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Lord Asteroidminerus
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Posted - 2010.11.14 03:15:00 -
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Coming from a 5 year stint with Wow, I tried to make a new home here. I started an account, seen it would be 2 months of training before I got good indy ships, so started another then another. Well, every time I tried to take a retriever to anything below 0.5 I would get gate jumped and die in 4 sec. Tonight killed it for me. After losing yet another 3 ships I have decided to go back to wow. I hate how it has become less of a challenge but compared to this, gimme a break. Your choices in Eve are do the same repetitive missions over and over, mine for hours on end in high sec safety, or lose everything to some a hole waiting at a gate for you to come by. To that guy that got me earlier, I say thanks. Thanks for making me realize that eve is basically a station and an asteroid belt. Period. That is as far as it goes.Missions are the same thing over and over, and my main does lvl4's so don't try to flame this alt. Come the morn I will cancel all three accounts and bid ccp a fond farewell, and hope you advance Eve in the future. To get past 30k players you need more than 3 places to go, sorry but that is the truth of it. I did find eve a piecefull break from raiding in wow but seriously, there is no depth here. Let the flaming begin. Good bye.
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Culmen
Caldari Blood Phage Syndicate Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.11.14 03:25:00 -
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Edited by: Culmen on 14/11/2010 03:26:05 Your description of EvE indicates you never joined a corp. At least not one that was worth a damm.
That's like playing WoW and not running quests.
A corp might have helped you scout those gates, or taught how to and helped you kill those pirates. Corps and Alliances are what make EvE fun.
You've barely scratched the surface.
But since you insisted on playing poorly, we're not really sad to see you go. Have fun else where! and further more why do i even need a sig? |
Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.11.14 03:25:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Asteroidminerus Your choices in Eve are do the same repetitive missions over and over, mine for hours on end in high sec safety, or lose everything to some a hole waiting at a gate for you to come by.
Only if your INITIAL choice was "do everything alone", and only if you choose to only participate in those particular activities. But hey, you already made up your mind, don't expect me to try and change it for you.
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Flesh Slurper
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Posted - 2010.11.14 03:50:00 -
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When you first jump into lowsec you get a warning about the dangers. You chose to take a defenseless, slow ship into a dangerous area *alone* and you got the exact result you asked for. You then did it again several more times, and expected different results from what you were already warned, and your own personal experience. That might qualify as insanity...
You might get better results playing the game with others (AKA join a corp that can help with defense and scouting, or that holds sov in 0.0 space), or change your tactics (Perhaps mine in sites and keep the Dscan going for probes). Either way, with a tiny bit of thinking on your part, you could have had a much better time in lowsec.
As for 2 months to get a good indy ship, what are you trying to fly? A freighter? A transport ship? A mammoth that has enough space to swallow a jetcan in one scoop only takes a couple of days to train even on a brand new character. |
Aerasia
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Posted - 2010.11.14 04:20:00 -
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Originally by: Culmen That's like playing WoW and not running quests.
Really his behaviour was closer to having a Night Elf dance naked in front of Ogrimmar.
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Faust Rammstein
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Posted - 2010.11.14 05:21:00 -
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You say I haven't scratched the surface but I think I have. So I join a corp and for what? To have them scout a gate before I make any move? Once again it is the same thing, only a couple of directions to go. Station, gate, roid field. But I guess if I have corp mates that would make it more fun huh? We all will gang bang a what? oh yea, an astroid field. Big fun.
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Culmen
Caldari Blood Phage Syndicate Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.11.14 05:25:00 -
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Originally by: Faust Rammstein You say I haven't scratched the surface but I think I have. So I join a corp and for what? To have them scout a gate before I make any move? Once again it is the same thing, only a couple of directions to go. Station, gate, roid field. But I guess if I have corp mates that would make it more fun huh? We all will gang bang a what? oh yea, an astroid field. Big fun.
Again, as i stated in my original post. you can go gang bang that pirate gang threatening the gate. Or go gang bang a retriever jumping through or take out some random 0.0 ratter.
the possibilities are endless. I would have quit this game looong ago if there wasn't some corp related drama going on. and further more why do i even need a sig? |
Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.11.14 05:54:00 -
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Hey, weren't you the one trolling a few days ago about some haulers killing a battlesomething and you wanting to quit because of that, and that alt of yours claiming to be one of the other onlookers ? Why, yes, you were ! Credibility dropped from negligible to absolute zero.
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Minerva Vulcan
Caldari Ctrl Alt Elites
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Posted - 2010.11.14 06:21:00 -
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Yup, that's about all there is to it. Well, when you don't learn how to play smart, anyway.
Good luck in WoW again. I'm sure you'll have much more fun standing around in Dalaran all day, or doing the same dungeons over and over. Hey, maybe if you're lucky you'll get one of those cool mounts, then you can stand around Dalaran all day on that, instead, for a change of pace.
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Popa Cyno
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Posted - 2010.11.14 06:45:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 14/11/2010 05:56:14 Hey, weren't you the one trolling a few days ago about some haulers killing a battlesomething and you wanting to quit because of that, and that alt of yours claiming to be one of the other onlookers ? Why, yes, you were ! Oh, and you managed to get 1.1+ bil in a short while as a newbie to afford buying some pilots ? Credibility dropped from negligible to absolute zero.
Well theres always the off chance that the OP isn't Ramstein. But who am I kidding, this is the eve online forums.
There are really only four posters, everyone else is just an alt.
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Faust Rammstein
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Posted - 2010.11.14 06:53:00 -
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lol popa. As for standing around in dalaran, queueing for bg's and doing instances, raids, dailies, that is nothing compared to.....waiting at a gate, or.....hmmm...
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Faust Rammstein
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Posted - 2010.11.14 06:55:00 -
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I was trolling, relax lol....
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Shennaan
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Posted - 2010.11.14 07:47:00 -
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Ok, as a WoW player of about five years myself, I see what your problem is. You are trying to compare the gameplay of Eve with the gameplay of WoW. I just started playing Eve, and I love it because it is completely different.
Apparently you've never played WoW on a pvp server, because your post makes a big deal about you getting ganked. There's a reason for that, low sec is a dangerous place to be. With so many places to travel to in the game, you made a beeline for a warzone. You probably looked like a big pork chop would to a bunch of hungry dogs.
What exactly did you want to do in Eve? Missions, pvp, exploration, market pvp, et al? If you had figured that out, and then looked for some people to help guide you along your chosen path, you would have had a better experience in the game.
Space isn't for the timid and the weak.
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Shiro Kotaki
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.11.14 07:57:00 -
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Can I have your stuff?
============ Om niet verdacht te lijken liet hij overal zijn DNA achter ============ |
Mrs Useless
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Posted - 2010.11.14 07:59:00 -
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Edited by: Mrs Useless on 14/11/2010 08:01:46 Edited by: Mrs Useless on 14/11/2010 07:59:10 What I want to know is if he doesn't really know what the majority of the game is about why he fired up three accounts instead of trying it out with one first.
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Faust Rammstein
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Posted - 2010.11.14 08:18:00 -
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Originally by: Shennaan Ok, as a WoW player of about five years myself, I see what your problem is. You are trying to compare the gameplay of Eve with the gameplay of WoW. I just started playing Eve, and I love it because it is completely different.
Apparently you've never played WoW on a pvp server, because your post makes a big deal about you getting ganked. There's a reason for that, low sec is a dangerous place to be. With so many places to travel to in the game, you made a beeline for a warzone. You probably looked like a big pork chop would to a bunch of hungry dogs.
What exactly did you want to do in Eve? Missions, pvp, exploration, market pvp, et al? If you had figured that out, and then looked for some people to help guide you along your chosen path, you would have had a better experience in the game.
Space isn't for the timid and the weak.
I'm on Blackrock, yes, always pvp. That isn't the deal here. What I was saying was it is basically only a couple of places to point and click. Station, roids, and mission area, no free roaming. And as for the pvp, I'm all for it but there is no buffer to it. You are basically forced to stay high sec until you have trained a couple months for a descent ship, kind of like what I said the first time. And I did 3 accounts, 2 miners and a hauler/pvp trainer. Pvp was training for 2 months so why not mine and haul in the mean time, as if there was anything else to do. Oh, I guess I could have trained a Destroyer and all the corps would have welcomed me with open arms.
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Chiana Moro
Dark Shadow Industries Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.11.14 08:34:00 -
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Edited by: Chiana Moro on 14/11/2010 08:35:00 Please stop spreading your ignorance of game mechanics and content. People may die from severe facepalm trauma.
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Xercodo
Amarr INESTO Task Force
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Posted - 2010.11.14 11:10:00 -
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Edited by: Xercodo on 14/11/2010 11:14:09 i find it sad that half the time these emorage quit threads will be posted to never be read again by the OP, thus dashing any hopes we may have to inform him that he left fro all the wrong reasons
also try wormholes
nothing is the same one day from the next, you have no idea who you'll run into
the sleeper are tough and their AI make them even worse, its the ultimate in teamwork PVE
and if that doesnt do it for ya wait for incursion, as the sansha attacks will be like sleepers in known space
-------------------------------------------------- The drake is a lie
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2010.11.14 13:09:00 -
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Welcome to EVE Online, the MMO where the "multiplayer" matters :)
Make some friends. Spend some time in the newbie corp getting to know people.
Then you won't need to troll the forums as much! It's a win-win all around!
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Oleg Boonikov
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Posted - 2010.11.14 13:54:00 -
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Edited by: Oleg Boonikov on 14/11/2010 13:56:23
Originally by: Lord Asteroidminerus Well, every time I tried to take a retriever to anything below 0.5 I would get gate jumped and die in 4 sec.
Holy lowsec Batman, he got killed in lowsec! What an atrocity!
And no, this is not all there is to EVE. This is what, 5% maybe?, of what there's to EVE. Join a corp, grab a Punisher and fit it for PVP and go to lowsec, or join a wormhole corp and get filthy rich or...or...
By the way: EVE has over 300k subscribers, and just recently about 62k were online on the server. |
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Aerasia
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Posted - 2010.11.14 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Oleg Boonikov By the way: EVE has over 300k subscribers, and just recently about 62k were online on the server.
Subscriptions maybe, but definitely not subscribers. Given the prevalence of "Power of 2" alts, I'm willing to bet the actual subscriber base is closer to 125k (+/- macro miners of course ).
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Tranka Verrane
Mentors Administration
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Posted - 2010.11.14 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: Aerasia
Originally by: Oleg Boonikov By the way: EVE has over 300k subscribers, and just recently about 62k were online on the server.
Subscriptions maybe, but definitely not subscribers. Given the prevalence of "Power of 2" alts, I'm willing to bet the actual subscriber base is closer to 125k (+/- macro miners of course ).
IIRC the number of subscribers is always a lot higher than people estimate. The people with alts are always the most vocal and active so people think there are far more of them then there actually are. Based on the percentage last time I read up around 50k of those subs are alts.
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Minerva Vulcan
Caldari Ctrl Alt Elites
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Posted - 2010.11.14 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: Faust Rammstein I was trolling, relax lol....
Haha!
Hey guys... he's being "clever!"
ON THE INTERNET!
What a funny and unique individual. I sure wish I could get to know him now, he seems like a real firecracker!
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Jennifer Starling
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.11.14 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Asteroidminerus Well, every time I tried to take a retriever to anything below 0.5 I would get gate jumped and die in 4 sec. Tonight killed it for me. After losing yet another 3 ships I have decided to go back to wow.
Ehm ... do I understand correctly that you seek adventure by solo mining in lowsec?
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Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.11.14 20:20:00 -
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LMAO good riddance. Eve requires an imagination and the ability to learn from mistakes. You clearly lack both.
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Enno Duluoz
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Posted - 2010.11.14 20:39:00 -
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Didn't CCP just release a stat in the Quarterly Economic Report that player retention drops to almost nil if said player does not join a player corp within the first 3 weeks?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure again. Seriously, try it. Eve isn't a solo game, and lowsec is full of pirates. People in your corp would've told you that.
There are a lot of mining corps that'll bring you into ops where you can mine outside of high sec. At least check that out before you quit.
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Kezzle
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Posted - 2010.11.14 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: Faust Rammstein What I was saying was it is basically only a couple of places to point and click. Station, roids, and mission area, no free roaming.
Oh troll-boy, perhaps you've heard of exploration. Doesn't get much more free roaming. You only think you've done more than scratch the surface. Just because you think that, doesn't make it true. It's evident that you've just superficially window-licked some of the most obvious approaches to the game.
Quote: ...pvp, I'm all for it but there is no buffer to it. You are basically forced to stay high sec until you have trained a couple months for a descent ship...
Look, trolling bull like that in New Citizens is anti-social. The barrier to entering something like FW isn't the training, it's the cash. You need a bit of money (or a supportive corp) to pack a few fitted out Rifters in your hangar; the skills necessary to fly tackle for a FW gang are pretty trivial to get.
Quote: And I did 3 accounts, 2 miners and a hauler/pvp trainer.
Then you took them into losec. Stupid is as stupid does.
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ShahFluffers
Gallente Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2010.11.15 00:58:00 -
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Edited by: ShahFluffers on 15/11/2010 01:13:13
Oh, hello again Rammstein!! Let's dive right in.
Originally by: Faust Rammstein
What I was saying was it is basically only a couple of places to point and click. Station, roids, and mission area, no free roaming.
Iono how you define "free roaming" but the way I see it, no one is forcing you to do anything in the game. You don't HAVE to mine in belts (there are anomalies and even wormholes you can scan down). Hell, you don't HAVE to mine period. The same goes for running missions. There are SO MANY other ways to make ISK rather than the same old, same old.
For example: During my early days in EvE I ATTEMPTED to mine and manufacture to make ISK, but I found it a little too "constricting" and "bland" for my taste. Nowadays, most of my ISK comes from playing market games, scamming, and selling the loot off of ships I have killed. I find this to be vastly more fun.
Originally by: Faust Rammstein
And as for the pvp, I'm all for it but there is no buffer to it. You are basically forced to stay high sec until you have trained a couple months for a descent ship, kind of like what I said the first time.
You're under the [faulty] assumption that if you can't field the best then there is no point in even trying. To "do" PvP requires only 4 things: basic skills in navigation, preferred weapon type, and ewar (propulsion jamming in particular), some expendable ships/capital, understanding of PvP fits and tactics (browse the Ships and Modules forum section), and a "PvP mentality" (i.e. doesn't matter if you live or die, you are GOING to kill someone).
Sure, in a paltry T1 fitted T1 frigate you won't be able to stand very well on your own... but if you team up with others (even other guys in T1 fitted T1 frigates) and specialize your ship for [a] certain job[s] (ex. "fast tackle") then you WILL be an asset.
Pro-tip: There are quite a few players out there who will only fly in larger ships because they wish to apply as much raw DPS as possible. Such ships have trouble catching smaller, faster ships and/or getting into range before a target runs off. If you attach yourself to such players, they will LOVE for you to be in a small fast ship (even a cheapo expendable one) that can catch and lock down a target long enough for them to arrive on the scene. If you are REALLY lucky they might be a good bunch and compensate you for your loss if you lose your ship in the engagement (usually by giving you a good portion of the target's loot which you can sell off).
Originally by: Faust Rammstein
And I did 3 accounts, 2 miners and a hauler/pvp trainer. Pvp was training for 2 months so why not mine and haul in the mean time, as if there was anything else to do. Oh, I guess I could have trained a Destroyer and all the corps would have welcomed me with open arms.
If you can fly frigates and dessies well, yes... you would be able to find a group that would take you in and make use of your skills. Arty-fit, T1 Suicide Thrasher gangs are REALLY nasty to come across. _______________________
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Sergeant Spot
Galactic Geographic BookMark Surveying Inc.
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Posted - 2010.11.15 03:30:00 -
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Eve has VASTLY inferior PvE compared to WoW.
Nothing wrong with wanting more PvE in your game, but as of today, Eve aint the best place for it. Eve PvE might get better in the future, and I hope it does, but don't hold your breath waiting.
Play nice while you butcher each other.
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Faust Rammstein
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Posted - 2010.11.15 04:54:00 -
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Originally by: Oleg Boonikov Edited by: Oleg Boonikov on 14/11/2010 13:56:23
Originally by: Lord Asteroidminerus Well, every time I tried to take a retriever to anything below 0.5 I would get gate jumped and die in 4 sec.
Holy lowsec Batman, he got killed in lowsec! What an atrocity!
And no, this is not all there is to EVE. This is what, 5% maybe?, of what there's to EVE. Join a corp, grab a Punisher and fit it for PVP and go to lowsec, or join a wormhole corp and get filthy rich or...or...
By the way: EVE has over 300k subscribers, and just recently about 62k were online on the server.
I beg to differ. I have logged on from server restart and have been on everyday for a couple months, sometimes from 7am until 2 the next morning.I have never seen the pop counter on opening screen above 37k players. You seem to want to add a zero in there to make it look better...so be it.
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