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Whar Target
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
27
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Posted - 2012.08.07 13:55:00 -
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I've read in a few threads that it is considered an exploit to anchor a POS on a moon in empire space, just to prevent other people from doing so. Is this only the case for high sec? What about low sec?
The reason I ask is because there was a system in low-sec where I was thinking about throwing up a POS. There were a few POS's up from inactive corps, two of which we destroyed. We didn't anchor anything on them right away because we still wanted to survey and find out which would be the best moon mins to offset fuel cost somewhat.
Another corp that is currently active in the system anchored large POS's on them almost immediately. They already have over 5 active POS's up in that system. They literally anchored large POS's on every single moon that did not already have one up, seemingly just to prevent anyone else from ever anchoring a POS there.
Is this something that can be petitioned or is that only for high-sec? I'd rather not waste my time knocking down large POS's if I don't have to. |
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
261
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Posted - 2012.08.07 13:57:00 -
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So you want CCP to get involved and knock down someones POS for you?
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |
Sarik Olecar
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
71
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Posted - 2012.08.07 13:58:00 -
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Its an exploit to squat on a moon in hisec? Well, I may have just saved myself a few wardecs... |
Whar Target
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
27
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Posted - 2012.08.07 13:59:00 -
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Jint Hikaru wrote:So you want CCP to get involved and knock down someones POS for you?
If you have no idea what I'm even talking about, why do you even reply?
I was asking about moon squatting and if it can be petitioned, or if that is only the case for high sec..
I don't give a sht to be honest, if I have to knock one down I'm going to take out one of the active ones with decent minerals. |
Doctor ForumAlt
Hedion University Amarr Empire
15
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Posted - 2012.08.07 14:01:00 -
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Sounds like a very grey area to me. How do you tell if they are squatting or just taking advantage of an open moon. Someone find where this is a possible exploit. I want to see it. |
highonpop
Void.Tech Fatal Ascension
185
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Posted - 2012.08.07 14:02:00 -
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From what I recall, its an exploit to anchor GSC's and such to hold a moon.
POS is okay. All I heard was Blah Blah Blah I'm a dirty *****... |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8918
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Posted - 2012.08.07 14:03:00 -
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Whar Target wrote:I've read in a few threads that it is considered an exploit to anchor a POS on a moon in empire space, just to prevent other people from doing s. It's not.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Whar Target
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
27
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Posted - 2012.08.07 14:05:00 -
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Doctor ForumAlt wrote: How do you tell if they are squatting or just taking advantage of an open moon. I would say they are squatting if they put up a tower and never put it online or anchor a single other structure. At that point they are not taking advantage of anything.
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Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
647
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Posted - 2012.08.07 14:07:00 -
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Whar Target wrote:Doctor ForumAlt wrote: How do you tell if they are squatting or just taking advantage of an open moon. I would say they are squatting if they put up a tower and never put it online or anchor a single other structure. At that point they are not taking advantage of anything.
PvP. Preventing you Vrom anchoring a Pos.
Hi, I'm CCP Arrow, I screwed up the.. ummm... |
Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1379
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Posted - 2012.08.07 14:08:00 -
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waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah |
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Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Dark Therapy
906
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Posted - 2012.08.07 14:08:00 -
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In lowsec, unlike hisec, corporations and alliances become very teritorial, it isnt sov fir sure, and there is no enforcing it but when an entity moves in and takes over tehy use any means necessary to prevent others from doing so too.
This is the way of lowsec and should not be changed. In fact it should be promoted and rewarded. Holding lowsec areas as your territory is hard and should be rewarded for those powerful enough to do so. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8920
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Posted - 2012.08.07 14:09:00 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:PvP. Preventing you Vrom anchoring a Pos. Worst. Backronym. Ever. -500 points. Ugh.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
2540
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Posted - 2012.08.07 14:09:00 -
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I don't see how that would be an exploit as you can either wardec them and shoot it or just shoot it. Claiming moons just to deny others the resource has never been a problem. It only becomes a problem, if they block you from deploying your tower and you have no gameplay way to remove that block.
I think the moon squatting "exploit" relates to highsec where you could be in a NPC corp and anchor items, that block people from deploying a tower. The problem was/is(?), that such items would have too much HP to kill without a wardec and you can't wardec a NPC corp player. That way you could prevent others from using that moon entirely without having to actually defend your claim. Naturally that would be bullcrap and therefore you could petition a GM to remove the item and allow you to anchor yout tower. |
Vilnius Zar
Ordo Ardish
103
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Posted - 2012.08.07 14:13:00 -
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So someone pissed in your cheerios and now you want CCP to "fix" it? Wardec the guys who put up those poses and drive them out. If you can't then simply live with that fact, or get better. Amat victoria curam. |
Goremageddon Box
Guerrilla Flotilla
371
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Posted - 2012.08.07 14:29:00 -
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oooh guys, he trained auto cannon specilization to 5 and does more dmg then my auto cannon speciliazation 4, please roll him back, cus i cant see this is a real time game where people will take advantage of me scouting places to set up my poooooos |
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GM Nythanos
Game Masters C C P Alliance
20
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Posted - 2012.08.07 14:45:00 -
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If a corporation wants to place a tower at a moon that already has a tower present the current owners would have to either be convinced to remove it, or you'd have to remove it for them should they prove unwilling or unable to remove the tower. GM Nythanos | Senior Game Master |
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Norm Tempesta
The Konvergent League Sev3rance
3
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Posted - 2012.08.07 14:48:00 -
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It doesn't sound like something you could or should be able to petition to me. Covering all the moons in the system which you inhabit has sound strategic value. |
Whar Target
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
27
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Posted - 2012.08.07 15:13:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:I think the moon squatting "exploit" relates to highsec where you could be in a NPC corp and anchor items, that block people from deploying a tower. The problem was/is(?), that such items would have too much HP to kill without a wardec and you can't wardec a NPC corp player. That way you could prevent others from using that moon entirely without having to actually defend your claim. Naturally that would be bullcrap and therefore you could petition a GM to remove the item and allow you to anchor yout tower. This is what I was thinking of. It makes sense that it can be petitioned since there's no other way to knock it down.
lol at the people trolling me over this. I have no problem knocking down a POS, and im going to go ahead and take one of their valuable ones if I have to knock them down anyway. POS bashing is just a boring game mechanic. |
Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
92
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Posted - 2012.08.07 15:18:00 -
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I think op got confused with npc corp anchored containers at moons |
Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2012.08.07 15:33:00 -
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Whar Target wrote:Destination SkillQueue wrote:I think the moon squatting "exploit" relates to highsec where you could be in a NPC corp and anchor items, that block people from deploying a tower. The problem was/is(?), that such items would have too much HP to kill without a wardec and you can't wardec a NPC corp player. That way you could prevent others from using that moon entirely without having to actually defend your claim. Naturally that would be bullcrap and therefore you could petition a GM to remove the item and allow you to anchor yout tower. This is what I was thinking of. It makes sense that it can be petitioned since there's no other way to knock it down. lol at the people trolling me over this. I have no problem knocking down a POS, and im going to go ahead and take one of their valuable ones if I have to knock them down anyway. POS bashing is just a boring game mechanic.
Soo, everyone in this thread is an idiot because you don't have a clue what you're talking about?
Gotcha. |
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Denidil
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
413
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Posted - 2012.08.07 15:51:00 -
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*facepalm* valid game mechanics are not exploits If you don't see a problem in 0.0 eroding into two big super-coalitions and a few hangers on in areas nobody cares about.. then you don't have brains. |
Chokichi Ozuwara
Royal One Piece Corporation Deadly Unknown
403
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Posted - 2012.08.07 16:18:00 -
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Denidil wrote:*facepalm* valid game mechanics are not exploits
They are when they keep me from doing what I want. -unnamed statist hypocrite Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round. |
Blane Xero
The Firestorm Cartel
43
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Posted - 2012.08.07 16:33:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:Whar Target wrote:Destination SkillQueue wrote:I think the moon squatting "exploit" relates to highsec where you could be in a NPC corp and anchor items, that block people from deploying a tower. The problem was/is(?), that such items would have too much HP to kill without a wardec and you can't wardec a NPC corp player. That way you could prevent others from using that moon entirely without having to actually defend your claim. Naturally that would be bullcrap and therefore you could petition a GM to remove the item and allow you to anchor yout tower. This is what I was thinking of. It makes sense that it can be petitioned since there's no other way to knock it down. lol at the people trolling me over this. I have no problem knocking down a POS, and im going to go ahead and take one of their valuable ones if I have to knock them down anyway. POS bashing is just a boring game mechanic. Soo, everyone in this thread is an idiot because you don't have a clue what you're talking about? Gotcha. Bad Troll. When did he say [bonus points if in the post you quoted] That you were an idiot?
Protip from a real Troll- He didn't and your attempt to start a flame was terrible and about as noticable as an elephant moonwalking. Resident Haruhiist since December 2008.
Laying claim to Out of Pod Experience since 2007, plain and simple. Keep the trash out of Out Of Pod Experience, If it's EVE Related or deserves a Lock, it does not belong here. |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
1612
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Posted - 2012.08.07 17:07:00 -
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Whar Target wrote:I've read in a few threads that it is considered an exploit to anchor a POS on a moon in empire space, just to prevent other people from doing so. Is this only the case for high sec? What about low sec?
The reason I ask is because there was a system in low-sec where I was thinking about throwing up a POS. There were a few POS's up from inactive corps, two of which we destroyed. We didn't anchor anything on them right away because we still wanted to survey and find out which would be the best moon mins to offset fuel cost somewhat.
Another corp that is currently active in the system anchored large POS's on them almost immediately. They already have over 5 active POS's up in that system. They literally anchored large POS's on every single moon that did not already have one up, seemingly just to prevent anyone else from ever anchoring a POS there.
Is this something that can be petitioned or is that only for high-sec? I'd rather not waste my time knocking down large POS's if I don't have to.
I lolled
Its called a gang of battleships/Caps with logis.
Get sum |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1120
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Posted - 2012.08.07 17:49:00 -
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Thankfully, you can take what you want in this game; and defend what you want to keep.
I suggest you get to it. . |
Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management Unified Church of the Unobligated
519
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Posted - 2012.08.07 18:28:00 -
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Bring muffins. I'm bloody starved. Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims. |
Pankas Carter
Viziam Amarr Empire
22
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Posted - 2012.08.07 18:35:00 -
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GM Nythanos wrote:If a corporation wants to place a tower at a moon that already has a tower present the current owners would have to either be convinced to remove it, or you'd have to remove it for them should they prove unwilling or unable to remove the tower.
I like how everyone ignores the GM answer and continues to bash each other.
Well, here's your answer: no, it's not an exploit. Adama: Starbuck, what do you hear? Starbuck: Nothing but the rain. Adama: Then grab your gun and bring in the cat. |
Ghost Frog
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.08.07 18:58:00 -
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GM Nythanos wrote:If a corporation wants to place a tower at a moon that already has a tower present the current owners would have to either be convinced to remove it, or you'd have to remove it for them should they prove unwilling or unable to remove the tower. what if i just anchor a can there? i've seen this used in hisec a lot. i'm not 100% sure, but i think you can anchor cans in an npc corp. |
Pipa Porto
641
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Posted - 2012.08.07 19:04:00 -
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Ghost Frog wrote:GM Nythanos wrote:If a corporation wants to place a tower at a moon that already has a tower present the current owners would have to either be convinced to remove it, or you'd have to remove it for them should they prove unwilling or unable to remove the tower. what if i just anchor a can there? i've seen this used in hisec a lot. i'm not 100% sure, but i think you can anchor cans in an npc corp.
If someone's squatting a moon with an anchored can, you you used to be able to petition it and have the offending can removed.
Now, you can just move some distance away from the can, and it shouldn't inhibit setting up the POS. (And petition if it doesn't work).
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-RubyPorto |
Jimmy Gunsmythe
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
112
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Posted - 2012.08.07 19:09:00 -
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Gosh, if only there was a way to aggressively negotiate a way for your adversary to move his POS elsewhere. *taps temple* Think, think, think. A good predator knows how to live in balance with his prey, lest he follow them into oblivion. |
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