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Frash
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Posted - 2010.10.14 01:37:00 -
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I know its stated all the time, but why don't they just get rid of learning skills and change the amount of sp needed for all skills while training. That would save over 30 days worth of training time.
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Zinizter
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Posted - 2010.10.14 02:06:00 -
[122]
What if a vet player gives implants to a new player (irl friend for example)?
Also a boost but you would never know about it...
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Lady Parity
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Posted - 2010.10.14 02:33:00 -
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I am a tough ***** to please BUT I gotta say i actually like the idea of noobs getting a buff, anyone thats played for a long time shouldnt feel threatened this implant is like training wheels
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TheBlueMonkey
Gallente Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.10.14 11:27:00 -
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Eve isn't supposed to be a quick game but I can see the business requirement for "MOOOOOAAARRRRR PLAYERS!!!"
Doesn't mean I agree with the methods of getting them. --
Nothing is worthless, you may have gotten it for free but it still has an inherent value
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Jhoria Englside
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Posted - 2010.10.14 11:57:00 -
[125]
hurf blurf Edit: or not
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necronarcosis
Eggz Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.10.14 12:13:00 -
[126]
way to give your loyal subscribers the finger......... eh? |
Guilliman R
Gallente Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.10.14 12:27:00 -
[127]
Can I buy this for existing characters? :O if so where! ------
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Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.10.14 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: Guilliman R Can I buy this for existing characters? :O if so where!
No, it's a special item you get from buying the next box set, and it only works on characters less than 35 days old.
I guess you might be able to buy one from a new player as a curio, but it's not impossible that the item is automatically implanted when the character is created.
You could use it to make a pretty nasty suicide gank noob alt tho :p
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
Janya Rykayn
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Posted - 2010.10.15 12:10:00 -
[129]
Quote: Subscription canceled..not because of this alone,but for the simple reason that they seem to care more about getting new players than keeping long paying loyal customers.As they introduced remaps,new players and griefer alts get two and the older players get one.The reward for playing this game for a long time decreases as the starting bonus gets larger.
Plex is another reason..why do missions or grind anything?Its become a contest of real life cash and not skills or age,which I liked about this game.Its going further with plex for remaps and it wont stop there,trust me.I cant bring myself to log in anymore anyway.
You know, I find this new development viscerally disturbing somehow, even though when you think about it, it's not going to affect gameplay much for any vet, except possibly for the suicide gankers-- but really, what suicide ganker is going to pay $40 bucks for a boxed set just so he can suicide gank?
I do agree with the general feeling of the people who are complaining about this. They're afraid this sort of thing will form a pattern which will eventuall break Eve.
But they need to wake up and smell the coffee because in many ways Eve broke years ago. Partly it was the RMT people who did it. Partly emergent effects of evolving gameplay did it, blob warfare and the resulting death of solo and small-unit PVP being primary examples.
At this point Eve has pretty much reached end-of-life for me. CCP have dealt with most of the above problems so far in ways that approach genius, but I think profit motivation, a changing userbase and the things they are going to have to do to make the game fun for new players are going to make Eve more and more unpalatable to the veterans.
We'll see what's in store with Incarna and whatnot but I'm less and less enthused about logging into a game with bought characters, bought isk, bought capships and bought skillpoints. It started feeling like work a while back.
Spin brigade commence.
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My Postman
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Posted - 2010.10.15 13:13:00 -
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IŠll bet Helicity and friends have a box ready when rolling new toon for their f***fest next year. Nice to face a catalyst with + 20% damage when sitting in a Hulk.
Well played, CCP.
Further i bet this is only the first step. And i donŠt even want to think where it leads to....
/me outta here googeling "online spaceship games".
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Grimpak
Gallente The Whitehound Corporation The Chamber of Commerce
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Posted - 2010.10.15 15:10:00 -
[131]
Originally by: My Postman IŠll bet Helicity and friends have a box ready when rolling new toon for their f***fest next year. Nice to face a catalyst with + 20% damage when sitting in a Hulk.
with below average support skills in both fitting, damage, and HP. ---
Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
ain't that right. |
Terianna Eri
Amarr Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2010.10.15 16:36:00 -
[132]
I dont have a problem with CCP giving new players a leg up really; the faster they can train into a "real ship" the faster they're available as good allies / good fights / etc.
The fact that you have to basically pay extra for it via the boxed edition kind of bugs me though; honestly I'd rather they just give it to the first character on any new account :p ________________
Originally by: CCP Incognito PS the "time to P*nis" is the shortest time recorded in human history. :)
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Crimson Violet
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Posted - 2010.10.15 17:19:00 -
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Stop ****ing around the issue and erase learning skills already.
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Naomi Wildfire
Amarr Stardust Heavy Industries Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.10.15 20:22:00 -
[134]
Well, its not the item that causes me headaches, with the revamp for plex you can "buy" Skillpoints, always have the perfect attributes to fit your needs.
Now they implemented the plex thing in your char sheet on sisi, theres a button which sends you to some ccp plex side and theres a **** quote like "You license is fine but buy a plex, you can never have enough"
whats next?
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dethleffs
Silverwing Explorers
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Posted - 2010.10.15 20:52:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Jhoria Englside hurf blurf Edit: or not
hurf bluf. no edits needed.
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Corozan Aspinall
Party Time Inc.
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Posted - 2010.10.15 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: Running missions need i remind everyone that the first 35 days are spent wasting time getting learning skills to lvl 5/4 engineering to 5 and electronics to 5? this is a good bridge to removing learning skills
First 77 days/3 months usually for me. I train learning to 5/5 since it takes 80 odd days anyway later on, even when you have em all to 5/4 already.
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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2010.10.15 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: Corozan Aspinall
Originally by: Running missions need i remind everyone that the first 35 days are spent wasting time getting learning skills to lvl 5/4 engineering to 5 and electronics to 5? this is a good bridge to removing learning skills
First 77 days/3 months usually for me. I train learning to 5/5 since it takes 80 odd days anyway later on, even when you have em all to 5/4 already.
IT IS A SIMPLE TRADE OFF.
If you cant figure it our you fail at advanced thinking.
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Nyssa Mnemonic
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Posted - 2010.10.18 23:16:00 -
[138]
Originally by: Crimson Violet Stop ****ing around the issue and erase learning skills already.
QFT, Justice, and the Eden way + 1 Trillion isk + 99.99 Interwebs. |
Xorv
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Posted - 2010.10.19 06:07:00 -
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Originally by: Crimson Violet Stop ****ing around the issue and erase learning skills already.
Yup.
As for the rest not sure why people would get so worked up over new players getting +3 implants that don't last beyond 35 days.
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Jojo Redana
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Posted - 2010.10.19 06:37:00 -
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I've been very very very very bored in EVE lately. In last month i have logged in maybe twice... I hope CCP will get more new players with this bs move.
I don't like the idea of this. Next year newbies get 10M Sp or? What's next?
Anyway. I have been an industrial-type player all my EVE life. I've been avoiding any PvP and griefing etc. Maybe it's time to change that... More new players, more targets to abuse.
Maybe this is what i need -- I'm lost in space |
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Shaalira D'arc
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Posted - 2010.10.19 06:45:00 -
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Originally by: My Postman IŠll bet Helicity and friends have a box ready when rolling new toon for their f***fest next year. Nice to face a catalyst with + 20% damage when sitting in a Hulk.
Well played, CCP.
Further i bet this is only the first step. And i donŠt even want to think where it leads to....
/me outta here googeling "online spaceship games".
Do you think people would really play $45 to have a suicide catalyst that would be slightly more effective for a week or two? Instead of using one of the free slots in an existing account? Really?
Consider that you can easily get two PLEX's for that amount of money, which currently translates into over 700m isk. That would be sufficient for quite a number of smartbombing ships, which the last Hulkageddon winner used to win a silly amount of prize categories.
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Ditch Pig
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Posted - 2010.10.19 14:15:00 -
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I can hardly wait to by skill points with cash. Say 1 Million for 20 Dollars or something like that. With a limit of 5 Million a year maybe. I could level 5 some long skills.
Or even buy 10 Milion a year for 100 bucks, I'd like that too...
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Atius Tirawa
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2010.10.19 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: HeIIfire11 Subscription canceled
Hooray !
so I take it you support this sort of thing yah? or are you just happy the game is losing its core. -----------
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kapatell
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Posted - 2010.11.20 19:34:00 -
[144]
Will soon have to find another game. EVE turns into L2.
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Idicious Lightbane
Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.11.20 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ditch Pig I can hardly wait to by skill points with cash. Say 1 Million for 20 Dollars or something like that. With a limit of 5 Million a year maybe. I could level 5 some long skills.
Or even buy 10 Milion a year for 100 bucks, I'd like that too...
No, just no. If you want those last extra 5% efficiency/fancy ships you should have to spend the time training for it (and yes, I still have alot of long training to do)
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PeHD0M
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Posted - 2010.11.20 20:12:00 -
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The major problem of all major MMOs: the game gets older, more veteran players, newbies don't want to join the game, developers buff newbies more and more, veterans get frustrated and leave.
I don't like it. Exclusive +20% to damage implant, that can't be removed from player.
What next? Instant teleportation to desired location? Or maybe invulnerability for 60 days? How about instant enemy destruction "I win" button on your ibis for only 39.99$? Old DD on your titan for 26.99?
How low can you fall CPP?
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Feligast
Minmatar Intentionally Destructive
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Posted - 2010.11.20 20:17:00 -
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So, to recap:
CCP adds bonus for extra price in boxed set A bunch of bittervets start screaming "Back in MY day, Sonny..." with general admonishments to get off their lawn. Others advise it's only 35 days, get over it old man, blah blah Vets threaten to ragequit, believing game will certainly collapse as soon as they cancel sub.
About right so far?
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Enuen Ravenseye
Amicus Morte Dead Muppets
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Posted - 2010.11.20 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: Ditch Pig Or even buy 10 Million ... for 100 bucks, I'd like that too...
Hell, if that's their price point then I'll drop $2k and create God.
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Jaari Val'Dara
Caldari Atomic Zeppelins BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.11.20 20:26:00 -
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Edited by: Jaari Val''Dara on 20/11/2010 20:27:18 I, for one, welcome our new newbie overlords.
I just don't see the problem with giving newbies a slight boost, as long as it will make at least single new player stay for good, I will call it a great success.
Bitter vets, you had years to gain SP, the few hundred thousand extra sp the newbies will gain won't change a thing.
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Medarr
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.11.20 20:32:00 -
[150]
Good for them newbies.. The sooner they get up to speed the sooner they can support part of your corperation. Win win situation for everyone to be honest.
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