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Riffix
The Graduates
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Posted - 2010.10.15 01:56:00 -
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Honestly, this is my new favorite feature of the upcoming expansion. The only problem I see is that it took so long. When you are done with this, do something about the camera! :-) "Lead, follow, or get the #@$@#$ out of the way" |
Xenuchrist
STK Scientific IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.15 02:06:00 -
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Edited by: Xenuchrist on 15/10/2010 02:07:28 Haven't looked at the new options on sisi yet, but these are the ones I would love to see implemented:
Select next waypoint (if any) Launch drones / dronegroup Create BM
-- "In human stupidity, when it is not malicious, there is something very touching, even beautiful... There always is." /Tolstoy |
Typhado3
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.15 02:19:00 -
[153]
awesome \o/
I foresee many accidental warps and jumps in our future ------------------------------ God is an afk cloaker |
Isbe
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Posted - 2010.10.15 02:39:00 -
[154]
Haven't seen it posted yet, so my shortcuttable command wish is: All Drones: Mine Repeatedly.
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Victor Valka
Caldari The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2010.10.15 04:11:00 -
[155]
Well, this is unexpected. Certainly explains why it got so chilly down here, in Hell.
Originally by: Spaztick You are not outnumbered, you are in a target-rich environment.
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Joe Starbreaker
M. Corp
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Posted - 2010.10.15 05:53:00 -
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THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU !
... Join M. Corp, see the Galaxy |
Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.10.15 06:16:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia Edited by: Tippia on 14/10/2010 17:19:28
Originally by: Hordi LaGeorge That said, with the new system will there be a UN-FOCUS from chat command, for when I want to start flying vs chatting?
Good point!
It's another one of those things that the whole "<enter> to chat" method has fixed (almost) automatically: the default state is not to have chat focused, and as soon as you send your message, you go back to that state.
Yes, this means hitting <enter> before and after any message, but it's a small price to pay, and as mentioned, it creates a nice rhythm for your muscle memory.
I'm guessing that since <enter> is currently tied to "Accept current dialog window", and this bind can't be changed, they feel that the two would collide, but mehà If you have such an urgent need to enter something into chat, that buy order window you have open can probably be cancelled and left for later: <esc><enter>omgz, wartargets!!<enter>
I would imagine that they don't want people to just press enter and accidentally accept some half-finished market/industry/do-you-really-want-to-jump-into-lowsec warningà
edit: Oh, and another wish list item: could we please be given the ability to unbind "double-click to approach" function, or at least change it to some other mouse/kb combo?
Wile I would prefer <enter> to enter and leave chat mode, if that key is irrevocably tied to "Accept current dialog window" it will create a lot of problems.
Think about people spamming fleet invites to missionrunners/cloaked ships and so on hoping to get them when they are hitting enter. It could really ruin the day for them even if they are not falling for that, simply having a constant pop up from people hoping to get you will be very annoying.
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Paknac Queltel
Swords Horses and Heavy Metal
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Posted - 2010.10.15 06:37:00 -
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Awesome! Finally! Shortcuts!
Originally by: CCP Optimal's blog To be able to do shortcuts properly, we saw no other option than discontinuing the current "set-chat-focus-on-any-key" functionality.
That was functionality? I always thought of it as an annoying quirk... Especially when typing in a search box through a session change, and having half of it go into whatever chat is on top. - Paknac Queltel
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Waukesha
Amarr Invictus Australis BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.10.15 06:42:00 -
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Can we please get the option to set multiple orbit ranges to hotkeys eg. one for 10kms one for 15kms ?
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Tradew1nd
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Posted - 2010.10.15 07:41:00 -
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Incarna Having a solid release date, with a portion of it set to hit TQ.
DNF seeing a release date.
Rocket Fixes live on Sisi.
now this.
I think I'll be taking my ice skates to hell for the weekend, weather down there sounds perfect for it. |
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VonKolroth
Gallente Anarchist's Anonymous
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Posted - 2010.10.15 07:48:00 -
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Edited by: VonKolroth on 15/10/2010 07:51:11 Absolutely nothing from Incusus sounded appealing to me excluding the toon avatar updates until this, which is something I've been waiting for for quite some time. The only hotkey I really desire is an "unlock Target" and/or "unlock all" hotkeys. These must be added. ~
A man with a Domi analyzes every problem in the terms of drones. |
Raimo
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.10.15 08:08:00 -
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Edited by: Raimo on 15/10/2010 08:09:54 Partially copypasting my post from the test server forum, and I have not read this thread but this needs to be voiced:
Approach and Align should be the same key shortcut for logical reasons (both are approaching the object, also the on screen button location)
Also, I haven't tested on SISI but read that align and warp default next to each other (A and S), this *will* get people killed, why not use A (approach *AND* align) and W (warp) (more logical as well?) (And swap S for orbit maybe)
And if it's true that CTRL- clicking also *unlocks* targets(devblog said "toggle" so it must be) it's probably one of the better CCP trolls ever, that should obviosly be changed as most people spam CTRL when acquiring targets, as well as misclick on already locked targets... Shift-click for unlock and keep CTRL just for lock or something?
Then there's this hilarious bit that also supports something to be done to the approach key
Quote: I foresee a few accidents as pilots try to approach and lock a target at the same time (Ctrl+Q by default).
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Dapperdrake
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Posted - 2010.10.15 08:15:00 -
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I f***king love you CCP !
Can't wait to see this.
Also, I don't know if this has been answered yhet, but will we be able to swithc targets with a shortcut ? (as ctrl+tab for switching tabs on firefox), this would be clearly awesome.
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Taudia
Gallente Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.10.15 08:18:00 -
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Originally by: Raimo
And if it's true that CTRL- clicking also *unlocks* targets(devblog said "toggle" so it must be) it's probably one of the better CCP trolls ever, that should obviosly be changed as most people spam CTRL when acquiring targets, as well as misclick on already locked targets... Shift-click for unlock and keep CTRL just for lock or something?
You can't drop a target that isn't locked, so this would only occur when the lagg is pretty bad. Though if the overview updates while you are spamming...
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Raimo
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.10.15 08:22:00 -
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Originally by: Taudia
Originally by: Raimo
And if it's true that CTRL- clicking also *unlocks* targets(devblog said "toggle" so it must be) it's probably one of the better CCP trolls ever, that should obviosly be changed as most people spam CTRL when acquiring targets, as well as misclick on already locked targets... Shift-click for unlock and keep CTRL just for lock or something?
You can't drop a target that isn't locked, so this would only occur when the lagg is pretty bad. Though if the overview updates while you are spamming...
Which it will do like anyone who PVP's knows. Let's not chance it, eh? ---------- www.eve-arena.com
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Sverre Haakonson
Gallente X1983
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Posted - 2010.10.15 08:29:00 -
[166]
Please, make it that we can import the configuration for the keys as XML file to make it possible to help noobs in our corps.
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Armoured C
Gallente Legion of EVE
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Posted - 2010.10.15 08:44:00 -
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man cant wait to get a drone shortcut for attacking and reurning to cargo hold.
now i am looking forward to expansion :)
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Menyet Ikeemoo
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Posted - 2010.10.15 09:03:00 -
[168]
scanning hotkeys, please?
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Nye Jaran
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Posted - 2010.10.15 10:00:00 -
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Edited by: Nye Jaran on 15/10/2010 10:02:08 Cool idea, but there's some fail in that list of shortcuts. W is orbit but S is warp to? REALLY? Why not get crazy and make W warp to and S orbit? Or even better, make O orbit? Yes it's not the left side of the keyboard, but there won't be people scratching their heads trying to figure out what the hell wrbit means.
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Raimo
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.10.15 10:13:00 -
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Edited by: Raimo on 15/10/2010 10:15:09
Originally by: Raimo
Partially copypasting my post from the test server forum, and I have not read this thread but this needs to be voiced:
Approach and Align should be the same key shortcut for logical reasons (both are approaching the object, also the on screen button location)
Also, I haven't tested on SISI but read that align and warp default next to each other (A and S), this *will* get people killed, why not use A (approach *AND* align) and W (warp) (more logical as well?) (And swap S for orbit maybe)
And if it's true that CTRL- clicking also *unlocks* targets(devblog said "toggle" so it must be) it's probably one of the better CCP trolls ever, that should obviosly be changed as most people spam CTRL when acquiring targets, as well as misclick on already locked targets... Shift-click for unlock and keep CTRL just for lock or something?
Then there's this hilarious bit that also supports something to be done to the approach key
Quote: I foresee a few accidents as pilots try to approach and lock a target at the same time (Ctrl+Q by default).
Quoting myself so I can at least say "told you so" if this stuff hits TQ
ofc I understand defaults are defaults but having to redo them always is a drag - hence:
- swap orbit for S and warp for W
- combine Align and Approach to A, to the same keyboard location like they are in the on-screen buttons (and don't use Q in the defaults at all, CTRL-Q yeah?)
- remove "toggle" from CTRL-targeting, add Shift- or Alt- clicking for "unlock" (Try some actual PVP, especially fast paced small gang stuff if you need to ask why)
If these obvious errors are fixed it is probably going to be a great feature so thanks.
_ ---------- www.eve-arena.com
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Killerhound
Caldari Free-Space-Ranger Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.10.15 10:16:00 -
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Most of the shortcuts are customizable anyway, so I'd say its a minor problem.
Things that would be awesome to have shortcuts for:
Create Bookmark of actual position - B Launch Specific Group of Drones (can be assigned for a group) - D Switch active target - S
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MissyDark
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Posted - 2010.10.15 10:25:00 -
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Oh my god, finally! I love you ccp. Incursion raids stuff is still a fail, but the hotkey revamp is like invention of slice bread - a huge thing.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.10.15 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: MissyDark So... how about WSAD to fly the ship manually? :D
They're now tied up to Orbit, Approach, Warp to and Dock, respectivelyà so close enough?
Originally by: Armoured C man cant wait to get a drone shortcut for attacking and reurning to cargo hold.
? Why wait? They're in the game already. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
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CCP Optimal
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Posted - 2010.10.15 10:55:00 -
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There is no need to worry about the new toggle target lock functionality, since it will only unlock the target if you have finished locking, so spam clicking while targeting will not unlock.
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Raimo
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.10.15 11:24:00 -
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Edited by: Raimo on 15/10/2010 11:34:42
Originally by: CCP Optimal There is no need to worry about the new toggle target lock functionality, since it will only unlock the target if you have finished locking, so spam clicking while targeting will not unlock.
Still unacceptable, sorry.
PVP is hectic, misclicks are common and spamming CTRL-click a bit too long after acquiring lock a certainty, so it *IS* something to worry about.
Please revise this design decision or at least make it a preference between lock/unlock toggle and just locking!
(At least I personally rarely unlock stuff manually, either someone pops or gets out of range - I can see the benefit for logistics pilots or big fleets switching targets but it definitely should be a toggle or preferably 2 separate modifier keys) ---------- www.eve-arena.com
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Tankamos
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Posted - 2010.10.15 11:25:00 -
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Since we're on the whole shortcut issue, I would love to see a system to bring up the tag menu.
Let me explain: In wormholes, and in the coming incursion, the ability to tag ships quickly can certainly mean the difference between a tight, and a too tight fit. (See what I did there )
So say in a wormhole I want to tag all sleeper Keeper ships because they have RR, I would then press the assigned tag-shortcut (ie. CTRL-T, or maybe just T) and then the key/character I want to that that ship with.
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8tone
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Posted - 2010.10.15 11:37:00 -
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Please put bookmarks to overview, i would like to use new keyboard shortcuts on selected bookmark.
Also i would like to have up to 10 or more shortcuts to select overview objects(bookmarks/planet/ship/can/wreck and etc...).
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MissyDark
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Posted - 2010.10.15 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: MissyDark So... how about WSAD to fly the ship manually? :D
They're now tied up to Orbit, Approach, Warp to and Dock, respectivelyà so close enough?
Actually pretty much it is. I just imagined flying a ceptor with WSAD - cool thing. Although I have second thoughts about the concept - it doesn't work that well in star trek online.
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fuckfacemillionare
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Posted - 2010.10.15 12:06:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Optimal There is no need to worry about the new toggle target lock functionality, since it will only unlock the target if you have finished locking, so spam clicking while targeting will not unlock.
This will be really terrible if there is no option to disable it, or to make it like Raimo said. Please reconsider this for the sake of small gang and solo PVP. If you have not done extensive small gang or solo PVP, please reconsider saying it won't be a problem when you have no idea whether or not it will be.
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Raimo
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.10.15 12:17:00 -
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Originally by: ****facemillionare
Originally by: CCP Optimal There is no need to worry about the new toggle target lock functionality, since it will only unlock the target if you have finished locking, so spam clicking while targeting will not unlock.
This will be really terrible if there is no option to disable it, or to make it like Raimo said. Please reconsider this for the sake of small gang and solo PVP. If you have not done extensive small gang or solo PVP, please reconsider saying it won't be a problem when you have no idea whether or not it will be.
That's the spirit!
[bittervet OT]
Sometimes I wish the devs understood what many players have understood over the years:
Empire building and huge space battles makes for great marketing and can be fun for a while (longer for the people calling the shots)...
But EVE in solo/ small gang PVP mode is one of the best computer games ever made, or it used to be... It is indeed getting nerfs regularly, and has been for years. Sadly not too many buffs recently, or incentives for newer players to attempt it.
[/bittervet OT] ---------- www.eve-arena.com
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