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Double Dee
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2010.12.04 06:09:00 -
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just as the title says, show what implants were fit on the pod on the pod kill mails. it is simply time to do it and you know it.
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Black Dranzer
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Posted - 2010.12.04 07:06:00 -
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Sure, why not.
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2010.12.04 07:32:00 -
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Originally by: Double Dee just as the title says, show what implants were fit on the pod on the pod kill mails. it is simply time to do it and you know it.
Again, a F&I post, not a real proposal.
Also I marked the part which CCP stated already isn't 'simple'. Source: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1223059 Originally by: Originally by: CCP It is currently technically difficult (and has always been) because the service responsible for sending the kill mails is asynchronous to the fights. A ship death is a static thing, but the character keeps changing as time goes. By the time the kill mail service gets a request to send a kill mail, the character is already alive and kicking elsewhere with other attributes. Artificially dropping the implants for 100% destruction to generate the kill mail or some other such technical artifice is something they are going to look into, but if they have to interrogate the database to figure out what happened in the past (such as if the pilot had implants), they will not happen.
PS: please get rid of that red text on black.. settle for grey if you have to be 'special' - thx. Public Idea Tracker | 24 Hour PLEX |
Double Dee
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2010.12.04 07:38:00 -
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Originally by: Tres Farmer
Originally by: Double Dee just as the title says, show what implants were fit on the pod on the pod kill mails. it is simply time to do it and you know it.
Again, a F&I post, not a real proposal.
Also I marked the part which CCP stated already isn't 'simple'. Source: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1223059 Originally by: Originally by: CCP It is currently technically difficult (and has always been) because the service responsible for sending the kill mails is asynchronous to the fights. A ship death is a static thing, but the character keeps changing as time goes. By the time the kill mail service gets a request to send a kill mail, the character is already alive and kicking elsewhere with other attributes. Artificially dropping the implants for 100% destruction to generate the kill mail or some other such technical artifice is something they are going to look into, but if they have to interrogate the database to figure out what happened in the past (such as if the pilot had implants), they will not happen.
PS: please get rid of that red text on black.. settle for grey if you have to be 'special' - thx.
you are confused. i am not saying the implementation part is simple. i am saying that it is time for the pod mails to show what implants were in. i am saying enough with the theorizing on how it would affect combat, how it would affect the decision to pod someone or not to pod. people will pod if they get the chance then like they do now.
now about my red text, well, if you don't like it you can always get a mono-chrome monitor and use that. problem solved.
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2010.12.04 07:54:00 -
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Originally by: Double Dee you are confused. i am not saying the implementation part is simple. i am saying that it is time for the pod mails to show what implants were in. i am saying enough with the theorizing on how it would affect combat, how it would affect the decision to pod someone or not to pod. people will pod if they get the chance then like they do now.
Mea culpa. But I think the anti-implant-in-podkillmail positions had been more about the fear of more useless e-peening. And as you can take from the quote.. if CCP has to querry the db for that it won't happen - no matter how much 'simply time it is'.
Originally by: Double Dee now about my red text, well, if you don't like it you can always get a mono-chrome monitor and use that. problem solved.
I got the Blank Your Monitor add on for FF, so it's really a non issue for me.. but you might consider others besides the unimportant me, so that you don't come over as a moronic brat that gives a **** Public Idea Tracker | 24 Hour PLEX |
Double Dee
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2010.12.04 08:18:00 -
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Originally by: Tres Farmer But I think the anti-implant-in-podkillmail positions had been more about the fear of more useless e-peening.
can the e-peening actually get worse than it already is? it would add to the pvp (player vs. player) experience of the game imo (in my opinion).
Originally by: Tres Farmer And as you can take from the quote.. if CCP has to querry the db for that it won't happen - no matter how much 'simply time it is'.
when a ship dies, very rarely does it show ten drop/destroyed items or less. ten is the most a pod mail would have to show. how much more work would that really be?
besides, it would be worth it don't you think?
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Portmanteau
Fumar Puede Matar
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Posted - 2010.12.04 08:22:00 -
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Not supported, remove killmails instead so ppl will be less stat obsessed and may actually fight for the fun of it rather than gheyblobbing/ganking/etcetc
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.12.04 09:35:00 -
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Originally by: Portmanteau Not supported, remove killmails instead so ppl will be less stat obsessed and may actually fight for the fun of it rather than gheyblobbing/ganking/etcetc
This.
Aditionally this would cause pirates to dishonor pod ransoms even more often than they do now, meaning less people in low sec, meaning more whining from pirates that people should be forced to go to low sec, meaning even worse forums. So against it.
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Cearain
Caldari The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2010.12.06 15:24:00 -
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This would undoubtedly emphasize killing pods. No thinking person would deny this. Perhaps we might argue about how much it would emphasize killing pods but not that it would. I think it would emphasize people prioritizing pods over ships quite a bit. Not when the fight is close but definitely when the balance has shifted and one side is doing mop ups.
Should the game put more emphasis on killing pods? I don't think so.
1) It will discourage new players from pvp. They can't afford to lose those plus fours.
2) ItĘs not really combat. In low sec it has allot to do with either being new or how lagged your system is. A) If your system is lagged you will get your pod killed allot and conversely won't be able to lock other peoples pods. Should we emphasize this? B) As far as killing new players? Well I'm not sure how emphasizing and rewarding giving new players devastating losses for trying pvp is good for the game.
So on the whole I donĘt see why emphasizing pod kills is good for the game. So this idea is not supported.
-Cearain
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Aphrodite Skripalle
Galactic Defence Consortium
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Posted - 2010.12.06 16:13:00 -
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Edited by: Aphrodite Skripalle on 06/12/2010 16:12:57 +1 why not show all public what someone lost. Doesnt make a difference, isk wise, because its all lost anyway.
I personally dont care much about killboards anyway. You seldom will find me on killboards. And i am not using implants.
But i would like the idea that scanners will not only show ship fitting or cargo hold but also what implants someone is using. Would give hunters a reason to kill that person just because of his loss.
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Dav Varan
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Posted - 2010.12.06 16:32:00 -
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Make ship scanner reveal implants when scanning a POD. So pies know how much to ransom for.
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Massive Dragon
HAIL DRAGONS
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Posted - 2010.12.06 17:44:00 -
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why dont you start another anti-cheat thread about it?
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LordElfa
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Posted - 2010.12.06 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: Portmanteau Not supported, remove killmails instead so ppl will be less stat obsessed and may actually fight for the fun of it rather than gheyblobbing/ganking/etcetc
Suggestion of the year. +1 googleplex.
OP /Not supported.
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Herping yourDerp
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Posted - 2010.12.06 22:40:00 -
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no, just remove kill mails
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