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CCP Ytterbium	Posted - 2010.11.11 16:16:00 - [1] As mentioned in the dev blog, low-sec incursions have a chance to drop a Sansha supercarrier blueprint copy. Below are overall stats for the ship in its current version. Blueprint: BILL OF MATERIALS: Capital armor plates: 55 Capital capacitor battery: 110 Capacital computer system: 220 Capital construction parts: 110 Capital corporate hangar bay: 220 Capital drone bay: 385 Capital jump drive: 220 Capital power generator: 55 Capital propulsion engine: 55 Capital sensor cluster: 220 Capital shield emitter: 220 Capital ship maintenance bay: 220 All other attributes are the same than on regular supercarrier blueprints. Ship: BONUSES: Special Ability: 30% to maximum jump range Can activate one extra Drone Control Unit Amarr Carrier Skill Bonuses: Can deploy 3 additional Fighters or Fighter Bombers per level Can fit 1 additional Warfare Link module per level Caldari Carrier Skill Bonuses: 50% bonus to Capital Energy and Shield transfer range per level 5% bonus to deployed Fighters or Fighter Bomber damage per level Role Bonuses: 99% reduction in CPU need for Warfare Link modules Can fit Projected Electronic Counter Measures 200% bonus to Fighter or Fighter Bomber control range Immune to all forms of Electronic Warfare ATTRIBUTES: Structure: Structure hitpoints: 560,000 Cargo capacity: 1,405 m3 Drone capacity: 250,000 m3 Drone bandwidth: 13,000 Mbit/sec Mass: 1,546,875,000 kg Volume: 62,000,000 m3 Inertia modifier: 0.04 Hull EM / EX / KIN / TH resistances: 0 % Armor: Armor hitpoints: 610,000 Armor EM / EX / KIN / TH resistances: 50 % / 20 % / 25 % / 35 % Shield: Shield hitpoints: 980,000 Shield recharge time: 39200s Shield EM / EX / KIN / TH resistances: 0 % / 50 % / 40 % / 20 % Capacitor: Capacity: 82,500 Recharge time: 5362.5s Targeting: Maximum targeting range: 184km Max locked targets: 6 Scan resolution: 45mm Radar sensor strength: 165 Signature radius: 11.87km Shared facilities: Same as any regular supercarrier Jump drive systems: Same as any regular supercarrier, uses helium isotopes Propulsion: 60 m/sec Ship warp speed: 1.5 AU/s FITTING: CPU: 950 Powergrid: 625,000 Calibration: 350 Low slots: 4 Med slots: 7 High slots: 7 Upgrade hardpoints: 3 PREREQUISITES: Primary skill required: Capital Ships level 1 Secondary skill required: Amarr Carrier level 3 Tertiary skill required: Caldari Carrier level 3 Quaternary skill required: Jump Drive Operation level 1

satansminer	Posted - 2010.11.11 16:24:00 - [2] PICS GO! (Btw This is extremely useful, Thankyou's :) )
Raivi Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.11.11 16:57:00 - [3] A supercarrier designed purely for solo ratting. Excellent. ---------------------------------------------
Sertan Deras Gallente Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2010.11.11 16:59:00 - [4] Edited by: Sertan Deras on 11/11/2010 17:05:30 So it's a shield tanking Nyx with extra jump range that requires you to train two carrier skills. Hmm. Why not just fly a Nyx?
Weaselior GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2010.11.11 17:04:00 - [5] This is a terrible ship and you should be ashamed of yourself for making it.
Barton Gilbert	Posted - 2010.11.11 17:06:00 - [6] Originally by: CCP Ytterbium Special Ability: 30% to maximum jump range HEY LOOK AT ME IM THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN MAKE THE JUMP
Ziro Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.11.11 17:08:00 - [7] Oh hey look, another shield tanker in a game of armor tankers. Get out CCP.
Weaselior GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2010.11.11 17:11:00 - [8] Reasons this is terrible: 1)Jump range bonus is useless because you go in alone 2)It splits the standard SC skills between two carrier skills, but adds nothing else: you must train up double the skills for no benefit 3)The extra dcu is a stupid bonus. 4)It has a bad tank It does nothing useful that any other supercarrier doesn't do better. I get that you wanted to not make it overly powerful but this might be worse than the Hel. This is a terrible ship. You should have found a niche that other supercarriers didn't really fill and make it fill that, while not being overly powerful in comparison, but the niche this currently possesses is "making it clear you have more money than brains".
Ziro Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.11.11 17:12:00 - [9] Originally by: Weaselior Reasons this is terrible: 1)Jump range bonus is useless because you go in alone You sound like a pretty big *****.
Sertan Deras Gallente Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2010.11.11 17:15:00 - [10] An extra DCU? Really CCP? I just read that... hint: No one outside of stupid empire pubbies and people who rat in their supercarrier uses DCU's.

Phoenus Caldari Reikoku IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.11.11 17:15:00 - [11] Originally by: Raivi A supercarrier designed purely for solo ratting. Excellent. Quoting truth.
Raivi Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.11.11 17:16:00 - [12] Since you guys have made the good choice to delay the incursion feature until it is ready I hold hope that you will also keep working on the design of this ship in the extra time. You're going to hear a lot of legitimate criticism from players that the design appears to lack focus. It's hard to find a role that it is designed to fill (except a anomaly ratter but I hope that isn't the main role you had in mind for a new supercarrier). The jump range bonus would be handy if your fleet was nothing but carriers and Sansha SCs, but that is going to be unrealistic in the eve environment, especially with a supercarrier that has such a weak tank compared to the others. In the vast majority of cases the jump range bonus will be a wasted bonus. There is also no Amarr flavour at all in the bonuses, with the Amarr carrier skill only giving the base bonuses that all supercarriers receive equally anyways. Putting those bonuses into a static role bonus and finding a real amarr carrier bonus would be a better choice. Giving it a Nyx sized drone bay is a good step, however that is a stat that all supercarriers should be given if possible. As it is, this is a ship that will be the most expensive supercarrier to produce thanks to the BPC, but will also be either the worst supercarrier or the second worst depending on your perspective. It won't see use in real pvp fleets and all of the demand will come from people who only intend to rat with it, which I fear will not provide enough demand to make use of the BPC supply. I am aware that these are just the current stats, so I am hopeful that the dev team will reconsider them before January. ---------------------------------------------
RahSun Ars ex Discordia Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2010.11.11 17:16:00 - [13] With the Angel SC be this underwhelming?
Buxaroo Gallente Reikoku IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.11.11 17:27:00 - [14] What scrub uses a DCU on their SC? EVERY SC pilot has smartbomb/neutralizer/remote reppers in their high slots, NOT a DCU. And in a PVE setting it's still a waste of space. Wow, you get an extra 5% over all damage by having one DCU. Big deal. The only people who will be flying this are ultra rich ratters with nothing to do with their time. And here I was expecting a unique ship that was going to fill a niche or create a new one. I am disappoint.
tasty food	Posted - 2010.11.11 17:29:00 - [15] Originally by: RahSun With the Angel SC be this underwhelming? My fingers are crossed for a kickin rad tracking bonus.
Bring Stabity	Posted - 2010.11.11 17:29:00 - [16] Please consider making it armor tanking, giving it an armor bonus, removing damage bonus, give it someone useful isntead of increased jump range (which is much less useful then you make it out to be) thanks!
Ntrails	Posted - 2010.11.11 17:31:00 - [17] Originally by: RahSun With the Angel SC be this underwhelming? No. The angel one will be ridiculously good, and all the others will be ****.
LegendaryFrog Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2010.11.11 17:32:00 - [18] Considering a big chunk of the incentive for running the incursion feature will be the bpc for this ship, it would be in your best interest to make this a ship that people will want to actually obtain. As it is now, it looks to be a more expensive supercarrier that does no one thing better than any other supercarrier (and a few things worse), that also happens to take a lot more time to train into.
Fuujin GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2010.11.11 17:32:00 - [19] Originally by: RahSun With the Angel SC be this underwhelming? Even more so, since it'll have actual Hel DNA. This ship is basically the Hel, without the remote-rep bonus.
mine mi	Posted - 2010.11.11 17:35:00 - [20] ò5% bonus to deployed Fighters or Fighter Bomber damage per level, is not a gallente bonus ?

L'Artest	Posted - 2010.11.11 17:37:00 - [21] Originally by: mine mi ò5% bonus to deployed Fighters or Fighter Bomber damage per level, is not a gallente bonus ? this is a ship for ratting, not combat but yes. this is bad
Leilani Solaris NibbleTek Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.11.11 17:39:00 - [22] More importantly, what's it going to be called?!
Fuujin GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2010.11.11 17:44:00 - [23] Originally by: Leilani Solaris More importantly, what's it going to be called?! "Sansha's Modified Expensive Lossmail"
guibio	Posted - 2010.11.11 17:46:00 - [24] Worst supercarier ever ...
Elm'o Minmatar Cursed Inc. Cursed Alliance	Posted - 2010.11.11 17:48:00 - [25] lol. a Hel, without the remote rep bonus, that will probably be 2x more expensive, and that needs cross training. Tell me it's at least the most beautiful supercarrier ever.
justin666	Posted - 2010.11.11 17:52:00 - [26] they should replace the dcu bonus with a super masssive neut bonus and have more hp tbh after all it is a faction super carrier......
Fuujin GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2010.11.11 17:52:00 - [27] Originally by: Elm'o lol. a Hel, without the remote rep bonus, that will probably be 2x more expensive, and that needs cross training. Tell me it's at least the most beautiful supercarrier ever. If that model that was leaked a while back is at all accurate, it not only has the stats of **, but it also literally looks like **. At least CCP's consistent!
Raivi Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.11.11 17:52:00 - [28] Originally by: Elm'o lol. a Hel, without the remote rep bonus, that will probably be 2x more expensive, and that needs cross training. Tell me it's at least the most beautiful supercarrier ever. Acquired taste at best imo. ---------------------------------------------
guibio	Posted - 2010.11.11 17:56:00 - [29] Originally by: Raivi Originally by: Elm'o lol. a Hel, without the remote rep bonus, that will probably be 2x more expensive, and that needs cross training. Tell me it's at least the most beautiful supercarrier ever. Acquired taste at best imo. I lol'd.
Sertan Deras Gallente Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2010.11.11 17:58:00 - [30] I hope that's fake, because it looks like a giant lumpy turd.



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