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Ehrghiez
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Posted - 2010.11.26 23:24:00 -
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I've been having a hard time deciding where I want to go. I've been thinking about Specializing interceptors since I think tackling would be more my style of play, but Im also really fond of the Ishkur. So far I have 4mil SP spread out all over the place.
My biggest dilema is trying to balance skill training between frigates and battleships. Since I'm not in a corp as of right now I've gotta run mishes. I fly a domi which is low end L4 capable. Takes me close to half an hour or more to finish a mission. Should I just work my BS skills first until I find them satisfactory and then focus on frig skills, or vice versa?
I've been absent from Eve for close to 5 months now, so I've been browsing the forums and dev blogs over the last couple of days trying to catch up to whats been going on in the game while Ive been away.
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Footoo Rama
Gallente Beyond Control.
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Posted - 2010.11.26 23:36:00 -
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Depends on what you want to do.
You can make money in a domi, but you need to get those skills up in drones esp Sentry II and skip heavy drones for now.
If your going into pvp interceptor or Stealth Bombers are great intro's into PvP and the skills for the most part are used on all ships. ------- "Because the Dominix is the Chuck Norris of Eve!" |
Ehrghiez
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Posted - 2010.11.26 23:41:00 -
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Edited by: Ehrghiez on 26/11/2010 23:41:42
Originally by: Footoo Rama Depends on what you want to do.
You can make money in a domi, but you need to get those skills up in drones esp Sentry II and skip heavy drones for now.
If your going into pvp interceptor or Stealth Bombers are great intro's into PvP and the skills for the most part are used on all ships.
I'll take this into consideration, thanks much. I havent started working on Sentry drones yet. Ive got about 700kSP in Drone skills, but none in sentry. I would love to get into PvP, but alas I havent found a corp that consistently PvPs. Plus I have no issues with admitting how much of a PvP noob I am. All of the youtube pvp 101 vids and guides out there cant beat experience, and I would like to learn by doing.
Now I've heard that Stealth bombers should be avoided, especially with Gallente as Missile skills are generally not on the priority list of skills to train. If I am wrong please correct me, as I am noob. =)
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DeftCrow Redriver
Gallente Best Path Inc.
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Posted - 2010.11.27 00:05:00 -
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If you have a hard time deciding which path to specialize first, I recommend working on improving the various support skills; Drone skills for both the Domi and Ishkur(and Taranis to some extent), Gunnery support skills (Rapid Firing, Motion Prediction, etc) for most Gallente ships worth mentioning, and some navigation skills. Deciding which ship / weapon skill you should specialize in can wait for a while as long as you are getting the necessary support skills.
Certificate wise, those skills will fall under the category of: => Core Competency Standard (Except for Core targetting) => Drone Control Imroved => Turret Control Standard => Armor Tanking Improved => Armor Reinforcement Standard => High Velocity Helmsman Improved (Except for Fuel Conservation)
After 12/14, you'll have your SP spent in learning reimbursed, so it will be great to spend those in those support skills. The improved rate of training will also help a lot.
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Ehrghiez
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Posted - 2010.11.27 00:34:00 -
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Originally by: DeftCrow Redriver If you have a hard time deciding which path to specialize first, I recommend working on improving the various support skills; Drone skills for both the Domi and Ishkur(and Taranis to some extent), Gunnery support skills (Rapid Firing, Motion Prediction, etc) for most Gallente ships worth mentioning, and some navigation skills. Deciding which ship / weapon skill you should specialize in can wait for a while as long as you are getting the necessary support skills.
Certificate wise, those skills will fall under the category of: => Core Competency Standard (Except for Core targetting) => Drone Control Imroved => Turret Control Standard => Armor Tanking Improved => Armor Reinforcement Standard => High Velocity Helmsman Improved (Except for Fuel Conservation)
After 12/14, you'll have your SP spent in learning reimbursed, so it will be great to spend those in those support skills. The improved rate of training will also help a lot.
Yeah I've been working on my support skills for awhile now. My domi can perma run 2 reppers but cant run an AB/Rails, etc. Usually just let the drones do everything.
However in the long run I'm looking to invest heavily into PvP, so what I want to do is build the skills I need allow me to maintain a steady flow of income while I do whatever it is I end up doing.
I was browsing the forum not too long ago and saw that T2 frigates have nearly tripled in isk. Upon viewing the market I see this is correct. Is there any reason for this, but more importantly, is there a reason to invest in a T2 friggie with costs ranging from 10-20mil isk?
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shinaide
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Posted - 2010.11.27 02:50:00 -
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Just fly frigs and train the hell out of your support and fitting skills. If you can get into a good pvp corp they will usually front you the cost of interceptors since you are doing a valuable position to the team and you won't really need money. By the time your support and fitting skills are up really high, you will be able to simply train weapons and hulls for larger ships and be able to fly them potently.
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Asuka Smith
Gallente StarHunt
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Posted - 2010.11.27 04:03:00 -
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While it's important to make money, you also have to consider how much it costs to fly battleships poorly. You might be better off sticking with cruisers and frigates and using a battlecruiser to run sites rather than a battleship for missions.
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Ehrghiez
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Posted - 2010.11.27 04:12:00 -
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Originally by: Asuka Smith While it's important to make money, you also have to consider how much it costs to fly battleships poorly. You might be better off sticking with cruisers and frigates and using a battlecruiser to run sites rather than a battleship for missions.
Aside from the speed in which I complete L4s I cant go so far as to say I fly too poorly. Part of why I take so long is I salvage while Im killing things. Works fine for me, but not fast enough.
I like the idea behind frigates and cruisers, but missioning with either of them is isk per time spent seems a bit moot. I am sure there are complexes, but my noobness hasn't allowed for me to fully grasp the idea or etiquette regarding complexes. I've looked up guides, but they are still beyond me. Which is why I park 50km out and just blast away at things for bounty pay. Doesn't really add up to alot of isk at the end of each session.
Please correct me if I am mistaken however. I dont want to fly around Eve in a mobile dunce hat.
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Kassa Daito
Capital Construction Research Pioneer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.27 04:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ehrghiez Aside from the speed in which I complete L4s I cant go so far as to say I fly too poorly. Part of why I take so long is I salvage while Im killing things. Works fine for me, but not fast enough.
I like the idea behind frigates and cruisers, but missioning with either of them is isk per time spent seems a bit moot. I am sure there are complexes, but my noobness hasn't allowed for me to fully grasp the idea or etiquette regarding complexes. I've looked up guides, but they are still beyond me. Which is why I park 50km out and just blast away at things for bounty pay. Doesn't really add up to alot of isk at the end of each session.
Please correct me if I am mistaken however. I dont want to fly around Eve in a mobile dunce hat.
L4s are best done in a BS. If you can run L4s with your standings then a BS is the way to go for those. Just be sure you put on a T2 tank and overtank it to start off with (2x LARII or an XL shield booster, 3x resist modules, and a lot of cap rechargers and cap power relays) and get your T2 small drone skills up before starting. Be sure to read up on EVE Survival for triggers before each mission.
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Zombie Jeebus
Amarr Alt Holdings llc
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Posted - 2010.11.27 05:48:00 -
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With that spread of sp, you might want to look into a battlecruiser. With decent Energy (cap) skills you can fit a cap stable 3 rep myrmidon. You won't be fitting and using guns with that fit.. but you can fly a little faster than a bs and still salvage while letting the drones do all the work. The 3 reps should tank almost any L3 mission, which have a better time/isk ration than you might think, and can tank some of the easier L4... though if you aren't familiar with the aggro mechanics of each mission then just avoid the 4s... or you will lose the ship in a hurry.
If you don't expect to be getting into the pvp aspect of things very soon, then focusing on your bs skills to grind isk faster would probably be best since, be it pve or pvp, eventually you will lose ships and need money to replace them.. as well as wanting new shiny toys. :)
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Ehrghiez
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Posted - 2010.11.27 08:38:00 -
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Originally by: Zombie Jeebus With that spread of sp, you might want to look into a battlecruiser. With decent Energy (cap) skills you can fit a cap stable 3 rep myrmidon. You won't be fitting and using guns with that fit.. but you can fly a little faster than a bs and still salvage while letting the drones do all the work. The 3 reps should tank almost any L3 mission, which have a better time/isk ration than you might think, and can tank some of the easier L4... though if you aren't familiar with the aggro mechanics of each mission then just avoid the 4s... or you will lose the ship in a hurry.
If you don't expect to be getting into the pvp aspect of things very soon, then focusing on your bs skills to grind isk faster would probably be best since, be it pve or pvp, eventually you will lose ships and need money to replace them.. as well as wanting new shiny toys. :)
I've been running L4s out of Ich. I can (90% of the time) aggro an entire room and perma run dual reps in my Domi and be cap stable. Granted I'm not using guns, just letting my drones do their job.
I have a pretty basic understanding of the aggro system, so thats not much of an issue. I have just shy of 1mil Sp in Mechanics, so my tank is functional enough. My biggest issue in L4s is not being able to adequately return fire. I'm lucky to do any sort of respectable damage to anything larger than a frigate. I think I've seen a max of 300dmg on a volley using 5 Dual 250mm Prototypes. Thats using Anti-matter charges at Optimum range. Not worth much considering I cant get passed an L4 BS shields with that alone.
Outside of that L4s aren't too difficult. I was more or less just concerned with training direction, but you sir have answered my question, for that you are a gentleman and a scholar =)
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Ehrghiez
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Posted - 2010.11.27 08:46:00 -
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Heres the set-up that I am currently using.
Dominix Highs: 5x Dual 250mm Prototype I Gauss Gun Drone Link Augmenter Mids: 5x Cap Recharger II
Lows: 2 Large Armor Repairer II EANM II 4x Mission specific armor hardener II Rigs: 3 CCC's
For Drones I stick with the Gallente specific drones. Being T2 Hobs and Hammerheads and T1 Ogres.
It works for me but advice is always welcome =)
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