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Miko Nguyen	Posted - 2010.11.07 22:16:00 - [1] Myrmidon or Brutix to to solo sleepers in C2 and C3? And what's a proper fit to do so?
Sangeli Gallente Space Explorations and Excavations Majesta Frontier Alliance	Posted - 2010.11.07 22:46:00 - [2] myrmidon and i dun hav fit
Worgen Fratmon Minmatar Instapop Industries death from above..	Posted - 2010.11.07 23:37:00 - [3] Enjoy replacing your BC if you attempt to solo C3 sites. BS minimum to solo C3s, the sleepers can deal out enough damage to pop a BC in under 10 secs in many sights.
Zindela Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2010.11.08 03:21:00 - [4] Originally by: Worgen Fratmon Enjoy replacing your BC if you attempt to solo C3 sites. BS minimum to solo C3s, the sleepers can deal out enough damage to pop a BC in under 10 secs in many sights. Not true in the slightest. I've easily soloed C3 combat sites in a Drake, with a C3 Wolf Rayet to boot. For those who don't know, the Wolf Rayet in a C3 is a static -22% to shield resistances. Granted I didn't kill things very quickly, but was able to clear it. I was forced to warp out of a Radar site due to shields failing, but it took a few minutes before the sleepers wore me down enough. Without the Wolf Rayet, I'm pretty sure that I would have been able to clear it too. I would recommend that whatever ship you bring, make sure that it has a 650+ dps tank for standard combat sites, and probably around 800+ dps for Radars. ------------------- "Do you know what the chain of command is here? It's the chain I get and beat you with until you understand who's in rutting command here!" -Jayne
Worgen Fratmon Minmatar Instapop Industries death from above..	Posted - 2010.11.08 03:26:00 - [5] Originally by: Zindela Originally by: Worgen Fratmon Enjoy replacing your BC if you attempt to solo C3 sites. BS minimum to solo C3s, the sleepers can deal out enough damage to pop a BC in under 10 secs in many sights. Not true in the slightest. I've easily soloed C3 combat sites in a Drake, with a C3 Wolf Rayet to boot. For those who don't know, the Wolf Rayet in a C3 is a static -22% to shield resistances. Granted I didn't kill things very quickly, but was able to clear it. I was forced to warp out of a Radar site due to shields failing, but it took a few minutes before the sleepers wore me down enough. Without the Wolf Rayet, I'm pretty sure that I would have been able to clear it too. I would recommend that whatever ship you bring, make sure that it has a 650+ dps tank for standard combat sites, and probably around 800+ dps for Radars. Ok, the OP drake can handle C3 with great skills. Can you do it in a Gallente BC? Or recomend it?
Zindela Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2010.11.08 03:47:00 - [6] All you said was "You'll lose a BC if you use one." I stated that that generalization is wrong. As for Gallente BCs, The Myrmidon would be the best bet, but I can't really recommend either of them. The fits that I have for the Myrm both rely heavily on Drone DPS, and Sleepers eat drones like candy. The only Armour tanking Myrm that I could get close, was a triple-rep setup, which only tanked 432 with my skills(which are pretty good), and 470 at All 5s. I also made a passive shield Myrm, which could feasibly tank, but I would bring a second character/friend for DPS. But then you're not solo, and your tanking options are greatly increased due to RR and all. The Passive shield fit tanks 730 omni, with my skills, and 825 at All 5s. Note that all of these are using T2 fits. With faction/deadspace I'm sure you could get a Myrm to work well enough, but then you may as well use a BS for better price/performance ratio. Here's the passive shield Myrm: [Myrmidon, Passive Shield] Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II Invulnerability Field II 650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Hammerhead II x5 Cap lasts 45min, Artillery because Hybrids drain cap, and the Myrm doesn't have gun bonuses, and AC's won't be able to hit much of anything. Tanks 730 omni, deals 311 with my skills. I wouldn't recommend it for C3s. C2s, maybe; drop some of the tank, and go for more damage. To the OP: To be quite honest, I wouldn't recommend any BC for C3s. While I maintain that it IS possible, you'll get better ISK/hr running missions. If you want to use a BC, train for a Drake. You'll need the same skills for a Passive shield Myrm (the only Myrm for a C3), and the Drake will do more DPS, while not relying on Drones. Bring lots of missiles. ------------------- "Do you know what the chain of command is here? It's the chain I get and beat you with until you understand who's in rutting command here!" -Jayne
Mr Jebidea	Posted - 2010.11.08 03:48:00 - [7] I am not really sure, but I would say Brutix. Sleepers have a nasty tendency to kill drones very quickly.
Miko Nguyen	Posted - 2010.11.08 05:30:00 - [8] Edited by: Miko Nguyen on 08/11/2010 05:31:51 thanks for the advice. So how bout this; In a c3, we have 2 BCs. One of us will simply remote rep or some combination there of. But it sounds like a C2 is doable in a Brutix (my preference). Oh, I also intend to hack the radar site so I hope a codebreaker won't gimp my fitting in either classes.
Alaik Northstar Exploration	Posted - 2010.11.08 08:17:00 - [9] Originally by: Miko Nguyen Edited by: Miko Nguyen on 08/11/2010 05:31:51 thanks for the advice. So how bout this; In a c3, we have 2 BCs. One of us will simply remote rep or some combination there of. But it sounds like a C2 is doable in a Brutix (my preference). Oh, I also intend to hack the radar site so I hope a codebreaker won't gimp my fitting in either classes. Sleepers will switch aggro between you. Both ships must be tanked. I am a Gallente pilot, and I found I could not properly deal DPS in an adequately tanked myrm compared to my comrades blasting through things in their drakes. It's just not balanced currently, so take advantage of it. I retrained to Caldari ships and missiles, and have not regreted it. My drake performs wonderfully in WHs, the raven speeds through level 4 missions faster than my mega could ever do so (large hybrid turrets tracking just sucks) and I am sure the Golem will blow the Kronos away when I get into one next month. Not to mention the excellent tengu, which performs brilliantly in both WHs and missions, unlike the niche proteus which is better suited to melted faces at point blank range... which is not ideal for PVE. Just take drakes, and an alt in a covops for probing/salvage/hacking etc. There's a good reason the drake is such a popular ship.
Cunane Gallente	Posted - 2010.11.08 12:39:00 - [10] We may have amazing k-space exploration capabilities when it comes to exploration thanks to drones, when it comes to wormholes we are on the other side of the spectrum, drones become a weakness, the tank can't hold up too well and hybrids drain cap suprisingly hard. The Brutix: The best non faction tank you can get out of it is around 300-325ish without using faction gear, you could try 3 reps but the sheer amount of cap charges you'd need to keep it running for just one site is insane. The DPS, being forced to use 200mm rails isn't good. 224dps with max skills, using hammerheads you get 382, but they won't last long so assume its 224. The Myrm: Better tank, but lower dps, again with two non faction reps your looking at around 400ish tank, with the opition to use 3 but again alot of cap charges will be needed to keep it going just for one site. Dps is worse, with drones it looks good at 374, with room for spares, but with those gone, your weighing in a measly 157 with 250mm's, of course you could also use Arties which ease up the cap but you'll only be doing 132 DPS, AC's and the myrms speed don't mix in wormholes. Both are far from great.

Miko Nguyen	Posted - 2010.11.08 17:06:00 - [11] Yeah, I'd love to switch to a drake but it's a major opportunity cost and time involved considering other stuff I want to train for. My preference really is to stick with Gallente. I'm okay with teaming up with someone in C2 but logistically, it can be hard to find a corpmate in/near my area hence the idea of soloing. Originally by: Alaik Originally by: Miko Nguyen Edited by: Miko Nguyen on 08/11/2010 05:31:51 thanks for the advice. So how bout this; In a c3, we have 2 BCs. One of us will simply remote rep or some combination there of. But it sounds like a C2 is doable in a Brutix (my preference). Oh, I also intend to hack the radar site so I hope a codebreaker won't gimp my fitting in either classes. Sleepers will switch aggro between you. Both ships must be tanked. I am a Gallente pilot, and I found I could not properly deal DPS in an adequately tanked myrm compared to my comrades blasting through things in their drakes. It's just not balanced currently, so take advantage of it. I retrained to Caldari ships and missiles, and have not regreted it. My drake performs wonderfully in WHs, the raven speeds through level 4 missions faster than my mega could ever do so (large hybrid turrets tracking just sucks) and I am sure the Golem will blow the Kronos away when I get into one next month. Not to mention the excellent tengu, which performs brilliantly in both WHs and missions, unlike the niche proteus which is better suited to melted faces at point blank range... which is not ideal for PVE. Just take drakes, and an alt in a covops for probing/salvage/hacking etc. There's a good reason the drake is such a popular ship.
heheheh Phoenix Club	Posted - 2010.11.08 17:32:00 - [12] Edited by: heheheh on 08/11/2010 17:33:15 Ive not tried it for years but does a passive shield tanked myrm still work well ? back in the day when it first came out it had an awsome passive shield tank thjat you could run level fours with. A dual rep armour tanked myrm will tank it but not being able to use drones to full effect will make it slow, Id just stick to c1 and c2 if your going solo Also in c2-c3 the sleepers can use neuts which will affect your tank, thats another reason i always passive shield tank in W space.
Alaik Northstar Exploration	Posted - 2010.11.08 19:08:00 - [13] Originally by: heheheh Edited by: heheheh on 08/11/2010 17:33:15 Ive not tried it for years but does a passive shield tanked myrm still work well ? back in the day when it first came out it had an awsome passive shield tank thjat you could run level fours with. A dual rep armour tanked myrm will tank it but not being able to use drones to full effect will make it slow, Id just stick to c1 and c2 if your going solo Also in c2-c3 the sleepers can use neuts which will affect your tank, thats another reason i always passive shield tank in W space. You can shield tank it, yeah, but the DPS isn't great.


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