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Shining Tears
Caldari DarlexCorp
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Posted - 2010.11.27 15:37:00 -
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anyone have a decent mission rokh setup, i normally use a raven but kinda bored of seeing the same ugly ship
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Cobalt Sixty
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2010.11.27 15:50:00 -
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Try typing "Rokh fitting" into Google.
I'm not trying to be entirely disparaging, information really isn't all that hard to find. See?
You could also have tried suggesting your own fitting and seeking input based on that ...
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Duchess Starbuckington
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Posted - 2010.11.27 15:57:00 -
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Frankly it's a good thing they didn't check out that wiki rather than posting here because that PVE setup is an absolute joke. 312 dps? I can probably get better out of a Caracal.
Honestly though, if you've got the hybrid skills, I'd train for a Megathron. Still not ideal for missions but so much better for than the Rokh for this. _________________________________
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Jacob Stov
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Posted - 2010.11.27 17:24:00 -
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Edited by: Jacob Stov on 27/11/2010 17:25:22 There is no decent rokh mission setup. Even versus kin-weak opponents your in most cases better off with a Raven hull. If you want a shield tanked gunship for missions train up minmatar. At least you get some useful PvP ships by doing so.
TLDR: Stop wasting time and start training for minmatar immidiately.
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Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.11.27 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Jacob Stov
TLDR: Stop wasting time and start training for minmatar immidiately.
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.11.27 19:32:00 -
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Mael Fail Rohk...
8x 800mm Auto's
1 X-Large Sheild Booster 1x Boost Amp 1x Capbooster 2x Hardeners 1x Afterburner
3x Gyrostabs 2x Tracking Enhancer
3x CCC Rigs
10x Hobgoblins
I don't no why I made this Rokh fit but it exists and is better then all the Hybrid fits out there.
Deal with it
-- I am now on a Crusade to Fix the Omen!
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1600 RT
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Posted - 2010.11.27 23:05:00 -
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Originally by: Alara IonStorm Mael Fail Rohk...
8x 800mm Auto's
1 X-Large Sheild Booster 1x Boost Amp 1x Capbooster 2x Hardeners 1x Afterburner
3x Gyrostabs 2x Tracking Enhancer
3x CCC Rigs
10x Hobgoblins
I don't no why I made this Rokh fit but it exists and is better then all the Hybrid fits out there.
Deal with it
nice fit it just get outgunned by a blaster rokh up to 40km where the dmg suck anyway for both the ships
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.11.28 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: 1600 RT
nice fit it just get outgunned by a blaster rokh up to 40km where the dmg suck anyway for both the ships
Silly poster Barrage is for Auto's.
And pushes it past 60, while you need Void just to get to 40km.
-- I am now on a Crusade to Fix the Omen!
For Great Justice!
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1600 RT
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Posted - 2010.11.28 01:25:00 -
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Originally by: Alara IonStorm
Originally by: 1600 RT
nice fit it just get outgunned by a blaster rokh up to 40km where the dmg suck anyway for both the ships
Silly poster Barrage is for Auto's.
And pushes it past 60, while you need Void just to get to 40km.
your fit with barrage get outgunned by a rokh with null up to 40km indeed
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.11.28 04:32:00 -
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Originally by: 1600 RT your fit with barrage get outgunned by a rokh with null up to 40km indeed
Up to...
Yea right you got a good twenty falloff to go while Void is still at the edge of it's range. At forty you have selectable Dmg and better Tracking as well with close range Autocannon Ammo.
There is a reason why you see Maels and Machs running around and not PVE Blaster Rohks and Vidicators.
Ethier Way switch to Raven or Cross Train Maelstrom.
-- I am now on a Crusade to Fix the Omen!
For Great Justice!
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Shereza
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Posted - 2010.11.28 05:26:00 -
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I'm not going to bother posting purely T2 fits, to me the rokh is not the sort of ship that will do a great job in missions with a purely T2 setup. At the very least you'll want a core x-type afterburner for blaster variants as even with one of those and maximum skills you're only pushing 325m/s w/o implants.
That said, there will be some T2 modules because these are setups that I would, or do, fly and I can't afford complete faction/deadspace/officer/whatever setups.
[Rokh, Pure Blasters] Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizer Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Capacitor Flux Coil II Capacitor Flux Coil II
Core X-Type 100MN Afterburner Gist X-Type Large Shield Booster Pith A-Type Heat Dissipation Field Pith A-Type Ballistic Deflection Field Shadow Serpentis Tracking Computer, Optimal Range Gist A-Type Shield Boost Amplifier
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Hammerhead II x5
[Rokh, Railgun] Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizer Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizer Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizer Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizer Signal Amplifier II
Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster Pith A-Type Heat Dissipation Field Pith A-Type Ballistic Deflection Field Cap Recharger II Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed
350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 350mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Hammerhead II x5
[Rokh, Hybrid-resistant] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Ballistic Control System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II
Core X-Type 100MN Afterburner Gist C-Type X-Large Shield Booster Pith A-Type Heat Dissipation Field Pith A-Type Ballistic Deflection Field Shadow Serpentis Tracking Computer, Optimal Range Gist A-Type Shield Boost Amplifier
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Null L Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Hammerhead II x5
Setup #1 is there for short-range fun. Up to 836 rDPS at 20km with the ability to hit out to around 60km. If anything gets closer it does nearly 900 rDPS at 8km.
Setup #2 is a more traditional, and likely more efficient fit. The SAII can be swapped out for something more to your taste. I just have it there to boost lock ranges and shorten lock time for when I get WC4s so I can blow the snot out of NPCs with spike.
Setup #3 is the least damaging and the least efficient overall, but it's there for if you absolutely positively must fly a rokh in missions that hybrids aren't well-suited for in terms of damage types. A railgun/cruise launcher setup would be more efficient but not as fun. Also, it requires a 1% CPU implant or another CNBCS to replace the single BCSII (left) in the lows.
Just some options, and expensive ones at that.
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Patri Andari
Caldari Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
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Posted - 2010.11.28 06:11:00 -
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It's a very fun ship with decent attributes yet far from the head of the class when it comes to PVE.
Remember 1 thing and you will be happy. CCP originally designed this game so that missiles and drones were on par as far as damage projection/application. This is why most ships with many launcher slots have a low drone count (there are exceptions. Looking at you Tempest) It is also the reason that CCP restricted the damage and bay count of Gurista ships. (range boost FTL!)
Back then missiles always hit for darn near full damage when they hit at all.
Once CCP decided to nerf missile "tracking" they should have adjusted the drone bays but did not, so most missile ships (and ships with missile bays) are gimped.
Long story short:
Train Minnie
Patri
I'll Roshambo You For That Titan! |
Patri Andari
Caldari Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
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Posted - 2010.11.28 06:38:00 -
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It's a very fun ship with decent attributes yet far from the head of the class when it comes to PVE.
Remember 1 thing and you will be happy. CCP originally designed this game so that missiles and drones were on par as far as damage projection/application. This is why most ships with many launcher slots have a low drone count (there are exceptions. Looking at you Tempest) It is also the reason that CCP restricted the damage and bay count of Gurista ships. (range boost FTL!)
Back then missiles always hit for darn near full damage when they hit at all.
Once CCP decided to nerf missile "tracking" they should have adjusted the drone bays but did not, so most missile ships (and ships with missile bays) are gimped.
Long story short:
Train Minnie
Patri
I'll Roshambo You For That Titan! |
Moneyhungryhoe
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Posted - 2010.11.29 10:29:00 -
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Originally by: Patri Andari
Train Minnie
No. Keep flying Raven if you want isk. Train for Mach if you want to waste months of training time. Whatever you do do not fly Rokh.
Raven might me fugly, but Rokh is forrible.
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Angie McFish
Gallente Caldari Industrial Capitalist Consortium
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Posted - 2010.11.29 18:38:00 -
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My Rokh fit, it's the best missioning boat I've used. Then again I havn't used anything but rails...
[Rokh, Mission runner] Power Diagnostic System II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
X-Large Shield Booster II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed
425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Vespa II x5
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Monk Fish
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Posted - 2010.11.29 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Angie McFish My Rokh fit, it's the best missioning boat I've used. Then again I havn't used anything but rails...
Wow, that setup sux. So I get 1.5mins if I want to tank and use my gunz? AND sub BC dps and tracking issues... *Joy fest*.
I tryed the Rokh for missions right after it came out, and sadly if you want a nails tank you need to use 250mm gunz, which sux, 350mm are better and are a better balance imo than 250 or 425mm.
However, use freaking Autocannons or Atry if you must use the rohk for anything other than a fleet sniper. That way you get better dps & a solid tank. To be honist I am not even convinced its a brilliant sniper ship, due to it being quite so poor at anything else and its long range low dps. Still I have not been in enough BS sniper fests or gate muguggings where these sorta ships did anything to have a well balanced opinion.
I suppose I come from the famely of 'why let him shoot me @ 220km, when I can make him moove into my range and higher dps @160km's using a single mid slot module?'. I have yet to see an effective sniper fleet use a range of more than 160km's.
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Luminos
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Posted - 2010.11.30 07:02:00 -
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Originally by: Jacob Stov Edited by: Jacob Stov on 27/11/2010 17:25:22 There is no decent rokh mission setup. Even versus kin-weak opponents your in most cases better off with a Raven hull. If you want a shield tanked gunship for missions train up minmatar. At least you get some useful PvP ships by doing so.
TLDR: Stop wasting time and start training for minmatar immidiately.
Let us bask in the deep wisdom here.
No, really. Rokhs suck. The bottom of the missioning battleship barrel probably looks like this:
1)Scorpion 2)Rokh 3)Apocalypse 4)Everything Else
If you absolutely must use a different hull, get a Navy Scorp. Decent ship bonuses without having to do something like train Minmatar.
But seriously; train Minmatar.
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