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WMunny
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Posted - 2010.10.26 21:43:00 -
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Has a list of the richest characters ever been released?
Would be interesting to know the spread of wealth amongst characters.
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Hamatitio
Caldari Dead poets society The Laughing Men
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Posted - 2010.10.26 21:45:00 -
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I think like 4 years ago they released a few cool details in an eon magazine.
IE, corporation with the most skillpoints per character, person with the most isk in the wallet.
I believe it was tyrrax?
Originally by: Forrest Gump
And that's all I got to say 'bout that.
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Cat o'Ninetails
Caldari Rancer Defence League
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Posted - 2010.10.26 22:05:00 -
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i am rich in spirit lol \o/
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Antihrist Pripravnik
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.10.26 22:49:00 -
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Not a complete list, but still it's somewhat reliable http://eveboard.com/fullranks/47-most-isk
for other statistical goodies: http://eveboard.com/statistics
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Cat IntheBox
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Posted - 2010.10.26 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Antihrist Pripravnik Not a complete list, but still it's somewhat reliable http://eveboard.com/fullranks/47-most-isk
for other statistical goodies: http://eveboard.com/statistics
first list must be personal wallets, b/c certain CEOs&partnerships are supposed to be worth liquid/illiquid assets in the trillions.
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Antihrist Pripravnik
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.10.26 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Cat IntheBox first list must be personal wallets, b/c certain CEOs&partnerships are supposed to be worth liquid/illiquid assets in the trillions.
Yes it is. eveboard is Chribba's service for linking character sheets if you want to sell a character. It's fetched through API and shows ISK ammount of every registered character.
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mechtech
SRS Industries SRS.
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Posted - 2010.10.26 23:09:00 -
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Most wealthy people don't keep too much isk liquid. You get there in the first place by understanding how to use isk.
Personally I do 1/3 unique stuff, 1/3 liquid, and 1/3 PLEX. In addition there are short and long term investment stockpiles, so liquid is probably only 1/5 of my NAV. I'm sure many others worth over 100B are the same way.
A good T2 BPO is worth 150-200B. The Opux Luxury Yacht would go for over 200B on auction I can guarantee. It's harder to calculate wealth than you might think.
The most liquid isk will be some guy in control of alliance/power block funds, or isk sellers most likely. As for true wealth of a character? I'd guess the top character is for sure over 500B, and almost certainly over 1T in valued wealth, I'd wager 1.5-2T or so (not counting corp assets).
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Sig Sour
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Posted - 2010.10.26 23:51:00 -
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Most people have isk sunk into making more isk. I'm surprised at some names that have that much money they are not investing.
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Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.10.27 00:02:00 -
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I have no money. ~_~
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Adam Weishaup
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Posted - 2010.10.27 00:11:00 -
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so effectively, all this list gives us is some people's
"Apocalypse has arrived, time to GTFO" fund.
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Ash Donai
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Posted - 2010.10.27 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Antihrist Pripravnik Not a complete list, but still it's somewhat reliable http://eveboard.com/fullranks/47-most-isk
I wouldn't call this list reliable at all. The list only contains people who find that a public display of their wallet enlarges their epeen.
Depending on how long you have been playing the game it's fairly easy to come up with more ISK than most on that list have. I consider myself a casual earner and I'd rank above the fold (doesn't really matter where your fold is) on that list just in liquid ISK which makes me believe that this list is actually a very poor representation of the amounts of liquid ISK out there.
I would bet good money that there are hundreds of players with more than 20b in their personal wallets, and dozens of players with more than 100b liquid. There's 400 trillion ISK in circulation, at 700k toons (roughly to make the math easier) that would give every character about 550m, except that the overwhelming majority of players is so broke that they can't even afford insurance once they bought their ship.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.10.27 00:25:00 -
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Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 27/10/2010 00:27:48 I have a wealth of knowledge, which often makes me feel like this here.
My Warmest Regards. Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
Yonem
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Posted - 2010.10.27 00:26:00 -
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Originally by: Antihrist Pripravnik Not a complete list, but still it's somewhat reliable http://eveboard.com/fullranks/47-most-isk
for other statistical goodies: http://eveboard.com/statistics
Go to page 3 on the first link:
Queen Osaka has -29,885,767,958.00
How the hell do you get 29 billion in the hole? --- Adventures of a Planetologist http://eveboard.com/pilot/Yonem |
Adam Weishaup
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Posted - 2010.10.27 00:30:00 -
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Edited by: Adam Weishaup on 27/10/2010 00:31:42
Originally by: Yonem
Originally by: Antihrist Pripravnik Not a complete list, but still it's somewhat reliable http://eveboard.com/fullranks/47-most-isk
for other statistical goodies: http://eveboard.com/statistics
Go to page 3 on the first link:
Queen Osaka has -29,885,767,958.00
How the hell do you get 29 billion in the hole?
as a complex counter-party to a derivative?
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Ash Donai
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Posted - 2010.10.27 00:33:00 -
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Originally by: Yonem Queen Osaka has -29,885,767,958.00
How the hell do you get 29 billion in the hole?
You buy ISK for RL cash from the macro-mining/ratting dudes (or you exploit reactions, etc.) and CCP takes it away from you which leaves you with negative ISK. |
HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.10.27 01:13:00 -
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Originally by: WMunny Would be interesting to know the spread of wealth amongst characters.
I bet it would.
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Claymore Rhade
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Posted - 2010.10.27 02:35:00 -
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That top 47 was a sad list :( . Plus it only show people who are on eveboard which normally are people who wanna show off and sell. I know people with 5 tril plus easy in assets and 500b+ in isk.
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Bhattran
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Posted - 2010.10.27 02:47:00 -
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I doubt the richest of EVE would want their characters' wallets public without their choice, I certainly wouldn't want my data published like that.
Asking CCP to list the top x 'fortunes' without associating character names however isn't the same but who knows if they'd bother with such a request.
As far as eveboard why would people think those with x billion/trillions/etc want everyone to know how much they have especially those from the moon goo times or who steal from their corp/alliance/pets/slaves. The people sharing their data do it for any number of reasons not all of which are 'oh look at me' or 'i want to sell this character' just as people don't share their data for many reasons.
I would be interested to know how much isk RMT accounts that get banned/shutdown have in their wallet when CCP gets them though.
--Submit your bug reports via mental telepathy this will streamline CCP ignoring them.-- |
Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.10.27 02:50:00 -
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Actually just checked the list there, and i expected people to have broken the trillion mark. You're all slacking.
My Warmest Regards. Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
Jovan Geldon
Gallente Lead Farmers
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Posted - 2010.10.27 03:19:00 -
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Originally by: Antihrist Pripravnik Not a complete list, but still it's somewhat reliable http://eveboard.com/fullranks/47-most-isk
for other statistical goodies: http://eveboard.com/statistics
BS. I have about 450 mil and I can guarantee that it doesn't make me the 550th richest player in EVE
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Bhattran
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Posted - 2010.10.27 03:23:00 -
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Originally by: Jovan Geldon
Originally by: Antihrist Pripravnik Not a complete list, but still it's somewhat reliable http://eveboard.com/fullranks/47-most-isk
for other statistical goodies: http://eveboard.com/statistics
BS. I have about 450 mil and I can guarantee that it doesn't make me the 550th richest player in EVE
It isn't BS it makes you the 550th richest player in EVE who decided to share that information on eveboard a 3rd party site run by Chribba( a player) who has made several EVE related sites to make players lives easier. If you bother to use something you might want to inform yourself about what it is and how it works.
--Submit your bug reports via mental telepathy this will streamline CCP ignoring them.-- |
Jovan Geldon
Gallente Lead Farmers
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Posted - 2010.10.27 03:27:00 -
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Originally by: Bhattran
Originally by: Jovan Geldon
Originally by: Antihrist Pripravnik Not a complete list, but still it's somewhat reliable http://eveboard.com/fullranks/47-most-isk
for other statistical goodies: http://eveboard.com/statistics
BS. I have about 450 mil and I can guarantee that it doesn't make me the 550th richest player in EVE
It isn't BS it makes you the 550th richest player in EVE who decided to share that information on eveboard a 3rd party site run by Chribba( a player) who has made several EVE related sites to make players lives easier. If you bother to use something you might want to inform yourself about what it is and how it works.
In which case Originally by: Antihrist Pripravnik somewhat reliable
wouldn't be true, would it? One would almost call it...bull****...
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T'Amber
Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.10.27 06:17:00 -
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That list isn't even close to a fair representation of the richest players. Sadly this is something that would be extremely hard to quantify in reality, as some of the posters above have pointed out.
Atleast 6 players that I know personally have multiple trillions of isk or more in liquid isk, assets, bpos and business.
So the answer to the op is, no. But there has been some basic information released for the spread of wealth.
THANKS FOR ALL THE FISH!
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Mme Pinkerton
United Engineering Services
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Posted - 2010.10.27 08:25:00 -
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Originally by: Adam Weishaup as a complex counter-party to a derivative?
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.10.27 08:43:00 -
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Originally by: Adam Weishaup so effectively, all this list gives us is some people's
"Apocalypse has arrived, time to GTFO" fund.
Pretty much. That or, as in my case, the "how much am I willing to spend in Jita drunk" buffer ù keeping the real money safe in the corp wallet (because, trust me, that "buy for corp" checkbox is pretty darn hard to hit when you're not seeing straight). ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Mr Bussy
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Posted - 2010.10.27 09:15:00 -
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Originally by: Adam Weishaup Edited by: Adam Weishaup on 27/10/2010 00:31:42
Originally by: Yonem
Originally by: Antihrist Pripravnik Not a complete list, but still it's somewhat reliable http://eveboard.com/fullranks/47-most-isk
for other statistical goodies: http://eveboard.com/statistics
Go to page 3 on the first link:
Queen Osaka has -29,885,767,958.00
How the hell do you get 29 billion in the hole?
as a complex counter-party to a derivative?
it is *secret* bug. When you move to negative wallet spectrum, then you have actually infinite ammount of ISK available so you can buy anything, anywhere... and of course anytime. You do not even need any WH effects for that...
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WMunny
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Posted - 2010.10.27 11:01:00 -
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Many thanks to the contributions. As a newbie I was just after some basic information - "how rich is rich?", etc.
Economically the answer is important too. What it the value of ISK, in gameplay terms? Is there really any point spending countless hours running missions/mining/trading just to earn a 10mill, when in actual fact that money is completely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things? It appears to me (with my very limited knowledge) that 90% of the players are scrapping for 10% of the wealth. Does it mirror real life? Probably. But in real life people die and wealth is redistributed. But in EVE those at the top can never be replaced. I find it a little depressing, actually. Is that too pessimistic?
If New Eden were a country, it would be Zimbabwe, and ISK would be Zimbabwean Dollars. Worthless.
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WMunny
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Posted - 2010.10.27 11:05:00 -
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I have created a new thread to argue this separate point.
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Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.10.27 11:07:00 -
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It's only worth aquiring more money if you actually need it. There are many ways isk flows into this game and the amount of supercaps being deployed just goes to show how easy it is to attain anything you need to.
Any individuals isk, be it in the trillions or not, hardly registers as a loss in the economy if they were never to log in again. ~_~
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Surogate
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Posted - 2010.10.27 11:20:00 -
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Edited by: Surogate on 27/10/2010 11:22:06 It is virtually impossible to accurately figure out which 'character' has the most. I think most long term players have more than one account and therefore more than one 'character'.
I think the most wealthy players are probably the builders and traders, these guys usually have multiple accounts, end up in alliance leadership possitions for their logistical magic, they run the moon jew sales and trading, or the cap replacement programs.
There are also alot of character who do very little ingame but trade or scam (millia from rens im looking at you), these guys tend to have alot of action going with full trade skills. I've heard of some with in excess of 10 accounts all with trading toons
Then you have the players who are rich in rl, those who seam able to crash plex markets for super cap replacements, their ingame wealth is distorted by their ability to just buy isk.
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