? A 64-bit OS or a 32-bit OS? ____ ~ Guild Alliance ~ |
Illwill Bill
Svea Rike Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.10.11 16:56:00 -
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It really depends on what else you will be using it for. As long as you stay with less than 4gb RAM, a 32-bit OS will do fine. However, you might want to upgrade in the future, and while a 64-bit OS will run 32-bit code, the 32-bit OS will not be able to run 64-code.
Originally by: CCP Navigator Great story but you probably want this in CAOD so feel free to post there with your main.
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.11 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Makhar I'm upgrading PCs. The primary role of my PC is to run EVE as I usually work from my laptop. So.... although both are supported, which is better for a machine running EVE? A 64-bit OS or a 32-bit OS?
if you get a new pc with less than 3 gigs of ram shoot yourself.
seriously, 64 bit.
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Calathea Sata
State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.10.11 16:56:00 -
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Simple answer will be 64-bit. Long answer will be "I'm too lazy to explain, just go for 64-bit".
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.10.11 16:58:00 -
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Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 17:01:01 Id say 32 for most games.64 isnt really supported by a lot of games or programs.People will tell you other wise im sure.Just google problems installing games on windows 7 64bit.
youll see what I mean.
lol and before I finish posting,there they go.
google "problems installing games on windows 7 64bit" and see for yourself
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Ollie Cromwell
Caldari Seniors Clan DEM0N HUNTERS
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Posted - 2010.10.11 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: Calathea Sata Simple answer will be 64-bit. Long answer will be "I'm too lazy to explain, just go for 64-bit".
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Cathleia
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Posted - 2010.10.11 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11 Id say 32 for most games.64 isnt really supported by a lot of games or programs.People will tell you other wise im sure.Just google problems installing games on windows 7 64bit.
youll see what I mean.
Yes, I see what you mean. I see you have been living under a rock.
Get 64bit, there is no reason (for the normal guy) anymore to get a 32bit OS today.
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.10.11 17:03:00 -
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Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 17:09:47
Originally by: Cathleia
Originally by: HeIIfire11 Id say 32 for most games.64 isnt really supported by a lot of games or programs.People will tell you other wise im sure.Just google problems installing games on windows 7 64bit.
youll see what I mean.
Yes, I see what you mean. I see you have been living under a rock.
Get 64bit, there is no reason (for the normal guy) anymore to get a 32bit OS today.
and you want to know it all mr.under a rock.My wife has windows 7 64 and has nothing but problems installing anything,while Im already gaming.To each their own.
just google it "problems installing games on windows 7 64bit"
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Ultim8Evil
Ministry Of Eternal Disorder
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Posted - 2010.10.11 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher Jones
Originally by: Makhar I'm upgrading PCs. The primary role of my PC is to run EVE as I usually work from my laptop. So.... although both are supported, which is better for a machine running EVE? A 64-bit OS or a 32-bit OS?
if you get a new pc with less than 3 gigs of ram shoot yourself.
seriously, 64 bit.
QFT
The *only* problem I have encountered with years of running a 64-bit OS is that the 32-bit BIOS flashing tool for my laptop won't run and there is no 64-bit version. ---------------------------------------------------------------
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Rudolph Heimlich
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Posted - 2010.10.11 17:13:00 -
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Edited by: Rudolph Heimlich on 11/10/2010 17:14:24 Unless you are aware of any reasons for you personally not to use 64-bit, it is what you should go for. Chances are you'll do just fine with 32-bit, as very few programs for non-power users requires >4GB RAM to be allocated at any one time - eve included. But 64-bit is the future. And I am also assuming you run Windows, which has an inbuilt emulator that works well for most things that do not support 64-bit yet.
Originally by: HeIIfire11
and you want to know it all mr.under a rock.My wife has windows 7 64 and has nothing but problems installing anything,while Im already gaming.To each their own.
Rarely has the OS been the problem when a woman encounters a computer-related problem.
To be serious... I use 64-bit on all my computers and I have not had any problems installing any software or game that is caused by me using 64-bit. It has been quite a while since I've heard a lot of complaints from other people running 64-bit, so I am guessing your problem lies with outdated software or hardware instead, tbh.
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bassie12bf1
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Posted - 2010.10.11 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11 Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 17:01:01 Id say 32 for most games.64 isnt really supported by a lot of games or programs.People will tell you other wise im sure.Just google problems installing games on windows 7 64bit.
youll see what I mean.
lol and before I finish posting,there they go.
google "problems installing games on windows 7 64bit" and see for yourself
I have yet to see a game that wouldn't work under windows 7 64bit.
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.10.11 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Rudolph Heimlich Edited by: Rudolph Heimlich on 11/10/2010 17:14:24 Unless you are aware of any reasons for you personally not to use 64-bit, it is what you should go for. Chances are you'll do just fine with 32-bit, as very few programs for non-power users requires >4GB RAM to be allocated at any one time - eve included. But 64-bit is the future. And I am also assuming you run Windows, which has an inbuilt emulator that works well for most things that do not support 64-bit yet.
Originally by: HeIIfire11
and you want to know it all mr.under a rock.My wife has windows 7 64 and has nothing but problems installing anything,while Im already gaming.To each their own.
Rarely has the OS been the problem when a woman encounters a computer-related problem.
To be serious... I use 64-bit on all my computers and I have not had any problems installing any software or game that is caused by me using 64-bit. It has been quite a while since I've heard a lot of complaints from other people running 64-bit, so I am guessing your problem lies with outdated software or hardware instead, tbh.
By the time 64 is fully used youll be getting a new computer..
Googl it damn it,copy and past this"problems installing games on windows 7 64bit" do it now beavis!!
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bassie12bf1
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Posted - 2010.10.11 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11
Originally by: Rudolph Heimlich Edited by: Rudolph Heimlich on 11/10/2010 17:14:24 Unless you are aware of any reasons for you personally not to use 64-bit, it is what you should go for. Chances are you'll do just fine with 32-bit, as very few programs for non-power users requires >4GB RAM to be allocated at any one time - eve included. But 64-bit is the future. And I am also assuming you run Windows, which has an inbuilt emulator that works well for most things that do not support 64-bit yet.
Originally by: HeIIfire11
and you want to know it all mr.under a rock.My wife has windows 7 64 and has nothing but problems installing anything,while Im already gaming.To each their own.
Rarely has the OS been the problem when a woman encounters a computer-related problem.
To be serious... I use 64-bit on all my computers and I have not had any problems installing any software or game that is caused by me using 64-bit. It has been quite a while since I've heard a lot of complaints from other people running 64-bit, so I am guessing your problem lies with outdated software or hardware instead, tbh.
By the time 64 is fully used youll be getting a new computer..
Googl it damn it,copy and past this"problems installing games on windows 7 64bit" do it now beavis!!
I looked, founds results of stuff regarding really old games or stuff that's caused by other things.
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Ultim8Evil
Ministry Of Eternal Disorder
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Posted - 2010.10.11 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: bassie12bf1
Originally by: HeIIfire11 Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 17:01:01 Id say 32 for most games.64 isnt really supported by a lot of games or programs.People will tell you other wise im sure.Just google problems installing games on windows 7 64bit.
youll see what I mean.
lol and before I finish posting,there they go.
google "problems installing games on windows 7 64bit" and see for yourself
I have yet to see a game that wouldn't work under windows 7 64bit.
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Othran
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2010.10.11 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: bassie12bf1
I have yet to see a game that wouldn't work under windows 7 64bit.
I've seen PLENTY that work fine but the (32-bit) installer won't install. Admittedly they're old games but they are from the XP era. Install on XP then copy across to Win7 and most (if not all) will be fine. The installer isn't fine though and that's the issue.
Unless you know why you need to stay on 32-bit then go 64-bit. There are valid reasons for staying 32-bit but they're unlikely to apply to your desktop/lappie.
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2010.10.11 17:23:00 -
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I'd install a 64-bit OS except for the fact that my original Audigy 1 Platinum with 5 1/4" expansion is not compatible with 64-bit Windows. There are no drivers for it.
And I use the stuff on the front all the time for my DJ work, so it's really not an option for me yet.
Why do good hardware manufacturers always backpedal on products they've made that are awesome? (Creative, Logitech, etc.)
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Rudolph Heimlich
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Posted - 2010.10.11 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11
By the time 64 is fully used youll be getting a new computer..
Googl it damn it,copy and past this"problems installing games on windows 7 64bit" do it now beavis!!
64 bit works but installing stuff is always a mission.google it and you will see the tears.And my 32 rocks,with now problem playing anything turned all up.For eve..good enough anyday..with all settings on high assuming you have the right hardware.
I'm not sure what your point is here. 1) Google almost anything related to popular software and you'll find people having trouble. Some of it may be right, most of it is because people don't know how to upgrade their drivers, DirectX or something else, not related to weather they run 32 or 64-bit.
2) Most of the results I found were caused by something else completely. Like this. Not to spoil the ending for someone, but it showed up at the top of the suggested search, and had nothing to do with the 64-bit OS.
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Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
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Posted - 2010.10.11 17:28:00 -
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Simple answer would be "depends heavily". If you do not plan to use that PC for work, go ahead, install 64bit. If you care, 32bit would be better choice, as 64bit Windows have known issues with many programs and drivers. 64 bit POSIX systems don't have issues with programs, but with drivers - more often, unfortunatelly. -- Thanks CCP for cu |
Phoenix IV
The 8th Order
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Posted - 2010.10.11 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: Makhar I'm upgrading PCs. The primary role of my PC is to run EVE as I usually work from my laptop. So.... although both are supported, which is better for a machine running EVE? A 64-bit OS or a 32-bit OS?
If you'd like to use more than 3.5 GB RAM, install the 64-bit version. The only problem you can experience with 64-bit is that there may be no drivers for some older hardware (e.g. printers), but you can check this on the web before you install the OS.
p.s. EVE works fine with Windows 7 64-bit.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.10.11 17:32:00 -
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We've come to another Win98 vs. WinNT break: any software (game or otherwise) that has issues running under 64bit is incompetently programmed and needs to be given a swift metal bolt to the skull to cut its suffering short.
Also, said incompetent programmers need to be told that they are incompetent, and get their skills up to par or get out of the business.
Run 64 bit. If you come across something that is giving you problems, that's a good sign that you shouldn't be using it to begin with. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.10.11 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Rudolph Heimlich
Originally by: HeIIfire11
By the time 64 is fully used youll be getting a new computer..
Googl it damn it,copy and past this"problems installing games on windows 7 64bit" do it now beavis!!
64 bit works but installing stuff is always a mission.google it and you will see the tears.And my 32 rocks,with now problem playing anything turned all up.For eve..good enough anyday..with all settings on high assuming you have the right hardware.
I'm not sure what your point is here. 1) Google almost anything related to popular software and you'll find people having trouble. Some of it may be right, most of it is because people don't know how to upgrade their drivers, DirectX or something else, not related to weather they run 32 or 64-bit.
2) Most of the results I found were caused by something else completely. Like this. Not to spoil the ending for someone, but it showed up at the top of the suggested search, and had nothing to do with the 64-bit OS.
My point is I have a 32 bit os..and I can run crisis turned up all the way,with aa 32x.Why the hell do I want 64?I have seen the problems first hand and its not worth it yet in my opinion.But like I said..to each their own.All I know is I have to research almost every game my wife installs because it wont install,or ctd or what ever.And I never have a problem.The guy wants to run eve..he needs no 64 bit os.Again..thats my opinion.
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Lykouleon
Trust Doesn't Rust
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Posted - 2010.10.11 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11 My wife has windows 7 64 and has nothing but problems installing anything,while Im already gaming.
Either you and/or your wife have the IQ of a goldfish, or you just bought a really crappy computer.
Honestly not trolling. I've been using Win7 x64 since RC1, and I've had no problems running any game I've installed on it.
As well, a good deal of developers are embracing the 64-bit architecture now, specifically releasing for the platform in conjuncture with their 32-bit versions. Hell, even the Linux kernel I run on my v-box is 64-bit.
32-bit is being phased out, go 64.
Quote: Lord Makk > Be warned, Lykouleon is akin to the love-child of a Goon and a Maru'Kage, with just a touch of Butter Dog for bitterness
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.10.11 17:39:00 -
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Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 17:45:56 Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 17:43:36
Originally by: Lykouleon
Originally by: HeIIfire11 My wife has windows 7 64 and has nothing but problems installing anything,while Im already gaming.
Either you and/or your wife have the IQ of a goldfish, or you just bought a really crappy computer.
Honestly not trolling. I've been using Win7 x64 since RC1, and I've had no problems running any game I've installed on it.
As well, a good deal of developers are embracing the 64-bit architecture now, specifically releasing for the platform in conjuncture with their 32-bit versions. Hell, even the Linux kernel I run on my v-box is 64-bit.
32-bit is being phased out, go 64.
Dont waste your last few pathetic brain cells trying to troll me..I am immune to your stupidity and do not care about your opinion.
I gave the op mine,what he does with it is his own thing.
32 bit was supposed to be "phased out" long ago btw.Im still waiting.And as long as I can run crisis at full quality,I see no need for more.I buy a computer every 5 years and give away my old one..32 wont be phased out in that time and I doubt a game will come out needing more than crisis in that time.
Rest of you trolls can suck my thorax..im done here
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alittlebirdy
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Posted - 2010.10.11 17:40:00 -
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64 Hell is an idiot he has no idea how many programs (even IE) still run 32bit in 64 windows, likly is too stupid to run it as admin or in compatabilty mode 8-) or is trying to play games from the DOS era. I played games dated 1999 in win 7... hmmm...
64, and more than 4 gigs of ram else you are as dumb as hell. (running 8 myself works nice for more than one eve client / game)
Also I have 16 processes running in 32bit... shocking my computer has not crashed yet... lolz...
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Muad 'dib
Caldari Payable on Death
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Posted - 2010.10.11 17:43:00 -
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My Pc came in about 8 or 9 bits, then i put it togther and now its just one bit.
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Forum Guy
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Posted - 2010.10.11 17:49:00 -
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If you want to use more than 3Gb of ram then you have no option but to use 64 bit. But that aside use 64 bit anyway.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.10.11 17:51:00 -
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I have windows 7 64bit. I have installed hundreds of programs and dozens of games. I have never had a problem installing anything, that was actually the fault of the 64bit Operating System. People blaming the OS for installation issues need to get a clue, googling looking for problems will just find people blaming the OS because of their own ineptitude.
The only time installing games will not work under a 64bit OS is if the program/game uses 16bit code (for reference, that's as old as the Sega Megadrive) Since 64bit no longer supports that architecture.
TL:DR I don't need to google squat because i rely on personal experience not third party experience. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
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Stick Cult
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Posted - 2010.10.11 18:02:00 -
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It's been proven before that Hell is just an idiot.
Anywho, I have been running a 64 bit OS for years, since about the Windows 7 RC1. Never had any problems relating to the fact that it was 64 bit. (one game wouldn't run because of my graphics card being too new... lol) 32 bit OS will lock you at 3 gigs of RAM, which is the bare minimum these days. Eve doesn't benefit directly from 64 bit (CCP doesn't use 64 bit things in the code), but it runs just fine in a 64 bit OS (possibly better).
Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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Spurty
Caldari D00M. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2010.10.11 18:04:00 -
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check your hard drive for files larger than 4 gigs. got many? possibly you don't, but I have lots.
32 bit os chokes on them.
64 bit is already. old hat.
128 bit windows is in the pipe line
Yelp!
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Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.10.11 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11 and you want to know it all mr.under a rock.My wife has windows 7 64 and has nothing but problems installing anything,while Im already gaming. To each their own.
Well, she must be pretty unlucky, because I've had my new machine for a month and a half already, I put Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit on it, and I have yet to find a single piece of software I tried to use that would NOT work on it without even bothering to troubleshoot anything. Well, that, or I am extremely lucky.
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Stick Cult
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Posted - 2010.10.11 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Spurty 128 bit windows is in the pipe line
I call shenanigans.
Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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King Pleasure
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Posted - 2010.10.11 18:09:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11 Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 17:45:56 Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 17:43:36
Dont waste your last few pathetic brain cells trying to troll me..I am immune to your stupidity and do not care about your opinion.
I gave the op mine,what he does with it is his own thing.
32 bit was supposed to be "phased out" long ago btw.Im still waiting.And as long as I can run crisis at full quality,I see no need for more.I buy a computer every 5 years and give away my old one..32 wont be phased out in that time and I doubt a game will come out needing more than crisis in that time.
Rest of you trolls can suck my thorax..im done here
Punctuation is normally followed by a space, then the next word. Helpful hint.
And 64.
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Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
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Posted - 2010.10.11 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia We've come to another Win98 vs. WinNT break: any software (game or otherwise) that has issues running under 64bit is incompetently programmed and needs to be given a swift metal bolt to the skull to cut its suffering short.
Yeah... just one problem: device drivers often written in pure C or even ASM, and no less often rely on default record alignment. There's nothing wrong with it as long as it's compiled on the intended target platform, but moving to the new platform instantly freak out the data structures and they need to be all revised, as well as their treatment.
Quote: Also, said incompetent programmers need to be told that they are incompetent, and get their skills up to par or get out of the business.
Yeah-yeah. How many programs you've written by yourself? Real programs, I mean. Do you even know how they work, at least?
Quote: Run 64 bit. If you come across something that is giving you problems, that's a good sign that you shouldn't be using it to begin with.
"It", however, means "64bit", yes? -- Thanks CCP for cu |
HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.10.11 18:16:00 -
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Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 18:23:56
Originally by: Stick Cult It's been proven before that Hell is just an idiot.
Not the stick figure guy again
No..but it has been proven that you are a troll who sticks his nose in every post,as well as his stupid opinions and hangs in the forum 24-7.Get a life.
As far as 32/64bit os..the op asked a question and I answered it.Your brain dead opinion isnt the only one that counts.Give your opinion if you want..but dont try to degrade anyone to your level.All mighty l337 gamer and all knowing forum god.Can I add you to my buddy..*cough*gank *cough* list so I can say I know someone as smart as you?I always wanted to know someone who beat life and knows it all.Give me a ****ing break.
Let me stop before I bust a lung laughing.
Originally by: King Pleasure Punctuation is normally followed by a space, then the next word. Helpful hint.
Oh,Im sorry Mr.Pleasure but I wasnt aware that this was grammar school or that I had anything to prove here.Wouldnt want anyone in this highly intelectual forum to think bad of me
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Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2010.10.11 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: Tonto Auri
Quote: Run 64 bit. If you come across something that is giving you problems, that's a good sign that you shouldn't be using it to begin with.
"It", however, means "64bit", yes?
"It" reffers to the program that doesnt work on 64bit OS i think.
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Spurty
Caldari D00M. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2010.10.11 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: Stick Cult
Originally by: Spurty 128 bit windows is in the pipe line
I call shenanigans.
windows 8 kernel may support it in some emulation sort of mode, windows 9 should support it native if chip manufacturers get it working by then.
of course its coming and its not unreasonable after 64bit CPUs have been around for decades.
Yelp!
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Ascendic
Brotherhood of Suicidal Priests The Makhai
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Posted - 2010.10.11 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11 Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 17:18:51
Originally by: Rudolph Heimlich Edited by: Rudolph Heimlich on 11/10/2010 17:14:24 Unless you are aware of any reasons for you personally not to use 64-bit, it is what you should go for. Chances are you'll do just fine with 32-bit, as very few programs for non-power users requires >4GB RAM to be allocated at any one time - eve included. But 64-bit is the future. And I am also assuming you run Windows, which has an inbuilt emulator that works well for most things that do not support 64-bit yet.
Originally by: HeIIfire11
and you want to know it all mr.under a rock.My wife has windows 7 64 and has nothing but problems installing anything,while Im already gaming.To each their own.
Rarely has the OS been the problem when a woman encounters a computer-related problem.
To be serious... I use 64-bit on all my computers and I have not had any problems installing any software or game that is caused by me using 64-bit. It has been quite a while since I've heard a lot of complaints from other people running 64-bit, so I am guessing your problem lies with outdated software or hardware instead, tbh.
By the time 64 is fully used youll be getting a new computer..
Googl it damn it,copy and past this"problems installing games on windows 7 64bit" do it now beavis!!
64 bit works but installing stuff is always a mission.google it and you will see the tears.And my 32 rocks,with now problem playing anything turned all up.For eve..good enough anyday..with all settings on high assuming you have the right hardware.
You are an idiot. Refrain from posting further.
The ONLY problems I have ever had with a 64-bit os was when Vista was FRIST released. And that was due to companies being lazy and not posting compatible drivers etc. A year later and everything worked just fine. Since Windows 7 release there has been 0 problems. 99% of the problems are what people refer to as PEBKAC. Problem exists between keyboard and chair.
Now do me a favour and shut the f*ck up spouting your useless garbage around here. You could google and find people crying trying to install a sprinkler in their yard for christs sakes.
tl;dr: You are a god damn tool.
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar CareBears on Fire The Obsidian Legion
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Posted - 2010.10.11 18:23:00 -
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I am going to toss this out here just so I can watch people start foaming at the mouth. Because it amuses me.
I run a 64-bit operating system - Vista 64 - never had any problems with it except that it didn't seem to like the obscure C compiler my university tried to push on us.
When I am ready to buy a new PC (this one is about 3 years old), I will move up to Windows 7 64 bit (or whatever flavor of Windows is on the market in 64 bit) because I really like having 6 gigs of Ram floating around.
The bulk of the problems you will run into trying to upgrade will be with older hardware and drivers and the odd software package that is 32 bit only (and won't run under the compatibility mode for whatever reason - see my comment about that C compiler). In the last three years that's the only piece of software I have tried to use that wouldn't run (and I have never seen one fail to install - even that crappy compiler installed, it just wouldn't run).
As with any update of an OS, prepare for the worst.
1. Find all the drivers for you hardware FOR THE NEW OS. Never expect the old ones to work. 2. Make sure you check your hardware for compatibility and be prepared to replace those that aren't compatible. Sometimes you can squeak by, sometimes you can't. But if it says NOT COMPATIBLE don't be surprised when it doesn't work. --Vel
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.10.11 18:27:00 -
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Originally by: Tonto Auri There's nothing wrong with it as long as it's compiled on the intended target platform,
Like I said: if it has issues, it's incompetently programmed.
Quote: Yeah-yeah. How many programs you've written by yourself? Real programs, I mean. Do you even know how they work, at least?
A fair bunch. But they were HIRO-environment control systems, so maybe I'm being harsh on this simplistic desktop stuff.
Quote: "It", however, means "64bit", yes?
Of course not. The referent is rather obvious. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.10.11 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: Ascendic The ONLY problems I have ever had...
I I I and I..stfu its not all about you.You can refrain from posting too if all your worried about is my comment.
You mad bro?
Try to answer the op instead of getting heated you muppet.
Troll on ..this is really not worth my time
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brutoid
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.10.11 18:33:00 -
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64-bit.
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Illwill Bill
Svea Rike Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.10.11 18:33:00 -
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I have been running Windows 7 x64 since launch, and really haven't had any problems with recent games. The Homeworld games were a bit tricky, but are now running as well.
There are a lot of older ('95-'98) software using 16-bit installers, and these will not work, as the x64 editions of Windows lack a 16-bit execution environment.
Originally by: CCP Navigator Great story but you probably want this in CAOD so feel free to post there with your main.
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Ascendic
Brotherhood of Suicidal Priests The Makhai
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Posted - 2010.10.11 18:37:00 -
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Edited by: Ascendic on 11/10/2010 18:39:39
Originally by: HeIIfire11
Originally by: Ascendic The ONLY problems I have ever had...
I I I and I..stfu its not all about you.You can refrain from posting too if all your worried about is my comment.
You mad bro?
Try to answer the op instead of getting heated you muppet.
Troll on ..this is really not worth my time
Oh really? Then why do you keep posting about your stupid wife? Its not about you fail troll. It merely proves how fu*king useless and ret arded you and your wife are and should not be using the computer in the first place. The only muppet I see here is you go back to getting someones hand shoved up your ass instead of talking out of it
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.10.11 18:41:00 -
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Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 18:44:30
Originally by: Ascendic Edited by: Ascendic on 11/10/2010 18:39:39
Originally by: HeIIfire11
Originally by: Ascendic The ONLY problems I have ever had...
I I I and I..stfu its not all about you.You can refrain from posting too if all your worried about is my comment.
You mad bro?
Try to answer the op instead of getting heated you muppet.
Troll on ..this is really not worth my time
Oh really? Then why do you keep posting about your stupid wife? Its not about you fail troll. It merely proves how fu*king useless and ret arded you and your wife are and should not be using the computer in the first place. The only muppet I see here is you go back to getting someones hand shoved up your ass instead of talking out of it
You still here *****ing? Yeah he mad
Edit:But you did surprise me I admit.I was expecting a "go back to wow" post from your kind.Good job on that oneMight be hope for you yet.
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Illwill Bill
Svea Rike Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.10.11 18:42:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Spurty
128-bit Windows 8-kernel
Basically, what M$ are doing is to future-proof their architecture. I doubt we will see 128-bit consumer CPU's the next decade.
GPU's on the other hand...
Originally by: CCP Navigator Great story but you probably want this in CAOD so feel free to post there with your main.
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Ascendic
Brotherhood of Suicidal Priests The Makhai
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Posted - 2010.10.11 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11 Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 18:44:30
Originally by: Ascendic Edited by: Ascendic on 11/10/2010 18:39:39
Originally by: HeIIfire11
Originally by: Ascendic The ONLY problems I have ever had...
I I I and I..stfu its not all about you.You can refrain from posting too if all your worried about is my comment.
You mad bro?
Try to answer the op instead of getting heated you muppet.
Troll on ..this is really not worth my time
Oh really? Then why do you keep posting about your stupid wife? Its not about you fail troll. It merely proves how fu*king useless and ret arded you and your wife are and should not be using the computer in the first place. The only muppet I see here is you go back to getting someones hand shoved up your ass instead of talking out of it
You still here *****ing? Yeah he mad
Edit:But you did surprise me I admit.I was expecting a "go back to wow" post from your kind.Good job on that oneMight be hope for you yet.
Why are you still here I thought it wasnt worth your time?
I think its more like....
Umad?
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CommanderShepard1
Gallente Kaleidascopic Military Association Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2010.10.11 18:46:00 -
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Edited by: CommanderShepard1 on 11/10/2010 18:47:00 64 bit is definitely a better choice. (at least to me it is)
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar CareBears on Fire The Obsidian Legion
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Posted - 2010.10.11 18:47:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia Of course not. The referent is rather obvious.
I have never heard anyone actually use the word referent before, let alone use it correctly.
Hooray for educated people. --Vel
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Stick Cult
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Posted - 2010.10.11 18:47:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11
Originally by: Ascendic The ONLY problems I have ever had...
I I I and I..stfu its not all about you.
And yet the only thing you've been doing in this thread is claiming "NO YOU'RE ALL WRONG, I'M RIGHT!"
Hypocrite, much?
Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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Llewelyn Fawr
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Posted - 2010.10.11 18:50:00 -
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Is it possible to install both 32 and 64 bit version on different partitions as a dual-boot set-up?
If you're buying the retail version of the Windows 7 you'll get both versions on the disk.
You could then compare & contrast & use each for whatever function works best on that version...
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Titus Phook
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.10.11 18:53:00 -
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64 bit is definitely the way to go, been running win 7 64 bit since the release candidate with absolutely no problems with installing any software, vista 64 bit however sucked balls which is why I junked it --------------------------------------------- Proudly posting with my Alt since 2009 |
Forum Guy
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Posted - 2010.10.11 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: Makhar I'm upgrading PCs. The primary role of my PC is to run EVE as I usually work from my laptop. So.... although both are supported, which is better for a machine running EVE? A 64-bit OS or a 32-bit OS?
A few years back got a system when Vista was fairly new, went in to the shop thinking 64-bit, came away with a 32-bit OS (damn saleman, confused me with the playing old games trick, just ignore all that bs). The system had 4Gb of RAM too but not all was being used by the OS that's how I initally found out.
Anyway Vista 32-bit was crap from the start, and within a couple of weeks was regretting buying it with the 32-bit OS. But kept it until Win 7 came out.
Reformatted the hard-drive threw Vista in the bin and installed Win 7 64-bit and not had any problem since.
A lot of the old games look crap anyway as a lot of them don't support new resolutions.
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Thaylon Sen
Tetra-Pac
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Posted - 2010.10.11 19:06:00 -
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Running Win7 64bit here, never had a problem, and EVE gained 20fps when i switched over from 32bit version.
Anyone telling you any different is living in the past, and clueless.
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.10.11 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Ascendic Why are you still here I thought it wasnt worth your time?
I think its more like....
Umad?
Yes Im really mad because some nobody is talking smak in the eve forumNo..but I admit sometimes I cant resist the temptation of making some muppet tear up his keyboard
Originally by: Stick Cult
And yet the only thing you've been doing in this thread is claiming "NO YOU'RE ALL WRONG, I'M RIGHT!"
Hypocrite, much?
I know your not the sharpest tool in the shed so Ill fill you in on what Ive been doin in this thread.
I stated my "opinion".I explained why thats my opinion,and that he should google it and see for himself.
Above all I stayed on topic and didnt say anyone was wrong.And I trolled a few wannabe trolls,which is always fun.And..I added you to my "buddy" list for being so damn cool.Maybe my main will be bored enough to come play with you some day
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.10.11 19:08:00 -
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àfunnily enough, the 4GB limit in 32-bit Windows is actually a licensing issue more than anything else û you can make anything from XP and onward to make use of more. It's just not officially supported for a number of (occasionally even good) reasons. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Snowmann
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Posted - 2010.10.11 19:08:00 -
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I've been running 64 bit since Win7 RC with very few issues.
The only serious issue I've seen is with some older software around 8-10 yrs old, but once I gave if full admin rights while running in compatibility mode it starting working fine.
The more older software you have the more potential issues you will have. In that case you could always try out the Windows XP virtual machine that can be added to windows 7 for free; the last time I checked anyways.
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Illwill Bill
Svea Rike Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.10.11 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia àfunnily enough, the 4GB limit in 32-bit Windows is actually a licensing issue more than anything else û you can make anything from XP and onward to make use of more. It's just not officially supported for a number of (occasionally even good) reasons.
PAE is buggy and most video card drivers throw up on it.
Originally by: CCP Navigator Great story but you probably want this in CAOD so feel free to post there with your main.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.10.11 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Illwill Bill PAE is buggy and most video card drivers throw up on it.
àoccasionally even good reasons. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Illwill Bill
Svea Rike Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.10.11 19:21:00 -
[59]
I think we should all start using old-school bank-switching.
Also, all applications not written in 6502 assebly should be banned.
Originally by: CCP Navigator Great story but you probably want this in CAOD so feel free to post there with your main.
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Lykouleon
Trust Doesn't Rust
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Posted - 2010.10.11 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11 this is really not worth my time
and yet...you keep posting
Are you the type of person that still uses Internet Explorer and thinks Java is "the leading and most useful coding language around"?
Quote: Lord Makk > Be warned, Lykouleon is akin to the love-child of a Goon and a Maru'Kage, with just a touch of Butter Dog for bitterness
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Vak'ran
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Posted - 2010.10.11 19:45:00 -
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Whole thing is real simple, as some other posters have already pointed out, for the home user, it mostly depends on how much RAM you wish to address. 32bit systems are limited. With the emphasis on RAM use by all kinds of software on the rise, especially in games, it is advisable to go 64bit. If you do alot of things at once (multiple EVE accounts?), then there is another reason to have a lot of RAM. If you are building a new PC, you will want to have 4+ GB of RAM, and the possibility to expand that later on, both for current software and futureproofing. 32bit software cannot address that much memory.
As for 64bit versions being more sensitive to 'computer trouble' - yes, when you are going for a new architecture you might run into problems using old software or hardware. Using a lot of old stuff is the one reason to consider a 32bit system at this time, especially old hardware, as modern drivers can be a problem.
To close, pay little attention to those citing their own computer woes as reasons to do the one or the other. People's personal experience is usually a very bad thing to base these choices on. If you do, however, then I can share with you that I am having ZERO problems using windows 7 64bit since the beta release.
Vak'Ran is your local official non-dedicated part-time advocate of reading comprehension and proliferation of intelligence on the EVE Online Forum |
HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.10.11 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: Lykouleon
Originally by: HeIIfire11 this is really not worth my time
and yet...you keep posting
Are you the type of person that still uses Internet Explorer and thinks Java is "the leading and most useful coding language around"?
Because I post when I want,where I want and what I want.Just because I say Im done with one troll doesnt mean I wont take time for another.
As far as what I use..is your life so lame that you care what I use?Is it on topic?But..but..no.
gtfo..your not even fun to troll.
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Elysarian
Minmatar Elysarian Corp
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Posted - 2010.10.11 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11
Originally by: Ascendic Why are you still here I thought it wasnt worth your time?
I think its more like....
Umad?
Yes Im really mad because some nobody is talking smak in the eve forumNo..but I admit sometimes I cant resist the temptation of making some muppet tear up his keyboard
Originally by: Stick Cult
And yet the only thing you've been doing in this thread is claiming "NO YOU'RE ALL WRONG, I'M RIGHT!"
Hypocrite, much?
I know your not the sharpest tool in the shed so Ill fill you in on what Ive been doin in this thread.
I stated my "opinion".I explained why thats my opinion,and that he should google it and see for himself.
Above all I stayed on topic and didnt say anyone was wrong.And I trolled a few wannabe trolls,which is always fun.And..I added you to my "buddy" list for being so damn cool.Maybe my main will be bored enough to come play with you some day
I googled what you told the other guy to google...
Got a real good laugh out of it as there were two results: one for this thread on the forum and one for the eve-searchversion - and for the record I'm running Win7 x64, my fiancee is running Vista x64 and since Vista SP1 we've had exactly zero issues with compatibility (in fact some ancient games that refused to talk to XP work under Win7/Vista)
Back on topic: It's rare to see a new PC with less than 3GB of memory preinstalled these days - I would personally recommend going for the 64-bit option myself especially if you're getting 4 or more Gigabytes in there and even more especially if you plan on running dual eve clients.
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CyberGh0st
Minmatar Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.10.11 20:07:00 -
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Edited by: CyberGh0st on 11/10/2010 20:08:56
It is pretty clear you have to go 64bit.
Software compatibility is a non-issue, only drivers and software that talks directly to your hardware ( and thus need some sort of driver software ), may give problems.
However, if you buy a new computer that can not be a problem. If you want to be sure, check if you have any peripherals ( printer, scanner, etc ) that need a driver and check if there are 64bit win7 ( or vista 64bit will work too ) drivers.
Software that talks directly to your hardware is generally for things like overclocking, and there are alternatives for everything.
And yes, 16 bit windows applications are no longer supported, but if you find any of those, you can find a vmware and install a virtual machine or something. For DOSgames, you have dosbox.
Going for a 32bit version on a new gaming computer is not a good idea because : - You will want a good VGA card, probably with no less than 1GB video RAM. - You will want 4GB RAM at least. Running a 32 bit OS will leave you with only 2,75GB RAM in the above scenario.
Running 1 EVE client won't be a problem, running 2 EVE clients with cache and security software on Win7 will be on the limit. Alt-tabbing then between the EVE clients and some internet browsers will make you hit the limit and make it slow. And we are not talking about 3 clients yet.
People still claiming that a gaming rig on a 32 bit system has any merit is clueless.
If you buy a new gaming system now, there is only 1 platform : Windows 7 64bit.
http://www.mmodata.net Favorite MMO's : DAoC Pre-TOA-NF / SWG Pre-CU-NGE |
alittlebirdy
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Posted - 2010.10.11 20:07:00 -
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OMGZ the 32bit programs are taking over! help meh! My computer is super unstable because of all the 32bit not workingness going on.
And yes fear meh you all now know my windows account name Gota love that 0% cpu useage too rofl.
Btw dumb troll no one cares about your opinion, the OP I am pretty sure wants FACT, the FACT is 64bit will give the best performace as it allowed over 4 gigs of memory (not ram MEMORY this 4 gigs includes all system memory (ram and others) + GPU yes GPU memory.)
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Sky Orcagna
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Posted - 2010.10.11 20:14:00 -
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Edited by: Sky Orcagna on 11/10/2010 20:14:49 64-bit all the way. EVE is great with 12GB RAM, multiple monitors, and a pair of Geforce GTX 480s. Run one client at max settings on each monitor.
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.10.11 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: alittlebirdy OMGZ the 32bit programs are taking over! help meh! My computer is super unstable because of all the 32bit not workingness going on.
And yes fear meh you all now know my windows account name Gota love that 0% cpu useage too rofl.
Btw dumb troll no one cares about your opinion, the OP I am pretty sure wants FACT, the FACT is 64bit will give the best performace as it allowed over 4 gigs of memory (not ram MEMORY this 4 gigs includes all system memory (ram and others) + GPU yes GPU memory.)
I dont need anyone to care for my opinion..I could care less about yours.Just as much as I care for your link that I would never bother to click.You mad too?
So act like a little birdy and fly away to a place where someone cares you exist.And pack a lunch because it will be a long flight
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Tal'sung
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Posted - 2010.10.11 20:18:00 -
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Edited by: Tal''sung on 11/10/2010 20:24:06 32Bit is a dead horse, Windows 8 has an almost 100% chance of being 64 bit only as Microsoft is trying to phase it out.
Most power users now use 64bit as there's really no reason not to unless you're using some crap old programs made for Windows 98 -- on top of this, popular high end motherboards with Intel's X58 chipsets have tri-channel memory and most people opt for at least 6GB of ram for it, 32Bit wouldn't be able to make use of all of it.
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Illwill Bill
Svea Rike Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.10.11 20:24:00 -
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Edited by: Illwill Bill on 11/10/2010 20:26:14 Actually, well-written applications for NT 3.1 or Windows 95 and up should run fine on Windows 7 x64.
It's the poorly written, and the 16-bit applications that causes headaches.
Originally by: CCP Navigator Great story but you probably want this in CAOD so feel free to post there with your main.
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alittlebirdy
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Posted - 2010.10.11 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11 Stupid stuff said by a stupid troll
Yar I'm mad lolz
You know "google" is not the answer to everything if people did not ask **** google would have nothing on it lol, and the forum is not fill with only you, we have smart people here as well.
No one wants your opinion so go have it, in a dark room, all alone.
Yep 3 gigs more than enough, guess you would run 2x1 and um 2x512 sicks eh? I need to see if they even make ddr2 512's pretty much know they aint making ddr3 512's. If not how else would you get 3 gigs run 4 and lose 25%? Yet have it be a better plan? lolz.
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Stick Cult
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Posted - 2010.10.11 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: alittlebirdy Yep 3 gigs more than enough, guess you would run 2x1 and um 2x512 sicks eh? I need to see if they even make ddr2 512's pretty much know they aint making ddr3 512's. If not how else would you get 3 gigs run 4 and lose 25%? Yet have it be a better plan? lolz.
Or you can be poor/cheap like me and run DDR2.... The irony is that it's more expensive now than DDR3...
Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.10.11 20:35:00 -
[72]
Originally by: alittlebirdy
Originally by: HeIIfire11 Stupid stuff said by a stupid troll
Yar I'm mad lolz
You know "google" is not the answer to everything if people did not ask **** google would have nothing on it lol, and the forum is not fill with only you, we have smart people here as well.
No one wants your opinion so go have it, in a dark room, all alone.
Yep 3 gigs more than enough, guess you would run 2x1 and um 2x512 sicks eh? I need to see if they even make ddr2 512's pretty much know they aint making ddr3 512's. If not how else would you get 3 gigs run 4 and lose 25%? Yet have it be a better plan? lolz.
Google is a search engine,that leads to sites,that contain the answers to everything.The rest of that crap someone needs to translate.All I see that makes sense is 3 gig.And I was talking about the people saying that 32bit os doesnt support more.Which doesnt matter because eve doesnt need more.
Another thing..learn how to write,I dont try to write correctly here either,but your grammar is bad.Mr.pleasure might wanna help you out though.
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Stick Cult
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Posted - 2010.10.11 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11
Originally by: alittlebirdy
Originally by: HeIIfire11 Stupid stuff said by a stupid troll
Yar I'm mad lolz
You know "google" is not the answer to everything if people did not ask **** google would have nothing on it lol, and the forum is not fill with only you, we have smart people here as well.
No one wants your opinion so go have it, in a dark room, all alone.
Yep 3 gigs more than enough, guess you would run 2x1 and um 2x512 sicks eh? I need to see if they even make ddr2 512's pretty much know they aint making ddr3 512's. If not how else would you get 3 gigs run 4 and lose 25%? Yet have it be a better plan? lolz.
Google is a search engine,that leads to sites,that contain the answers to everything.The rest of that crap someone needs to translate.All I see that makes sense is 3 gig.And I was talking about the people saying that 32bit os doesnt support more.Which doesnt matter because eve doesnt need more.
Another thing..learn how to write,I dont try to write correctly here either,but your grammar is bad.Mr.pleasure might wanna help you out though.
I understood it all... he writes better than you do.
Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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CyberGh0st
Minmatar Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.10.11 20:47:00 -
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Edited by: CyberGh0st on 11/10/2010 20:51:17
Originally by: HeIIfire11
Originally by: alittlebirdy
Originally by: HeIIfire11 Stupid stuff said by a stupid troll
Yar I'm mad lolz
You know "google" is not the answer to everything if people did not ask **** google would have nothing on it lol, and the forum is not fill with only you, we have smart people here as well.
No one wants your opinion so go have it, in a dark room, all alone.
Yep 3 gigs more than enough, guess you would run 2x1 and um 2x512 sicks eh? I need to see if they even make ddr2 512's pretty much know they aint making ddr3 512's. If not how else would you get 3 gigs run 4 and lose 25%? Yet have it be a better plan? lolz.
Google is a search engine,that leads to sites,that contain the answers to everything.The rest of that crap someone needs to translate.All I see that makes sense is 3 gig.And I was talking about the people saying that 32bit os doesnt support more.Which doesnt matter because eve doesnt need more.
Another thing..learn how to write,I dont try to write correctly here either,but your grammar is bad.Mr.pleasure might wanna help you out though.
It is not a clear case of a 3GB limit, if you have a 1GB video card ( standard nowadays in an average gaming computer ) then you have only 2,75GB RAM left.
If you run 2 video cards with 1GB in SLI, then you have only 1,75GB of RAM left.
And there are also some players that like to run multiple accounts of EVE on 1 computer, in that case a 64bit system is also warranted. EVE, as well as 99% of all other 32 bit games run fine out of the box on a 64bit system, so why limit yourself when buying a new computer?
You will encounter more issues when upgrading from XP to Win7 than when upgrading from 32bit to 64bit ( in regards to game compatibility ).
To conclude, every game I tried runs fine on Win7 64bit, and I go waay back to the beginning of IBM PC history ( I run Dosgames on Dosbox ofc, but that is a given, if you want to run Dosgames on a 32bit system you also need Dosbox ).
http://www.mmodata.net Favorite MMO's : DAoC Pre-TOA-NF / SWG Pre-CU-NGE |
HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.10.11 20:50:00 -
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Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 20:56:08
Originally by: Stick Cult I understood it all... he writes better than you do.
What you obviously dont understand is sarcasm.And Im sure you understand him just fine,you are just as dumb.Assuming hes not an alt of yours,which could very well be the case
Edit:And its been fun but I really have to go now.It gets lame when you start agreeing with people and shooting one liners out there thinking I will continue to take the time and respond.I only respond to good trolls and you fail at that as well.
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CyberGh0st
Minmatar Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.10.11 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11
Originally by: Stick Cult I understood it all... he writes better than you do.
What you obviously dont understand is sarcasm.And Im sure you understand him just fine,you are just as dumb.Assuming hes not an alt of yours,which could very well be the case
Well at least they have some knowledge about computer gaming, which obviously you don't.
http://www.mmodata.net Favorite MMO's : DAoC Pre-TOA-NF / SWG Pre-CU-NGE |
HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.10.11 20:56:00 -
[77]
Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 21:05:14 Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 21:04:19
Originally by: CyberGh0st Well at least they have some knowledge about computer gaming, which obviously you don't.
Now that was a good attempt,you want a cookie?
Edit:guess not.
Ill tell you another thing thats obvious.My **** is bigger than yours.If it wasnt,you wouldnt be sitting behind a computer all day to have said "knowledge".Ill leave you with that.But dont worry..it isnt the size that counts
Edit2:/me gives stick cult a half a cookie!
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Stick Cult
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Posted - 2010.10.11 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11
Originally by: CyberGh0st Well at least they have some knowledge about computer gaming, which obviously you don't.
Now that was a good attempt,you want a cookie?
Can I have a cookie? I love cookies!
Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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Rasquel
Terminal Impact Dara Cothrom
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Posted - 2010.10.11 21:13:00 -
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Edited by: Rasquel on 11/10/2010 21:15:30 Edited by: Rasquel on 11/10/2010 21:15:16 Edited by: Rasquel on 11/10/2010 21:14:18
Originally by: HeIIfire11 Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 17:09:47
Originally by: Cathleia
Originally by: HeIIfire11 Id say 32 for most games.64 isnt really supported by a lot of games or programs.People will tell you other wise im sure.Just google problems installing games on windows 7 64bit.
youll see what I mean.
Yes, I see what you mean. I see you have been living under a rock.
Get 64bit, there is no reason (for the normal guy) anymore to get a 32bit OS today.
and you want to know it all mr.under a rock.My wife has windows 7 64 and has nothing but problems installing anything,while Im already gaming.To each their own.
just google it "problems installing games on windows 7 64bit"
I'm going to just leave this here.
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=problems+installing+games+on+windows+7+64bit&word2=problems+installing+games+on+windows+7+32bit
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Titus Phook
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.10.11 21:17:00 -
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Edited by: Titus Phook on 11/10/2010 21:18:49 wow, someone sure has a bee in their bonnet. Personally if I was HeIIwhateverhisnameis I would quit while I was ahead instead of reinforcing peoples opinion that I was an arrogant, highly opinionated bellend with absolutely no idea about the subject matter, oops too late
on topic the 64 bit version costs the same, makes better use of hardware, has no memory limit & is more "future proof", may as well get the most bang for buck and get 64 bit. If you don't like it the product key will work with a 32 bit version of the os (windows product keys are not 32/64 bit specific but version specific ie ultimate key only works for ultimate), get the 64 bit and if you have to downgrade to 32 bit its a pretty painless and cost free exercise, reformat, reinstall use your existing key from the windows COA. Preinstalled machines generally come with 4gb of RAM but only a 32 bit os .. and a crappy onboard gfx card that struggles with anything more complex than minesweeper. --------------------------------------------- Proudly posting with my Alt since 2009 |
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CyberGh0st
Minmatar Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.10.11 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11 Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 21:05:14 Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 21:04:19
Originally by: CyberGh0st Well at least they have some knowledge about computer gaming, which obviously you don't.
Now that was a good attempt,you want a cookie?
Edit:guess not.
Ill tell you another thing thats obvious.My **** is bigger than yours.If it wasnt,you wouldnt be sitting behind a computer all day to have said "knowledge".Ill leave you with that.But dont worry..it isnt the size that counts
Edit2:/me gives stick cult a half a cookie!
Did I hurt your feelings? I am sorry if I did
http://www.mmodata.net Favorite MMO's : DAoC Pre-TOA-NF / SWG Pre-CU-NGE |
Lost Greybeard
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Posted - 2010.10.11 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11 Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 17:01:01 Id say 32 for most games.64 isnt really supported by a lot of games or programs.People will tell you other wise im sure.Just google problems installing games on windows 7 64bit.
youll see what I mean.
lol and before I finish posting,there they go.
google "problems installing games on windows 7 64bit" and see for yourself
64-bit is good for people that don't think "pong" is a hot new game, though. ---
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alittlebirdy
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Posted - 2010.10.11 21:42:00 -
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So lol that a simple question is hitting 4 pages, O ya to toss in, going from 2gigs to 8... OMG even with one eve accounton (I have 3) it is so nice having that extra memory, no more hitting up the harddrive for extra memory, and hell if you leave eve open long enough, it can ues 2 gigs no prob + who does not have other stuff running too. It is pretty epic when you can run eve, eve, world of tanks, minecraft, + vent server, MC server, and webserver (just for hosting files to share to myself / friends) with no issues...
I am using 3 gigs right now with just eve open and some IE's a vent server, and my normal OS stuff... E-mail...
But ya why would you buy super old tech? Might as well get ME or 98 then... I mean for cheap (150$) 8 gigs of name brand memory (only ddr 1333 but still) and vid cards, are at LEAST 1gig for anything worth buying... just with a vid card you are below 3gigs of memory windows 32 and address...
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Zagdul
Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.10.12 00:05:00 -
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Edited by: Zagdul on 12/10/2010 00:12:04
Confirming Hell is an idiot.
I've been using 64bit since WinXP 64 was released and WOW64 was completely necessary to emulate 32bit in a 64bit environment.
Windows 7 64bit is fully backwards compatible and if you're buying new hardware, most manufacturers these days produce 64bit native drivers. This is one of those made up statistics, but I think it's safe to say for common hardware, motherboard/graphics/sound, 90% of the manufacturers are producing Windows 7 64bit drivers.
I would steer away from Creative drivers though, Creative sucks with producing a quality driver and always has. It's rarely a Windows issue if you have Creative products in your computer.
EDIT: Also, any IT pro will tell you a minimum of 2gb of RAM is necessary to run Windows 7 in it's glory. If you are running games that are RAM intensive, you'll need an additional 2gb counting any 32bit OS out of the picture.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa366778%28VS.85%29.aspx
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Stick Cult
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Posted - 2010.10.12 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: Zagdul This is one of those made up statistics, but I think it's safe to say for common hardware, motherboard/graphics/sound, 90% of the manufacturers are producing Windows 7 64bit drivers.
At risk of bumping this thread, I think the problem is with people who have ~old~ hardware (printer, scanner, etc) that isn't supported anymore, and doesn't have 64 bit drivers. Almost all new hardware will have 64 bit drivers, of course.
Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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Zagdul
Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.10.12 00:10:00 -
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Edited by: Zagdul on 12/10/2010 00:11:29
Originally by: Stick Cult
Originally by: Zagdul This is one of those made up statistics, but I think it's safe to say for common hardware, motherboard/graphics/sound, 90% of the manufacturers are producing Windows 7 64bit drivers.
At risk of bumping this thread, I think the problem is with people who have ~old~ hardware (printer, scanner, etc) that isn't supported anymore, and doesn't have 64 bit drivers. Almost all new hardware will have 64 bit drivers, of course.
Yeah, but for the most part, the 32 bit driver will emulate fine within windows 7 64. I've had a few issues with finding a 64 bit native driver for my old Audigy for example, however I installed the 32 bit driver and it took (then I finally found the YoupPAX driver).
This isn't true with everything, but I've had a lot of luck with just installing old software. For the most part Windows 7 is pretty intelligent at spotting compatibility issues before a driver is installed.
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Zagdul
Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.10.12 00:18:00 -
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I wanna add on to this...
If your hardware isn't supported on a modern operating system, be it a scanner/printer or what ever, look to upgrade it. No matter what operating system you're on you'll have issues if the hardware is badly outdated.
I understand there are extreme circumstances where specialty equipment is concerned (canopus for example... (capture cards)) where they're a smaller company and their hardware is really expensive. In these cases, I advise hanging on to your old computer and running that old expensive piece of hardware. Canopus cards can go for upwards of $2k USD and do quite a bit. However they're sometimes a bit behind on their drivers due to codec issues. Their new cards are awesome... meh.. starting to rant... I think I've made the point though.
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Taxesarebad
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Posted - 2010.10.12 00:43:00 -
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win 7 64 bit here 3gb of ram i have no issues with Eve online, or any programs for that matter. just make sure if u get Itunes to choose the 64bit installer and not the 32 bit one.
if ur upgrading makesure ur gfx card has pixel shader 3.0 for the spring expansion
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Ascendic
Brotherhood of Suicidal Priests The Makhai
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Posted - 2010.10.12 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11 Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 18:23:56
Not the stick figure guy again
Considering I am the one posting with my main, you are clearly still the muppet
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Lykouleon
Trust Doesn't Rust
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Posted - 2010.10.12 01:56:00 -
[90]
Originally by: HeIIfire11
Now that was a good attempt,you want a cookie?
Edit:guess not.
Ill tell you another thing thats obvious.My **** is bigger than yours.If it wasnt,you wouldnt be sitting behind a computer all day to have said "knowledge".Ill leave you with that.But dont worry..it isnt the size that counts
Edit2:/me gives stick cult a half a cookie!
You seem mighty mad for someone not being trolled.
Quote: Lord Makk > Be warned, Lykouleon is akin to the love-child of a Goon and a Maru'Kage, with just a touch of Butter Dog for bitterness
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Fractal Muse
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Posted - 2010.10.12 02:45:00 -
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HeIIfire11 opinion aside, the way to go is 64 bit.
There really isn't any good reason to stick with 32 bit Windows 7.
The gains you get from Windows 7 64-bit outweigh any potential backwards compatibility issue one may have with a game developed over ten years ago.
As noted, most systems come with at least 4 gigs of ram and in Windows 7 32-bit you don't get the full benefits of that. These days, more and more systems are shipping with 6 gigs or 8 gigs.
OP, do yourself a favor and go with Windows 7 64-bit.
If you have multiple accounts you'll be glad you did. Even if you have one account you'll be happy you did. There is a noticeable (to me) performance increase from Windows 7 32-bit to Windows 7 64-bit when playing EVE.
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CCP Jericho
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Posted - 2010.10.12 03:54:00 -
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Inappropriate post removed.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.10.12 04:04:00 -
[93]
Originally by: CCP Jericho Inappropriate post removed.
Passing gesture towards This Post which seems to have been caught in the crossfire.
I see no reason that post got completely nuked, the post before it sure, but that one is fine :/ _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
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Yavanna Akallabeth
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Posted - 2010.10.12 04:44:00 -
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Those with win7 64bit having problems running games should go to MS and download the latest version of Direct X 9c
Also with high end ATI cards disable the Catalyst A.I.
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Makhar
Guild Alliance Executor Guild Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.12 05:24:00 -
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Thanks everybody for all the advice. Going down the 64-bit route. ____ ~ Guild Alliance ~ |
TheSardin
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Posted - 2010.10.12 07:25:00 -
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Commander Keen runs fine on w7 64bit. So go for 64bit.
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RaTTuS
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.10.12 08:30:00 -
[97]
64bit ...
fake edit ... you've done it anyway ...
but 64bit seriously --
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Br41n
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2010.10.12 09:13:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11 Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 17:18:51
Originally by: Rudolph Heimlich Edited by: Rudolph Heimlich on 11/10/2010 17:14:24 Unless you are aware of any reasons for you personally not to use 64-bit, it is what you should go for. Chances are you'll do just fine with 32-bit, as very few programs for non-power users requires >4GB RAM to be allocated at any one time - eve included. But 64-bit is the future. And I am also assuming you run Windows, which has an inbuilt emulator that works well for most things that do not support 64-bit yet.
Originally by: HeIIfire11
and you want to know it all mr.under a rock.My wife has windows 7 64 and has nothing but problems installing anything,while Im already gaming.To each their own.
Rarely has the OS been the problem when a woman encounters a computer-related problem.
To be serious... I use 64-bit on all my computers and I have not had any problems installing any software or game that is caused by me using 64-bit. It has been quite a while since I've heard a lot of complaints from other people running 64-bit, so I am guessing your problem lies with outdated software or hardware instead, tbh.
By the time 64 is fully used youll be getting a new computer..
Googl it damn it,copy and past this"problems installing games on windows 7 64bit" do it now beavis!!
64 bit works but installing stuff is always a mission.google it and you will see the tears.And my 32 rocks,with now problem playing anything turned all up.For eve..good enough anyday..with all settings on high assuming you have the right hardware.
Stop trying to install windows 3.11 and windows 95 era games, anything else works fine. If you can't install normal 32 bit software ur doing something wrong or try to install ****ty coded software that tries some illegal actions which have been countered with 64 bit
Really even old games work fine in 64 bit windows 7 and i've installed loads on my pc. (As old as dungeaon keeper, serious sam TFE, might and magic V, x-wing vs tie fighter, dark forces)
Don't try to scare ppl because you fail ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pinky: Gee, Brain. What are we going to do tonight?
Brain: The same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to take over the world. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
Rashmika Clavain
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.10.12 09:38:00 -
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Edited by: Rashmika Clavain on 12/10/2010 09:46:03
Originally by: HeIIfire11 Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 17:01:01 Id say 32 for most games.64 isnt really supported by a lot of games or programs.People will tell you other wise im sure.Just google problems installing games on windows 7 64bit.
youll see what I mean.
lol and before I finish posting,there they go.
google "problems installing games on windows 7 64bit" and see for yourself
I've had absolutely no issues with Winows 7 64 Bit and running old programs. Hell it even run Medieval:Total War I. Just because a game isn't labelled 64-bit, doesn't make it incompatible.
The biggest compatibility problems arise from the ever evolving graphics card/drivers, NOT the OS.
For example, I run a HD3850, however my missus has a 9800GTX. We're both Windows 7 64 bit, but she cannot play Medieval:Total War I. I can though... however this is obviously a 64 bit issue and nothing at all to do with the VGA cards eh?
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Syphon Lodian
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.10.12 09:43:00 -
[100]
What's 32-bit ?
Is that something they used to run on them Atari units back when they first came out? -------------------------------------------------- |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.10.12 09:47:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Syphon Lodian What's 32-bit ?
Is that something they used to run on them Atari units back when they first came out?
Ahhà good old Atari TT ù now that was a machine!
àbut then, of course, there was also the "64" bit Jaguar. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.10.12 10:42:00 -
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Originally by: Lykouleon You seem mighty mad for someone not being trolled.
You seem not to understand whats going on here
I set the bait for this troll fest and 4 pages worth of idiots (not all,but most) fell for it.And there is no anger in any of my posts..just bull**** and lolz.But seeing you beg for more gives me not only the satisfaction of pwnage,but also the confirmation that you are infact a muppet,and "working as intended"
Originally by: Ascendic
Originally by: HeIIfire11 Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 18:23:56
Not the stick figure guy again
Considering I am the one posting with my main, you are clearly still the muppet
Ah,again the satisfactionFor your info,I was talking about stick cult and not you.But It seems you didnt like me calling you a muppet did you? lol.Again,working as intendedYou still mad bro?
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Gunnanmon
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.10.12 10:46:00 -
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64 Signature locked for discussing moderation. Navigator
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.10.12 11:05:00 -
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Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 12/10/2010 11:12:37
Originally by: Rasquel I'm going to just leave this here.
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=problems+installing+games+on+windows+7+64bit&word2=problems+installing+games+on+windows+7+32bit
Oh and I did lol at how you just left this here.
Edit:oops forgot the quote lol
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Zagdul
Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.10.12 15:51:00 -
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Edited by: Zagdul on 12/10/2010 15:52:42
Originally by: HeIIfire11 Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 12/10/2010 10:51:19
Originally by: Lykouleon You seem mighty mad for someone not being trolled.
You seem not to understand whats going on here
I set the bait for this troll fest and 4 pages worth of idiots (not all,but most) fell for it.And there is no anger in any of my posts..just bull**** and lolz.But seeing you beg for more gives me not only the satisfaction of pwnage,but also the confirmation that you are infact a muppet,and "working as intended"
Originally by: Ascendic
Originally by: HeIIfire11 Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 18:23:56
Not the stick figure guy again
Considering I am the one posting with my main, you are clearly still the muppet
Ah,again the satisfactionFor your info,I was talking about stick cult and not you.But It seems you didnt like me calling you a muppet did you? lol.Again,working as intendedYou still mad bro?
Edit:By the way this thread is so yesterday.Lets find a new one
http://www.fatalascension.com/uploaded/LOL-I-TROLL-YOU.png
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Illwill Bill
Svea Rike Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.10.12 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Syphon Lodian What's 32-bit ?
Is that something they used to run on them Atari units back when they first came out?
The 68000. It was a thing of beauty.
Originally by: CCP Navigator Great story but you probably want this in CAOD so feel free to post there with your main.
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Drachiel
Mercury LLC
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Posted - 2010.10.12 16:02:00 -
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I've been running Windows 7 Professional 64-bit for over a year now, and have never had a problem with it that compatibility mode could not solve, and even those were rare. Honestly, go 64-bit. It doesn't matter with EVE so much, though.
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knobber Jobbler
Executive Intervention Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.10.12 16:39:00 -
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I used to work in a compatibity lab in a QA team for quite a few years, as well as senior QA tech and QA manager for a few different game publishers/developers so here is my educated take on 64bit OS's:
XP64 - Stable as 5000 tons of concrete. In fact the best OS i've used. I did have problems with older drives and some older software when it first came out. By older hardware I mean a joystick from 1998 and the odd sound and network card. Every game bar 1 (Rogue Trooper) worked on it. Vista 64 - Don't bother. Don't bother with Vista 32 either. Windows 7 64 - Awesome. Everything works apart from one network card (Dlink 547) I tried.
When 64 bit OS's first appeared they were lacking driver support for a few things and some software didn't work for various reasons. This was years ago. For at least the last year Windows 7 64 has been very well supported across the board and is the new standard.
There is no reason not to use it if you're hardware is relativly new or from a major brand or chip manufacturer. Occasionally you'll find something that doesn't work (wireless cards from D-Link seem to be badly supported) but other than that, there is no reason not to use it.
On the other hand, unless you are buying new hardware or you have new hardware there isn't much reason to upgrade i.e. you have a AMD XP3500, 2 GB of RAM and a X800XTX for instance. That said, you may see an improvement in performance going from Vista 32 to Windows 7 64. But if you're with XP32, with that sort of set up, its probably not worth it.
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Zions Child
Caldari Carthage Industries Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.10.12 16:51:00 -
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Edited by: Zions Child on 12/10/2010 16:52:47 To be fair to above poster, Wireless card manufacturers have notoriously ****ty programming QA. Honestly, they couldn't care less about their drivers. I had one that showed a "This installation menu was made with blah blah blah Windows Installation Menu Trial thingy blah blah."
Also, 64-bit OS is just better. Honestly. Without even using the full 64-bit address (cuz thats apparently pricy) an AMD processor can support 4 PB of memory. Admittedly, the virtual address space can only support 65000 times as much memory as your average 32-bit processor, but w/e. EDIT: And that's because AMD was being cheap. The PAE is limited to 52 bits and the VAE to 48. END EDIT.
Also, Hell is an idiot. Possibly a troll, a bad one at that. 64-bit architecture runs perfectly fine in your average 32-bit OS, they emulate just fine. There are no issues. None. Whatsoever.
Originally by: CCP Shadow *snip* Castration successful. Shadow.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2010.10.12 17:02:00 -
[110]
*/Still rocking Windows 3.11 For Workgroups/*
Secure 3rd party service | my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar' |
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Vak'ran
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Posted - 2010.10.12 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba */Still rocking Windows 3.11 For Workgroups/*
/me hugs his old 386 with Win3.1 (and Win1.0 for the lulz) under DOS 6.22
Vak'Ran is your local official non-dedicated part-time advocate of reading comprehension and proliferation of intelligence on the EVE Online Forum |
Krasnij Okjabre
Polaris Rising Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.12 17:24:00 -
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Edited by: Krasnij Okjabre on 12/10/2010 17:25:01
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa I'd install a 64-bit OS except for the fact that my original Audigy 1 Platinum with 5 1/4" expansion is not compatible with 64-bit Windows. There are no drivers for it.
And I use the stuff on the front all the time for my DJ work, so it's really not an option for me yet.
Why do good hardware manufacturers always backpedal on products they've made that are awesome? (Creative, Logitech, etc.)
I had a similar issue with an Audigy card... found these worked really well. Could not get Creative drivers to work with 64 bit at all.
Kras.
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Lithalnas
Amarr Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.12 17:44:00 -
[113]
64-bit basically lets you use more than just 4 gigs of ram. For a long time 4 gigs was thought to be a huge and necessary to run an operating system plus a game. However with the advent of win7 and games that take up over 2 gigs of ram by themselves(I'm looking at you crysis and bad company), larger ram sizes have become more necessary. The price of ram itself is also down significantly, newegg today has 6gb of ram here for only $130.
In short: 64 bit compatibility is only really on the driver level. 64 bit performance is really tied to ram size and driver maturity for other parts, which is getting quite good now. -------------
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.12 17:54:00 -
[114]
Now that you know 64 bit you should get linux and start getting the most from your pc, and save several hundred dollars.
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Tal'sung
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Posted - 2010.10.12 21:08:00 -
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Edited by: Tal''sung on 12/10/2010 21:09:33
Originally by: Cipher Jones Now that you know 64 bit you should get linux and start getting the most from your pc, and save several hundred dollars.
Yeah it's totally awesome having to type a paragraph into terminal just to install something that's not in the package manager, not being able to play 95% of games on the market is another nice bonus!
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.10.12 21:28:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Zagdul Edited by: Zagdul on 12/10/2010 15:52:42
Originally by: HeIIfire11 Trolling removed -- Spitfire.
http://www.fatalascension.com/uploaded/LOL-I-TROLL-YOU.png
Yeah..Im sure you speak from experience.But you wish you could do it like I did.
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Zions Child
Caldari Carthage Industries Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.10.12 21:43:00 -
[117]
Originally by: HeIIfire11
Yeah..Im sure you speak from experience.But you wish you could do it like I did.
Confirming that Heiifireoneone is amazing troll. He troll'd all joo peeps so awsumly.
Actually, Hell, you're just technologically incompetent, while aspiring to be technologically savvy. Your inability to display true knowledge has led to you being called out on this, and you've responded with "HAHA I TROLLD JOO" and "GOOGLE IT GOOGLE IT GGOALGEA EET!!!!!!!oneeleventy!!"
Honestly. We know you're an idiot thanks to your posts in this thread. No need to rub it into our faces that you're a part of the population that may or may not be one standard deviation below the average on an IQ test.
Originally by: CCP Shadow *snip* Castration successful. Shadow.
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.10.12 22:05:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Zions Child
Originally by: HeIIfire11
Yeah..Im sure you speak from experience.But you wish you could do it like I did.
Confirming that Heiifireoneone is amazing troll. He troll'd all joo peeps so awsumly.
Actually, Hell, you're just technologically incompetent, while aspiring to be technologically savvy. Your inability to display true knowledge has led to you being called out on this, and you've responded with "HAHA I TROLLD JOO" and "GOOGLE IT GOOGLE IT GGOALGEA EET!!!!!!!oneeleventy!!"
Honestly. We know you're an idiot thanks to your posts in this thread. No need to rub it into our faces that you're a part of the population that may or may not be one standard deviation below the average on an IQ test.
Nice try,with your fail counter that is so predictable.I think you need to rethink comming out from under that rock you were hiding under.Crawl back under there until you can come up with something original.Your boring me
And thx for taking the time to post and adding to the satisfaction.
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Zions Child
Caldari Carthage Industries Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.10.12 22:08:00 -
[119]
Originally by: HeIIfire11
Nice try,with your fail counter that is so predictable.I think you need to rethink comming out from under that rock you were hiding under.Crawl back under there until you can come up with something original.Your boring me
And thx for taking the time to post and adding to the satisfaction.
Mmhmm, sure thing, anytime. Although I will say, leaving my C&P and OOPE rock is oh so difficult to do.
Also, the word is "coming."
Also: HOLY **** WHEN DID THE TIME FLUX THING CHANGE FROM 5 MINUTES TO TWO?!
Originally by: CCP Shadow *snip* Castration successful. Shadow.
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Snowmann
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Posted - 2010.10.12 22:09:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Zions Child
Also: HOLY **** WHEN DID THE TIME FLUX THING CHANGE FROM 5 MINUTES TO TWO?!
Quite a while ago.
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Zions Child
Caldari Carthage Industries Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.10.12 22:10:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Snowmann
Originally by: Zions Child
Also: HOLY **** WHEN DID THE TIME FLUX THING CHANGE FROM 5 MINUTES TO TWO?!
Quite a while ago.
Oh Rearry? I was offline for like two months, haven't used the forum in maybe three... sometime in these past two months? Damn I've been out of the loop. Well, at least they've finally shortened it.
Originally by: CCP Shadow *snip* Castration successful. Shadow.
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.10.12 22:13:00 -
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Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 12/10/2010 22:16:15 Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 12/10/2010 22:15:47
Originally by: Zions Child
Originally by: HeIIfire11
Nice try,with your fail counter that is so predictable.I think you need to rethink comming out from under that rock you were hiding under.Crawl back under there until you can come up with something original.Your boring me
And thx for taking the time to post and adding to the satisfaction.
Mmhmm, sure thing, anytime. Although I will say, leaving my C&P and OOPE rock is oh so difficult to do.
Also, the word is "coming."
Also: HOLY **** WHEN DID THE TIME FLUX THING CHANGE FROM 5 MINUTES TO TWO?!
Correction,the word is "typo"
And Ill just put this here for you too.
Originally by: HeIIfire11 Oh,Im sorry Mr.Pleasure but I wasnt aware that this was grammar school or that I had anything to prove here.Wouldnt want anyone in this highly intelectual forum to think bad of me
Originally by: Zions Child
Oh Rearry? I was offline for like two months, haven't used the forum in maybe three...
And the word is "really"
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Zions Child
Caldari Carthage Industries Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.10.12 22:17:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11
Correction,the word is "typo"
And Ill just put this here for you too.
Indeed, its not a grammar school. That doesn't mean you can't right click on the words with little wavy red lines underneath them and correct them. Unless you're typing too fast to proofread what you're attempting to say.
And no, the word I corrected was coming, which you spelled "comming."
A typo is unrelated to your inability to right click on misspelled words.
Originally by: CCP Shadow *snip* Castration successful. Shadow.
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.10.12 22:21:00 -
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Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 12/10/2010 22:22:45
Originally by: Zions Child
Originally by: HeIIfire11
Correction,the word is "typo"
And Ill just put this here for you too.
Indeed, its not a grammar school. That doesn't mean you can't right click on the words with little wavy red lines underneath them and correct them. Unless you're typing too fast to proofread what you're attempting to say.
And no, the word I corrected was coming, which you spelled "comming."
A typo is unrelated to your inability to right click on misspelled words.
Originally by: Zions Child
Oh Rearry? I was offline for like two months, haven't used the forum in maybe three...
You mean like this?L is no where near R.And It would take too much time proofreading for this forum.
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Kidain
Gallente Rule of Five
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Posted - 2010.10.12 22:28:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11 Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 12/10/2010 22:22:45
Originally by: Zions Child
Originally by: HeIIfire11
Correction,the word is "typo"
And Ill just put this here for you too.
Indeed, its not a grammar school. That doesn't mean you can't right click on the words with little wavy red lines underneath them and correct them. Unless you're typing too fast to proofread what you're attempting to say.
And no, the word I corrected was coming, which you spelled "comming."
A typo is unrelated to your inability to right click on misspelled words.
Originally by: Zions Child
Oh Rearry? I was offline for like two months, haven't used the forum in maybe three...
You mean like this?L is no where near R.And It would take too much time proofreading for this forum.
I'm still agog you have a wife.
"No darling you can do just fine with a washboard and soap. We don't need one of them fancy new Washing Machines. They eat children! Google it!!" --------------------------------------
In an infinite universe, the one thing sentient life cannot afford to have is a sense of proportion. - Douglas Adams |
HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.10.12 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: Kidain I'm still agog you have a wife.
And Im not surprised you dont have one..
"Son you better get out of the house and meet a woman..but mom,I finally found someone who talks to me and a place where I can feel important.Ill have my own place by the time Im 40,I promise"
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.10.12 22:49:00 -
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My boy Zions. He's all grown up, it almost brings a tear to the eye. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
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Zions Child
Caldari Carthage Industries Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.10.12 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero My boy Zions. He's all grown up, it almost brings a tear to the eye.
<3
Originally by: CCP Shadow *snip* Castration successful. Shadow.
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Zions Child
Caldari Carthage Industries Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.10.12 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11
You mean like this?L is no where near R.And It would take too much time proofreading for this forum.
You should add a space after your punctuation, it makes it easier to read the drivel you continue to post. It should be fairly obvious that I intended rearry as a comedic misspelling of the word really, but then, you wouldn't understand comedic misspellings of words, as you don't seem to understand how to spell them in the first place.
As to your having a wife, I'm not surprised, there are a surprisingly large quantity of women who take it upon themselves to **** generally unattractive men. Its called pity-****ing. Some of them see it as their duty to do it, and actually marry them. Poor sods.
Finally, 64-Bit architecture is the new wave of the future. Some servers even run in 128-Bit, although I doubt you'll see that in home use for a long time, as its monumentally more difficult to convert to. No reason to use 32-Bit architecture anymore. None whatsoever. Unless you're a dolt.
Originally by: CCP Shadow *snip* Castration successful. Shadow.
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.10.12 23:47:00 -
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Originally by: Zions Child As to your having a wife, I'm not surprised, there are a surprisingly large quantity of women who take it upon themselves to **** generally unattractive men. Its called pity-****ing. Some of them see it as their duty to do it, and actually marry them. Poor sods.
Oh so thats how you got luckyDont make the mistake of thinking everyone is as fugly as you.But it looks like youve found one to pitty you since you know so much about it.Keep trying maybe youll find someone who cares about you and where you can cause any kind of emotion.But dont think for a second that I care a bit about you and your fail troll attempts.This is nothing more than amusing to me and with every post in which you try harder and harder to reduce someone to your level makes me lol.
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CyberGh0st
Minmatar Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.10.12 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11
Originally by: Zions Child As to your having a wife, I'm not surprised, there are a surprisingly large quantity of women who take it upon themselves to **** generally unattractive men. Its called pity-****ing. Some of them see it as their duty to do it, and actually marry them. Poor sods.
Oh so thats how you got luckyDont make the mistake of thinking everyone is as fugly as you.But it looks like youve found one to pitty you since you know so much about it.Keep trying maybe youll find someone who cares about you and where you can cause any kind of emotion.But dont think for a second that I care a bit about you and your fail troll attempts.This is nothing more than amusing to me and with every post in which you try harder and harder to reduce someone to your level makes me lol.
Stop hijacking this thread and let the grown ups have a conversation please
http://www.mmodata.net Favorite MMO's : DAoC Pre-TOA-NF / SWG Pre-CU-NGE |
HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.10.12 23:57:00 -
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Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 12/10/2010 23:59:47
Originally by: CyberGh0st
Originally by: HeIIfire11
Originally by: Zions Child As to your having a wife, I'm not surprised, there are a surprisingly large quantity of women who take it upon themselves to **** generally unattractive men. Its called pity-****ing. Some of them see it as their duty to do it, and actually marry them. Poor sods.
Oh so thats how you got luckyDont make the mistake of thinking everyone is as fugly as you.But it looks like youve found one to pitty you since you know so much about it.Keep trying maybe youll find someone who cares about you and where you can cause any kind of emotion.But dont think for a second that I care a bit about you and your fail troll attempts.This is nothing more than amusing to me and with every post in which you try harder and harder to reduce someone to your level makes me lol.
Stop hijacking this thread and let the grown ups have a conversation please
This thread is long dead already and should have been locked..nothing but lolz left to be had here,but dont let me stop you if you feel theres something left to say
Edit:But since you said please its all yours
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brutoid
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.10.13 00:08:00 -
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64-bit.
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Abaroth Charmar
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Posted - 2010.10.13 00:12:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11 This thread is long dead already and should have been locked..nothing but lolz left to be had here,but dont let me stop you if you feel theres something left to say
Edit:But since you said please its all yours
I thought you were emoragequtting?
64-bit
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.10.13 00:26:00 -
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Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 13/10/2010 00:31:55
Originally by: Abaroth Charmar
Originally by: HeIIfire11 This thread is long dead already and should have been locked..nothing but lolz left to be had here,but dont let me stop you if you feel theres something left to say
Edit:But since you said please its all yours
I thought you were emoragequtting?
64-bit
It has nothing to do with emo rage..game is just heading in a direction Im not interested in.One has nothing to do with the other tbh.Read the post again and youll see my reasons.
Your not honestly thinking it has anything to do with this thread lol..dream on.Sorry to disapoint you but this is something I thought about for quite a while.Many people I liked to play with quit and are still quitting,not much reason to stick around.
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Abaroth Charmar
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Posted - 2010.10.13 00:48:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11 Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 13/10/2010 00:31:55
Originally by: Abaroth Charmar
Originally by: HeIIfire11 This thread is long dead already and should have been locked..nothing but lolz left to be had here,but dont let me stop you if you feel theres something left to say
Edit:But since you said please its all yours
I thought you were emoragequtting?
64-bit
It has nothing to do with emo rage..game is just heading in a direction Im not interested in.One has nothing to do with the other tbh.Read the post again and youll see my reasons.
Your not honestly thinking it has anything to do with this thread lol..dream on.Sorry to disapoint you but this is something I thought about for quite a while.Many people I liked to play with quit and are still quitting,not much reason to stick around.
Well, and I mean no offense with this, why don't you just quietly **** off then?
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Zions Child
Caldari Carthage Industries Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.10.13 02:20:00 -
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Edited by: Zions Child on 13/10/2010 02:21:38
Originally by: Abaroth Charmar
Well, and I mean no offense with this, why don't you just quietly **** off then?
Because he feels a need to respond to everyone in this thread who is trolling him. Because he thinks hes trolling other people. Because he is pretty much the man in that jpeg linked earlier
By the by, Hell, I know for a fact that I don't get pity-****ed because I **** men. And although men may just want sex, they tend to not pity-**** as much as women. But, you're a failed troll who feels the need to either defend yourself or attempt to reverse everything anyone says about you. Your rebuttals against our claims have tended almost entirely to the "lol I trolld joo," "No U," and "YUR AN IDIAT" type of responses.
So much fun to keep this trolling drivel at the top as opposed to all those "OMG CCP DOOMED EVE" and "MICROTRANSACTIONS" threads. God I love total derails.
Originally by: CCP Shadow *snip* Castration successful. Shadow.
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Stick Cult
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Posted - 2010.10.13 02:26:00 -
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Hell, how many times have you said you're leaving this thread? Yet you're still here... I know you're just gonna say I'm boring you or that I should try harder, but really. You're an idiot, and this thread proves it. Again. You're returded.
(Mods: I wasn't purposely avoiding the word filters, simply combining the word ****** with a poop joke. )
Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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Caldari 5
Amarr The Element Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.10.13 04:29:00 -
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Wo!, people are still using 32bit??????
I've been using 64bit OSs since they released Windows XP 64bit. I have never had an issue with 32 vs 64bit that wasn't Driver related.
Key points to consider, Never expect the hardware manufacturers to maintain drivers for Hardware Released prior to an Operating System being released. If Hardware is released after the Operating System expect it to take a minimum of 6 to 12 months after the release of the OS to have drivers available for the hardware.
I wasn't even aware that they released a 32bit version of Windows 7 until I tried installing a 64bit only driver of a printer onto my laptop 3 days after purchasing my laptop, Needless to say I emailed and complained on the Laptop manufacturers forums for being idiots for installing a 32bit OS on a 64bit system that had 6GB of RAM Stock. Luckily I managed to get a new 64bit version of the OS.
I knew that XP and Vista were going to have both 32 and 64 bit versions, but I didn't expect Windows 7 to still have a legacy version. And manufacturers only install the 32bit version to save a dollar, like quiet litterally 1 Dollar, the 32bit version was 1 dollar cheaper than the 64bit at the wholesaler. (had a freind in retail at the time)
TLDR Use 64bit version
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Makhar
Guild Alliance Executor Guild Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.13 10:19:00 -
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Incidentally, interesting article here about XP vs Vista vs Windows 7
link: http://www.techradar.com/..../windows-compared-windows-7-vs-vista-vs-xp ____ ~ Guild Alliance ~ |
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Illwill Bill
Svea Rike Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.10.13 10:35:00 -
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Originally by: Makhar Incidentally, interesting article here about XP vs Vista vs Windows 7
link: http://www.techradar.com/..../windows-compared-windows-7-vs-vista-vs-xp
What does that have to do with using a 32-bit or 64-bit OS? Both XP and 7 are available in 64-bit flavors.
Originally by: CCP Navigator Great story but you probably want this in CAOD so feel free to post there with your main.
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Moni Toimikone
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.13 10:39:00 -
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I haven't had any problems with my 64 bit Vista and now W7 on my soon 3 year old rig. Any problems related to 64 bit OS, that is. I don't really see any point going for a 32 bit OS as your graphics card will already eat 1 GB of that 4 GB total of allocatable address space and I've had EVE use up nearly 2 GB memory in a huge fleet fight.
TL:DR = Go for 64 bit OS and 6+ GB ram. More the merrier. ____________________________
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CCP Spitfire
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Posted - 2010.10.13 11:23:00 -
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Trolling and personal attacks removed. Please try to keep it civil, folks. Spitfire
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Ultim8Evil
Ministry Of Eternal Disorder
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Posted - 2010.10.13 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Spitfire Trolling and personal attacks removed. Please try to keep it civil, folks. Spitfire
The noob strikes
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Posted - 2010.10.13 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: bassie12bf1
Originally by: HeIIfire11 Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 17:01:01 Id say 32 for most games.64 isnt really supported by a lot of games or programs.People will tell you other wise im sure.Just google problems installing games on windows 7 64bit.
youll see what I mean.
lol and before I finish posting,there they go.
google "problems installing games on windows 7 64bit" and see for yourself
I have yet to see a game that wouldn't work under windows 7 64bit.
Quake 2 man. I cried.
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Illwill Bill
Svea Rike Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.10.13 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: Matt Douglass Quake 2
Runs in compatability mode, but unfortunately you can't run in OpenGL mode.
Originally by: CCP Navigator Great story but you probably want this in CAOD so feel free to post there with your main.
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Makhar
Guild Alliance Executor Guild Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.13 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Illwill Bill
Originally by: Makhar Incidentally, interesting article here about XP vs Vista vs Windows 7
link: http://www.techradar.com/..../windows-compared-windows-7-vs-vista-vs-xp
What does that have to do with using a 32-bit or 64-bit OS? Both XP and 7 are available in 64-bit flavors.
That would probably explain the use of the word "incidentally" in my comment (i.e. to indicate that my comment was merely 'incidental' to the OP rather than directly related to it).
If you're going to pick holes in what I say, at least get it right. ____ ~ Guild Alliance ~ |
Shavik Sumi
Caldari Joint Ventures Limited
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Posted - 2010.10.14 06:18:00 -
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Didn't want to be bothered by reading 5 pages of stuff but as a programmer, go 64 bit.. Among other reasons, 64 bit Windows has a thing call Patch Guard which really beefs up security against root kits and the like. --
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