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Brannoncyll
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Posted - 2011.02.27 02:57:00 -
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I suspect many of the alliances who condone bots within their ranks do so simply because if they didn't they would quickly be overwhelmed by the superior forces of those who do. If CCP do not come down on this hard and soon, the arms race will spiral ever further out of control to the point where anyone who wants to compete must bot. The longer they leave it, the worse it will get. There needs to be a series of very large and public purges of botting accounts and also the removal of all assets that the alliances have purchased with the proceeds of the bots.
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Brannoncyll
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Posted - 2011.03.02 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Sreegs
Dealing with this problem correctly can't happen overnight (or even in a few weeks/months). Sure we could oversimplify the issue and come up with a magical list of accounts that we think could be bots, or have a squad of GMs staring at people all day based on a few reports, but at the end of the day would that really solve the issue? I think we need to be careful to make a distinction between effecting real change in the environment and creating a pile of sacrificial lambs. I have no interested in banning a pile of accounts to make a thread go away.
From this statement we can conclude that CCP are more interested than fixing the problem than doing another Unholy Rage. While I applaud the concept of getting it right, this is basically saying that players are free to continue to bot with impunity for months until these changes are put in place. Is this wise? Perhaps knowing that CCP are not interested in wielding the banhammer to punish cheaters will only encourage more?
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Brannoncyll
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Posted - 2011.03.02 17:50:00 -
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@Kengutsi Akira: CCP Sreegs has kindly spent some of his time responding to our posts. It would be better for us all if we can keep the posts constructive so as not to discourage further communication.
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Brannoncyll
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Posted - 2011.03.04 04:26:00 -
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Originally by: Infinity Ziona
Originally by: Sito Jaxa With all this anti-botting talk I must say I'm worried that CCP will make a knee-jerk reaction that will ultimately give rise to tremendous RMT pressures in the game.
From a player perspective te RMT issue is not as important as te non RMT bot issue.
The non RMT botters are the ones botting to gain a huge advantage over other players in terms of funding alliances, spamming capitals and beating those who dont bot.
Sure alliances can buy isk for real life cash from RMTs however they can do that legally anyway and it costs real life cash. The real problem is people farming for themselves at no cost, to gain decisive advantages over other eve players.
Agreed. While RMT has a negative affect on the game, to the average player it is those that bot to gain an advantage over others that cause the most irritation. It cheapens the experience of those of us who work for our isk, that others have a free ride and can always field superior fleets.
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Brannoncyll
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Posted - 2011.03.06 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: Opertone typical macro behavior - more than 1 client with same IP adress, all grouped up for mining... all actively playing which is not possible if it was real human.
One of the guys in our corp regularly mines with 3 hulks and an orca simultaneously. This is not difficult because the cycle times are so long. He has a clever arrangement of the four clients such that there is one main screen, and behind this are arrayed the other 3 such that the modules interfaces are all visible on screen. He has also demonstrated his proficiency with this setup in level 4 missions and in PvP.
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Brannoncyll
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Posted - 2011.03.28 22:20:00 -
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Originally by: Slate Shoa
Are the players who report bots going to be notified if their reports successfully catch a botter? Is there going to be a Wall-of-Shame (or equivalent)?
If some privacy agreement is preventing CCP from disclosing the result of a bot report, then that privacy agreement needs to be changed. CCP needs to be visible in its handling of botters and continually prove to the playerbase that botters are being delt with; lack of visibility will lead to additional (and justified) anti-botter rage.
I will wait for the Devblog to be published to see if my concerns are addressed there.
If the wall of shame is not possible, instead it would be great to see some sort of counter on the EVE website with frequently updated statistics on how many botters have been banned and perhaps some watered down graphs from the behavioural analysis program showing a consistent trend in the number of hits.
@CCP Sreegs - I enjoyed watching the video of your presentation and I am glad to see that the botting issue is now being taken very seriously. I approve of your hard-line attitude regarding the enforcement of the EULA/ToS. I look forward to feedback similar to that mentioned above or in the quoted post as to the results of your effort.
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