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gfldex
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Posted - 2010.12.06 12:39:00 -
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/me rattles his cage
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gfldex
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Posted - 2010.12.08 18:30:00 -
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/me goes into 28-days-rage-monkey-cage-rattle-mode after reading this article
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gfldex
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Posted - 2011.02.08 12:30:00 -
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Originally by: Tom Gerard
Acording to my minmatar friend, who is a worthless scrapheap of human genetic garbage, like all their kind, CCP has no grounds to punish anyone legally for botting.
They can. Anybody who playes a game in some sort of league (CCP might need to register it as a leage first) can be charged with fraud if they cheat, take drugs, bribe ppl, etc. pp.
AFAIK, no gaming company tried that yet. Might be worth it.
At the other hand it could backfire because paying the game with a PLEX-for-ISK might be income and need taxing. State debts, you know.
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gfldex
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Posted - 2011.02.15 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: Kengutsi Akira I dont get why ppl even buy isk in this game when you can get it from CCP in the form of PLEX.
Same reason super rich people do tax fraud. Cheating and getting away with it is much more rewarding than just being lame.
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gfldex
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Posted - 2011.02.16 14:03:00 -
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Originally by: Superkiller NinjaPirate I strongly believe just a very small % of macroers do that to sell isk for real money.
How likely is it that somebody who is botting is not paying his accounts with PLEX from 4-4? So in that respect they are all ISK sellers.
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gfldex
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Posted - 2011.02.17 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Florestan Bronstein If you would work at CCP and you had the choice between banning 20% of bots and reducing all bots efficiency by 20% what would you do?
You can't reduce efficiency of bots. All you will get are more bots to compensate.
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gfldex
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Posted - 2011.02.21 12:44:00 -
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Originally by: Neamus I've recently come back to the game after about a year off, and initially I thought it was just bad in my local area.
CCP kindly changed sov mechanics from the logistic burden to move all the fuel to a ISK burden to pay for the bills. The idea was to make all those afk alliances go and farm for the privilege to hold space. Or to rent out individual systems (hence the updates) to smallish (or ****ty) corps that didn't have much options to go to 0.0 with the moon goo mechanics.
Sadly CCP forgot that this can not work if they don't go after bots as hard as they can. They didn't and as a result those afk alliances are still afk while their bots make the ISK to maintain space. And while they are on it anyways, they can make the ISK to pay for all those super caps that are needed to keep the space to bot in. On top of that you don't even have to run those bots yourself, you can out source that job to some RMTs. Anybody gets a share, isn't that nice?
A nicely upgraded system with a few bots in it is worth 3 to 5 times as much as r64 moons used to. It's even better then the moon goo exploit because the CEO can look the other way and still see his corps wallet go up quite nicely.
Now CCP is in the situation that they can't go and kick all those bots and remove the ISK that was cheated into corp wallets because they have to expect that halve of all sov is lost and loads of ppl with multiple accounts (not counting bots) will quit the game because they can't maintain their play style.
CCP, as always, didn't act in time and now they have no idea how to deal with that cluster*beep* they created. It's not like there where no warning voices, but if you don't read your very own forum anymore and expect to get problems spoon fed by some elected officials once every 3 months you may learn about problems a little late.
But don't worry. They will optimise their customer communication (have the elected officials elect an official maybe?) and will not step forward to admit they *beep*ed up. Because that might actually lead to somebody comming up with an idea how to solve that problem.
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gfldex
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Posted - 2011.02.21 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: Shoopa Whoopa Search for "A Botter's Survival Guide" in Google and read the first result aswell.
I like this part the most:
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Mercs: If you're botting, chances are you've got ISK. Merc corps can be hired to assassinate, or even grief specific players. Also, you can hire mercs to simply war dec the corp of the people giving you grief. Mercs can be found advertising themselves in the Crime & Punishment section of the official forums.
Esp. if you take the justification part into account:
Quote: Check out blueprints for ships sometime, see how many minerals are needed to build things like BS's and caps. We're part of the system that keeps those prices reasonable.
Brilliant!
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gfldex
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Posted - 2011.02.21 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Shoopa Whoopa
I wonder what CCPs resident economist has to say to all this. If he yet lives.
QEN-2010/3 page 17/18:
Quote: bounty payout increased by over 16% compared to Q2
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gfldex
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Posted - 2011.02.22 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: lost marble The point I was making was that if PLEX isn't undercutting RMT sites then it is fuelling them and there's no point in having it at all.
There is a point and it's real simple. With PLEX (and secure GTCs) CCP can give players a reason to stay with the game who do not believe it's still worth their money.
<-- one of those
It is a can of worms ofc. And it's not just RMTs who can maintain their accounts with PLEX. I'm quite sure there are plenty of new players that have to learn that those big shiny ships they just bought are worthless without the SP they will have to wait another 3 months for. Given that they just spend the money for a subscription already for that PLEX there is very little reason for them to stay.
You can't really stop it anyways because players can trade GTCs for ISK all the time. With PLEX CCP can at least keep an eye on it. In fact PLEX can help to identify a bot in the first place and it makes it easier to identify the main of a bot alt.
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gfldex
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Posted - 2011.02.23 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: Don Kartel Just prevent eve running on VMWARE workstation and that will kill off half the botters
If one is able to write a sofisticated bot there is no way to stop him from removing any form of DRM from the client. DRM has not and never will have any effect on the bad boys. All you will do is drive legit players out of the game.
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gfldex
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Posted - 2011.02.23 22:58:00 -
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It's a bit sad:
Originally by: blizzard
We recently issued a new round of account suspensions and bans to StarCraft II players who were in violation of the Battle.net Terms of Use for cheating and/or using hack programs while playing. In addition to undermining the spirit of fair competition thatĘs essential to play on Battle.net, cheating and hacking can lead to stability and performance issues with the service. As always, maintaining a stable, safe, and secure online-gaming experience for legitimate players is a top priority for us, and we'll be continuing to keep watch on Battle.net and take action as needed.
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gfldex
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Posted - 2011.02.24 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: Consortium Agent
In either case, no matter how a bot evolves it will always, always, always have repetitive patterns of behaviors. Always.
Very true _but_ the behaviour of humans will be repetitive as well because the game is forcing them to. There is no way around having GMs go around and try to spot bots. And that means there is a dedicated team of knowledgeable individuals needed. (Sadly my confidence in the GM team does not allow me to hope for much in that reguard. But then, it's not my problem to solve that.)
Luckyly having your char banned is rather hurtful in EVE and thus banning players in a visible (!!!) fashion will scare most players of the cheater path. It doesn't even have to be a perma ban. If the leadership of an alliance is banned for 3 month they wont be the leadership anymore. Nonleaders will find their nice assets being locked in stations they can't dock at anymore. In contrast to most other MMOs where you can gain SP by hurting NPCs and thus the solution to getting banned for botting is more botting, in EVE a ban has a meaning. We can get rid of the waste majority of cheaters and hurt quite a lot of the RMTers.
Ofc, I would prefere sov mechanics that allow the player base to deal with afk alliances but for some strange reason I believe that we would wait for another 3 years to see any improvements in that field. Having 3 GMs trying to cover all TZs and lurk around for bot-banning targets is something that can be done _right_away_ and would require very little rage from the player base.
And that's the shame. CCP could have dealt with the whole botting mess months ago. That they didn't is ... well, I can't describe what it is without dropping blunt insults on ppl that like to get drunk. So I wont. (kind of)
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