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ceaon
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Posted - 2010.11.10 21:57:00 -
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i dont like that fact sansha will always fail no matter what they do they will fail
sansha should be allowed after a time to deploy structures in this systems and claim SOV, maybe even set some kind of outpost allowing player whit +5 standing whit sansha to dock inside work for them and get overpowered sansha implants, sansha ammo etc flying for the sansha and earn some LP points for killing ships on incursion sites if CCP will make this should be awesome
Originally by: CCP Adida The male thread was locked because the discussion turned into transsexuals and man boobs.
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Ceist Mashal
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Posted - 2010.11.10 22:00:00 -
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Originally by: Luke S
Quote: Incursions are full war assaults, treat them as such.
Damn their goes my 1 man 3 account fleet idea.
So you're telling me you didn't treat fighting sleepers as PvP encounters? Wow, some schooling is what you need.
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2010.11.10 22:00:00 -
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Incursion into stations for us ship spinning failboats, please.
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Linda Flamewalker
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Posted - 2010.11.10 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Dropbear
Originally by: Concerned Capsuleers Why can't we just be left alone?!
Because part of this is about Sansha's next target.
Meaning, it's you.
You're the next target.
Yeah forcing people to abandon missions, fleet up with someone you dont know to get ganked.. yeah i see that turning out well... where is that instant dock up and log out button again? what.. anyone wanting to quote me and go "you mad?!" or "harden up".. mm sure go ahead :) dont see the point of risking a miltu milion ship for what 25 mill? yeah not going to happen.
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Dark Drifter
Amarr Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.10 22:06:00 -
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. . . im totaly ecited by all this EPIX content (with reguard to killing the stragler in low/null sec.
i think the way concord rewards the players for compleating sites needs to be looked at.
i propse that the sansha rats drop special sansha tags (like she sleepers drops) and maby some new salvage.
it just seems to be stacked against the improvised fleets, (any majure aliance can easily flood an encounter site)
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Trebor Daehdoow
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Posted - 2010.11.10 22:06:00 -
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One thing that isn't made quite clear: will there be Sansha gate rats in hi-sec? And what about around stations? I can see how a Sansha Supercarrier camping the Jita 4-4 undock might make for what the Chinese call "interesting times".
Also, can you confirm that Incursions will spawn over downtime, so that players can confirm that an autopilot route is safe, without fear that the Sanshas will appear halfway through that 36 system freighter run.
Confessions of a Noob Starship Politician The most expensive free trip to Iceland you'll ever win!
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Ceist Mashal
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Posted - 2010.11.10 22:15:00 -
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Edited by: Ceist Mashal on 10/11/2010 22:15:04
Originally by: Linda Flamewalker
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
Originally by: Concerned Capsuleers Why can't we just be left alone?!
Because part of this is about Sansha's next target.
Meaning, it's you.
You're the next target.
Yeah forcing people to abandon missions, fleet up with someone you dont know to get ganked.. yeah i see that turning out well... where is that instant dock up and log out button again? what.. anyone wanting to quote me and go "you mad?!" or "harden up".. mm sure go ahead :) dont see the point of risking a miltu milion ship for what 25 mill? yeah not going to happen.
25million isk and 6k LP for Concord!!!!! I've been hoping for LP gain for concord to be applied to DEDs for ages and now they are awaiting me in incursion.
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Dlardrageth
ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.10 22:15:00 -
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Sounds pretty terrible all-in-all unless you are deeply into PvE. Nice forcing this stuff on the PvPers now, CCP, keep up the good work! Making PvP more unattractive one step at a time, right? Guess I will spend even more time in WoT than before...
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2010.11.10 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: dannyBOy16437
Originally by: Sertan Deras Edited by: Sertan Deras on 10/11/2010 16:01:00 CCP: Forcing players to deal with NPC incursions they couldn't care less about (because we have real players to fight, you see) in space they pay for.
Firstly people whine that CCP forces them into PvP situations.
Now people are wining about being forced into PvE situations.
Make your mind up.
This is exacttly why this is NOT "world of evecraft"
It's a whole new type of froced PvE that is very eve.
I was wondering how they would do it since they ****ed up factional warfare missions so bad. Actully factional warfare missions promised PvP too but that never happened... I hope this expansion works! the idea sounds great.
This is like WOW if WOW made raid happen in non-pvp zones where suddenly everyone is level 10 starts getting ganked by npcs and everyone is dying and rage quiting, and all the roads are camped with level 60s in the areas with level 5 missions :P
I love it so much.
SPEAKING OF WHICH!
Will all gates be camped? even in highsec? Can we get some NPC bubbles on those gates too please? PLEASE. I'm worried that the new NPCs will only show up where NPCs unused to be. I really hope they show up even on gates that normally have no NPCs. Traveling through incursion space should be like traveling through Ammar space when your in the minmatar militia. Meaning you can make it through, but the treat is very VERY visualizeable.
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kano donn
Right Ascension
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Posted - 2010.11.10 22:17:00 -
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oh dear god!
CPP <3 <3 <3
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egegergergsdgedgege
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Posted - 2010.11.10 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Dropbear
Originally by: Concerned Capsuleers Why can't we just be left alone?!
Because part of this is about Sansha's next target.
Meaning, it's you.
You're the next target.
Why do we need those stupid scripted events in a player driven sandbox mmo?!? I really dont get it. Is it really the new plan of CCP to convert eve into a theme park mmo?
I do not understand the logic of CCP. On the one hand you try to make the players independant of NPCs (e.g. pos fuel production since last expansion) but on the other hand you are adding more and more NPC dependant contant.
Why do we need invasions of rather stupid NPCs when we already hhave epic wars between player driven organisations?
This whole incursion thing fits into eve like a laser gun into the wild west movie.
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Matalino
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Posted - 2010.11.10 22:22:00 -
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Edited by: Matalino on 10/11/2010 22:24:53
Originally by: gfldex noob 1: can I fleet with you to take on the sansha? pirate 2: Don't forget to fit Tech2 gear, or faction if you don't have the skills. pirate 1: ofc honey, just warp to me, we are in the site already noob 1: OMGWTFWHEREAREYOUALLTHEMSASHAARESHOOTINGMEANDICANNOTWARPOUT pirate 1: *chuckle* pirate 2: *chuckle* pirate 3: *chuckle* noob 1: *BEEP*YOU! <endless_rant_in_local_for_the_next_10_minutes/>
This is exactly why incursion will not work for casual groups, even in high sec. You need to trust those that you fly with when your ship is on the line.
The incursion rats scram, jam and neut. I expect many tears from those who join up with unknown fleets.
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Nuxim
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Posted - 2010.11.10 22:22:00 -
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Judging by the amount of complaining, it seems CCP is going to be successful in shaking up Eve!
Incursions look awesome, personally I can't wait for my mission hub to be attacked!!!
What the hell is wrong with you people who don't like this?
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Master Akira
Child Head Injury and Laceration Doctors
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Posted - 2010.11.10 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Dropbear
Originally by: Concerned Capsuleers Why can't we just be left alone?!
Because part of this is about Sansha's next target.
Meaning, it's you.
You're the next target.
Hahaha awesome. Only CCP could **** off "elite peeveepeers" and mindless mission runners in a single move.
I'm liking this more and more <3
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Mr LaForge
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Posted - 2010.11.10 22:28:00 -
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Can CCP confirm the maximum armor/shield resistance reductions and also the maximum damage reductions for weapons?
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Lord Saradomin
Gallente Nex Exercitus IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.10 22:32:00 -
[196]
Forcing someone to do something about the "threat" due to system wide effects.
Very sandbox...
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wert668
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Posted - 2010.11.10 22:34:00 -
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We'll see
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Seriously Bored
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.11.10 22:37:00 -
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Originally by: egegergergsdgedgege
Why do we need invasions of rather stupid NPCs when we already hhave epic wars between player driven organisations?
Because they're trying to bring the epic nature of those to people who don't get the chance to experience them. In an interesting, violent, EVE-like way. I totally give kudos to CCP for being willing to use negative reinforcement to awesome effects. They have balls, and I hope it pays off.
As for the positive reinforcement end of it: did everyone gloss over the fact that you can get named capital modules with that CONCORD LP? Once the general populace wises up to the rewards, they'll be clamoring to get in on this.
Quote: This whole incursion thing fits into eve like a laser gun into the wild west movie.
Knights of Cydonia. Lasers in a wild west movie (music video, technically). It's goddamn awesome.
(On a side note: I always felt this Incursion thing should have been with Sleepers. They were built up as this scary alien race, and yet we're the invaders in all Wormhole scenarios. Really, Sleepers are as intimidating as the Pacifists of the Gandhi Nebula.)
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Prometheus09
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.11.10 22:38:00 -
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Quote: As such you will face NPC equivalent of logistics, stealth bombers, remote spider-repairing battleships, interceptors, command ships, EW platforms, and more.
So we can expect cloaking NPC and bombing runs? Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes.Applebabe |
Dmoney3788
THE DISC
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Posted - 2010.11.10 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: Linda Flamewalker
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
Originally by: Concerned Capsuleers Why can't we just be left alone?!
Because part of this is about Sansha's next target.
Meaning, it's you.
You're the next target.
Yeah forcing people to abandon missions, fleet up with someone you dont know to get ganked.. yeah i see that turning out well... where is that instant dock up and log out button again? what.. anyone wanting to quote me and go "you mad?!" or "harden up".. mm sure go ahead :) dont see the point of risking a miltu milion ship for what 25 mill? yeah not going to happen.
If someone ganks you in your hisec mission hub they get concorded.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2010.11.10 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Saradomin Forcing someone to do something about the "threat" due to system wide effects.
Very sandbox...
yes, yes it is very sandbox.
someone just took a dump in your corner of the sandbox, dos something about or move to another spot.
AKA punch of the **** out of him
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Shaalira D'arc
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Posted - 2010.11.10 22:45:00 -
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Highly disruptive non-player-character activities that sprawl across the map and fundamentally affect the battlespace?
Nice
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2010.11.10 22:45:00 -
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Edited by: MotherMoon on 10/11/2010 22:46:11 hey wait, those new NPCs will be spider tanking and such?
Will senor dampeners finally work on these NPCs? So that we can break the spider tank? or tracking disruptors? Or any of the other alliance tourney type tactics we see?
because I've been gone for a while but I remember a lot of mods not working on NPCs.
Another question. will the number of systems grow like an infection if not cleared up giving incentive to nearby systems to help out too? please say they will or everyone will just clear out. wouldn't it be awesome if incursions grew?
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Dmoney3788
THE DISC
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Posted - 2010.11.10 22:47:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Ytterbium
Sansha supercarrier: we need to apologize for the miscommunication about this ship class name, which created some confusion here. The ship players will be able to build from the blueprint copy is a faction version of a regular supercarrier, not a new ship class.
Whats the ETA on releasing detailed stats on this sansha supercarrier, and these named capital mods mentioned?
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TeaDaze
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Posted - 2010.11.10 22:48:00 -
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Originally by: Seriously Bored did everyone gloss over the fact that you can get named capital modules with that CONCORD LP? Once the general populace wises up to the rewards, they'll be clamoring to get in on this.
If the rewards are so great and the sites so much fun then why the need for system wide penalties to "encourage" people to take part
Also with the current state of supercapital proliferation the two things Eve didn't need are a faction supercarrier and named/faction capital mods to fit it out with...
I lost what remained of my faith in CCP when they started looking at facebook games and warcraft for inspiration (hey guys, the fact that people think this looks a bit like Wow isn't actually a complement. No matter what certain people in management think the majority of Eve players are here because Eve is not Wow!).
I liked it when CCP actually dared to be different instead of trying to replace the sand with concrete.
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Matalino
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Posted - 2010.11.10 22:48:00 -
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Originally by: Dmoney3788 If someone ganks you in your hisec mission hub they get concorded.
But if they let the sansha's do it, they can loot his wreck, kick the noob from the fleet, and collect the reward from CONCORD for a job well done.
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Kronossan
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.11.10 22:52:00 -
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..................................... seriously? _________________
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Mashie Saldana
Minmatar Veto Corp
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Posted - 2010.11.10 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon Another question. will the number of systems grow like an infection if not cleared up giving incentive to nearby systems to help out too? please say they will or everyone will just clear out. wouldn't it be awesome if incursions grew?
Unfortunately not, would have been spectacular for macro controlled 0.0 space if it did.
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Ranger 1
Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.11.10 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Matalino Edited by: Matalino on 10/11/2010 22:26:22
Originally by: gfldex noob 1: can I fleet with you to take on the sansha? pirate 2: Don't forget to fit Tech2 gear, or faction if you don't have the skills. pirate 1: ofc honey, just warp to me, we are in the site already noob 1: OMGWTFWHEREAREYOUALLTHEMSASHAARESHOOTINGMEMYCAPISGONEICANNOTGETATARGETLOCKANDICANNOTWARPOUT pirate 1: *chuckle* pirate 2: *chuckle* pirate 3: *chuckle* noob 1: *BEEP*YOU! <endless_rant_in_local_for_the_next_10_minutes/>
This is exactly why incursion will not work for casual groups, even in high sec. You need to trust those that you fly with when your ship is on the line.
The incursion rats scram, jam, web and neut. I expect many tears from those who join up with unknown fleets.
I think you (and apparently many others) are forgetting that if someone in your gang shoots you in high sec, they get Concorded.
Quote: Forcing someone to do something about the "threat" due to system wide effects.
Very sandbox...
You mean like the ones that have been in effect in wormholes since day one? The same effects that people say are the best and most challenging thing about fighting there?
Those effects dictate what ships you use and how you fit them, how you use them, whether it be for PVP or PVE. The Sansha system effects force you to decide if you want to participate, sit it out, continue as normal with greater challange and less reward, or move on to another area. If thats too much for you to handle, it won't be this expansions issue... it will be yours.
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King Rothgar
Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2010.11.10 22:56:00 -
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I see a 27 sided fight in a low sec system near me followed shortly by a node crash. This could be interesting from both a pvp and pve perspective but I hope CCP has committed to keeping the servers running. The low sec only side of the SC BPC will very likely result in some very large fights in systems given few server resources.
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