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Archdaimon
NorCorp Enterprise No Holes Barred
76
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Posted - 2012.08.08 17:44:00 -
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I like the new overlay. |
Vilnius Zar
Ordo Ardish
110
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Posted - 2012.08.08 17:46:00 -
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While not trying to sound like an ass, didn't you guys REALISE that a large number of players wouldn't want 5 acres of text every second they want to activate a module? I mean, surely one of you must have come up with a "wait, shouldn't we make this optional? Some people might not need it or due to their UI setup might actually be hindered by it. Perhaps a yes/no option or a way to disable the icons so it's text only or perhaps put in a delay (which can be selected by the player)".
Didn't anyone pull you back into the reality that not everyone needs to have basic info spoonfed, shouted at them through a megaphone?
Amat victoria curam. |
Jessica Hakomairos
South West Trading
6
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Posted - 2012.08.08 17:47:00 -
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let us set the delay ourselves and everyone will be happy. those who want to turn them off can just enter a delay of 60 seconds and that should do it ;-) and those who like the instant info can just keep the 0 seconds delay it currently is
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FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks The Marmite Collective
2177
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Posted - 2012.08.08 17:49:00 -
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Good point about the tooltip not showing alpha. Knowing the cycle time would be useful as well.
A new version of my proposed "condensed" tooltip:
Quote:6x Arbalest Cruise Launcher I [F1] 18 Scourge Cruise Missile Range: 151 km || Cycle time: x.x s Damage: xxxxx.x || DPS: 308.6
The Skunkworks is recruiting. -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1540711#post1540711 |
Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
390
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Posted - 2012.08.08 17:52:00 -
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Two second delay, and or the abilty to turn off please. You want fries with that? |
tgl3
Wormhole Engineers Greater Realms
151
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Posted - 2012.08.08 18:03:00 -
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It'd be nice if the new tooltips showed repair amounts, too... I write a blog. I think people read it. http://throughnewbeyes.wordpress.com
Mate |
arria Auscent
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2012.08.08 18:15:00 -
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is it so hard for you devs to put in an option to switch this rubbish off? |
alittlebirdy
All Hail The Liopleurodon
47
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Posted - 2012.08.08 18:18:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:The tooltip assumes that sometimes you might eg fit three active shield hardeners and not remember which one you happened to put in which HUD slot
And we disable this how?
Or did you ASSume we are all assholes and all want this ****?
So missing, alpha, cycle time, telling us "hey ******, this is a X gun and you have Y number of ammo loaded"
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Hrothgar Nilsson
Black Guards Black Core Alliance
91
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Posted - 2012.08.08 18:32:00 -
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PLEASE give us an option to disable these mouseover boxes for modules.
They're annoying as hell. I can see they might be useful to somebody new, but I don't want to see them.
Or a several second delay as somebody else said. E.G., three seconds with your mouse over the module icon triggers the mouseover box. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTzA_xesrL8 |
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
1205
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Posted - 2012.08.08 18:36:00 -
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Both Soundwave and I have already addressed the questions everyone is asking:
CCP karkur wrote:We have talked this over, and we will add the ability to disable the tooltips. I hope you guys will still use them, but if you really don-¦t want them, you will be able to turn them off (so it's new awesome tooltips or no tooltips).
I hope that will work for you guys :)
CCP Soundwave wrote:Being able to set a delay may even be enough. Adding the option to disable a single function might be a bit overkill with a proper delay. We are looking into this (as Soundwave says, we might end up going just with a delay, we'll see tomorrow if we feel we need both) CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Avatar | @CCP_karkur |
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Hannott Thanos
Notorious Legion
91
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Posted - 2012.08.08 18:38:00 -
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CCP karkur wrote:Both Soundwave and I have already addressed the questions everyone is asking: CCP karkur wrote:We have talked this over, and we will add the ability to disable the tooltips. I hope you guys will still use them, but if you really don-¦t want them, you will be able to turn them off (so it's new awesome tooltips or no tooltips).
I hope that will work for you guys :) CCP Soundwave wrote:Being able to set a delay may even be enough. Adding the option to disable a single function might be a bit overkill with a proper delay. We are looking into this
What about repair amount? ehp in lowest resist armor per second would be nice. same for shield boost in lowest shield resist |
MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
1078
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Posted - 2012.08.08 18:40:00 -
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oh wow thanks for the screen shot! that looks awesome! love the icons! http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg |
Sexy Cakes
Poasting
27
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Posted - 2012.08.08 18:44:00 -
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Jerick Ludhowe wrote:CCP karkur wrote:We have talked this over, and we will add the ability to disable the tooltips. I hope you guys will still use them, but if you really don-¦t want them, you will be able to turn them off (so it's new awesome tooltips or no tooltips).
I hope that will work for you guys :) How did a simple disable function miss launch? Did you guys really assume that people would be ok with huge windows displaying next to no useful information would be accept by the masses? Also it's very buggy and the tool tips windows often get stuck in the top left of my screen... Anyway, i'm glad to see that you're correcting your short sightedness.
CCP assumes that opinions opposing changes always fall under the 'afraid of change' category. |
arcca jeth
Dark Alliance Dark Empire Alliance
132
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Posted - 2012.08.08 18:44:00 -
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I also would like the ability to turn this off. Great for newbs and good for default to be set to "on". but i know how to use a calculator and have been playing 6 years. I'd like to be able to turn this off in general settings. I cannot check this as I am at work. Has anyone found a way to turn it off? OR if there is no way to do so, are we going to be given that option in the near future?
Thanks! |
arcca jeth
Dark Alliance Dark Empire Alliance
132
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Posted - 2012.08.08 18:48:00 -
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CCP karkur wrote:Both Soundwave and I have already addressed the questions everyone is asking: CCP karkur wrote:We have talked this over, and we will add the ability to disable the tooltips. I hope you guys will still use them, but if you really don-¦t want them, you will be able to turn them off (so it's new awesome tooltips or no tooltips).
I hope that will work for you guys :) CCP Soundwave wrote:Being able to set a delay may even be enough. Adding the option to disable a single function might be a bit overkill with a proper delay. We are looking into this (as Soundwave says, we might end up going just with a delay, we'll see tomorrow if we feel we need both)
nevermind, and thank you for adding this. Again this is great for those who are new and I could see myself turning them on to check some things but I'd likely leave them off. I about shat myself everytime something new pops up on the screen in EVE, because I'm high strung like that lmao o7
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2331
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Posted - 2012.08.08 18:58:00 -
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Thanks for considering the addition of the extra flexibility.
I think most of us realize that often "simply add the ability to disable this" isn't doable, or at the least much more difficult that it would appear to be. Hopefully this won't be too difficult to impliment.
I think it's a bit silly for people to claim that nobody but noobs will use this.
Yes, noobs will benefit from this... then people tend to become specialized in certain fits for a while in their character advancement and likely will have this info memorized.
However many people fail to realize that you get past that specilized stage and eventually get to the point where you can easily have dozens, if not hundreds, of differently fit hulls in your hanger. Memorizing all of the pertinent information then becomes impossible and these tips become a godsend again.
So yeah, if you are a Falcon pilot and have everything you need memorized thats great, but you will eventually progress beyond that point and you'll appreciate the quick availability of the info at a glance again. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Fon Revedhort
Monks of War DarkSide.
743
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Posted - 2012.08.08 19:03:00 -
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CCP karkur wrote:We have talked this over, and we will add the ability to disable the tooltips. I hope you guys will still use them, but if you really don-¦t want them, you will be able to turn them off (so it's new awesome tooltips or no tooltips).
I hope that will work for you guys :) Yeah, I'll enjoy my awesome clean and tidy look a lot by turning them off.
You guys should really adopt the idea of making such controversal stuff optional from the very beginning instead of force-feeding us with it.
Incarna, Drone damage notifications, 'improved' UI - the list goes on...
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Melina Lin
Universal Frog
32
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Posted - 2012.08.08 19:16:00 -
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Shereza wrote:Instead of just an option to disable could you give us something more like a tooltip wait timer so that we can dictate how long they take to show up? That way we could set -1 for them to never show up (or check a box I suppose), 0 for instant tips, and any other more reasonable number for the rest of us.
I really like this idea. |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
1187
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Posted - 2012.08.08 19:50:00 -
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I do love em, but sometimes I would like to turn them off.
Also, please add a second delay are so. |
Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
106
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Posted - 2012.08.08 19:51:00 -
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CCP Soundwave wrote:Being able to set a delay may even be enough. Adding the option to disable a single function might be a bit overkill with a proper delay.
Wow what a speedy response from the two of you. I enjoy the pop up info, and the slight delay does seem like a very good idea. This has been a very good patch for me so far. |
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Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management Unified Church of the Unobligated
536
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Posted - 2012.08.08 19:56:00 -
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I'd like the delay and possibly some transparency on the background please.
Ta muchly. Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims. |
Chokichi Ozuwara
Royal One Piece Corporation Deadly Unknown
409
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Posted - 2012.08.08 20:08:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:For what? Trolling what? Or posting against pvp pilots on a regular basis?
Isn't it high time you grew up and stopped acting like a baby? Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round. |
Suddenly Forums ForumKings
Republic University Minmatar Republic
156
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Posted - 2012.08.08 20:10:00 -
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Taranius De Consolville wrote:No, stop, ive had enuff of this thread already There is nothing wrong with ccp has done and ill be damned if sum idiot pvper is gonna start a thread nought because you feel slighted over a change that is designed for new players 1. the text and size is fine, if u cant read it, get glasess 2. it is not offensive, i often forget what mods ive got on a ship when im out in it alot so go away and stop wasting ccps time with your attention seeking crap
some idiot pvper?
You have just experienced a carebear moment. |
Chokichi Ozuwara
Royal One Piece Corporation Deadly Unknown
409
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Posted - 2012.08.08 20:11:00 -
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Cutter Isaacson wrote:The tooltips do not assume you are idiots. The whiny responses in this thread proves people are idiots. Imagine you are a new player, you have multiple ammo types for your guns and want to double check your range, or what module is fitted, stuff like that. New players are not idiots, they are just new, so how about people stop whining about every inconceivable thing and get on with playing the game. Cutter, feel free to start making good posts any time now. Seriously, make good posts. Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round. |
Chokichi Ozuwara
Royal One Piece Corporation Deadly Unknown
409
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Posted - 2012.08.08 20:11:00 -
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CCP karkur wrote:more talking... we are also planning on adding more delay (not sure how much).... I'm about to start making those changes :) I like you a lot. You get it. Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round. |
Ilnaurk Sithdogron
Crunchy Crunchy Peregrine Nation
76
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Posted - 2012.08.08 20:13:00 -
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I like being able to see stuff like range and missile flight time by just looking down. Missile stuff is especially nice, as I generally used ballpark estimates to figure out when I was in missile range. Now I know exactly when to open up.
My monitor is pretty big so I don't mind their size, but if I was stuck with a little laptop screen I can see where it would get annoying. I think the best solution is where you have to hover over it with your mouse for two or three seconds to see the tip.
Overall though, the tooltips are great. Thanks devs! http://eve-sojourn.blogspot.com/
Sojourn, a newbie's EVE blog. |
Large Collidable Object
morons.
1823
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Posted - 2012.08.08 20:19:00 -
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Roime wrote:
and I really wish there will be an option to turn them off.
This really - I understand CCP can't maintain all kinds of redundant systems like the old inventory etc..., but a simple option to turn something off would be nice.
Can't say I dislike them yet and they're certainly a good addition for newcomers, but I guess I'd turn them off sooner or later as I play with an enabled tactical overlay anyway (and know the ranges and falloffs of items I use from the top of my head). You know... morons. |
Smoking Blunts
ZC Industries Dark Stripes
339
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Posted - 2012.08.08 20:22:00 -
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CCP karkur wrote:Both Soundwave and I have already addressed the questions everyone is asking: CCP karkur wrote:We have talked this over, and we will add the ability to disable the tooltips. I hope you guys will still use them, but if you really don-¦t want them, you will be able to turn them off (so it's new awesome tooltips or no tooltips).
I hope that will work for you guys :) CCP Soundwave wrote:Being able to set a delay may even be enough. Adding the option to disable a single function might be a bit overkill with a proper delay. We are looking into this (as Soundwave says, we might end up going just with a delay, we'll see tomorrow if we feel we need both)
please go with both, or just the ability to turn this off.. i dont care if my range is xy or z when im clicking on a mod, im not 2 weeks old and know this already. OMG when can i get a pic here
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Alundil
The Unnamed.
156
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Posted - 2012.08.08 20:23:00 -
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I like the tool tips. I agree that they are a bit too large. I agree that there should be an option to disable these for the players that want to do to.
With that out of the way:
Rommiee wrote:They cover half the screen with information 95% of people will already know about their ship & mods.
Rommiee wrote:Please allow the other 99.9999% of the people to turn it off.
I think you have a problem with percentages... |
Diana Valenti
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
34
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Posted - 2012.08.08 20:32:00 -
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Best small thing added to eve since i started playing, GJ CCP. |
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