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Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.08 14:10:00 -
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I found the newly changed T1 frigates such as the Slasher to be a lot more useful and generally awesome after today's update.
However it does look rather odd to me that a Slasher with a neutralizer+scram+web+T2 AB is more cap stable than my jaguar
discuss(and don't forget the atron, executioner and condor) |
Sarik Olecar
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
76
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Posted - 2012.08.08 14:11:00 -
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Slasher still looks like a flying lawnchair, so I'm still pretty 'meh' about it... |
Traejun DiSanctis
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
38
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Posted - 2012.08.08 16:28:00 -
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Liafcipe9000 wrote:I found the newly changed T1 frigates such as the Slasher to be a lot more useful and generally awesome after today's update. However it does look rather odd to me that a Slasher with a neutralizer+scram+web+T2 AB is more cap stable than my jaguar discuss(and don't forget the atron, executioner and condor)
But your Jag does more damage... right?
That aside, I am a little wary of these buffs. It's perhaps made some T1 frigs as good as T2 or Navy frigs... or at least close to them... for a fraction of the cost. |
Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
424
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Posted - 2012.08.08 16:32:00 -
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I support cheap PVP. "This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro" |
Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
416
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Posted - 2012.08.08 16:33:00 -
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I killed a RIFTER in my CONDOR =)
117 DPS kinetic rockets Small T2 Nosferatu
T2 MSE T2 SCRAM T2 WEB T2 Afterburner
T2 MAPC T2 Ballistic Control
Anti-EM Extender Extender
Rifter pilot was 8 months old, I am ~3.5 years old, so it wasn't exactly a fair fight... but <3 the new Condor If you need a friend call me @ (501) 444-CCNA |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2331
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Posted - 2012.08.08 16:47:00 -
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Traejun DiSanctis wrote:Liafcipe9000 wrote:I found the newly changed T1 frigates such as the Slasher to be a lot more useful and generally awesome after today's update. However it does look rather odd to me that a Slasher with a neutralizer+scram+web+T2 AB is more cap stable than my jaguar discuss(and don't forget the atron, executioner and condor) But your Jag does more damage... right? That aside, I am a little wary of these buffs. It's perhaps made some T1 frigs as good as T2 or Navy frigs... or at least close to them... for a fraction of the cost.
When the time comes I'm sure we will see adjustments made to the faction and T2 vessels as well. Changes geared to make them excel at certain specific tasks. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Denidil
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
421
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Posted - 2012.08.08 16:49:00 -
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Tom Gerard wrote:I killed a RIFTER in my CONDOR =) 117 DPS kinetic rockets Small T2 Nosferatu T2 MSE T2 SCRAM T2 WEB T2 Afterburner T2 MAPC T2 Ballistic Control Anti-EM Extender Extender Rifter pilot was 8 months old, I am ~3.5 years old, so it wasn't exactly a fair fight... but <3 the new Condor http://osmium.artefact2.com/loadout/140This was my fit.
Oh look! a Punisher or a Tormentor.. you're ****** :D If you don't see a problem in 0.0 eroding into two big super-coalitions and a few hangers on in areas nobody cares about.. then you don't have brains. |
Traejun DiSanctis
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
38
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Posted - 2012.08.08 16:49:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Traejun DiSanctis wrote:Liafcipe9000 wrote:I found the newly changed T1 frigates such as the Slasher to be a lot more useful and generally awesome after today's update. However it does look rather odd to me that a Slasher with a neutralizer+scram+web+T2 AB is more cap stable than my jaguar discuss(and don't forget the atron, executioner and condor) But your Jag does more damage... right? That aside, I am a little wary of these buffs. It's perhaps made some T1 frigs as good as T2 or Navy frigs... or at least close to them... for a fraction of the cost. When the time comes I'm sure we will see adjustments made to the faction and T2 vessels as well. Changes geared to make them excel at certain specific tasks.
I sure hope so, because I'm basically ready to sit my Harpy and Slicer in favor of a Merlin and Executioner. The only Navy frig I'll never shelf is my Comet. So pretty... so deadly. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2331
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Posted - 2012.08.08 16:55:00 -
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Denidil wrote:Tom Gerard wrote:I killed a RIFTER in my CONDOR =) 117 DPS kinetic rockets Small T2 Nosferatu T2 MSE T2 SCRAM T2 WEB T2 Afterburner T2 MAPC T2 Ballistic Control Anti-EM Extender Extender Rifter pilot was 8 months old, I am ~3.5 years old, so it wasn't exactly a fair fight... but <3 the new Condor http://osmium.artefact2.com/loadout/140This was my fit. Oh look! a Punisher or a Tormentor.. you're ****** :D
Now that's exactly what everyone wants to see. A much wider variety of ship hulls in common combat usage, which add's multiple levels of complexity in how you fit and fly your ship to deal with them. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Zane Echerie
Syn Syndicate
6
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Posted - 2012.08.08 19:06:00 -
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I'm looking forward to actually flying an Atron for once with an actual purpose instead of just "I was too poor at the time to buy anything better"
Looking forward to the combat Navitas when it comes out |
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James 315
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2250
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Posted - 2012.08.08 19:07:00 -
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I haven't looked at all the specs, but it's not bad to see some frigates other than the rifter getting some love. The rifter will still hold a special place in my heart though. MinerBumping.com -- The daily saga of one man's quest to bring civilization to highsec by bumping miners out of range. |
Marzuq
Scarlet Weather Rhapsody
20
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Posted - 2012.08.08 21:01:00 -
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James 315 wrote:I haven't looked at all the specs, but it's not bad to see some frigates other than the rifter getting some love. The rifter will still hold a special place in my heart though.
The rifter was the supreme t1 frigate out of all. |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
1191
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Posted - 2012.08.08 21:02:00 -
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Adjustments will need to be made along the way. Rome wasn't build in a day (or something like that). |
Russell Casey
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
183
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Posted - 2012.08.08 21:49:00 -
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I love how we have Baby Intercepters now (T1 frigs with high scan resolation and prop jam reduction but not the range boost). Maybe next we'll get Baby Bombers (T1 Frigs that shoot torps but no cloak/bomb launcher). |
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.08.09 07:14:00 -
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Russell Casey wrote:I love how we have Baby Intercepters now (T1 frigs with high scan resolation and prop jam reduction but not the range boost). Maybe next we'll get Baby Bombers (T1 Frigs that shoot torps but no cloak/bomb launcher). That don't sit well with a concept of T1 frigs being available to young toons - torps are long train, relatively, and don't forget the price. Also, such frigate won't really see much use (little choice of targets while in a hull that doesn't do wee in environement where such targets are met). But maybe Frigs with cruiser-sized assault (?) missiles will do. Price issues still say though, good HAM launchers are overpriced as heck atm. |
Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
1027
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Posted - 2012.08.09 07:17:00 -
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Tiericide feels good in the pants
Props CCP, this stuff is awesome! Keep it up <3 Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Max G Force
State War Academy Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.08.09 07:20:00 -
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Pirate ship changes are crap.
Bad enough that they gave them a crappy paint job, then they had to make it worse by altering the sizes. |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1664
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Posted - 2012.08.09 07:55:00 -
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While the Rifter was probably never meant to be a tackler, it epitomized "every ship is dangerous."
http://i.imgur.com/Dhd8o.jpg
The Rifter is dead. Long live the Slasher. :\ EVE Online: Trammel (or NGE) |
ACE McFACE
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
803
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Posted - 2012.08.09 09:22:00 -
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Max G Force wrote:Pirate ship changes are crap.
Bad enough that they gave them a crappy paint job, then they had to make it worse by altering the sizes. Massive nerf I know "7 pages of people insulting me - aka trolling" - Lady Hofstedar What s/he (probobly he) meant: "7 pages of people disagreeing with my terrible idea - aka trolling" - Lady Hofstedar |
Cede Forster
EVE University Ivy League
15
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Posted - 2012.08.09 09:43:00 -
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ACE McFACE wrote:Max G Force wrote:Pirate ship changes are crap.
Bad enough that they gave them a crappy paint job, then they had to make it worse by altering the sizes. Massive nerf I know
if they altered your size i bet you'd call it a massive nerf |
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Chokichi Ozuwara
Royal One Piece Corporation Deadly Unknown
419
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Posted - 2012.08.09 09:43:00 -
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The Condor has been, and continues to be, the best GD frigate in the entire game. Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round. |
Denidil
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
433
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Posted - 2012.08.09 14:35:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Denidil wrote:Tom Gerard wrote:I killed a RIFTER in my CONDOR =) 117 DPS kinetic rockets Small T2 Nosferatu T2 MSE T2 SCRAM T2 WEB T2 Afterburner T2 MAPC T2 Ballistic Control Anti-EM Extender Extender Rifter pilot was 8 months old, I am ~3.5 years old, so it wasn't exactly a fair fight... but <3 the new Condor http://osmium.artefact2.com/loadout/140This was my fit. Oh look! a Punisher or a Tormentor.. you're ****** :D Now that's exactly what everyone wants to see. A much wider variety of ship hulls in common combat usage, which add's multiple levels of complexity in how you fit and fly your ship to deal with them.
i was pointing out his EM resist hole :D If you don't see a problem in 0.0 eroding into two big super-coalitions and a few hangers on in areas nobody cares about.. then you don't have brains. |
Cooper Anderson Stewart
Aideron Robotics
5
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Posted - 2012.08.09 14:41:00 -
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Had a blast dying gloriously last night in a new Executioner.
The ship cost all of 220k for the hull
not posting the fit because it will get trolled but the highlights are
3500m/s 3 scorch pulses web+scram+mwd cap stable with ccc 2000ish EHP
serious fun.
thanks ccp.
THIS IS NOT INCARNAGE
/happy |
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