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Vincent Athena
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Posted - 2011.08.31 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: Rasz Lin Arvasaras 20 randomly generated characters, eatch in CNR in 1 man corp with randomly generated name
Vellaine: 7 randomly generated characters, eatch in CNR in 1 man corp with randomly generated name
Akonoinen 12 randomly generated characters, eatch in CNR in 1 man corp with randomly generated name
Hageken: >10 randomly generated characters, eatch in CNR in 1 man corp with randomly generated name
and so on
mission running bots are not being touched by CCP.
Its possible those are all gold farmers and being run by an actual person. CCP cannot ban then until they actually RMT, and then the farmers just start a new account.
At the Las Vegas show CCP Sreegs says they are dealing with the issue of what determines the identity of the PLAYER. I assume its to deal with the above issue, so they can ban the player and stop them from just starting a new account, once banned.
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Ager Agemo
Caldari Care Factor
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Posted - 2011.09.01 17:01:00 -
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DIE BOTS DIE!
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Avila Cracko
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Posted - 2011.09.03 11:59:00 -
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Originally by: Vincent Athena Two year old data. We want equivalent data for the current effort.
^^ this!
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Crucis Cassiopeiae
Amarr PORSCHE AG
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Posted - 2011.09.03 22:03:00 -
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anything new here?
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Wizlawz
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Posted - 2011.09.04 00:26:00 -
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Edited by: Wizlawz on 04/09/2011 00:28:17 i am asssuming BOTTING as in macros?
but what is RMT??
either way im sure it sux.
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MarVAqN
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Posted - 2011.09.04 01:08:00 -
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Playing Devil's Advocate.
EVE is a game, and by comparison one of the better ones. Now while I see the issue of bots has not decreased, I do not see the All out war against them making much difference. In the nearly 6 years of Gameplay and the thousands of posts from angry miners complaining about mining bots, all I can say is SO WHAT. If there is someone using a bot program to mine while he is at work making an honest wage, then comes home to play the game I say more power to them. I have been hearing that BOT WILL DESTROY THE ECONOMY for those same 6 years, and guess what It has not happened. The market in EVE is more resilient than the real world markets they emulate, and the sky is falling predictions are less about change then they are about Miners too afraid to go Low or Null to find roids to mine. Real life mining is long and painstakingly dull, I for one don't want to mine 7 hours to build a ship and play for only 2 hours, lose it to a Ganker or NPC and have to repeat the long drudgery of mining.
If EvE is supposed to be a sandbox, where the economy and the universe is created by the players, don't you think automated mining devices would have been invented by now? and for that don't you think being able to talk to an agent while is space would have been figured out as well? I'm just sayin' is all....
Look Bots are not so bad, Even if some guys spends 14 hours mining using a bot and buys stuff on the market he is still putting money into circulation. If that same guy mines on his own for 14 hours he will still buy something on the market, and the Capitalistic wheel goes round and round. Okay so you have gold farmers, Big deal if someone buys gold they run the risks of A. getting caught by CCP and getting banned or B. They Could get their account hacked and have all their "possessions" stolen. But as CCP says these things are in the realm of real life intrigue, espionage and risk that EVE is supposed to represent.
Besides there is an option C. If you use a bot to mine, and you are found out, you make yourself a target for suicide Gankers. And for me I like Ninja salvaging those.
Well that's my OTHER View of things.
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Stibbins
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Posted - 2011.09.04 07:47:00 -
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The fallacy here is that bots don't harm anyone.
Everything in Eve is competitive. If there were no bots then certain easily botted activities like mining and level 4s would become much more lucrative and attract more non-cheating players to participate.
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Novon Toll
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Posted - 2011.09.05 22:55:00 -
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Mining Bots are big a problem. It'd be less of one if CCP didn't make hulks and mac's able to sit in asteroid fields and rep without worry of destruction in Empire. That and CCP doesn't do anything but 'investigate' when your report bots...
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Rykuss
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.09.06 00:29:00 -
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Originally by: MarVAqN Playing Devil's Advocate.
EVE is a game, and by comparison one of the better ones. Now while I see the issue of bots has not decreased, I do not see the All out war against them making much difference. In the nearly 6 years of Gameplay and the thousands of posts from angry miners complaining about mining bots, all I can say is SO WHAT. If there is someone using a bot program to mine while he is at work making an honest wage, then comes home to play the game I say more power to them. I have been hearing that BOT WILL DESTROY THE ECONOMY for those same 6 years, and guess what It has not happened. The market in EVE is more resilient than the real world markets they emulate, and the sky is falling predictions are less about change then they are about Miners too afraid to go Low or Null to find roids to mine. Real life mining is long and painstakingly dull, I for one don't want to mine 7 hours to build a ship and play for only 2 hours, lose it to a Ganker or NPC and have to repeat the long drudgery of mining. If EvE is supposed to be a sandbox, where the economy and the universe is created by the players, don't you think automated mining devices would have been invented by now? and for that don't you think being able to talk to an agent while is space would have been figured out as well? I'm just sayin' is all....
Look Bots are not so bad, Even if some guys spends 14 hours mining using a bot and buys stuff on the market he is still putting money into circulation. If that same guy mines on his own for 14 hours he will still buy something on the market, and the Capitalistic wheel goes round and round. Okay so you have gold farmers, Big deal if someone buys gold they run the risks of A. getting caught by CCP and getting banned or B. They Could get their account hacked and have all their "possessions" stolen. But as CCP says these things are in the realm of real life intrigue, espionage and risk that EVE is supposed to represent.
Besides there is an option C. If you use a bot to mine, and you are found out, you make yourself a target for suicide Gankers. And for me I like Ninja salvaging those.
Well that's my OTHER View of things.
In eve, like life, noone owes you a damn thing. If only you people could get that through your thick skulls. It's your responsibility to keep you stocked with isk to buy things, not CCP's. Incursions and missions give out stupid amounts of isk, incursions moreso. Use that isk to buy stuff. Who the hell "mines for seven hours to build a ship, then plays for two hours, gets blown up and starts the process over?" lolwut?!! You don't even have to mine, all you need is isk. Stop trying to do everything, decide what it is you want to do and then do it. Maybe then you'll quit spouting these ridiculous claims and presenting ridiculous scenarios for your argument.
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Elanor Vega
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Posted - 2011.09.06 13:20:00 -
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bump for this problem
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Aquila Draco
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Posted - 2011.09.08 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: Novon Toll Mining Bots are big a problem. It'd be less of one if CCP didn't make hulks and mac's able to sit in asteroid fields and rep without worry of destruction in Empire. That and CCP doesn't do anything but 'investigate' when your report bots...
you have a point...
players wrote many many many solutions to this problem and no way that all of them are bad... but nothing moved from start line...
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Shiangti
Caldari Revelation Exploration Inc. Without Remorse.
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Posted - 2011.09.09 04:27:00 -
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Lets keep this thread on top till the very end
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Elanor Vega
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Posted - 2011.09.09 08:12:00 -
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Originally by: Shiangti Lets keep this thread on top till the very end
this problem is on top from the very very first day
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Crucis Cassiopeiae
Amarr PORSCHE AG
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Posted - 2011.09.09 08:49:00 -
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i just hope that EVE itself wont end up like this old forums...
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Avila Cracko
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Posted - 2011.09.09 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: Crucis Cassiopeiae i just hope that EVE itself wont end up like this old forums...
+1
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Severian Carnifex
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.09.09 14:17:00 -
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Edited by: Severian Carnifex on 09/09/2011 14:17:39
Can we get some real dev blog on this subject... and not only "there is report bot button" "dev blog"?
only asking whats promised looooong time ago...
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Crucis Cassiopeiae
Amarr PORSCHE AG
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Posted - 2011.09.09 17:00:00 -
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this thread:
2010.12.05 23:51:00 2011.09.09 17:10:00
only problem is that we don't see the end of this problem...
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Miyammato Musashi
Freeport Exploration
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Posted - 2011.09.09 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Shiangti Lets keep this thread on top till the very end
k
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Quorra Adama
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.09.09 17:06:00 -
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Think we can hit 90 pages before shutdown? |-|
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Crucis Cassiopeiae
Amarr PORSCHE AG
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Posted - 2011.09.09 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Quorra Adama Think we can hit 90 pages before shutdown?
we can try... :p
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bornaa
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Posted - 2011.09.09 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: Crucis Cassiopeiae i just hope that EVE itself wont end up like this old forums...
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