Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 .. 16 :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 1 post(s) |
Heimdal Galplen
Minmatar Forced Entry Industries
|
Posted - 2010.12.07 16:19:00 -
[31]
Why is this guy still alive? I am disappointed in my nation's intelligence services.
|
Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
|
Posted - 2010.12.07 16:24:00 -
[32]
Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 07/12/2010 16:24:45
Originally by: Heimdal Galplen I am disappointed in my nation's intelligence services.
Your disappointment has been noted, citizen. And in the interests of protecting the great nation of America your name has been added to the list of anti-government subversives.
My Warmest Regards. Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
Caleidascope
Minmatar Republic Military School
|
Posted - 2010.12.07 16:43:00 -
[33]
He will be released on bail. There is nothing so far to hold him in prison while waiting for trial.
|
Louis deGuerre
Gallente Amicus Morte Dead Muppets
|
Posted - 2010.12.07 17:01:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Caleidascope He will be released on bail. There is nothing so far to hold him in prison while waiting for trial.
He's being held as a 'flight risk'.
Also, that's hilarious Tarantula ----- Amicus Morte is recruiting. Dive into the world of 0.0 !
|
RaTTuS
BIG Majesta Empire
|
Posted - 2010.12.07 17:02:00 -
[35]
Visa now --
Join BIG
|
Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente Shadow Templars
|
Posted - 2010.12.07 17:03:00 -
[36]
Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 07/12/2010 17:05:36
Originally by: Verone
Bull**** allegations no doubt, as a reason to detain him and try to silence him.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11937110
Sad day for freedom of speech and transparency of leadership.
What did you expect? Freedom only goes so far, and if you start bringing into light all the criminal actions and deals a country do, you are bound to get trouble, no matter how much you are within the law.
I am actually suprised he is alive, but I guess they prefer to smear his reputation rather than making him a martyr. USA have too much experience from that in the middle east.
I reccomend everyone to add wikileaks as follower on facebook if you have it!
Originally by: RaTTuS Visa now
Can they do that? I tought only a court order can do that? Maybe Assange should get the peace prize next year. Just as the chinese dissent where jailed for his belief so is Assange.
Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL. |
Mashie Saldana
Minmatar Veto Corp
|
Posted - 2010.12.07 17:05:00 -
[37]
Unless Assange carry HIV/AIDS I can't see how he could get a prison sentence in Sweden for not using a condom. I mean even beasteality is permitted there.
|
Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente Shadow Templars
|
Posted - 2010.12.07 17:07:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Mashie Saldana Unless Assange carry HIV/AIDS I can't see how he could get a prison sentence in Sweden for not using a condom. I mean even beasteality is permitted there.
Im sure they will come up with something... Sweden is pretty ****ed on Assange for showing the world how they break their own constitution with ignoring their own neutraility politics with the US/Sweden deal....
Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL. |
Nyu Shin
|
Posted - 2010.12.07 17:14:00 -
[39]
It's even worse than Aids
|
Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
|
Posted - 2010.12.07 17:15:00 -
[40]
Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 07/12/2010 17:15:27
Originally by: Mashie Saldana Unless Assange carry HIV/AIDS I can't see how he could get a prison sentence in Sweden for not using a condom. I mean even beasteality is permitted there.
Because that's not what he's been accused of. The actual crime he is being accused of is having sex without consent. Let me make this very simple: consent can be conditional.
Let's say I consent to have sex with you only if you run my mining barge while you're doing it (after all, I can't afford to lose any income). If you stop running my mining barge and lie about it, my consent is no longer valid, and you'd better not have sex anyway or you're going to prison. The crime is {censored legal defintion of 'sex without consent'}, not lack of mining barge income.
The accusations against Assange are no different: (supposedly) he obtained consent to sex under certain conditions, lied about meeting those conditions, and had sex anyway. There's no obscure Swedish law involved, it's just very basic consent.
Now, did he actually do it? Who knows. But that doesn't at all change the fact that he is accused of a serious crime, not just some technicality that is only being enforced for political reasons. -----------
|
|
Culmen
Caldari Blood Phage Syndicate
|
Posted - 2010.12.07 17:23:00 -
[41]
Edited by: Culmen on 07/12/2010 17:29:07
Originally by: Scorpyn
Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 07/12/2010 11:58:27
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/296/062/Assanges_Interpol_Warrant_Is_for_Having_Sex_Without_a_Condom.html
http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2010/12/sex-charges-and-arrest-warrant-against.html
"It turns out it was for violating an obscure Swedish law against having sex without a condom." "While the ''consent of both women to sex with Assange has been confirmed by prosecutors'', as a former attorney wrote in an impassioned op-ed, Assange has been charged with something called "sex by surprise," which reportedly carries a $715 fine. " "Today, a former attorney for Assange - James D. Catlin - has confirmed that the charges are for having sex without using a condom."
Are those links actually credible sources? Because I'm the 3rd swede in this thread who has never heard of that law.
From an article in The Guardian
Quote: The first complainant, a Miss A, said she was the victim of "unlawful coercion" on the night of 14 August in Stockholm. The court heard Assange was alleged to have "forcefully" held her arms and parted her legs and used his bodyweight to hold her down. The second charge alleged he "sexually molested" her by having sex without using a condom, when it was her "express wish" that one should be used. A third charge claimed Assange "deliberately molested" Miss A on 18 August by "pressing his naked erect ***** against her body". A fourth charge, relating to a Miss W, alleged that on 17 August, he "improperly exploited" the fact she was asleep to have sex with her without a condom.
I'm pretty meh about the whole issue. Assange was just a douche, who released the names of Taliban informants because he was a ****. His team is still working and I'm willing to bet they aren't as big ass holes Assange was. Truth still keeps coming, and a **** head goes to jail. Win all round (except for douches) and further more why do i even need a sig? |
Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
|
Posted - 2010.12.07 17:35:00 -
[42]
Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 07/12/2010 17:41:03
Originally by: Merin Ryskin Because that's not what he's been accused of. The actual crime he is being accused of is having sex without consent. Let me make this very simple: consent can be conditional.
Let's say I consent to have sex with you only if you run my mining barge while you're doing it (after all, I can't afford to lose any income). If you stop running my mining barge and lie about it, my consent is no longer valid, and you'd better not have sex anyway or you're going to prison. The crime is {censored legal defintion of 'sex without consent'}, not lack of mining barge income.
The accusations against Assange are no different: (supposedly) he obtained consent to sex under certain conditions, lied about meeting those conditions, and had sex anyway. There's no obscure Swedish law involved, it's just very basic consent.
Now, did he actually do it? Who knows. But that doesn't at all change the fact that he is accused of a serious crime, not just some technicality that is only being enforced for political reasons.
The main problem with all that, is that she was posting all over the internet how she was a having such a great time during the days she was with him, and even threw a party at her place for him the day after the incident. Neither of them deny the condom breaking, or the sex itself happening when it did.
Only when he moved on did she turn against him, even though there was no pretense of a relationship, and deleted everything she had posted online.
It's really just your average highschool BS.
My Warmest Regards. Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
Othran
Brutor tribe
|
Posted - 2010.12.07 17:44:00 -
[43]
LOL the USA has just totally lost the plot.
State Dept Press Release :
The United States is pleased to announce that it will host Unesco's World Press Freedom Day event in 2011, from 1-3 May in Washington, DC.
The theme for next year's commemoration will be 21st Century Media: New Frontiers, New Barriers. The United States places technology and innovation at the forefront of its diplomatic and development efforts. New media has empowered citizens around the world to report on their circumstances, express opinions on world events, and exchange information in environments sometimes hostile to such exercises of individuals' right to freedom of expression. At the same time, we are concerned about the determination of some governments to censor and silence individuals, and to restrict the free flow of information. We mark events such as World Press Freedom Day in the context of our enduring commitment to support and expand press freedom and the free flow of information in this digital age.
Uhuh. Tossers.
|
baltec1
Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance
|
Posted - 2010.12.07 17:50:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Othran LOL the USA has just totally lost the plot.
State Dept Press Release :
The United States is pleased to announce that it will host Unesco's World Press Freedom Day event in 2011, from 1-3 May in Washington, DC.
The theme for next year's commemoration will be 21st Century Media: New Frontiers, New Barriers. The United States places technology and innovation at the forefront of its diplomatic and development efforts. New media has empowered citizens around the world to report on their circumstances, express opinions on world events, and exchange information in environments sometimes hostile to such exercises of individuals' right to freedom of expression. At the same time, we are concerned about the determination of some governments to censor and silence individuals, and to restrict the free flow of information. We mark events such as World Press Freedom Day in the context of our enduring commitment to support and expand press freedom and the free flow of information in this digital age.
Uhuh. Tossers.
I just had an irony overload
|
Vogue
Skynet Nexus
|
Posted - 2010.12.07 17:59:00 -
[45]
Good quote: "There is nothing new in this world except for the history you do not know" - Harry S Truman
..................................................
|
Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
|
Posted - 2010.12.07 18:06:00 -
[46]
Sigh. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
|
DarkXale
Gallente
|
Posted - 2010.12.07 18:14:00 -
[47]
Quote: Latest news: Julian Assange died this morning due to heart problems. Officials say that they consider the event "Very Tragic".
It'll happen.
|
Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
|
Posted - 2010.12.07 18:15:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Scorpyn Are those links actually credible sources?
I have absolutely no idea. _
Beginner's ISK making guide | Manufacturer's helper | All about reacting _
|
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Legion
|
Posted - 2010.12.07 18:23:00 -
[49]
In before the lock.
Also tranparency is not always a good thing.
"A person is smart, people are dumb, panicy, dangerous animals and you know it" Agent K
Government leaders are going to read all the leaks and brush it off and be ok with a lot of things, however their populations and advisors are always dumb, and this is going to lead to huge diplomatic problems later. I for one welcome this future conflicts and lack of diplomatic solutions to future problems.
|
Kalle Demos
Amarr Hysteria Nexus
|
Posted - 2010.12.07 18:25:00 -
[50]
"One of the charges is that he had unprotected sex with a woman, identified only as Miss A, when she insisted he use a condom."
Ermm what?, holy crap I tthought Sweden was cool but to be arrested for that
Originally by: Kool StoryBro <---
Originally by: CCP Spitfire Spam post removed.
Random forum moments ftw |
|
Pastrami Onrye
|
Posted - 2010.12.07 18:34:00 -
[51]
PLEX for Wikileaks please CCP!
|
Othran
Brutor tribe
|
Posted - 2010.12.07 18:37:00 -
[52]
Edited by: Othran on 07/12/2010 18:37:24
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Can they do that? I tought only a court order can do that?
To receive "cash" from Visa you must hold a merchants account. Visa reserve the right to terminate that account for a whole shedload of reasons. Don't like it? Take your business elsewhere.
Except of course that isn't always an option - eg my bank only issues Visa cards and do I want to go moving mortgages etc? See how it works?
Cash is inconvenient for govts - for example the Afghan deputy president/PM/whatever wandering off with tens of millions of dollars.
Visa is a great help to them.
|
Othran
Brutor tribe
|
Posted - 2010.12.07 18:39:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Pastrami Onrye PLEX for Wikileaks please CCP!
Heh I won't hold my breath. CCP rely on Visa/other CC companies.
|
Billy Kidd
|
Posted - 2010.12.07 19:23:00 -
[54]
Man some of those cables contain info that pose a security risk, like which assets are of important interest to national security. I wouldn't want that kind of info to be leaked out, regardless of the country to which it belongs to.
|
So Sensational
GREY COUNCIL Nulli Secunda
|
Posted - 2010.12.07 19:25:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Merin Ryskin Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 07/12/2010 17:15:27
Originally by: Mashie Saldana Unless Assange carry HIV/AIDS I can't see how he could get a prison sentence in Sweden for not using a condom. I mean even beasteality is permitted there.
Because that's not what he's been accused of. The actual crime he is being accused of is having sex without consent. Let me make this very simple: consent can be conditional.
Let's say I consent to have sex with you only if you run my mining barge while you're doing it (after all, I can't afford to lose any income). If you stop running my mining barge and lie about it, my consent is no longer valid, and you'd better not have sex anyway or you're going to prison. The crime is {censored legal defintion of 'sex without consent'}, not lack of mining barge income.
The accusations against Assange are no different: (supposedly) he obtained consent to sex under certain conditions, lied about meeting those conditions, and had sex anyway. There's no obscure Swedish law involved, it's just very basic consent.
Now, did he actually do it? Who knows. But that doesn't at all change the fact that he is accused of a serious crime, not just some technicality that is only being enforced for political reasons.
"Hello, please sign this contract here, and now here, yes good. Very well, I will now insert my ***** in you."
Sorry, bull**** charges.
|
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Legion
|
Posted - 2010.12.07 19:27:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Billy Kidd Man some of those cables contain info that pose a security risk, like which assets are of important interest to national security. I wouldn't want that kind of info to be leaked out, regardless of the country to which it belongs to.
Rest assured if it was any other country than the states, there would be an international outrage and there would be a lot of people demanding his head. But hes only going after one country.
|
Izzy Lizzy
Minmatar Republic Military School
|
Posted - 2010.12.07 19:29:00 -
[57]
Why do any of you focus on the charges? You do realize he was arrested because the State considers him a major threat. Let this be a lesson to all you govt' fanbois. They don't give one iota about protecting you. They only protect themselves.
|
Kalle Demos
Amarr Hysteria Nexus
|
Posted - 2010.12.07 19:33:00 -
[58]
Isnt sex without consent ****?
Oh and dont give me that crap that "he had sex with someone when they were asleep", if you have ever had sex you would know how it would literally be impossible (without drugs / medical issues) to have sex with someone while their asleep.
Example, so I am at a friends and we have fun and after we are talking dirty and im like "you know what would be a funny way to wake up" and he is like "what" and im like "if you ****ed me awake", anyway he never did, but a few days after he did and GUESS WHAT, I woke up literally straight away.
Originally by: Kool StoryBro <---
Originally by: CCP Spitfire Spam post removed.
Random forum moments ftw |
Othran
Brutor tribe
|
Posted - 2010.12.07 19:33:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Billy Kidd Man some of those cables contain info that pose a security risk, like which assets are of important interest to national security. I wouldn't want that kind of info to be leaked out, regardless of the country to which it belongs to.
That'll be why there are over 3 million US govt employees who are cleared to see them?
NB - do note that its govt employees, not US citizens. Its a rather important distinction.
Oh and bollox they contain security risks. The unredacted Iraq/Afghan stuff undoubtably does but oh look they DIDN'T RELEASE THAT. Not even the USA can come up with a single instance where an individual was named and put at risk. These cables just show up the way the USA does "business" and thats way more damaging than any losses to people on the line.
If/when Assange gets extradited/kidnapped (sorry that'd be "special/extraordinary rendition" to US readers) to the USA we'll see whats damaging because insurance.aes256 will be in the wild.
Can't wait.
|
baltec1
Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance
|
Posted - 2010.12.07 19:47:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Billy Kidd Man some of those cables contain info that pose a security risk, like which assets are of important interest to national security. I wouldn't want that kind of info to be leaked out, regardless of the country to which it belongs to.
Because nobody would have guessed BAE systems factories and the port of rotterdam were important things
|
|
|
|
|
Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 .. 16 :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |