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Shantheor
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Posted - 2010.11.02 15:55:00 -
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My segment of our corp lives in a WH. We were visited by a hound recently who decided to camp our WH for a week or so. After multiple engagements that ended in a draw, we are wondering the best tactics and ships to use to trap and kill a Hound.
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Mr Jinggles
Iron-Sky DEM0N HUNTERS
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Posted - 2010.11.02 16:05:00 -
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Light drones and dampeners.
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Gallactica
Gallente Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2010.11.02 16:06:00 -
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Arty Cane - 1 volley = instapopped
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nasty1
Minmatar T.R.I.A.D
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Posted - 2010.11.02 16:08:00 -
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yea shoot it .....T.R.I.A.D..... |
Mutant Caldari
Caldari Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.11.02 16:31:00 -
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Sneeze in it's general direction? Yeah I am a pirate. What are you gonna do about it? Killboard link is not allowed to be used in a signature.Applebabe
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Mr Jinggles
Iron-Sky DEM0N HUNTERS
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Posted - 2010.11.02 16:37:00 -
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Large rails etc won't be able to hit it.
But medium arty's/rails win.
Light drones put SB's in the ground.
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Intigo
Amarr Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.11.02 17:06:00 -
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Park a Stealth Bomber of your own with small ACs / lasers / blasters next to a ratting bait Dominix.
Wait for Stealth Bomber to decloak to kill said Dominix.
Kill it with your SB.
So hard! ___________________
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Shantheor
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Posted - 2010.11.02 17:14:00 -
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thank you for suggestions.
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Cameron Freerunner
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Posted - 2010.11.02 18:56:00 -
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Edited by: Cameron Freerunner on 02/11/2010 19:00:08 Cloaked bubble shooters FTW. With instalock the bomber can't recloak and now has to make it out of the bubble. Throw in points on your bait ship or another assist ship (like cloaked recon) once you close in on it and its dead.
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Arthello
D00M. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2010.11.03 11:19:00 -
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Dude just kill it in the face. Seriously...
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Hidden Snake
Caldari Inglorious-Basterds Caldari Defence Initiative
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Posted - 2010.11.03 11:55:00 -
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Edited by: Hidden Snake on 03/11/2010 11:57:53
Originally by: Gallactica Arty Cane - 1 volley = instapopped
this + dont use cruisers, if he is bomb fitted, they can die (even some reckons can be bombed to death). HMHLs drakes can do some funny things to SBs.
Originally by: Intigo Park a Stealth Bomber of your own with small ACs / lasers / blasters next to a ratting bait Dominix.
Wait for Stealth Bomber to decloak to kill said Dominix.
Kill it with your SB.
So hard!
can work too, but be careful if enemy will start attack with bomb run.
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helmut cheddar
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Posted - 2010.11.03 12:18:00 -
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Edited by: helmut cheddar on 03/11/2010 12:20:23
Originally by: Intigo Park a Stealth Bomber of your own with small ACs / lasers / blasters next to a ratting bait Dominix.
Wait for Stealth Bomber to decloak to kill said Dominix.
Kill it with your SB.
So hard!
Can vouch for the fact that this works, funny as **** to decloak next to SB in ur own SB and have him melt in seconds to ur TURRETS lol :P
EDIT make sure you fit scram / web and AB to prevent escape
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Diesel47
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Posted - 2010.11.03 12:35:00 -
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Medium Rails or Arts, 1. lock on 2. shoot.
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Ginlene
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Posted - 2010.11.03 15:22:00 -
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Smartbombs.. No need to lock, and cloaking doesn't help them.
But a good counter if you can't get in range is just another small cloaky ship.
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Mutant Caldari
Caldari Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.11.03 15:26:00 -
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Edited by: Mutant Caldari on 03/11/2010 15:28:20
Originally by: Hidden Snake Edited by: Hidden Snake on 03/11/2010 11:57:53
Originally by: Gallactica Arty Cane - 1 volley = instapopped
this + dont use cruisers, if he is bomb fitted, they can die (even some reckons can be bombed to death). HMHLs drakes can do some funny things to SBs.
Originally by: Intigo Park a Stealth Bomber of your own with small ACs / lasers / blasters next to a ratting bait Dominix.
Wait for Stealth Bomber to decloak to kill said Dominix.
Kill it with your SB.
So hard!
can work too, but be careful if enemy will start attack with bomb run.
I knew your fits were terribad but if you are getting 1 volleyed by a bomb in ANY cruiser, you are extremely fail fit and need to reevaluate your career in Eve. May I suggest high sec mining in a Procurer? Yeah I am a pirate. What are you gonna do about it? Killboard link is not allowed to be used in a signature.Applebabe
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Hidden Snake
Caldari Inglorious-Basterds Caldari Defence Initiative
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Posted - 2010.11.03 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Mutant Caldari Edited by: Mutant Caldari on 03/11/2010 15:28:20
Originally by: Hidden Snake Edited by: Hidden Snake on 03/11/2010 11:57:53
Originally by: Gallactica Arty Cane - 1 volley = instapopped
this + dont use cruisers, if he is bomb fitted, they can die (even some reckons can be bombed to death). HMHLs drakes can do some funny things to SBs.
Originally by: Intigo Park a Stealth Bomber of your own with small ACs / lasers / blasters next to a ratting bait Dominix.
Wait for Stealth Bomber to decloak to kill said Dominix.
Kill it with your SB.
So hard!
can work too, but be careful if enemy will start attack with bomb run.
I knew your fits were terribad but if you are getting 1 volleyed by a bomb in ANY cruiser, you are extremely fail fit and need to reevaluate your career in Eve. May I suggest high sec mining in a Procurer?
please keep this on logical level (for emos we have other places) ... ofc u will not get instabombed in ok fit, but bomb can tear of significant part of ur buffer so torps can cause u serious problems (especially if u sit in something like blasterfit thorax). I died twice to bombing run in absolutely super normal 1600 mm plate vexor with my alt which cannot use the warriors 2 yet (5 mil sp toon) - the hound and second time manti were just too fast and my neuts or blasters were not able to catch him.
rupture/staber might survive though, but i am not 100% sure as my main hounds are faster then my stabbers.
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Kahega Amielden
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.11.03 16:28:00 -
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Edited by: Kahega Amielden on 03/11/2010 16:32:47
Cruisers do not fear bombers, end of story. If they have enough bombers to pop a properly-fit cruiser, they could pop a battlecruiser (as low sig radius reduces damage). Any sort of long-range sniper cruiser or BC (both work fine) will ruin any bombers. Fit sensor boosters with scan res scripts.
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Ar Zor
Jupiter Force
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Posted - 2010.11.09 14:35:00 -
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Shoot it once?
If baiting with a separate ship, make the killing ship an interceptor. Bait with whatever he attacked before.
If using the same ship for baiting and killing, set up a battleship with medium long-range weapons, light drones, and a heavy neut.
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horis hurbunker
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Posted - 2010.11.09 14:56:00 -
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Get some sensor boosters for insta lock and use a hurricane or destroyer with an an
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KrustyKrab
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2010.11.10 10:35:00 -
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T2 artillery thrasher with 2 sensor boosters + scripts = almost instalock on a bomber and pop him before his bomb explodes. Good trick I learned doing some of the Agony Unleashed pvp classes. Plus a Thrasher won't die to a single bomb unless it has a mwd active, but Thrasher gets decent targeting range, pretty awesome alpha, and even pulling one of the scripts will still net you high scan res and even better target range.
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Roosterton
Unlawful Combatants
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Posted - 2010.11.10 23:19:00 -
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Originally by: Intigo Park a Stealth Bomber of your own with small ACs / lasers / blasters next to a ratting bait Dominix.
Wait for Stealth Bomber to decloak to kill said Dominix.
Kill it with your SB.
So hard!
Use a BattleHelios/Covops of your choice for even more LOLfactor. -------- Enemy corps raided into disbandment: Three.
Originally by: Tarminic
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Borg Stoneson
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Posted - 2010.11.11 00:46:00 -
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It's a stealth bomber, just shoot it, medium turrets and precision heavy missiles work well.
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Kraschyn Thek'athor
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Posted - 2010.11.11 02:18:00 -
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Overtanked BS, passive targeting system. If he see you targeting him, he will get into cloak for a few seconds to break targeting and reducing your targeting with his remote sensor dampener. Pretend that you have not seen him with an passive targeter.
Easiest and classic. Bait + cloaked recon with tons of scan resolution Bait + Thrasher in same fleet, Thrasher offgrid but aligned
No Bomberpilot worth his salt will ever attack an destroyer.
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Baneken
Gallente School of the Unseen
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Posted - 2010.11.11 06:13:00 -
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Only problem with a bomber is getting your point to reach +30km before the bomber warps off a cloaked Arazu would be ideal but failing that SEBO's and medium AC's should do the trick.
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Dr Evader
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Posted - 2010.11.11 13:36:00 -
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"Best tactics to kill a Stealth Bomber" Weapons man, Weapons!
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Boreesh
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Posted - 2010.11.11 18:56:00 -
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Honestly it's a WH.
I'll assume if it's the standard deal he's waiting for your savager to come through a site then attacking it? If that's the case, and you know he's around (add contact). then get out there with a Explosive hardener, T2 point, and 2 standard missile launchers on your salvage dessie. If he takes the bait, tackle and shoot back. OR cloak a SB beside your dessie.
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Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service
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Posted - 2010.11.12 01:35:00 -
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Can't believe I am saying this, but Arazu is your best choice. Sit cloaked 20-30km above/below your ratting bait. Load with 200/250mm Rails, MWD, Shield/Speed Tank, Light Drones, Long Point & Scram. Normally I hate the Arazu, but it would make a good SB killer.
Taxman IX: Risky Venture
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Terminal Insanity
Minmatar Foundation
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Posted - 2010.11.12 02:17:00 -
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i highly recommend the gun fitted 'bomber' as a counter, it guarentees win over other 'real' bombers.
My favorite trick, is anchor a small warp bubble, drop a cyno beacon in the middle of it and launch your drones.... cant go wrong really =p
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Lord Zekk
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2010.11.12 08:44:00 -
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While everyone has had some good advice. It's really not about what you bring to kill the bomber. Pretty much anything in eve can kill a bomber. Hell your hulk could probably kill a bomber.
It's about tactics. A SB has the advantage of checking out the situation before he engages. He can look for backup. He can hide and wait. He choose not to engage. These are what make smart SB pilots deadly and very tough to kill.
No sane SB pilot will decloak when there is an arty boat on the field. He just need to "look at" your guns to know if you have arties fit.
It's about tactics. You have to get him to engage you when you want him to. Sometimes it can take a while before he takes the bait. A lot of the time you will not be able to catch him. Even if you come close to killing him a few times he will probably decide trying to kill you is a bad idea.
The Domi trap is a good idea. Having another SB there to decloak and lock him is another good idea. Maybe even fit it with a faction point and overheat the point to point the SB back. Have a few SBs scattered around your bait ship with this setup. That way no matter what direction he comes in from you can catch him. Once an BS is pointed all you really need to do is sneeze in it's direction to kill it as someone already mentioned.
Good luck.
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Cpt Smasher
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Posted - 2010.11.12 18:42:00 -
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Heavy pulse Shield fit harbinger will volley them with good gun skills and scorch. 3x Heat sink 1x TE. Lol Or 2 volley with 425s and barrage. Ofcourse 3x gyro 2x TE on the cane.
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